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3:50

At the trial of Kenneth McDowell who

3:53

is charged with committing three

3:55

murders in nineteen

3:58

six in Texas.

3:59

We have two separate trials here, Captain

4:02

because obviously Roy Green

4:04

is going to be the state's

4:06

star witness against Kenneth

4:08

McDuff. at McDuff's trial.

4:11

And

4:11

at that trial,

4:13

Green takes the stand, and

4:15

McDuff took the stand as well. Now when

4:17

Green is on the stand, his voice at

4:19

times, he's barely

4:21

audible. You know, he's very quiet, seems

4:23

very timid, very shy, very scared.

4:26

But

4:26

he tells the courtroom how

4:28

Kenneth McDuff had shot the two teenage

4:31

boys and

4:31

then raped and killed Edna Sullivan.

4:34

Green admitted that he too participated

4:37

in the crimes committed that night,

4:39

but he told the jury that

4:41

he feared for his life. and he

4:43

feared that McDuff would kill him too

4:45

if he did not

4:47

follow McDuff's orders.

4:49

When Kenneth McDuff took the witness stand,

4:51

he denied any knowledge of

4:53

all at all of the killings and

4:56

suggested that Roy Green

4:58

acted alone and committed the

5:00

crimes on his own after borrowing,

5:03

Kenneth's car, and the

5:06

Roy Green was simply trying to frame

5:08

McDuff for these crimes. Well,

5:11

you gotta remember this is what Greene was

5:13

telling him McDuff told him to do.

5:15

Deny everything. Don't

5:17

talk. don't Even if they'd sort

5:19

to beat on you, it'll be worse in prison than

5:21

whatever the cops will do to you. Present

5:23

in the courtroom each day, so this

5:25

trial really only lasted about

5:27

a week. And in my opinion, I'm

5:29

surprised it lasted that long

5:31

because it was it looks to me like a pretty

5:34

open and shut case. Now mind you in

5:36

sixty six, they didn't have the

5:38

technology that we have today.

5:40

One of the things that was a bit of a delay

5:42

in this trial that really kind of

5:45

drug it out a lot longer than it needed

5:47

to be was some

5:49

of the And I wanna be clear

5:51

here that I When I say Theatrix, I'm

5:53

talking about Theatrix on

5:56

behalf of the defense and

5:58

people for the defendant. So

6:01

A couple of things that happened was,

6:04

Kenneth McDuff's attorney, his

6:06

we already talked about what McDuff's

6:09

defense would be that that he wasn't

6:11

a part of it. He was it

6:13

was all a lie that the

6:15

real killer took his car and his gun and

6:17

committed these crimes he's trying to frame him.

6:20

McDuff's attorney,

6:21

on multiple occasions, tried

6:23

to push for

6:25

a mistrial. Try to get the judge

6:27

to agree to a mistrial. I

6:29

I think when I observe it,

6:31

here today, it looks to

6:34

me like the defense attorney

6:36

understood what they were up against that

6:38

it was a pretty open and shut case

6:40

against his client. And

6:42

so I think that he really

6:44

kind of threw his hands up in the air and said,

6:46

what the hell that you do here. Alright. I'll

6:48

just I'll just attempt to get a mistrial.

6:50

I will attempt multiple times to get a

6:52

mistrial. On one of those occasions, it

6:54

was because Enna Sullivan's parents

6:57

had to be removed from the courtroom.

6:59

They were so upset and and

7:01

so distraught they

7:03

they physically broke down

7:06

right there in the courtroom and

7:08

had to be removed. And that's when the

7:10

defense attorney comes up and says, you know,

7:12

judge We gotta declare this a mistrial

7:14

because the jury can't forget that. You can

7:16

tell them to erase that from their memories

7:18

and to not take that those acts

7:20

into their consideration. But there's no

7:22

way that they can't.

7:24

Now,

7:25

and true form,

7:26

true to her form, present

7:28

in the courtroom each day of this

7:31

trial McDuff trial is his

7:33

mother, Adi. Remember, she thinks

7:35

her son is a, quote, perfect

7:37

little angel. Yeah. And she

7:39

vouch for her son telling

7:41

reporters that Kenneth McDuff

7:43

had an alibi for the time of the murders.

7:46

She says that Kenneth was

7:48

on a date with a young woman from his

7:50

church saying,

7:51

quote, I think she's studying to be

7:53

a missionary. Okay.

7:55

So but we can't find

7:57

this individual. No, we can't find

7:59

this individual because the mom

8:02

and Kenneth refused

8:04

to reveal this girl's name.

8:06

That he's supposedly on a date

8:08

with because she's studying to be

8:10

a missionary. And if he were

8:12

to say that she was out on a

8:14

date -- Right. -- then that would

8:16

ruin her reputation and

8:18

that she would be kicked out of the church

8:21

or not be able to go on to study to be a

8:23

missionary, something like

8:25

that. So

8:26

so I mean, think about this.

8:28

He's basically saying that,

8:30

hey, green, I let him

8:32

borrow my vehicle. I let him borrow my gun.

8:34

And then he was able to

8:36

control all three victims by

8:38

himself and move vehicles,

8:40

two vehicles at a time.

8:42

He was

8:43

basically able to walk on

8:45

freaking water. And I

8:47

had no I had no knowledge of

8:49

this. Well, and his mother just

8:52

drives me freaking nuts here

8:54

because the way that she stands up for

8:56

Kenneth, and this is again, this is not

8:58

the first time. This is what's been

9:00

going on his entire life. And if

9:02

you want to, you know, it's

9:04

easy to fault family

9:06

of these types of monsters. and

9:08

point out where they went wrong as well. But

9:11

with McDuff's mom, she's

9:13

constantly

9:14

getting him out of trouble and

9:17

sticking up for him and vouching for

9:19

him even when he does the worst

9:21

of the worst here. You

9:23

know, she's quoted in the paper

9:25

saying he's he's too good for his own

9:27

good. Yeah. I don't think Too good

9:29

for his own good. He's too good for his

9:31

own good. She says, look, the reporters

9:33

say, but the You

9:35

know, your son won't reveal the name

9:37

of this person who is his alibi.

9:40

He is on trial for

9:42

three homicides he is going to

9:44

be executed by the state

9:45

of Texas

9:47

via electric chair

9:49

if he's convicted. If he's if he's

9:51

found guilty in this case, and

9:53

yet he won't give up the name of his

9:55

alibi, what say you

9:57

missus Mcduff? AND

9:59

SHE SAYS, WELL, IF HE'S WILLING TO

10:01

RISK DEATH IN THE ELECTRIC CHAIR TO

10:03

SPARE THE GIRL'S REPUTATION, I GUESS

10:05

THAT'S HIS BUSINESS. No. The truth

10:07

is they couldn't find the girl

10:09

if they named her. And if they did

10:11

find this person, they would

10:13

not this person would not

10:15

back up the story of

10:17

this horrible monster because the

10:19

truth of the matter and we all know

10:21

it was

10:22

he was there the night he was responsible

10:24

for this triple homicide. Not only

10:26

responsible, I believe he was the

10:28

driving force behind all of those

10:30

crimes that were committed that night,

10:32

and then for his mother

10:34

to stand up for him

10:37

at court in

10:38

November of nineteen sixty six to

10:40

me is just another great example

10:42

of either stupid or

10:44

liar. Yeah. I would go

10:46

with both. So, of course, we

10:48

have Kenneth McDuff who is found

10:50

guilty and he is

10:52

sentenced to die by

10:54

the state of Texas, and he

10:56

was scheduled to

10:58

be executed in the

11:00

electric

11:00

chair. And

11:02

in fact, he comes awfully

11:05

close at least

11:06

twice actually walking

11:08

to the chair and

11:10

gets a last minute

11:12

stay of execution in both

11:14

situations. In fact,

11:16

he was scheduled I

11:18

believe he was scheduled to die within just a

11:20

couple years of the

11:22

conviction. you

11:23

know, nowadays we know that people

11:25

land on death row and they can be there

11:27

for fifteen, eighteen,

11:29

twenty five, thirty years,

11:31

sometimes they're never executed at

11:33

all. He

11:33

was supposed to be executed.

11:36

They had set the date. He comes close

11:38

several times, but

11:39

they never end up executing

11:42

Kenneth McDuff. In

11:44

fact, what ends up

11:46

happening is

11:48

very much the

11:50

opposite.

11:50

Roy Green

11:51

ends up getting twenty five years.

11:54

That is his sentence in

11:56

the

11:56

case. McDuff

11:57

tough gets the death penalty,

11:59

and then later McDuff's

12:01

sentence was commuted to life

12:03

in prison. This

12:05

is after the United

12:07

States throughout the death penalty

12:10

in

12:10

nineteen seventy two. So

12:12

he commits

12:12

these murders in sixty six. Six

12:15

years later, what he

12:17

sentenced to is no longer even an

12:19

option. So it's now

12:21

commuted to a life sentence. Yeah.

12:23

I feel like he should have got three life

12:25

sentences, but then

12:27

it's even gonna get worse.

12:29

So check this out.

12:31

Well, and then we have an issue

12:33

here in the state of Texas that

12:35

goes beyond getting

12:36

rid of the death penalty. They

12:39

have

12:40

overcrowding in the prison population

12:43

in Texas throughout the entire

12:45

state. And this

12:47

is an ongoing problem.

12:49

And so what they are forced to

12:51

do with the overcrowding problem

12:54

is to increase their parole

12:56

considerations of

12:58

their inmates. And

13:00

this is handed down by

13:03

the by order

13:05

of the governor.

13:06

So before long,

13:08

they are ordered to parole

13:10

seven hundred and fifty of the lowest

13:13

risk inmates

13:13

a week.

13:16

Right?

13:16

Seven hundred and fifty of the

13:18

lowest risk inmates a week. Now

13:20

think about that for a second. If

13:22

you have the seven hundred and

13:24

fifty the seven

13:25

hundred and fifty most

13:28

low risk of

13:30

offending again criminals that you're

13:32

releasing. Well,

13:33

then that means that the following week,

13:35

you're releasing seven hundred and fifty

13:37

more and they are now

13:39

considered the most

13:41

low risk. However, they were a

13:43

higher risk than the seven fifty that you

13:45

released the week before.

13:46

Right.

13:47

And that trend continues week

13:50

after week after week after week

13:52

until you get to somebody like Kenneth

13:54

McDuff, who has killed

13:57

three people. Again, should be

13:59

serving a life

13:59

sentence. No possibility of

14:02

parole. no matter what, no matter

14:05

how crowded these prisons

14:08

are.

14:08

Individuals like this should not be getting

14:11

out of prison. in the end, the state of

14:13

Texas over the course

14:15

of a a long period of time, they

14:17

end up releasing over

14:19

sixty thousand

14:21

inmates. They are

14:24

eventually forced to release

14:26

somebody like Kenneth McDuff. I shouldn't

14:28

say forced. has to go

14:30

before a parole board. But

14:31

by the

14:32

time he goes before the parole board,

14:35

they're pretty much rubber stamping

14:37

these things through. They're clearing

14:39

these guys rather quickly. And

14:42

his

14:42

crimes are

14:44

are certainly significantly

14:47

more horrific than a lot of the

14:49

other people that the parole board

14:51

would look at and that they would examine

14:53

their case file and review

14:55

their prison history. Right.

14:58

But

14:58

the problem,

14:59

one thing that comes into the favor

15:02

of somebody like Kenneth McDuff is

15:04

by the time they get to him, you

15:06

know, they don't start releasing people

15:08

even though they they

15:09

commuted the his sentence in

15:11

nineteen seventy two, It

15:13

was still believed in nineteen seventy two that he

15:15

would spend the rest of his life in prison.

15:18

We're talking about

15:19

years and years later. It wasn't

15:22

until I believe that the mid-80s or late-80s

15:24

that they started releasing the inmates,

15:26

and

15:26

rubber stamping these per rolls.

15:29

But

15:29

by the time they get to somebody like Kenneth

15:32

McDuff, he's been in their prison

15:34

system for a long period of

15:36

time. He was sent there in nineteen

15:38

sixty six. He won't be

15:40

released until December of nineteen

15:43

ninety. So it's a

15:45

considerable amount of time and

15:47

what he has on his

15:49

to

15:49

his advantage is that he's now

15:52

older. And for whatever reason,

15:54

they have believed that he has

15:56

been rehabilitated and

15:58

that he will not be much of

15:59

a

16:01

threat when he's released?

16:03

Well, because he also behaved himself

16:05

pretty well. when he was incarceration?

16:07

He broke a lot of the rules,

16:09

but he didn't get caught for

16:11

a lot of things. It's believed

16:14

that he was paying off some

16:16

of the guards to sneak him drugs

16:18

over

16:18

the years. He had a pretty healthy

16:21

drug habit, especially once he

16:23

got out of prison in

16:24

nineteen ninety. But

16:27

here's

16:27

an interesting

16:29

quote. Okay? There there

16:31

were people that came out of

16:33

the woodwork when Kenneth

16:35

McDuff was released to try to tell

16:37

everybody, look, we're gonna have a big problem

16:39

here. This is this is going to be

16:41

a big problem letting this

16:43

guy out.

16:44

though So

16:45

this is a quote from Bill Brand.

16:47

He's the father of one of

16:50

Kenneth McDuff's victims, Robert

16:52

Brand. from

16:52

nineteen sixty six. And when

16:55

he was released, when McDuff was

16:57

released, Bill Brand said,

16:59

quote, he was out on parole

17:01

when McDuff killed our kids.

17:03

He

17:03

got three death sentences, and now

17:05

he's out on parole again. They

17:07

are going to have blood on

17:10

their hands. those people who turned him loose.

17:12

Very good point that he brings up there.

17:14

Kenneth McDuff was out on parole at the

17:16

time that he killed the three kids. Yeah.

17:18

I mean, it makes zero sense to me

17:21

that anybody

17:22

that would be originally

17:24

sentenced to death by the

17:26

state would

17:27

be released. It's absolutely ridiculous.

17:30

And I get the idea that, okay,

17:33

okay, maybe he's

17:33

a model

17:36

prisoner,

17:36

but like you said, just a prisoner that

17:38

didn't get caught. But

17:41

records show he's

17:42

a model prisoner. We're gonna let him

17:44

out. again, this is a this

17:46

is a triple homicide, where

17:48

in fact, then he went on

17:50

and lied about it. wasn't

17:52

like that he came forward and confessed

17:54

and turned himself in, didn't

17:56

show any sign of remorse. I mean,

17:58

hell he was lying through his

18:00

teeth saying I was even there.

18:03

So for them to release

18:05

a monster like that, it's it's the

18:07

most one of the most irresponsible

18:09

things I've ever heard

18:11

of our prison system doing. Well,

18:13

and keep in mind though, it's state by state

18:15

when we talk about the prison system. So

18:17

this is up the Texas prison

18:20

system doing this. And according to

18:22

one of my favorite publications, Texas

18:25

monthly, the man who arrested. Kenneth

18:27

McDuff after the triple homicide

18:30

sheriff Papplin on the day that

18:32

McDuff

18:32

was released, He

18:34

shared his opinion. Sheriff Pappellini

18:36

says that he said, quote, I don't

18:38

know if it'll be next week or next

18:40

month or next year. This

18:42

is him talking to fellow officers.

18:45

But one of these days, dead

18:47

girls are gonna start turning up. And

18:49

when that happens, the man you need to

18:51

look for is Kenneth McDuff.

18:54

I

18:54

mean, you can't

18:56

make this stuff up. This is

18:58

this is incredible stuff here that people

19:00

are saying these are almost

19:03

premonitions of

19:05

of letting this evil, this

19:07

kind of evil back out on the streets

19:10

and you have the sheriff who arrested him

19:12

saying, one of these days,

19:14

Debt girls are gonna start turning up, and

19:16

when that happens, the man we need to look for

19:18

is Kenneth McDuff. Well,

19:20

think about that. This guy was

19:22

sentenced to death. McDuff

19:24

was sentenced to death, and now

19:26

by releasing him, you're

19:28

sentencing

19:29

innocent women to death. Within

19:32

days of Kenneth McDuff

19:34

being paroled, released on

19:36

parole. The naked body of

19:37

a woman did indeed turn up,

19:39

and this was thirty one

19:42

year old Sarraphia

19:44

Parker. She had been found

19:46

to have been beaten, strangled,

19:48

and dumped in a field near

19:51

Temple Texas. According

19:53

to records, Kenneth McDuff's parole

19:56

officer was based in

19:59

Temple. Now, he's

20:00

never been connected one hundred

20:03

percent to that homicide. That's

20:05

still an open homicide to

20:07

this day, but given the

20:10

location and given the

20:12

proximity both in location to where

20:14

his parole officer was and

20:16

the time that he gets out of

20:18

prison, You put two and two

20:20

together here and he looks like a very good

20:22

suspect for Sarafia

20:24

Parker's murder. We do

20:26

get lucky here for a little

20:28

bit captain. Briefly,

20:30

McDuff

20:31

has returned to prison. This

20:33

is after he threatened a

20:36

in Rosebud. It

20:38

sounds like we have

20:39

this grown man here who was almost in

20:42

like some kind of physical

20:43

altercation with a boy.

20:45

don't know

20:46

the details of the story, but it's enough

20:48

for him to have violated

20:50

his parole. He sent back the prison

20:53

So once again, the state of Texas gets the opportunity

20:55

to keep this guy jailed forever.

20:58

However,

20:58

that's not

21:00

that's

21:00

not to be, and he ends

21:02

up getting out

21:03

once again. Then in

21:06

nineteen ninety one, Kenneth McDuff

21:09

enrolled at Texas State

21:11

Technical College in Waco, Texas.

21:13

And soon after that,

21:15

we have Central Texas

21:17

women, sex workers, they

21:19

begin to disappear. There's

21:21

one

21:21

in particular of Valencia

21:25

Joshua, age twenty two, was

21:27

last seen on live February twenty fourth

21:29

nineteen ninety one.

21:30

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21:32

have witnesses say that she was

21:34

on campus looking for

21:37

Kenneth Mc Duff had asked

21:39

for

21:40

Kenneth Mc Duff for where people where

21:42

she could find him, and then

21:44

later she disappears, her naked

21:46

body is later discovered in shallow

21:49

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21:51

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21:51

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21:54

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Alright. We are

24:02

back Cheers to mates, Cheers to

24:04

you colonel. Let's get back

24:06

into it. Back in early nineteen

24:08

ninety one, Kenneth Mc Duff is

24:10

back out on the streets again.

24:12

and this is when he enrolled at

24:15

Texas State Technical College

24:17

in Waco, Texas. While he was

24:19

in prison, he actually completed his

24:21

high school degree and attended,

24:24

I believe, like, achieved

24:25

forty five hours toward

24:27

college credits while he was in

24:30

prison. And so he's going to pick up

24:32

and try to go to the school

24:34

here. But again, we see a

24:36

reoccurring theme with

24:37

Kenneth McDuff as soon as he moves to

24:39

an area, as soon as we know that he is

24:41

in an area, well then women

24:43

start to disappear. And

24:45

in fact, we get a young

24:48

woman Valencia Joshua

24:50

aged twenty two. She

24:52

is seen for the last time

24:54

alive February twenty fourth nineteen

24:57

ninety one, and we have

24:58

multiple witnesses who

25:01

say that they saw her on the

25:04

Texas State Technical College

25:06

campus on that day,

25:08

and she was asking for

25:11

Kenneth McDuff. if she fact found him, then

25:13

this is what likely led to her

25:15

death in my opinion. Now,

25:17

she's missing

25:17

for a period of time, but

25:20

later her naked, decomposed

25:23

body was discovered in a shallow

25:25

grave in the woods.

25:27

And this area is

25:29

located directly behind Texas

25:31

State Technical College. This will

25:33

bring

25:33

us to later in the

25:35

year in nineteen ninety

25:37

one. In fact, around the

25:40

around the Christmas holiday of nineteen

25:43

ninety one when a young

25:45

woman named Colleen Reid

25:47

disappeared from an Austin,

25:49

Texas

25:50

car wash.

25:52

Witnesses

25:52

reported hearing a woman screamed

25:55

that night and seeing two men

25:57

speeding away in either a yellow

25:59

or tan

25:59

thunderbird. We know that McTuff is

26:02

involved, so it's gonna be a horrific scene,

26:04

but we have a really good

26:06

news report on this

26:08

crime. Yeah.

26:09

Captain, you're exactly spot on

26:11

there. And I wanted to make that we read this article

26:13

that came out shortly after

26:16

Colleen

26:16

Reid disappeared because

26:19

it's just It's full of

26:21

doom and gloom. There's no hope

26:23

as you will hear in this

26:25

article. And this article

26:27

is just two days after

26:30

SHE

26:30

WENT MISSING.

26:31

SO THE HEADLINE HERE FROM

26:34

THE

26:34

AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN NEWSPAPER

26:37

OUT OF AUSTIN TEXAS says

26:39

police think woman was abducted while

26:41

she washed her car.

26:44

And

26:44

the reporter here is Kimberly

26:47

Garcia, who writes,

26:48

police continue their search

26:50

for a missing Westlake Hills

26:52

woman who they believe was abducted

26:54

from a central Austin

26:57

car wash. Colleen Reed, h twenty eight, was

26:59

abducted at nine fifteen

27:01

PM, Sunday, possibly

27:03

by two men while washing her

27:06

car. and then it gives the address

27:08

for the car wash. And this is

27:10

according to the Austin Police Department's

27:12

assault unit, sergeant Don

27:14

Martin. Here's one thing that I wanna point out.

27:16

I'm gonna jump in as we go through

27:18

this article here. When

27:20

you have a report

27:23

from police, that is saying,

27:25

this person was abducted at nine

27:27

fifteen PM? That means it's

27:29

beyond question by

27:31

that time. It's beyond question

27:33

if this person is missing or if they were

27:35

abducted. Police are telling

27:37

you, this woman was abducted

27:39

and oh yeah, not just abducted. we

27:42

have the time stamp of

27:44

when she was abducted, and it was

27:46

at nine fifteen PM. Right.

27:48

So

27:49

The officer goes on to tell the

27:52

reporter, quote, I don't feel good about

27:54

this at all. Generally

27:56

speaking, you kidnap someone

27:58

to take their car money or to sexually

28:00

assault them. Reid's purse

28:02

was in her car, which was

28:04

found covered with soapsides at

28:06

the car wash after her

28:08

disappearance. The vehicle's door was open

28:11

suggesting Reid may have

28:13

sensed danger and tried to

28:15

return to her car Martin

28:17

said.

28:17

four witnesses. 1234

28:21

witnesses around

28:21

the corner from the car wash told

28:24

police that they saw two white

28:26

or his panic men in their thirties with

28:28

dark skin and hair

28:30

drive the wrong way on Powell

28:32

Street before the abduction.

28:35

The passenger may have had

28:37

a beard. Witnesses told

28:40

police they heard a scream

28:42

followed by the slamming of two

28:44

car doors. Well, I think eyewitnesses

28:46

are hearing is her fighting for her

28:48

life. And then they saw the same man drive

28:50

the wrong way down Fifth Street.

28:53

again, all according to the officer. The

28:56

suspects lacked a familiarity

28:58

with the street directions that

29:01

makes police think that the men did know Reed

29:03

or did not know the

29:05

area. The men were

29:05

driving a late nineteen eighties

29:08

model two door tan car

29:10

with

29:10

rounded tail lights and a

29:13

low rear end.

29:14

Quote, it appears at this time

29:16

that this is going to be a

29:19

genuine random kidnapping, end quote, that's

29:21

according to the assault unit officer

29:24

sergeant Martin. He goes on to say there's no

29:26

doubt in my mind that she went

29:29

unwillingly. Police fears,

29:31

shocked reads, friends

29:33

and coworkers. They say this

29:36

is Real

29:36

weird because she's

29:39

StreetSmart. Said her

29:40

friend Heather Bailey, you can be

29:42

as StreetSmart as you want

29:45

to be. If somebody has a weapon, they can

29:47

control you. And her friend goes

29:49

on to describe Reid and

29:51

saying that not only was she street

29:54

smart, but she was

29:55

in the army reserve. So

29:58

she's been trained to defend

29:59

herself. The newspaper article points out

30:02

that Colin Reid is five

30:04

feet three inches hundred and fifteen pounds

30:07

was a

30:07

certified public accountant at

30:10

the time. she's

30:13

really interesting to me here,

30:15

captain. She was actually a

30:17

Louisiana native And from my

30:20

understanding, she graduated high school

30:22

early and started attending

30:24

college

30:26

at the young age of sixteen. So a

30:28

very bright individual

30:29

that we are talking about. And then

30:32

the police go on to describe her

30:34

further in this article because,

30:36

of course, they are still looking for her

30:38

at this time. And they say

30:40

that Reed has shorter length dark

30:42

hair and brown eyes

30:44

when she was abducted,

30:46

she is believed to have been wearing

30:48

gold frame wire glasses, a pink

30:51

and ivory plaid hip

30:53

length and

30:54

an ivory wool scarf.

30:56

And they

30:56

said that Reid, our victim, appeared

30:59

to be running errands on that

31:01

Sunday night, and they base us off

31:03

of receipts that were found in her car that

31:06

revealed that she had deposited some

31:08

money in a cash machine

31:11

and

31:11

bought food before going to the

31:13

car wash to wash her car, and

31:15

then we believe her to have been

31:18

abducted

31:19

that from that haunting

31:21

scene at the car wash.

31:23

And so we have a lot of eyewitnesses

31:25

claiming that they saw two men.

31:27

Is it a similar situation with

31:30

like McDuff and Green,

31:33

where McDuff is gonna be

31:35

the leader

31:36

of this crime? Well, it's it

31:39

again, it it's similar in the way that it depends

31:41

on who you talk to. Right?

31:43

Because McDuff in the first Set

31:46

of murder says he's innocent, and Roy

31:49

Green says otherwise, well, in

31:51

this

31:51

situation, it is similar that

31:53

we end up getting

31:55

a confession from an accomplice,

31:58

but

31:58

this accomplice

31:59

doesn't come

32:00

forward in the way that Roy

32:03

Green did. This accomplice COMES

32:05

FORWARD BECAUSE HE'S FIGURED OUT

32:07

BY POLICE. HE'S PICKED UP BY

32:09

POLICE AND EVENTUALLY HE CABES

32:11

IN

32:11

WITH HIS STORY. what's weird

32:14

here. Again, you know, we talked about

32:16

the Texas

32:17

Tower Shooting and Charles

32:20

Whitman, but

32:20

that Kenneth McDuff has always been

32:23

connected to the Yogurt Shop

32:25

murders as well. So

32:27

the abduction of Colin Reid

32:30

takes place in the same city in the

32:32

same month

32:33

as the yogurt shop Quadruple

32:35

homicide. Yeah.

32:37

And

32:38

so he's always been connected

32:40

to that. He's been thought of by

32:42

some to possibly be

32:44

a suspect, another way that

32:47

he's connected is that the

32:49

great show America's most

32:51

wanted featured a segment on

32:54

The Yogurt Shop Murders, this was in March

32:56

of nineteen ninety two.

32:58

They were still trying to figure out

33:00

who had committed that

33:02

crime, they were still

33:03

trying to figure out who had abducted

33:06

Colleen Reid in

33:07

March of nineteen ninety two. So there was a

33:09

segment about her case

33:11

on that

33:12

same episode. While this guy definitely

33:15

has the ability

33:18

to

33:18

commit a horrible crime

33:20

like the

33:21

yogurt

33:22

shop murders. What we have here

33:24

too is that segment ran in

33:26

March of nineteen ninety two.

33:29

that same month, Melissa

33:32

Northrop, who was pregnant with

33:34

her third child at the time she

33:37

vanishes from a Waco convenience

33:39

store where she was working.

33:41

So she's the only attendant

33:44

that night she vanishes.

33:46

Kenneth McDuff's beige thunderbird

33:48

broke down and was

33:51

discovered one block from

33:53

the Waco Convenience Store where

33:55

this woman vanished from. It took a little over

33:57

fifty days later that

33:59

fishermen found Melissa's

34:01

body floating

34:03

in a gravel pit in Dallas County.

34:05

This is ninety miles north

34:08

of Waco. from my understanding captain, his car breaks

34:10

down. And it looks like

34:12

to me, he goes

34:12

to this convenience store, abducts

34:14

Melissa abducts Melissa Northrop.

34:18

and takes her car and then gets out of dodge with her

34:21

until. Right. This car situation

34:23

is going to make

34:26

Kenneth McDuff the target

34:27

of a nationwide manhunt.

34:31

Again,

34:32

to some people, to the people

34:34

that were closest to the triple homicide case,

34:37

THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND

34:39

THE VICTIMS FAMILIES. THIS

34:42

IS NOT A SURPRISE

34:43

TO THEM. Kenneth McDuff out abducting, killing

34:46

women, not a surprise to

34:48

them.

34:49

You know,

34:51

you know The three scariest

34:52

words that I can imagine

34:54

hearing together or seeing

34:56

or reading together, paroled

35:00

serial killer.

35:01

parrolled serial killer. And

35:03

this man, he was a he was

35:05

a killer when he was apprehended and

35:08

and put into prison and he

35:10

left prison a killer again and he

35:12

continued to kill after

35:14

he was released.

35:15

Now,

35:17

this is where Our

35:19

story really starts to ramp

35:21

up again.

35:22

You had asked

35:24

did the Coleen

35:27

read abduction Did it go the

35:28

same way as the triple homicide

35:31

did back in sixty six? I said in a

35:33

lot of ways it was similar because,

35:35

yes, you end up having an accomplice who

35:38

breaks down and confesses to

35:40

being a part of the crimes and

35:42

says that

35:44

Kenneth McDuff was the person that was in

35:46

control of the

35:48

crime.

35:48

Colleen Reid,

35:51

her abduction is

35:54

I mean is it's something that sounds like it's

35:56

straight out of a horror flick.

35:58

Hank Warley is the man

36:00

who breaks down. What happens is

36:03

The police

36:04

get some kind of

36:05

idea that

36:08

Kenneth McDuff was in the

36:10

area, in the

36:12

Austin City, the day that

36:14

Colleen Reid was abducted and

36:16

killed. And

36:18

and

36:20

they

36:20

figure out that he had been hanging out with this Hank Warley

36:22

guy. They pick up Hank Warley,

36:26

and after

36:26

after a pretty lengthy

36:28

session with him. He

36:30

ends up

36:30

confessing, and he says that

36:33

he and McDuff abducted, Colleen

36:36

Reid. Warley was thirty four

36:38

years old at the time.

36:40

He says

36:42

that he

36:43

thought or was

36:45

told by MacDuff, keep in mind

36:47

neither man is from the area, and

36:49

that makes sense when we read

36:51

that article article when they kept turning down

36:53

and going the wrong way on on more

36:55

than one wrong one

36:57

way street. Right. and that's what

36:59

the police thought all along that the the

37:02

abductors were from not from

37:04

that area and likely didn't even know

37:06

the victim. Warnerly

37:06

story backs that up. He says that he

37:09

was told by McDuff that

37:11

they were going to

37:12

Austin, Texas, that

37:14

night. so they

37:16

could score

37:17

some drugs. They were gonna meet

37:20

up with somebody, and

37:22

the details are

37:24

a little sketchy on that, but he says that they they went

37:26

there from his knowledge

37:29

to score drugs. And at

37:32

some point, they're now

37:35

in Austin.

37:35

They're driving around.

37:37

And

37:39

McDuff tells him

37:41

I'm going

37:41

to take a girl. Tonight, I'm

37:43

gonna I'm gonna find somebody and I'm gonna

37:45

take them. Right. And

37:46

he

37:47

it's a short period of time after

37:50

that, that they spotted

37:52

Colleen Reed, who

37:54

was alone at the car wash.

37:56

And according to Worley's story,

37:58

McDuff gets out of the

37:59

vehicle. And we gave

38:01

you a physical description

38:02

of Colin Reed.

38:05

We gave you physical

38:06

description of

38:08

Kenneth McDuff. He's

38:11

thirteen inches taller. Yeah. That's a

38:14

big boy. I think Colin Reid. And according to Warley, Mc Duff

38:16

walks very quickly

38:18

up to her.

38:20

doesn't say a

38:21

word, and he grabs her

38:23

by the throat and

38:24

lifts her up off of the

38:26

ground.

38:28

She's kicking her legs and warmly said that

38:30

he could see her feet, not

38:33

even her toes, would

38:35

touch the ground. and

38:38

McDuff just picked her up, walked her over to

38:40

the

38:40

vehicle, and forced her into the

38:43

back seat of the car, and then

38:45

off the three of them.

38:48

went

38:48

into

38:49

the night. And

38:51

very hauntingly, and just again,

38:53

just like a

38:56

horror flick, According to Warley, right

38:58

before McDuff grabs her,

39:00

Reid is saying please not

39:01

me. Please

39:04

not me. and he throws

39:06

her into the back of that car, and that's the

39:08

last time anybody saw

39:10

Colin Reid

39:12

alive. So

39:13

he breaks down, tells them the story. Now, he also tells

39:15

them that, yes, he

39:18

was involved in

39:21

The abduction. Yes. He was involved in

39:23

some assaults on Reid.

39:27

And McDuff insisted

39:30

on torturing her and

39:32

to the point that at one

39:36

point, victim bags the

39:38

victim begs Alva Henk Warley

39:40

to to kill her

39:41

so she doesn't have to

39:43

go through any more

39:45

pain and suffering. Worley

39:48

says that he while he

39:50

did commit these crimes and

39:52

was a participant in some of these

39:54

crimes, he was not actual

39:56

participant in the the

39:58

murder of

39:58

Colleen Reid as

40:00

McDuff dropped

40:01

him

40:03

off and

40:04

asked Warlie

40:06

for

40:07

a

40:10

knife. And he

40:10

said, hey, I this, you know, this is

40:12

where I'm gonna go, and then he used these

40:15

words I'm gonna use her app. Well, that's because

40:17

McDuff is a

40:18

piece of shit. So

40:21

Warley doesn't know exactly what

40:23

happened after that, but it, you know, it doesn't

40:26

take much to figure out that

40:28

that McDuff

40:30

killed calling

40:31

Reid. That night,

40:32

a short time after dropping

40:35

off, poorly.

40:36

It's almost like

40:39

McDuff has Part of the fantasy is to

40:41

have somebody involved with him as

40:43

he's committing these

40:46

horrible crimes. It's

40:47

very strange. Yes. I agree with

40:49

you, but there seems to be a lot of crimes

40:51

that he committed on

40:54

his own. I

40:54

wondered that and have been thinking a lot about that as well.

40:56

And I feel like with

40:58

McDuff that it's

40:59

more of a

41:02

case of whenever the mood should strike

41:04

him. He doesn't care if somebody's with him or

41:06

not. When he

41:08

decides that he's gonna go for it,

41:10

he goes for it. because

41:12

we read

41:13

off the speculation. The

41:16

speculation is that he

41:17

could have nine victims, fourteen

41:19

victims, or more.

41:22

That goes beyond the four victims that he

41:24

killed with another person present.

41:26

And you're right, Captain.

41:28

I don't know. Either it's part of his

41:31

sick

41:31

twisted fantasies or

41:33

it's just when

41:34

whenever the urge takes him

41:37

over that he's going to do

41:39

this no matter what.

41:41

And what what is clear though, it could

41:43

be both. But what is clear to me

41:45

is he seems

41:49

to believe and might show this to be the

41:51

case as well. It seems to me

41:53

like once he's made up his mind that he's

41:55

going to abduct

41:58

and kill, He

41:58

doesn't think that there's anything that can stop him. Well, and

41:59

don't know with the other victims if there

42:02

was somebody that was with him or

42:04

not because there

42:06

could have been just forward. Well and

42:09

you know what's weird too? And I don't

42:11

wanna get too mystical here. I don't wanna

42:13

get too spiritual on everybody. But

42:16

in a lot of ways, you wonder you wonder both sides of the

42:19

coin, at

42:19

least I do. One, had McDuff

42:21

been by himself that night

42:23

what he have on either of

42:25

these nights, sixty six or nineteen ninety

42:28

one, would he have committed

42:29

these horrible crimes? Personally,

42:31

I

42:31

believe he would have. whether he was had

42:34

an accomplice or or or not. I

42:36

agree. So then the flip side of

42:38

that coin is, in some way, was

42:40

it a god said that he had

42:42

help back in sixty six, and

42:44

that was our opportunity to

42:46

lock up this evil forever.

42:48

to snuff it out forever. Right. And we failed. Big

42:50

mistake. And it's only because

42:54

of Well, I shouldn't say it's

42:56

only because of because it sounds to me

42:58

like police were pretty hot on the trail

43:00

of Kenneth McDuff in nineteen

43:04

ninety Right. Even

43:04

before Hank Warley broke down, but

43:06

it doesn't seem like they had connected

43:10

McDuff to

43:11

the read,

43:12

abduction, and murder,

43:14

one hundred

43:15

percent. And then once they had poorly,

43:18

they they

43:20

have what is now some of their evidence to arrest this

43:22

guy. And and God bless

43:24

America's most wanted, that

43:27

great program because

43:30

It was their coverage

43:32

of Kenneth

43:33

McDuff, their

43:34

coverage of Colleen Reed's

43:38

case. that ultimately

43:40

led to Kenneth McDuff

43:43

being arrested. So

43:44

he had actually high tailed it

43:47

out of taxes. It

43:48

was getting too hot there for him. One, he's racking up

43:50

too many bodies on his

43:52

trail. And two, police

43:54

are now on his trail. So

43:57

at some

43:57

point, he leaves Texas

44:00

and he goes to

44:02

where were we just

44:03

a a week or so ago, Captain?

44:05

Too hot in the hot sub.

44:08

Kansas City, Missouri.

44:09

Old Kansas City, here we come. Yes.

44:12

He takes he he

44:14

takes on on a fake name

44:16

and identity in Kansas City, and he's working

44:19

for the trash

44:21

collecting company there.

44:24

and one of his coworkers

44:26

saw the segment of

44:28

America's most wanted seize

44:31

Kenneth

44:31

McDuff on

44:34

there calls

44:34

America's most wanted and says, I'm

44:36

pretty sure the guy I'm working with

44:39

is actually Kenneth

44:40

McDuff. And we said before,

44:43

You look up

44:43

a picture of this guy, there's no mistaking

44:46

him. He's he he's easily

44:48

recognizable. He has devil

44:50

eyes and a big,

44:52

old beak. So

44:52

on May fourth nineteen ninety two Kansas City,

44:55

Missouri. Kenneth McDuff is

44:57

arrested. Thank you to

45:00

the America's most wanted program and that individual

45:02

who called in with

45:04

that hot tip that

45:05

led police and

45:08

authorities to Kenneth

45:10

McDuff. He ultimately

45:12

will go and face trial

45:15

two more times. So

45:17

he's going to be charged with the abduction

45:19

and murder

45:19

of Coleen Reid, which

45:22

is

45:23

a difficult case for

45:25

the state of Texas

45:27

because when he

45:28

sent a trial, they

45:30

don't have her body.

45:32

What they do have is

45:34

Hank Warley, state star

45:37

witness, to explain and tell

45:39

the judge in the jury

45:42

what Kenneth McDuff did and what he assisted

45:44

Kenneth McDuff in that

45:47

night. McDuff will

45:48

also face a trial

45:51

In the Northrop case,

45:54

this

45:54

man is the

45:56

only man to my knowledge

45:59

That has

46:00

been sentenced to death by

46:02

three different counties, three

46:06

different juries. in

46:07

the state of Texas. He's the only person in

46:09

the

46:09

history of the state

46:10

of Texas to have two death

46:14

row inmate number. Yeah. Piece of shit number one and piece of shit

46:16

number two. And of course, McDuff

46:20

stands by his

46:22

original state from nineteen

46:24

sixty six, and he continues

46:25

to make similar statements

46:27

in

46:28

nineteen ninety two. He simply

46:30

says he

46:31

wasn't with Warley. and

46:33

that Roy Green is a liar.

46:35

That's his that's his short statement

46:38

to to the

46:40

general public. even after he is tried and convicted three

46:42

times for homicides.

46:44

And he's been

46:45

convicted of five

46:47

homicides in total. And

46:50

in an interview,

46:52

while he

46:52

is on death row, he says

46:54

the same

46:55

thing. I wasn't with Worley and Roy

46:57

Green as a liar. and he

46:59

goes on to say that the the statements

47:01

contradict one another because

47:04

Hank

47:05

Warley gave multiple statements

47:07

to police. And the reason why he gave

47:10

more than one statement to police is because

47:12

he was telling them what they wanted to

47:14

hear and he didn't know the

47:16

details of that case.

47:18

He says, I was convicted

47:20

by the

47:21

news media. The facts of

47:23

the case didn't warrant my

47:26

convictions. And at the time of this interview that I'm referencing

47:28

here, he still had

47:30

appeals in both of his cases.

47:33

and he believed that he would

47:35

get out on

47:37

those appeals. Well,

47:39

he got out before. And

47:41

the person conducting the interview says, so the

47:44

news media convicted you.

47:45

Kenneth McDuff replies, none

47:47

of the cases independently should

47:50

have been convictions. The news media accused me of having tie

47:53

ins and all of them. Essentially, what

47:55

he's saying is that you

47:57

wouldn't get a conviction If

48:00

if these cases were just

48:02

completely separate from one another, Brian, you

48:04

wouldn't be able to convict me if they didn't

48:06

know these other things that you suspected me

48:09

of. And so the

48:10

reporter probes a little bit more

48:12

and says, so are you saying that you've been convicted

48:14

in three separate murder cases?

48:17

that you are a suspect in half

48:19

a dozen more, that you've been

48:21

given three death penalties, and

48:23

that in fact, you're as innocent as the

48:25

fresh fallen snow. To which

48:27

McDuff replies, no.

48:30

I'm telling

48:32

you what the evidence is. There wasn't sufficient

48:34

evidence in any of these cases

48:36

for a conviction. What

48:41

a

48:41

grade a asshole because

48:44

he's you you can

48:46

hear and

48:46

see in his words He

48:49

doesn't mind being the monster. Big ass.

48:51

He isn't mind you believing that

48:53

he's killed all these people.

48:55

He doesn't mind that you believe

48:57

that he's done all these horrible things. But he wants to point

48:59

out that even if

49:02

they got the

49:04

right guy, The evidence

49:06

isn't there. There's

49:07

not sufficient evidence to

49:09

convict me. I

49:10

am the monster, but

49:12

I'm better. than your system.

49:14

I'm better than your law enforcement.

49:17

They didn't

49:18

do their

49:20

jobs. Well, looks like they did. He ended up in the right place in

49:22

the end. Yeah. A big mistake,

49:24

you know, by

49:26

Texas. One that they

49:30

have owned up to and essentially get

49:32

it right

49:33

in the end. But if

49:35

it wasn't

49:36

for green,

49:38

One of the things that we learned from green that's the most important

49:41

out of all this is

49:46

McDuff is going to commit horrible

49:48

crimes and do and

49:50

deny deny

49:52

deny deny.

49:54

never admit to be in there. Never never admit to

49:58

anything. And that will

49:59

always leave some doubt in

50:02

people's mind.

50:04

one

50:04

of the victims or believed to be a victim

50:07

of Kenneth McDuff, one of

50:09

their family members told

50:12

the

50:12

newspapers. When

50:15

talking about

50:16

Kenneth McDuff's

50:18

release

50:18

from prison,

50:21

And then he

50:23

goes on to kill other people. He says, the

50:26

victim's family

50:28

member says, They'll never

50:30

convince me that what they did was

50:32

right or ethical. The only way

50:34

he, meaning McDuff, knows how

50:36

to have a relationship with a woman is

50:39

to abduct them, rape them,

50:41

and murder them. She

50:42

goes on to say that he went to prison

50:44

a killer, came out a killer, and

50:46

will kill again if given the opportunity.

50:48

quote, they'll try to convince me in a few years that

50:51

he's seventy years old and

50:53

will never hurt anybody again.

50:56

That's bullshit. he'll find a

50:58

way

50:58

to rape and murder.

51:00

None of us will

51:01

be safe until he is dead,

51:03

which I absolutely agree, and that's

51:05

why he is the Texas monster. So one of

51:07

those trials captain was in nineteen ninety two in

51:10

Houston, and that was

51:12

for the

51:12

abduction and murder of Melissa Northrop.

51:16

At that

51:17

trial, we end

51:18

up with the current

51:19

sheriff from Falls County.

51:22

Remember, Falls

51:24

County? Sheriff's Department was the Sheriff's Department that arrested

51:26

Kenneth picked up for the

51:28

triple homicide

51:29

back in nineteen sixty six.

51:32

So the current day sheriff in nineteen ninety two is

51:34

at the trial and goes on record

51:37

saying, quote, Kenneth McDuff is

51:40

absolutely the most vicious and savage individual I

51:43

know. He has absolutely

51:45

no conscience and I

51:47

think he enjoys

51:50

killing. Goes on to say had Kenneth

51:52

McDuff been executed as

51:54

scheduled from his conviction

51:56

in nineteen

51:58

sixty six There's no telling how many lives

51:59

that would have saved.

52:02

Then we have some interesting

52:03

insights from a Dallas psychologist.

52:05

His name is

52:08

Fred Labewitz, who

52:09

after

52:10

after examining

52:12

Kenneth McDuff's crimes,

52:16

says, there's McDuff

52:18

is a guy that has no soul. He

52:20

says there is little in the

52:22

history of criminal science or the

52:24

study of the criminal mind to

52:27

account for Kenneth McDuff's sadistic

52:30

conduct. It goes on to

52:32

say that this guy goes beyond the

52:35

study of human behavior. The

52:37

good doctor goes on to

52:39

say in some people we can

52:41

find behavior

52:43

in their childhood.

52:44

An absent father,

52:47

a drunken mother, an

52:49

abusive home, but it appears there

52:51

was none of these. it seems his

52:53

incredible lust for evil appeared spontaneously and

52:56

full blown. No matter how

52:58

thorough the studies of the Ted

53:02

Bundy's in Charles Manson's of the world.

53:04

None of this can prepare us

53:05

for an encounter with

53:08

Kenneth McDuff. I

53:10

don't think we'll ever know how many victims in

53:13

total he actually had. It's hard

53:15

to say and I agree with

53:17

a lot of these comments

53:19

in a lot of these quotes here that

53:21

we're citing today because I agree.

53:22

I think that if he's out there,

53:24

if he's a free man, if

53:27

given the opportunity he would kill and kill

53:30

again. And

53:31

unfortunately, he was rather efficient at

53:34

doing it. and

53:36

it's very difficult to say how many

53:38

victims that we have.

53:40

We do

53:42

know that later

53:42

in life as it got closer to his execution date.

53:46

Now,

53:47

keep in mind.

53:49

Texas is not going to get this

53:51

wrong twice, and they are going

53:54

to make

53:54

sure that they execute this

53:58

monster. And as they're getting

53:59

closer to his

53:59

execution date, he's

54:02

a

54:02

rather physically

54:05

sick individual by

54:07

this time. He has, I believe,

54:09

hepatitis c and cirrhosis. He is

54:11

having considerable liver

54:14

problems at this point in

54:16

his life. He

54:17

did leave

54:19

the prison on at least

54:22

one occasion. I believe

54:24

it was maybe

54:25

two or three occasions and led

54:27

them to the remains of some

54:29

of his victims.

54:32

Now,

54:32

He

54:33

appeared to be trying to

54:35

extort money from law

54:38

enforcement prior

54:40

to leaving the prison and showing them where the remains were because he

54:42

was requesting seven hundred

54:45

dollars be

54:46

placed into his personal

54:49

inmate account. And

54:50

once the check cleared,

54:53

he would

54:53

give them a body. Those were

54:55

his words. Right. There's

54:58

no indication that anybody paid him a

55:00

dime. He may have just simply

55:02

done this because he was sick. He

55:04

was getting close to his execution date.

55:06

may have bought him a couple of extra may have just wanted

55:08

the field trip, if you will, out

55:11

of prison one

55:14

last time for a day or two, he did ultimately

55:16

lead them to Colin Reed's,

55:20

remains,

55:21

So he can

55:22

say as much as he

55:25

wanted back

55:25

then that Warley made

55:27

up the story. I

55:29

wasn't with Warley. Well,

55:30

you were able to

55:31

lead them to Colleen Reed's

55:34

remains.

55:34

And Warley's part of the story

55:36

was he

55:38

committed some of these crimes with you but was not with you

55:40

when you killed her. So

55:42

it's obvious

55:43

to me that He's

55:45

guilty of a lot of these crimes that he's

55:48

suspected of. He's guilty of every crime

55:50

that he was convicted of. And as

55:52

you said, captain, It's difficult

55:54

to say how many

55:56

people he killed. It's

55:57

also difficult to say how many lives would have

55:59

been spared had he

55:59

been locked up and remain

56:02

locked up after his crimes in nineteen sixty

56:04

six. Yeah. An absolute

56:06

monster. Good title for

56:08

this Texas

56:10

It's also

56:10

interesting to hear about when they're

56:13

on death row. And captain, you know

56:15

me. I

56:15

try to be a positive guy. I try to

56:17

be a positive thinker.

56:20

And I

56:20

want to be a

56:22

positive person

56:23

for everybody else out there,

56:25

but there are occasions

56:27

when one celebrates snuffing

56:30

out of evil. We

56:32

talked about that with Joseph Duncan. When

56:34

he passed away, there was a little

56:37

garage party that occurred that day.

56:39

We didn't have the garage back in

56:41

nineteen ninety eight, but on

56:43

November seventeenth in nineteen

56:46

ninety eight, Texas

56:46

state executed Kenneth Allen

56:48

Mcduff. At the

56:50

age of fifty two, at

56:52

their Huntsville

56:53

unit in Huntsville Texas.

56:56

He was pronounced dead at

56:58

six twenty six PM central

57:01

time after receiving

57:03

a lethal injection. Before he

57:05

was injected, McDuff was offered

57:08

the opportunity which many

57:10

of his victims were not offered.

57:13

The opportunity to have a

57:15

last meal, a request for a

57:17

last meal, at

57:18

which he requested

57:21

two t bone steaks, coca colas

57:23

with all the fix ins. It's

57:25

been stated

57:27

that

57:29

the prison chef prepared

57:32

hamburger and shaped it

57:34

into what a steak would

57:36

be would look like. And that's

57:38

what they served him instead of the

57:41

two t bone stakes he seen other reports that

57:43

state that he that he received

57:45

exactly what he requested. But

57:49

the other opportunity that he was afforded was to

57:51

give a final statement or

57:53

some last words.

57:56

to

57:56

which McDuff said, quote, I'm ready to be

57:59

released. Release

57:59

me. release me After

58:02

the execution,

58:02

after the execution

58:04

One of Kenneth

58:05

McDuff's victims' mothers said, I'm

58:08

glad this is over. My children are going

58:10

to rest in

58:12

peace now. and he's

58:14

going where he ought to go. I

58:16

know where

58:17

he's released it. wanna

58:31

thank you

58:34

so much for joining us here in the garage.

58:36

You are buddies. You are pals.

58:39

You join us here every week and we love you

58:41

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58:54

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58:56

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58:58

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59:02

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59:03

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59:06

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59:08

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