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this is true crime island,

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another true crime podcast,

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bringing it true crime from

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around the world i

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think

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i sprained back in the 70 it's

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an story of just how you

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can end up to japing

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something before you realize you

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can't get and it's betrayal

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of the highest order in

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fact, this story came to my attention

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because of a book launch recently

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called the trial by will

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become one of the characters

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in this whole sorry, saga

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references tonight that

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book the trial by sandy, logan

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of which i've been listening to the

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audible version of it the

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sydney morning, herald the olympic in

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the olympian washington, the

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charlotte observer, the age

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abc australia, and

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united press international

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trying to this is such an interesting case as

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a set of been listening the sandy's book for trial

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all week and i do recommend

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getting this one for a real deep dive

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i can only give you a brief overview

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of the whole story now , will

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say i did purchase a book myself

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and i'm not getting paid at all to do this story

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i can't settle down to the

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seventies in sydney australia that's

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where i grew up as alaska january

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non and seventy eight and two elderly

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women from lapointe oregon

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will be arrested in the next forty eight

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hours for smuggling now

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get these two tons

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of cannabis resin or we

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are as it is now in hash fifty

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, year old vera taught highs or tati

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is she was known and her partner sixty

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one year old flurries bc

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basia have been watch by customs

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in the federal drug squad for a couple of months

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before their separate arrests in

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sydney now this bust would

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be the biggest in australia at

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that time those who

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are these almighty some what's going

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, all as drugs well

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viera or totti as she was nine

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was born in hollywood nineteen i'd

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say you end up the

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be quite old greg quite so six

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faiths and she was a pretty good athlete

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nineteen she graduated college and became

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involved in professional softball sadly

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though she started getting injuries and by a

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of ram nine forty stop playing

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in fact she would have played in the nineteen

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thirty six berlin olympics same

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for the usa if she hadn't been

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plagued with injuries such

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, ended up managing a bowling

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alley and then she ended up winning season since

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it's in balling size used pretty good

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at what she was delany and nine

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forty one with the war in europe in full swing

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thought he got a job at north

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american aviation and ice

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working on the assembly line by

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december nine forty two a year after

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the bombing of pearl harbor in the full

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entry the us i in the world war two

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trotting joined a women's army corpse

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as a first class private

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net within a year she was promoted

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to first class sergeant was it was it was amazing

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after the war she worked for marine products

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then ncr i used to wear from

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and see i disagree i was wealth by

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nine forty i thought he joined the place and

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she married a non and sixty two but this marriage

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ended in divorce the following year and

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once you are still married though she got a job at douglas

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aircraft way would meet her lifelong

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partner flurries bc

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busier now bc she was

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born in wisconsin she

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looked after you're sick month early month and

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delivered newspapers and collected

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bottles to make ends meet

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when she left scotia were to papa pens and

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studied message bc then

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got a job the world war two

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brought a cat with dupont on the highly

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secretive manhattan project now

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the manhattan project was a research

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and development project during world war two

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that produce the first nuclear weapons

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so is highly ,

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secretive nineteen forty three she moved into buying

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working on the production line any

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not easy to to bc mates totti

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and douglas aircraft's as i mentioned

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before they would end up as great friends

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and living together living ,

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love fishing hiking in all as outdoorsy

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things though all ice axes in

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their community helping people he

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not a fifty three they bought a house together

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you brea tar california and in nineteen

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sixty nine so when jumping caught a few

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years ass sorry had an accident

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and retired from work he would have

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been around fifty one at the time in

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the mid seventies i moved to la pine oregon

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border might a home and settle down into what

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they thought would be a baseball respects

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retirements fishing and hiking

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in like i said like just loves

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community where

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how wrong they would be nine

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seventy six while visiting toadies brother

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verne todd senior a

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favorite nephew then and and leonard

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todd junior have ended turn up the

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house now party with side place the

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same mountain by happen

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maybe it wasn't such a coincidence that

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he turned up that die but without getting

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the that light then todd born

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in on a see what forty three was a good looking

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blood stanley six feet tall a

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plane to a stranger and worked as an actor he

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likes sailing and he's also made

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beach body apparently when

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when seven he had the ideal ten californian

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pine cones in the cabin and handles

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which made a friend of his father a lot of money

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now you can actually see these on eighth season

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hits the now so i have i

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have in nineteen sixty six

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he went to australia or on the yacht nam sang

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and entered the sydney to hobart yacht rice

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where they play seventh he loved australia

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any state one production

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he was in was cold boys in the

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band that to a nationally he

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nodded seventy he started developing

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an inflatable baby boss

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which he called tommy bath by

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nineteen seventy two at launch with four

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thousand orders in it's first twelve

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days he had the idea to make

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these because the first army has bob exceeded

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perfect as a baby was slippery

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it was were me felt really tense

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holding on this ,

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the id to create a plastic tub that

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would stick to the table giving it's

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ability apparently it worked well

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but from what i can say the guy he developed

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with only ended up with a few hundred dollars

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out of adventure and looks like

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there was pretty good at making sure

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he looked after itself that

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is burn character is good looking and

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actor he seems that plenty of money

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and he turns up to his parents places just

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when he's rt totti is that it's

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at this writing the van cells totti that he needs

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a camper van in australia to do australia

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film shoot and offered her and

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bases twenty five thousand dollars

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if i would fly to germany to pick one

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up that he to organize drive

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it on organize adventure holiday through europe

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to india where he would make

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them and have and veins ship to australia the

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desert the i'm too good

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to be true you

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because he nineteen seventy six

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twenty five thousand us dollars is

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worth about one hundred and thirty

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thousand dollars now after

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totti and bessie discuss the deal they

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eventually agreed to the adventure taught

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he was in was bit a bad health but by

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oldest seventy oldest seventy was declared

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the to travel by left the u s

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arriving at frankfurt april

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western germany on august twenty

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seventh now other than gone

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and was and border to mexico to get checked prescription

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drugs not a totti or totti or

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had traveled internationally said this

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would have been very exciting for the couple

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now once i arrived in frankfurt i had a short

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domestic flights to they

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they had arranged to meet them now

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when it wasn't made a made them as organized

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and this would be a precursor things to come

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but i were in the hotel so they went for

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a walk around two days later

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them with still a nice shot he

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did turn up the following day with a couple of

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others and be up a bubbling

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a mr x and mr x his

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wife passed the child now

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bob lang apparently he was in

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the strategy and film producer then

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told saudi and bc that mr x

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his wife and the baby guy

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with them on this trip to india after

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a short time then and his cronies lift

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saying that they had to go check on the preparation

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of the camp events i guy

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so at this point on i've law would

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wanna be driving a camper van through multiple

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countries with another couple and make

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kid anyway a few

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days light of then turns up until story

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she needed to come with him to the yuletide

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organize a con i for the camper

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vans now tonight is like

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a passport for your car so

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you could drive it through multiple countries

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with a happy haven't to do plenty

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, extra paperwork and pies sixes

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and all that stuff stuff kanye

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as he sees in a nine usually the owner

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of the vehicle and this means that when the person

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on the con i piper would lays the contrary

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i must leave with camper van as well or

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at least have it shipped out as a leading

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the if not when they will be responsible

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for whatever charges or replicable for

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importing the importing side

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saudi and then took off the england to arises

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con i which they got and returned

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germany west germany now

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i'm sure this could have been done in germany

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even if the camper van was registered in

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england i mean it must already

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have had a con i for it's been tammany

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maybe i'm not sure the main these look

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suspicious already spent you can imagine

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for taught he then with her favorite

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nephew he would have just gone along

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with him seats ah study manley

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and once back in stock got the final preparations

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for the trip with done mr x

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and his wife to end up and guide saudi nbc

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a stack of baby food and supplies

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the putting the can't remain i also guys

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and traveler's checks to the value of two thousand

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five hundred age and two tickets

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for the trip from bombay to seattle

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for the return journey back time

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now bombay causes their nine book

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mumbai but i'm kind of references

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as bombay through apps and

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then wasn't there at this meeting you know

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is busy with business and stuff that

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it worked out the best route to india along

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the y twenty nbc would stop

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off and supplied these inflatable

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tommy basel it's help promote

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the product perverts i was stacked in the van

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on six september though we're ready to roll

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but mr x the wife in the baby

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nice guys but then told saudi

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not to and load the baby stuff

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and just believe that from

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an outsider who knows the story

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this is very suspect and if i didn't

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know what was going on i would stop

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myself to just get a little annoyed

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with burn and he's arrangements

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any way off by god from

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stuttgart they went through austria yugoslavia

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they're just give the flavia was one big

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country and now it's bosnia herzegovina

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croatia , of i montenegro

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north macedonia serbia and

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sylvania analyze i

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went through bulgaria greece

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and turkey and world are in turkey's in dropped

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are some of these tubby bars in istanbul

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for istanbul prime for a savvy and

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then they have to wait a week to get visas

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for iran now they had to go

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along the russian blue the to iran lang

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syne modern day armenia and georgie

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were part of the uss ah size i would

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probably going along the armenian

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border how things

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change i any white once

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i arrived in iran then told saudi

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nbc that he would make them in kabul

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in afghanistan however on

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a rival only mrs

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eggs and bob with their in kabul

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and then turned up later and told them to go

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on to pakistan and he would

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make them at the borders totti

12:31

, why not travel with his birthday

12:33

tells us that the can i was for

12:35

her and one passenger only

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only told them to clear the border in

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the pakistan's while he and everyone

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else would make them just as the

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other side he he would act

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like he was hitching a ride so as not

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to look to toddy

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nbc we're starting to

12:53

get suspicious but then told

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them to do it my wife said is no

12:57

trouble now from what

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i can gather this wasn't sitting

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wasn't nice wide or it was in quite a

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demanding why i thought

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he was wondering what he was up to bc

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had the same thoughts by shrugged it

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off thinking burn wouldn't do anything dodgy

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he wouldn't have wouldn't put him in homs why

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i mean he's family podium

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bc go through the border checkpoint in the

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pakistan where they saw burn on the

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other side of the road alone

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now bob lying and mrs x

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had returned stuttgart side they

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weren't they are know once i got

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to push our just inside the border

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of pakistan then told

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then women the needed the camper van

13:38

for van few dies do beta test feel

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mean check the camera equipment and the lights

13:43

so he checked the means of lodging and took

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off for a few days no wonder

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what else he had planned for the camper van while

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in pakistan when then returned

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then was suddenly with mrs x and

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bob lengths now these points

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may everything same weeds and

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it's with seeming we did karate and

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bc as h i went on

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next stop was on to lahore just

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not far from the border to india

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within met them again when

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i tried to cross the border that were told to return

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to his lammas bad to get visas

14:15

as i wouldn't grant these bases at the

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border now this piece totti off

14:19

because not only was she having health problems

14:22

but she thought burn and sorted all

14:24

these ads say seen as a have

14:26

an a government eats saudi solver

14:29

and that she'd had enough and wanted to just go

14:31

home and for him to finish driving the bombay

14:33

still so i asked him what was really

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going on bird d c

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but nothing really hits the disease question

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you can imagine am pissed off she was as

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now days with a motorway it's

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a ten hour round trip from lahore

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to islam as bad back

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, simpsons nine seventy seven

14:52

was probably a guide track and it's probably

14:54

suck twice as long if not more

14:57

so then ended up offering the fly to islamabad

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with saudi nbc to do the visas

15:02

rather than drive saudi

15:04

nbc left pakistan with

15:06

than waiting for them just inside

15:09

the indian border so again

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he isn't with them and with camp of and

15:13

while crossing a border toady

15:15

question him again about what was going on

15:17

and then ended up telling us it's

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not a goddamn business well

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mister favorite nephew really

15:25

nice guy and all lad is starting to show

15:27

israel collars if what he wants

15:30

is being questioned like tony

15:32

nbc started off on the final led the

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bomb by wave that would again

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make them on the why they had mechanical

15:39

problems they had terrifying light

15:41

nine encounters with the locals and

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pretty much just got out with their lives

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said it's a bomb by but

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i'll leave all that that it out for those who

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read books now , promised

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to meet them in bombay in mid october

15:55

again though often on this journey

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from landing journey from germany or the

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way to bombay totti would try

16:02

to contact van betty was often

16:04

on contact a box in turn

16:06

up a few days later or one of the mystery

16:08

gang of bob lang or the exes

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would be there are probably

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would have with the camper van in the dodgers pod

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bombed by and got on a plane added

16:17

let the insurance sorted out and

16:20

guess what then wasn't there to make

16:22

totti nbc in bombay that

16:24

bomb blank was and this

16:26

irritated saucy but at least i could be rid

16:28

of the camper van and finally fly

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high

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well boggling tells him that they

16:35

have to now go to a stranger to pick up

16:37

the man says again to ship it to a stray

16:39

us or they'll be arrested

16:41

and jailed in india as the clan

16:43

eyes stabbed in her part for

16:45

now saudis years but again

16:48

i agree to guy to see me as i say

16:50

no other way out of the situation

16:53

van is organized to be put on the cargo ship

16:55

in at least bombay on the fifth of november

16:58

line told totti that van would they

17:00

had sydney to pick up the vein i'm

17:03

a six november sodium basic supplies

17:05

to australia via hong kong and they

17:07

arrive in sydney on the tenth a november

17:10

and , he just install for dice

17:13

and when he did show he invited them to this

17:15

party now the potty thy soul

17:17

bob lang but everyone else

17:20

called in seal it and he totally

17:22

ignored and avoided saudis and

17:24

bc them zion told

17:26

them they now have to go have melvin

17:29

said pick up the way sorry

17:32

this same the neverending story

17:34

and she didn't understand nor did then

17:36

give or any proper explanation why

17:38

they couldn't pick up the van when the cargo ship

17:40

docked in sydney and that was be a day

17:43

before it got to melbourne on the sixth of december

17:46

now the times there were several drug

17:48

shipments being detected being cars

17:50

and vans being shipped to a strike via

17:53

india often starting

17:55

off starting west germany now back

17:57

in the die sydney morning herald reported

17:59

to humans been busted one

18:01

on thirty january and allied by

18:03

thirty three year old nine suppressed

18:06

german driven some frankfurt

18:08

to bombay and ship to analyze

18:11

and i was ninety five kilograms

18:13

of cannabis resin the ,

18:15

reported that are thirty six year old

18:17

german a mr hanky miss

18:19

bank bank the same route

18:22

map with germany to india and

18:24

then shipped the cat australia he was

18:26

arrested in sydney when the com was man

18:28

to have a t kilograms of

18:31

cannabis resin or as the

18:33

federal bureau of narcotics

18:35

were investigating these cars and vans

18:37

with drugs very closely at the time

18:40

and saudi and bases camper van was flagged

18:42

was suspicious not only by the bureau

18:45

euro cats , prefer

18:48

backed by customs officials as well

18:51

then when the cargo ship docked in sydney they

18:53

did a drill inspection of the camp events

18:56

and in the halls of by drill by sam

18:58

what would be analyzed his cannabis resin

19:01

you guys but ah yes the might a day

19:03

to be sixty kilograms secreted

19:05

in the van the , van

19:07

was allowed to go on to melbourne the

19:09

burrow lust launched operation

19:12

genius and there were dozens of offices

19:14

evolve and saudi and base he

19:16

flew to melman to collect the land

19:18

on the seventh of december verne turns

19:21

up then sell them i would have

19:23

to pick up the van the now driver

19:25

to sydney

19:26

later

19:28

like they were pissed off

19:30

at facing may also even thinking about what

19:32

they gone through he then told

19:34

him he would give them an extra have get

19:36

these he would give them an extra

19:39

two hundred thousand us

19:42

dollars they probably didn't

19:44

believe him and two hundred thousand you may

19:46

imagine how much that's worth today bessie

19:49

told him told deal with deal with then

19:52

then threatened them saying if i didn't

19:55

now regret it for the rest of the laws and

19:58

this stage totti bases then

20:00

were under constant surveillance

20:03

on a nice a december the man was supposed to be ready

20:05

to pick up now seventy

20:07

so since story in any

20:09

book and it's pretty much troops the ninth

20:12

was a friday and the van was ready

20:14

to pick up in the afternoon after not

20:16

only being cleared by customs but

20:18

also needed to be played by quarantine

20:21

friday afternoons of the best time to get anything

20:24

done especially since an organization

20:26

it's beer o'clock time in the afternoon

20:29

side quarantine we're going to prices

20:31

vanity or monday and now i

20:33

don't see quarantined were enormous

20:36

operation at all customs worth

20:38

the quarantine saffron the opposite

20:40

is involved in operation genius took

20:42

the opportunity of having this extra

20:44

weight gain to look at the vance to try and

20:46

find out exactly how much resin

20:49

was in the van mail they sound

20:51

but the whole floor and water

20:53

tanks were full of resin so the

20:55

earlier estimate of about sixty

20:58

kilos would in fact turn

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out to be one thousand nine hundred

21:03

kilograms and that's just under

21:05

four thousand two hundred pounds though

21:09

we're now at the twelve the december on monday

21:12

remembered saudi nbc were ready to fly

21:14

five min me dot cyber from bomb by

21:17

as i just wanted to be done with the whole deal

21:20

they are down yes down read

21:22

more stuffing around in melbourne finally

21:24

totti nbc mike the why not to

21:27

sydney now one of

21:29

the get into the nitty gritty of everything

21:31

that happens he can read the book for the big

21:33

date dots that this operation

21:36

would be the biggest surveillance operation ever

21:38

in australia at least since

21:40

world war two there are several

21:43

dot government agencies involved and dozens

21:45

of offices all following a

21:47

couple of ladies in a cab event

21:50

now that i just got busy my why

21:52

the city by take this back way

21:54

up through dob i went on said dummy do

21:57

and sunny do is ride out mistakes

22:00

it's about four and a half hours drive

22:02

north west of sydney onset

22:04

dies rides so it's why

22:06

past city why north sydney

22:08

stuff you down to see me you've gotten

22:10

so much further boss sydney it's not

22:12

funny now in melbourne i

22:15

had met a couple and they had dinner

22:17

with them now these couple by again

22:20

lead on this part of the journey that

22:22

think ah this is great a friend from melbourne

22:24

let's go and have drink systems and eight

22:27

games and remember this couple throw

22:29

a bit light around now donny

22:31

do my have been this drop off

22:33

point but then was

22:36

another shot army helicopters

22:38

in the a problem with noticed by countess of violence

22:41

with vince group and site nothing

22:44

happened totally , get hold

22:46

of than on the fine but some other guy would

22:48

often answer this phone study

22:50

told the gone find a gun to sydney

22:52

to get out of the hate they ended up

22:55

at potpourri that which is on the coast

22:57

about six hours drive north of sydney

22:59

at the time i'm an

23:01

intro by the guy is gonna find

23:04

not than to , to sydney

23:06

now they would end up breaking city day

23:08

on the twenty second the december there

23:11

was there more driving around they still had the van

23:13

and i just wanted to go home when

23:15

pacey was checking the real cause of the van

23:18

she nodded his black thing attached

23:20

to the spring honeycomb

23:22

learn about it after they removed

23:24

it never saw that a put it back

23:27

and , asked why he said of want

23:29

them to know where you are it

23:31

doesn't matter now you

23:34

can imagine are you freaking out about

23:36

this what you mean then

23:38

tried to find a way to get the drugs out of

23:40

this van without buying fans how

23:43

do you wanna dance she really knew something

23:45

was going on now then ,

23:48

it was an international syndicate running

23:50

these and i have to follow orders or

23:52

else so you can imagine what or

23:54

else makes sense although

23:57

it's her van with the kanye

23:59

in her know in and she wanted out

24:01

should have to ship it back to germany ourselves

24:05

it's their needs a that

24:07

night then taught totti

24:09

that i could transfer the ownership

24:12

the ball he told him it

24:14

was a little bit a grass maybe in the van

24:17

but if i got caught i would just get off

24:19

with a slap on the risk because pots

24:21

basically legal in the sky total

24:24

bullshit at the end of the night

24:26

with not a seventy seven fighting fruit

24:28

and nine seventy i'd i would be the last

24:31

time they ever see the it

24:33

wasn't became the decided that with

24:36

more driving around saudi eventually

24:38

got the sheets and sheets put the span

24:41

in storage in gospel you

24:43

got legal advice and found that she could have parted

24:45

ways with a man at any time during

24:48

her journey and it was explained to

24:50

her have colonize actually work

24:52

that you realize shipping lied

24:54

to all along the

24:57

karate and form byrne said she'd left the van

24:59

and gossip and had transferred ownership

25:01

cities lawyer see so and

25:04

he could just deal with any so saudi

25:07

nbc were really just to be read

25:09

it a city man and started to

25:11

make plans to go home the

25:13

problem is taught he ended up in hospital

25:16

for a few days of the in january

25:18

we try to in hospital for hospital couple of days it was

25:20

decided the bc would go home first

25:23

and totti once decides what

25:25

follow her a dioxide louder while

25:28

baby was about to board a plane back to the

25:30

u s she was met by police in

25:32

arrested and she was taken down ten

25:35

the she was totally confused he

25:37

she was about to fly high season of the

25:39

pops yet lounge and now

25:41

she was in an interview room being accused

25:44

of drug smuggling the next day

25:46

or maybe the day after that toady who

25:48

had no idea bc had been

25:50

arrested within the prices had

25:52

checking out of the hospital when she was approached

25:55

by that couples that i'd made

25:57

on the trip from melbourne but i went

25:59

feel i travel

26:00

what cops

26:01

they arrested her and took a dancer that

26:04

around the same time the vanoc gospel

26:06

was under surveillance but the story

26:09

ended up breaking into the media and

26:11

this enabled vernon bob lang

26:13

whose real name would end up being phillips shines

26:16

to go to ground and flee the country

26:18

the cops were pissed off after all

26:20

the money they spent following a

26:23

van and to grannies around for months

26:25

resulted in not being able to apprehend

26:27

the miss the bigs the game we'll

26:30

cut to the chase me the couple

26:32

but tati and bases men on the journey

26:34

from melvin would end up being the

26:36

main investigators and i pretty much sweet

26:39

mouth that means of telling all with the promise

26:41

that the most i would get as punishment will

26:43

be a slap on the wrist and deport [unk]

26:46

that was another happen you don't make

26:48

fools of government agencies and get

26:50

away with that guy to try and

26:53

end up being convicted on drug trafficking

26:55

charges mode also get fourteen

26:58

years age with out for

27:00

wrong because someone had

27:02

the goddamn to such a big operation

27:05

are you i bite lodging appeal but this would ultimately

27:08

be withdrawn after all

27:10

i can size dodgy legal advice

27:13

is advice fourteen years could have become

27:15

twenty five years once he appeals

27:17

heard as i did have two

27:20

tons of has seen the van once

27:22

i miss the eggs and bob knight i

27:24

try i feel up shine were

27:27

on hard you seen west germany the

27:29

obese hinted totti and betty

27:31

being released after a year

27:34

or whatever is they would probably

27:36

be required to give evidence against these

27:39

these guys this drug syndicates

27:41

if they end up going back into the us that

27:43

was control of now this

27:45

is where the author of the tried comes into the

27:47

picture sandy line and s a

27:49

n d i feel looking he'd

27:52

been watching the case i'm fault and got in

27:54

touch with saudi nbc eventually

27:56

they became friends and sandy not

27:58

only was it a listen to the while but

28:00

he would keep them up to date with goings on

28:02

bring them us magazines and he would

28:04

lobby for their release eventually

28:07

they would get an early release manning

28:10

in san francisco and the twenty third

28:12

of march nineteen eighty three they

28:15

gun five years inside

28:17

now buys five years as

28:20

you can imagine in a women's prison in sydney

28:23

a lot of it wasn't very good at all and

28:25

they did get moved random couple of other prisons

28:27

which is basically country

28:29

prisons the game have

28:31

a rate of that in sandy

28:35

okay so it's not

28:37

a nice three and they back let's

28:40

break this down a little bit then

28:42

toward studies vibrant if you probably

28:45

have five it because he had that charm and charisma

28:48

useless narcissistic and psychopathic

28:51

the her he seems so successful

28:53

with his acting career he was a shrewd

28:56

businessman if

28:58

he was around today you never know

29:00

he might be a typical tinder swindler

29:03

podium beatty had set themselves up you know

29:05

after all they working life for a

29:07

client requirements that this scumbag

29:09

burn saw them as the perfect couple

29:11

the smuggle drugs forums and is organized

29:14

crime syndicate a couple of all

29:16

women when by the taught to smuggle drugs and

29:18

would die especially upping it

29:20

from what it looks like the getting a hundred keel

29:22

as the van to foods hands

29:25

now own why through europe and finally and india

29:28

he'd see them making them think they had

29:30

no choice because of this can

29:32

i that had the head toward the tories

29:34

passports all lies

29:36

they could a ditch the van at any stage

29:39

and when it looked like totti nbc would dog

29:41

bio says when then started

29:43

to get angry with with them his

29:46

through college was starting to come in now

29:49

at the time my seizures are safe worth

29:51

might be better under daylight else out the mice

29:54

but the stick yeah rt and her friend

29:56

with nearly two tons of fast

29:58

that's is truly a

30:00

when tony and bessie were arrested one

30:03

mistake i did my with the mentioned

30:05

to investigators the take been off

30:07

the two hundred said the and dollars to

30:09

complete the delivery of the camp camp

30:11

events over and above the twenty five

30:14

thousand they were initially office because

30:17

once she's got into media oh branded

30:19

as ruthless dread traffickers

30:21

only in it for the money there

30:24

is this didn't go down well once

30:26

that was sentenced by look like

30:28

they're gonna get gonna huge payday

30:30

if there was successful a

30:33

police operation was huge and i spend

30:35

so much money the windsor any

30:37

these can go to get good at st paul's

30:39

that the camper van was being watched by

30:41

gotta ground said the only ones

30:43

i could pin anything on was

30:45

totti nbc podium

30:48

baby were also under the impression

30:50

from the investigators that if

30:52

i cooperated but would probably just get

30:54

a fawn may be deported not

30:56

fourteen years this

30:59

really isn't illegal thing for

31:01

investigators to promise what sort

31:03

of sentence you gonna get if you cooperate

31:06

with it's not like we had played deals

31:08

or anything that you're actually going to saw podium

31:11

basic they just got screwed by every

31:14

i got screwed by family screwed by friends

31:17

and the authorities then

31:19

he was known for his drug dealings he'd

31:21

been watch for years but at the time

31:24

he was slimy enough to never be caught

31:26

red handed handling these drugs

31:28

and back in the day cops could

31:30

listen in the phone calls but couldn't use

31:33

evidence gained from these phone calls in

31:35

court said i knew he

31:37

was involved in drug trafficking but

31:39

they needed for him to be busted with

31:42

the good fine tab evidence

31:44

legislation would be light a pass by parker

31:47

now only authorities native with the burned

31:49

gonna pick up his man from gosman and

31:52

i would have put him away and probably told

31:54

nbc got they got

31:56

fourteen years and portrayed as ruthless

31:58

drug smugglers be someone

32:00

had to go down after all the money spent

32:03

on the operation if i'd been laid

32:05

off the drug enforcement bureau

32:07

would have looked what's just a bunch of incompetence

32:10

fools what , also find

32:12

amazing and it was probably due to the laws

32:14

of the time is it dozens of offices

32:17

were trailing all round a stray

32:19

us for a couple of months with a cap

32:21

of and still bola hash now

32:24

days if days drug shipment these intercepted

32:26

these drugs the replies with something else

32:28

and then after it's picked up

32:30

the perpetrators up the because i think

32:32

it's full of whatever i

32:35

think sandy's book had the perfect title betrayed

32:38

and then so i said before this is not

32:40

an ad for the book but i really recommend

32:42

you bought to get the real jake

32:45

live i , best get

32:47

the audible version you can sit back and relax

32:49

and listen to the full story i thought he and

32:51

bases drink across europe and

32:53

in india and traveling through australia

32:56

or and they offer prison experience experience

32:59

much more i cant bring you in just

33:01

one episode sandy has so much

33:03

detail in his book betrayed

33:06

the tried by family and betrayed

33:08

by the justice system one

33:10

thing as well that will be tried as

33:12

granny drug smugglers but neither saudis

33:15

know bessie were grandmother when

33:17

a mother that is the

33:19

media forty one spies as

33:21

old ladies this column granted these

33:24

it karate and bases blind and deaf dog

33:26

they left with a friend selma mitchell before

33:28

they left america will sadly

33:30

she had to be put down before they return

33:34

audi sadly died on the thirtieth of april

33:36

nineteen ninety six at the i just sixty eight

33:38

with bessie passing away in nineteen

33:41

ninety eight and suicides i did

33:43

too then when they ended

33:45

up back in the usa under issue night

33:48

as , i how hard the assign authority

33:50

search for him but he was never brought to justice

33:52

for his crimes crimes would die in

33:54

the us not that long ago actually twenty

33:57

nine time now i

34:00

am a bit nervous releasing this episode because

34:02

i know sandy will probably listen though it's

34:04

i feel like he's gonna be live a city schools

34:07

and be mocking me dick as much like

34:09

and assignments i i got most

34:11

of it right wow

34:13

i wonder the random stranger came

34:15

up to you offering you stacks of money

34:18

to drive a van around the world you

34:20

do it nancy got the same

34:22

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34:24

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