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All right, let's get this show started. Welcome
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everyone. Welcome to a new episode
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of Love and Murder, the weekly
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true crime podcast discussing relationships
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gone terribly wrong. Where our
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motto is, you're either someone's last
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love or their first murder. I
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am your host, Kai, and I know y'all
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missed me. Since I've been hosting
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alone, I haven't been gone this long and
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it feels weird. It's only been like
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three days, but
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it feels weird. Well,
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listen to the end. Have I got
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a story to tell you. As
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well as some shout outs and reading your
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comments from last week's cases. In
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this episode,
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we're talking about a case of law enforcement
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mess ups. No, this
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episode is not bashing cops on
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a whole. It's bashing these
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cops, these law enforcement departments.
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And it actually wasn't just the police. It
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was just the entire law enforcement
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department
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dealing with this particular case. You'll
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On October 6th, 1983 in
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Melbourne, Australia, Frederick Boyle,
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who was originally from Peterson, Super
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Eli, look I had to look this
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up, Vale of Glamorgan
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in Wales. That is like
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the longest city
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slash state. I
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don't know, what would you call it, a province or whatever?
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So I'm guessing the city is Peterson, Super
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Eli. And then the
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province is Vale of Glamorgan
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and then this is in Wales in the UK.
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I had to look that up because I'd never heard of
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this whole thing. I'd heard of Wales, but
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the whole place I'd never heard of it. Anyways, he
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woke up to find that his 30-year-old
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wife, Edwina Boyle, had disappeared. He
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said that he'd
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fallen asleep with all his clothes on on the couch
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and when he woke up he couldn't find his wife.
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What he did find though was a dear John
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Letter saying that she was having
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an affair and had run away with her truck driver
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lover named Ray. So you
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know, deuces and all that junk, it's been
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real. Our love ran dry. I mean, whatever
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you want me to say to move on with
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your life, bottom line, bye.
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Obviously, it didn't
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say all that, but that's what
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it said in my head. The couple had met on a bus
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in Cardiff, which is the capital of Wales,
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and yes, I had to look that up, and had moved
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from Britain to Australia in 1972 when
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they were still newlyweds.
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There, they shared two daughters, Sharon
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and Carisa. Carisa was the oldest, and
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they all shared a home in the suburbs in
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Dandenong, Dandenong,
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D-A-N-D-E-N-O-N-G,
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North Melbourne, Australia.
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Now, after he woke up and found
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that his wife was missing, he was
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devastated. I mean, she
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didn't just leave him, but she left
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their two kids, and she
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left them to go off with some other guy. Everyone
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catered to him and the kids. Of course, they sympathized
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with him because how dare her leave him with
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the kids and go off with another man. Two
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days later, however, Fred
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moved another woman, Virginia
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Gisara, into the house. Why'd
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you wait so long, Fred? I mean, two
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hours would have been good, right? That's
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called sarcasm. Now, on
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the flip side, Edwina's sister, Valerie
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Bordley, didn't believe this story
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for one second,
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and moving this woman
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in so soon just had all
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her alarm bells going off.
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Seven years went by, and Virginia and Fred
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lived in the house and raised the kids. Throughout
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the years, Valerie hired a PI in
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search of her sister or any evidence at all
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that her sister was still alive. She'd
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also been in regular contact with the police
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trying to convince them that her sister had disappeared.
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According to the PI, they literally
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couldn't find any evidence that Edwina
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existed period after the day
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that she supposedly left. There
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was no paper trail, no credit card
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evidence, she hadn't accessed her
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bank, so was
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she just living off raise money or
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something? Or she
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hadn't even touched her health cards. Also,
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in the beginning, she used to write her family
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all the time, and as time moved on,
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the letters became fewer and more. far between
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in nineteen ninety four eleven years
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after her sister vanished valerie
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filed a missing persons report however
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the police didn't take it seriously and
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told her that she nice except that her
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sister had left says like
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fred said stop being crazy
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you're searching for nothing she's live in
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another life leave us alone we
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have cases to solve one
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day now i'm not sure of the year this
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there was so many so few facts
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given you
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know how i like dates my like to give the all
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exactly what date time day and
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everything look i look all this about the lights
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went day was october third nineteen seventy
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five i look everything up this one
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had no dates
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while very little bit bates so
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like he said one day we're not
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sure of the year day months anything
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theresa started dating a fellow
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named michael haggerty one
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day he was over at their house and he notices
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big blue barrel in their backyard
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now the barrel
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was big like
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forty four gallons big or
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to my metric people one hundred
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sixty six point five liters
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he started zoc in about what was in the
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barrel one day he made
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a joke to tree said that maybe you
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know maybe your mom didn't run away
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been a said she's been killed and stuff the net
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bowel i mean dark
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humor maybe theresa thought it was funny
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maybe not i'm not sure
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you know who didn't find it funny though fred
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after this he started acting anxious
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whenever people were around
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the barrel looked at the barrel or
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even touch the bow like would
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you do and there three from it
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moist don't touch it like he
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just started and he never acted like this before
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now theresa michael that really serious
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and got married michael then moved
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in
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he kept staring at that barrel i
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live in the
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And
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then they walked out of the room. I mean that's how
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it happened in my head Minus the story
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because he really said that so his trial
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started soon after his arrest again
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No dates were given and
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you better believe that her
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sister Valerie traveled all
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The way from Wales to go to this court
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case Edwina's family
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never believed the she ran away with the milkman
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story Fred pled what
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lambs? What do you think he pled?
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not
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guilty and Repeated
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his story to the court During
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court it came out that Fred was
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all kinds of evil
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People who knew him reported that
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one time when they had gone horseback
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riding with him his horse had gotten
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stuck in the mud Now let's
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pause lambs. What would you do if
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your horse got stuck in the mud? I? I
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hope in that brief pause y'all
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said that you would try and help it out But
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if you were one of those ones who said that you would
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grab a nearby wire and slowly
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strangle it to death Then obviously
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you need help and you're as crazy
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as Fred because that's exactly what he did Another
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time he opened the oven in his
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house and found a mouse inside of it Instead
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of trying to take it out, which I wouldn't that's
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you know man work y'all could laugh
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at me I don't care. I don't do mice. I
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don't do roaches
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Hell no,
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that's what I called my husband for and I remind him.
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That's why I married you But
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instead of trying to take the mouse out He
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just closed the oven and turned it
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on for
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the mouth to bake to death
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Now if that's not a lunatic Then
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I don't know what is
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Then the court heard about the barrel and
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how long it had been taken from house to house They
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were also told that when people came to
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the house for parties. They would be playing
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around the barrel eating on it You
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know stuff you do and you see a barrel out. So
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note to self, when I see a barrel, don't
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touch it. I am actually going to be putting
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the pictures of party goers
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who are partying around the barrel into
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Patreon if you want to see them. www.patreon.com
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forward slash love and murder. And
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only he knew, I just want to make this clear, only
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he knew what was in that barrel and he
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let people do it and sat there
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watching them without an ounce of care. Then
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Carissa took to the stand. She
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told the court that she remembers her parents
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were arguing before she disappeared. She
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remembered that they were arguing actually about
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Virginia. Quote, I
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would lay awake at night hearing them fight.
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She would say, you've been with her again.
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I did not know what an affair
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was then, end quote. So
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basically she heard them arguing, but
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she didn't understand like about what.
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As the trial continued, I
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guess he figured no one would believe that story
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because of everything that was coming out. So
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he finally admitted what happened. I don't
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know. Maybe he thought he would get time off for
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telling the truth. They'd go leaning on him like,
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okay, you told the truth. So we'll
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only give you a slap on the wrist and one year's probation.
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Maybe that's what he thought. I don't know why
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he suddenly came forward, but he did. He
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said that he strangled Edwina
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and then shot her in the head.
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Quote, my wife died in
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a terrible way and I was not going
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to let her remains be thrown down the tip
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like garbage.
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So wait a second. You did her
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a favor by putting her body in the barrel.
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Is that what you're getting at? Is
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that really what you're trying to say in court
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in front of all these people? Oh my
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God. The
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narcissism.
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The prosecution literally called him
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a quote pathological liar.
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And in February of 2008, 23 years after Edwina's disappearance,
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the
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now 58 year old,
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Fred Boyle was charged with first-degree
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murder of his wife. He was
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sentenced to 21 years in prison, with 17
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of those years as a non-parole period.
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The Supreme Court Justice, Jack
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Forrest, said that Fred had shown
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zero remorse in what he'd done
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and had, quote, constructed a web
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of deceit and lies to avoid being
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caught.
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It also suddenly, shockingly,
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amazingly came out that 10
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years after Edwina went missing, police
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suspected something else had happened to her. But
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whenever they spoke to Ed, he kept up the
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story of her running away. I
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mean, 10 years?
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Why so soon?
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Valerie is also the one who forced
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the police to open an investigation, as I
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said before. She'd reported
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the case to the Shady Lane police in
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Watford in 1984, and they gave her
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information to Interpol, who
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gave it to the Victorian authorities. So
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basically, all those hands it
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passed through, yet if it hadn't have
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been for
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Michael, Fred would still be free.
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Anyway, this came to the hands
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of coroner Wendy Wilmes. The
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police told her that Fred had spoken
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to them and said, quote, I got
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nothing to hide. So
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they felt like she'd left and
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was living under a new name. Well,
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Dr. Wilmes said back to them, quote,
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the length of time which has elapsed since Mrs.
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Boyle's disappearance with no contact
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with her children or family in Britain makes
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it extremely unlikely that she's alive.
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Dr. Wilmes asked to see the notes and police
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said, well,
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um,
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ma'am, it appears that he destroyed
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the note.
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Right. No evidence
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and y'all just, I don't know, took his
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word for it.
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Dr. Wilmes responded with, quote,
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there may be some doubt as to whether Mrs. Boyle
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actually.
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wrote the note, with the possibility
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being that Mr. Boyle forged her handwriting.
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So basically the one person was sense.
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Funny how this is all suddenly coming out.
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Actually because of this case in part, there
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was a whole overhaul to the missing persons
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unit in 2006 in Australia. Well
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in that area of Australia. And
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that is the case
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of Frederick Boyle.
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What do you all think about this case and the utter
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disregard to even looking
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for this woman? You know
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how to get your thoughts to me, but today
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I'm ending this episode with a short story
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time and reading your comments from
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last week's episodes. Normally
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I wouldn't do this because I personally,
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personally I'm not judging
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anybody else. This is me because
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this is my platform and
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I do things differently
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on my platform. How I
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like it.
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And how you all like it when you message
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in with
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common sense requests.
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I personally think it's disrespectful
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to the case
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if you know I do like
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a story about myself or
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you know something like that after the case or
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I feel like if it's like something
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funny or light hearted. I don't know why. I
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just feel it's disrespectful. That's just me
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personally. However today
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I'm going to do this because the episode was
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late and I feel you lambs deserve
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an explanation. And I
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was going to put out the comments episode on Saturday
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and I didn't get to that nor did I get
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to put out the full episode on Sunday
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or even at commute time today, Eastern
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Standard Time. So
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story time first. You're
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listening to an episode of Love and Murder
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on True Crime by Indie Drop-In. We're
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going to take a quick break.
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And now back to this episode of Love
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and Murder.
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I'm sitting here minding my business you
19:56
know getting the show ready and everything like that
19:58
brushing up my research. so I can
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give you all the information. I'm
20:04
eating and then suddenly I feel something
20:06
hard. Like what? I
20:09
wasn't even eating anything hard. I'm eating something
20:11
that should be actually soft. It's
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like, what is this thing? And I spit out
20:16
my tooth, my frickin' tooth.
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So I run upstairs because my
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daughter probably would have grabbed her phone and turned on the camera,
20:25
but I'm old. So I
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ran upstairs to look in the mirror and I'm
20:29
seeing
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there's a gaping frickin' hole
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in my mouth with a
20:36
bit of tooth in it. So
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I'm looking and it looks rotten.
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Like my tooth was rotten. I'm not sure. But
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backstory, this tooth was
20:50
a root canal and backstory,
20:52
the root canal was because the dentist
20:54
I was going to, they had filled a small
20:57
cavity and they
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apparently left like a
21:03
pocket in my tooth. So
21:05
food was just sitting there building up for years.
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I come back for my six month checkup
21:11
and they tell me I need to do a root canal, first
21:14
root canal of my entire life. And
21:16
I told them that they did this to my teeth
21:19
and they were like, oh, there's no records of it. I
21:22
don't know what you're talking about. This has been the only dentist
21:24
I've been going to for years. So
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I don't have records of it. It could not have possibly
21:30
been us. Okay, whatever. Do
21:33
the root canal. I
21:36
think July, one
21:39
of the dentists, I was doing my checkup again,
21:41
one of the dentists had done the X-Rans, she said,
21:43
I see a pocket in there.
21:45
So I was like, well,
21:47
it hasn't even been five years, so y'all need to
21:49
redo this for free because I'm not
21:51
paying for this. So she was
21:53
like, well, I'm not a dentist who did it. You guys talked
21:55
to the dentist who did it, blah, blah, blah. Went back, talked
21:58
to that dentist and he said. He
22:00
didn't see anything. Oh, I don't see a pocket.
22:03
But and I quote, if
22:05
you start feeling pain or when you start feeling
22:08
pain, I can't remember if he said if or when. Then
22:11
call us back. So I'm thinking to myself,
22:13
so I should wait till my teeth rot
22:16
before you do something about it. So
22:19
I've already booked another dentist. I did my
22:21
research, found another dentist, booked
22:24
another appointment. But
22:26
you know,
22:26
post COVID, it's not
22:29
as simple to go to another doctor or
22:31
dentist or anything medical.
22:35
There is a long waiting period if
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you are a new patient now. So
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I have an appointment coming up, but it's
22:42
not even this month. That's
22:44
how long it is. It's some time.
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Okay, whatever. I'm going to have that doctor
22:49
look, that other dentist look. So
22:51
then my teeth breaks. And
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I told
22:54
this woman,
22:55
this is the same dentist who had seen
22:58
the pocket. And I'm telling her
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that she said this. And I said, but
23:02
he said this.
23:04
And she's all like, Oh,
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well, I don't see. I said, it doesn't look
23:09
rotten to you. She's like, Oh, I can't tell because
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your teeth broken frickin half. And
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one half is in the one
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half is in the fake tooth
23:20
bridge, whatever it's called. And I can't tell.
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And I'm like, to me, it looks rotten. I mean,
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personally, I didn't think
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I needed to be a dentist to see this, but
23:30
whatever. I believe, you know, she
23:32
didn't want to throw her coworker under the bus,
23:35
whatever. So I
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got
23:38
to go back. So
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that was my day wasted there. I got to go back
23:43
again to get another consultation,
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another day wasted. And
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then
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they're going to have to probably dig
23:51
it out or whatever. So
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joy. And then they're
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giving me options of what I could do. I could do a
23:56
bridge. I could do a this, and they're giving me the money.
23:59
How much is going to cost? and I'm just like looking
24:02
at them like, you do
24:04
know we're in a recession,
24:05
right? And I'm just wondering.
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And to me, this is
24:10
all their fault. So my whole thing
24:12
is why am I even paying anything? But
24:15
that's something I'm gonna have to deal with. But
24:17
anyways, that's
24:19
my little story time on of what happened that
24:22
threw me off from my research
24:24
and my writing and my this and my that. And that's
24:26
why the episodes didn't come out. So,
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you know, I completely flaked on the pod
24:32
and I apologize to all of you for
24:34
that. Because, you know,
24:37
you expect a certain level of professionalism
24:40
for me. And,
24:41
you know, you don't bring personal
24:44
issues
24:44
to work. So I
24:46
do apologize for that. But I
24:48
did think that y'all deserve to know why the
24:50
episode came out late.
24:52
And so I told you a bit about my
24:54
business. And for those of y'all who are still
24:56
here through that boring story, well, thank you. And
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I wanna go ahead and give my shout outs
25:02
and then read your comments from
25:04
last week's episode.
25:06
So first of all, as you all already
25:08
know,
25:08
big shout out to my lamb
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Patreon group. Thank you so much for
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supporting Love and Murder with your hard
25:15
earned money. I really, really appreciate
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it. I mean it, I'm serious. I really appreciate
25:19
it. And I mean, literally
25:21
in all honesty, all of my lambs.
25:24
This is my job. This is the only
25:26
job I do. It's a full time job
25:29
too. So I don't think I'm over here slacking. Especially
25:32
now with the new Kai Rance segment
25:34
that everyone likes so much. I'm basically
25:36
going into overtime with this work. But
25:38
I'm not complaining.
25:39
Love it, love it.
25:41
Wouldn't change it for the world. So
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your monetary support really helps
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me in more ways than you can imagine.
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And I really, really thank you for that. So
25:51
my lamb Patreon shout
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outs, first of all, all of you,
25:54
but especially the ones who engage
25:56
like Stacy Marie, Cindy
25:59
G, and
25:59
And I'm gonna say it wrong and I apologize.
26:03
Shanyeli, Shanyeli, Shanyel
26:06
H.
26:07
Thank you so much for your engagements. It
26:10
makes me continuously think that somebody's listening.
26:13
Those are my Lamb Patreon engagements. Now,
26:17
outside of Patreon, in
26:19
the Lamb Facebook group, Julia
26:21
Y. I think it's two names in one,
26:23
Julia Y. Rachel H. She doesn't
26:26
speak much, but she engages with
26:28
everything, literally everything I put out.
26:31
She likes it, you know, she'll heart it,
26:33
whatever. So even that small
26:35
gesture means a lot to me, Julia.
26:38
Seriously, thank you. Honorable
26:40
mention is Kathleen M.G.
26:43
And now for your comments from the episodes
26:45
last week. So last week, there
26:48
wasn't a lot of comments. So what I
26:50
decided to do was go like
26:52
the past two weeks. So
26:54
let's go back to episode 115, the
26:57
case of Lauren Jo Aquin. The
27:00
poll question that I had out is, did
27:02
you think that he did it? And 66%
27:04
of y'all said, no,
27:06
there was not enough evidence.
27:08
And the rest said, yes,
27:11
evidence proved it.
27:12
This one I'm on the fence about. To
27:15
me, there was not enough evidence, but
27:17
then again, there was enough circumstantial
27:19
evidence, which really doesn't mean anything.
27:22
So I'm on the fence about that one. Then
27:25
the Kai Rance about the mom's suing
27:27
Snapchat because the child died of
27:29
fentanyl poisoning. My poll
27:31
on there was, do you agree with her suing Snapchat?
27:36
And it was 50-50,
27:37
literally half-half.
27:39
Half of y'all said
27:41
yes. And I said, tell me why, but you didn't.
27:44
And the other half of you said no. Then
27:47
another comment, well, two more comments
27:50
on the Kai Rance episode of
27:52
the Colorado Stepmother killing
27:54
her 11-year-old stepson.
27:56
Vicki C said, no excuse,
27:58
but his dad kept...
27:59
dumping his son on the stepmom. She
28:02
married him and he married someone to watch
28:04
his kid. Which was what I was
28:06
saying in the episode, which is why
28:09
does she have the kid in the first place? Why wasn't
28:11
he with his mother?
28:13
Like
28:14
that's what I couldn't get
28:16
that either, Vicki. And then Livin
28:18
Masterpiece said, the dad
28:20
should have paid closer attention to the interactions
28:23
between Leticia and Gannon. Not
28:25
to mention, if she didn't want to be responsible
28:27
for the children, marry somebody without
28:29
children. Boom, that's what I'm talking
28:31
about, Livin Masterpiece. I
28:34
completely agree. Why did you
28:36
marry somebody who had a child if
28:38
you didn't want to be around children? And
28:41
yes, the dad should have paid
28:43
closer attention. So I agree with
28:45
you. And then about the chirans,
28:47
about Angela Tran, the college student who
28:49
was stabbed 107 times by
28:51
her stepdad, Vicki C said
28:54
that she thought it was sexual. And
28:56
I think we did say something about that in
28:58
the episode. Like maybe
29:01
he had touched her way back in
29:03
a day or something. I can't really remember,
29:06
but that was actually her stepdad
29:09
and he was crazy.
29:10
And now as the episode 116,
29:13
the case of Dawson McGee, I
29:17
asked, what did you think about this episode as I
29:19
do for all episodes? And username
29:21
Vores said, I love
29:24
Kai's voice and dry humor. Good
29:26
narrator. And this is Christelle
29:28
from Belgium. Thank you, way from
29:30
Belgium. That's so awesome.
29:33
Thank you for listening. I
29:36
know why you said you like my voice. That's so funny
29:39
because I said, if people say something
29:41
stupid, I'm not saying your
29:43
comment on air. Because
29:46
I get comments where I can't stand how
29:48
you put on different
29:50
voices. It's not funny. Okay, then
29:52
don't listen to me. Or I literally
29:55
get comments saying, I don't like your voice.
29:57
I don't like your comment. I
29:59
get it.
29:59
Guess we're in agreement? I don't... Okay.
30:04
But thank you, Christelle.
30:05
Love you all the way from Belgium. And
30:08
then an episode of Kyrants,
30:10
which a Florida mother allegedly planned
30:13
murder with her son. I put out
30:15
a poll asking, do you think the mother
30:17
should be charged? And again, that was
30:19
split 50-50. Some
30:22
people said absolutely and some people said
30:24
absolutely not. It would be nice
30:26
if you left me a comment telling me why you thought
30:28
so or why you didn't think so. But either
30:30
way, I'm not complaining. I'm just saying it'll be nice. Just
30:33
you answering the poll is enough for me to.
30:36
And then, so remember, I did
30:38
a Kyrants where the father found
30:41
the body of his daughter dead under the bed and then I
30:43
had to come out quick and do an
30:45
update to that because as I was looking
30:47
for pictures, I found an update.
30:50
So someone said, Alexa
30:52
D said, crazy situation
30:54
with many questions unanswered. I
30:57
agree. My main question
31:00
is how did he get in the house?
31:02
That's my main question because there
31:04
wasn't any break-ins or, well, any
31:07
signs of a break-in or anything like that. They
31:09
said his key was on the floor. Did he drop
31:12
the key? Did somehow, was this
31:14
like
31:15
a key that was so filed down that
31:17
it worked in a similar lock
31:19
or
31:21
she had said that she basically quote,
31:23
knew this guy because she said, oh, it's the, what
31:26
did she say? It's the long-haired guy from
31:28
down to hall. So she was familiar with him.
31:31
So maybe he was like, hey, it's
31:33
me, you know, whatever. What was
31:35
his name again? Jose. I
31:37
can't remember his name. Sorry. I do so
31:39
many cases. I can't remember everybody's
31:42
names, but I think his name was Juan,
31:44
Juan Carlos. That was his name. So
31:46
maybe he said, Hey, it's me, Maria Juan
31:48
Carlos. Open the door. And maybe she's
31:51
like, Oh, it's the neighbor. Let me open the door. But
31:53
you know, we won't know. I guess
31:56
maybe we'll find out if it goes to trial or
31:58
something. Maybe he'll.
32:00
But then maybe not because he said
32:02
he was so wasted. Everybody
32:05
said he was so wasted that day. So maybe he doesn't even remember.
32:08
But that was my main question.
32:10
And then finally, the last
32:13
comment I have was Kai
32:15
Rance, where it was, it
32:18
was originally supposed to be a midweek mini and
32:20
I just put it out where the influencer
32:24
and her mom did a double homicide.
32:26
So to that, Aston T
32:29
said, Hi, I'm a welder.
32:31
An angle grinder is mostly used
32:33
in metalworking. Different wheels can be
32:35
used for different reasons. A cutting
32:38
wheel can be put onto cut metal, which can easily
32:40
cut through flesh. Wow.
32:43
Well, thank you, Aston, for letting
32:45
us know. And this was in response
32:48
to the case where the father killed
32:50
his son. And remember, the grandfather
32:53
was going into the house and he
32:55
was like, I wouldn't go there if I were like, he didn't
32:57
even care.
32:58
You remember? He didn't even care. I
33:00
wouldn't go there if I were you. Oh my God. Some
33:03
people just need to be hit in the face
33:05
with a chair.
33:06
Don't judge me. And
33:09
actually, now that I'm going through the comments,
33:11
I want to do another honorable
33:13
mention because I'm seeing that Vicky
33:16
C seems to comment a lot. So
33:18
thank you for the interaction. I'm
33:21
giving you your own special shout out. Vicky
33:24
C, thank you for your engagement. And
33:26
that's all I have for your comments. I have figured
33:28
that I would start trying to do an episode
33:30
with your comments because Spotify
33:33
gives me a way to
33:35
ask your thoughts. And
33:37
between Spotify and Patreon,
33:40
Patreon, I can comment. I can engage. I
33:42
can have fun. Talk to y'all. The
33:45
Lamb Group, I can have conversations in there,
33:47
the Lamb Facebook Group. But then on
33:49
Spotify, where I get
33:52
my next most engagement, there's
33:55
no way for me to answer y'all. So
33:57
I figured I would do an episode.
33:59
actually respond into your, y'all, this is
34:02
the way I'll get my response out. So,
34:06
if you like this, then keep leaving
34:08
comments and I'll keep making an episode
34:11
just with your comments. It won't be behind
34:13
another episode, it'll be literally an episode by
34:15
itself with your comments.
34:18
And finally, I want to thank you all
34:21
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38:13
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