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i girl what are we talking about today

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white hot the rise and fall of

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abu

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the and

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right now my son whoever

4:39

but this is insane

4:40

maybe you do you remember

4:42

the abercrombie had a law that got me

4:44

about every like couple of months the i remember

4:47

have you been

4:48

they're never liked the supremacy of the second

4:50

level and probably honorable for the earth one

4:52

hundred was like he was sworn it was saga

4:55

afford it was very gay the i guess

4:57

it as eventually the understand why like

4:59

it went right over the general public had how

5:01

homo erotic the whole abercrombie brand what's

5:03

with the gave one hundred percent new

5:05

and the girls like the girls in the gaze

5:08

at the same idea they were like little does that

5:10

apply the same second

5:13

no one realizes when

5:16

it but im gay yeah i'm into

5:18

the abercrombie and fitch that was not really my thing

5:21

i am exactly who they didn't want

5:23

i was like the not hot kid who thought i did

5:25

that are looking if i wore amazon weapon

5:28

and the impact other assorted

5:31

the backstory of the outside

5:32

why are you might have had us

5:34

american if

5:37

you weren't wearing to amazon you weren't who

5:42

remember the pressure fits in here

5:44

to stay with i , ever come is

5:46

saying saying

5:48

that say now that said it was very close

5:51

look like everyone here

5:53

is a guy one here who i'd just

5:55

shredded like you carve out carve

5:57

green and of the world com

6:02

as malaysia

6:08

the point of his image of an all

6:10

american youth

6:13

and i will watch have ever have been like what

6:15

is so special about this sort it

6:17

is so seen this and

6:22

maternity boarding school

6:25

one reason

6:30

, people like illusion

6:34

heart of our

6:38

so while a top we need

6:40

a bunch of the former models and they're talking

6:42

about the bags remember the bags were also

6:44

like soft core porn

6:45

what are explaining is that all

6:47

of the models were naked and all of the images

6:49

but they're selling

6:49

what kind

6:52

of genius also eventually we're going to get

6:54

this companies backstory i had no idea oh

6:56

there's a whole thing it's so crazy

6:59

people , saying like name

7:04

over the clothes and that's why hated cel mai

7:06

know

7:07

that like a plane shirt everything i'd have

7:09

abercrombie on it or some stupid races graphic

7:11

realize through have we have i was out into the

7:13

people were obsessed and like kids are

7:15

covering their school books with it it away when

7:17

this would your lockers for didn't people

7:19

were able to figure out how to fold the paper so

7:21

that the spine of the book that the perfect

7:24

abercrombie saying that allows steve

7:26

tipped ingenious i could never achieve

7:28

yeah i know people knew for sure

7:30

had the cutouts in their locker

7:31

what a book survive

7:34

on level

7:38

people you can be just like them and i'm like

7:41

why gotta tell you i knew a

7:43

girl who actually got like a abercrombie

7:45

degli she never became like a famous model and

7:47

she only did one sued for she did have a photo

7:49

appear like in the towel wow that's crazy

7:51

wow that it was she was like out a positive or

7:53

whatever some of the gb ram and they bought a boomerang

7:55

she was a guy wasn't

7:56

documentary sorry guess is that recruiter

7:59

recruiting us like

7:59

more doing exactly

8:02

that the burger and you

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have a scrappy do it's like rubbing where they're

8:06

from and one of them

8:07

the a baby mamas challenge see

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a new york new york seven one nine

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since birth telesis's fanatic

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test

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oh and everyone

8:22

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8:24

as well as amish

8:27

country what

8:32

i'm kind of connecticut i dunno

8:34

to and i've no idea honey the area code

8:36

a be like civil what i baby i'm like whoa

8:39

that

8:41

again and your mom needs the home and forty

8:43

five minutes sweetheart i just don't know

8:45

how it's taken us five years the cameras

8:47

in the booth how is it taking us out log of

8:50

soccer on camera know don't remember

8:52

that that's so you're doing great we

8:54

also hear about all these famous people like before

8:56

they were famous i'm at all your eggs and

8:58

ashton kutcher january jones and taylor swift

9:00

who was part of their rising stars campaign oh my

9:02

god this is a kind of a slut same taylor to assert

9:05

that said i have more boyfriends that he slept at that

9:07

they have actually had to remove it affects

9:10

, lot have a problem gen

9:12

joseph it was joseph it i didn't know that she

9:14

was

9:15

see we're going to the in in her abercrombie pictures

9:17

is verna has a straight brown hair was

9:19

all his famous the boss jennifer

9:21

lawrence channing tatum ashton kutcher that

9:24

i knew about as a witcher three as holy

9:26

shit

9:26

more about like who told everyone

9:28

what was cool back that it of like mtv in the mall

9:31

and we get a fifteen minutes of people

9:33

explaining what a mile and a half

9:38

life or of we hire this

9:41

year of our spoken word i people

9:43

don't know what

9:44

i know how did we get like imagine

9:47

why a or something that you can

9:49

walk or walk you know in the online

9:52

catalog that's an actual place

9:59

so are you know the thing

10:02

is i'm not going to talk about your asset

10:04

anymore because i know you hated every

10:06

hey this but the mall it's just like

10:08

by digits digits your queens it's

10:10

them the more money it's also

10:13

a flaming what it is i don't

10:15

know where suffer that we when we were in orlando

10:17

during a so it would we went to like an old

10:19

more complex with his comedy club was

10:21

it was there was not everything was centered one

10:24

of them are you know how people i go to a bad in

10:26

hospitals and take photos and

10:27

i'm all and i

10:30

know it's true

10:30

walking through like oh this used to be the food

10:33

court order listen closely adam

10:35

madonna will fry the hallway that

10:37

has her sister was cancelled or i have no

10:40

me much it was nice little trip

10:42

down memory lane to see over give functioning

10:44

off i loved the my brother got obama

10:47

when , growing up mother's i'm in a month or

10:49

a fourth a real might not

10:52

a real at all

10:54

like yeah there was is that

10:56

you know roosevelt field and there are some places in queens

10:58

like they terrorists

10:59

up as i really like a suffix

11:03

you have to go outside

11:06

to get to the next door you'd have them all of a survey

11:08

terraces out that we

11:11

, to the mall mall

11:13

unable to see very very specific about

11:15

what you're shopping you're a hypothesis

11:18

your a of you who got off

11:20

madison one or more that prefer let

11:23

her go to abercrombie and six is one of their pressing

11:25

stores could focus on the things

11:28

they wanted so like you could be the preppy store

11:30

like abercrombie and fitch which is what they decided

11:32

to make

11:32

right and then we meet mo the journalists

11:35

i love her so she's explaining

11:37

that abercrombie took

11:39

everything see hated about high school

11:41

the initial ice a small

11:44

we what are your eyes she goes oh my god

11:46

they bottle they thought oh this is the

11:49

word

11:49

realize his successor science as as

11:51

the as the worst part of everyone's high school

11:53

experience of and monetized it and put

11:55

it

11:55

the or what does thing about abercrombie was that

11:57

they had the hot models out for member that would

11:59

terrifying also like a lot of

12:02

them were like not a team

12:03

like a lot of people going into the store were

12:06

not eighteen and like twenty year old bus

12:08

guys like it's like a bot let you out

12:10

absolutely and i gonna

12:12

say like out all the guys we see in

12:14

this argument that we're doing it are very confidence

12:16

because my mom growing up were like felt

12:18

weird about being out there were their shirts off so you

12:20

have this so let's let's say sounded real

12:22

herself

12:23

the guys outside shirtless yeah sometimes

12:25

they were a santa hat and

12:26

we were in which is very hot i'm

12:28

just gonna say i was it was christmas holiday

12:31

season i say the holiday season

12:34

when his sunset tonight i think sunset it's like seven

12:36

thirty we're getting closer

12:37

right or am i gonna

12:39

try dirty looks sorta

12:41

thing about the door

12:44

in the mall with that

12:45

when an event of an abercrombie did my

12:47

brilliantly was another round

12:49

shutters over the windows and

12:51

a big image and the front door way of

12:53

the entry so you really couldn't see what

12:55

was an astronomer she went into the story

12:58

no other more interesting i mean they forced

13:00

you to come over the thoughtful

13:01

you couldn't see what was in the store unless you went

13:03

and it was kind of a big

13:06

deal at the time because you that automatic we

13:08

have every other store it's true what together

13:10

there you have to walk through the gauntlet of shirtless do

13:12

sometimes there's a line sometimes

13:14

there's not there's like allies in my

13:17

thirties when i when i was also

13:19

cause you're not that long ago that

13:21

hollister at abercrombie and says avenue

13:23

there was a line to get emphysema

13:25

one seven he like an early in the

13:27

morning to be the first people in there the time during

13:29

the day you'd what will i swear to god

13:31

and maybe they did maybe they like decrease

13:33

the capacity on purpose of make their be alive

13:36

so you that point the music would be

13:38

blasted parents hated at the lights

13:41

were really dark they couldn't see anything the

13:43

and patrick hated that matter is never once

13:45

walked into a store that was like a nightclub

13:47

that he enjoyed that you saw it on

13:49

the table the price and conveniently those zulay

13:52

probably see what i worry london and we were told

13:54

that they're going to be a dj at the restaurant were having

13:56

dinner we immediately capitalists we're effect

13:58

that what i'm not going to be the capitalists that

14:01

i happen to us once but we did know what we were like halfway

14:03

through dinner and all the cellphones or when

14:06

i heard a scream at dinner

14:08

and we just sat there in silence have surfaced

14:11

and i'm a happy

14:13

we could cover any

14:15

, way the guy is a wise it's so loud

14:18

i know i contribute a lot of loudness

14:20

to the world is going to say would consider

14:22

the summer split up all the largest i can handle

14:25

you know to me and it's show and was like syria

14:27

allowed live so you're allowed in the world

14:30

right now i'd rudely lot now

14:32

the way

14:33

mckee masculine

14:36

and we have to hear about front i know how to say

14:38

like when i was the can i wanted to like that said

14:40

you wanted to where the abercrombie columbus i thought

14:42

it was a was certainly not a mustache it was you're

14:44

asking me they try to say the must have i'm

14:47

i don't get a little there because the two

14:49

that are here are adorable they are adorable that

14:51

one of them as like we got a lot of freak

14:53

there there

14:55

was that i actually would seem please

14:57

walk around and spray things with

14:59

this said i get migraines

15:01

easily so it was actually like hard

15:04

for me by going into mouths i've never had it

15:06

but for teenagers it was probably find anybody

15:08

over the age of seventeen walking into an abercrombie

15:11

would get a headache or they have to leave after two minutes

15:13

let me tell you i'm sure there were fighting

15:15

that they had a headache big one like this is a good way to be

15:17

i have selected as right i'm that israel bowl

15:19

of ice he says

15:20

now like i know

15:22

they wanna be employed job with the as what you are

15:24

annoying

15:25

why do you

15:27

do it sensibly be rude said you

15:29

are a sign of as a zara now

15:31

that you sit down and i learned that the documentary

15:34

that know that was exactly how they work totally

15:36

aloof and

15:37

you try to find them they would walk

15:39

away from my own irritating like through

15:42

time

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15:54

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17:15

compliment you on the south

17:19

talk about my jeffries

17:21

the former ceo oh god this is all by

17:23

his design very choreographed by my jeffery

17:25

they let us know right from the top he was not

17:27

interested in city deaf professors of assess

17:29

assess assess as he is a nightmare i know

17:32

steve the worst season either attached to a nightmare

17:34

less wexner yeah just will okay

17:36

so we learn about this guy what's

17:38

westerners networks are and

17:40

let me tell you he plays a major role

17:42

and that victoria secret documents i love

17:44

way because that entire documentary is basically

17:47

about less wexner and what a piece of garbage he has and

17:49

the whole jeffrey epstein

17:50

yeah yeah yeah yeah now that's just

17:52

so this guy less lesnar by the way his whole

17:54

company was built out of columbus ohio see

17:56

what obsessed by what we learned

17:59

that this guy

17:59

last plumlee a second there is

18:02

one of the great be held master minds of

18:04

america he is

18:06

in behind a lot more

18:08

that we have in

18:10

well known as

18:12

the merlin at the mall actually this

18:15

guy owns the limited express

18:17

victoria's secret about about it more

18:18

of them are like

18:21

he's like a wizard he's wizard

18:22

you know like

18:24

the all powerful eyes only when you p find the curtain

18:26

mother fuckin molester the your layout

18:29

a mall wizard good for you wexler

18:31

of he says any fronted up soon as ross

18:33

lyon my jeffries is also to put this is where

18:36

we they keep also in charge of the abercrombie

18:38

brand and abercrombie have been around for a hundred

18:40

forty years yeah did not notice at all

18:42

as part of the day was like an outdoorsman

18:45

john morrissey brand for men macgyver

18:48

teddy roosevelt and fucking hemingway i

18:50

describe it as a masculine juri i'm

18:53

ira talk , the mail days

18:55

you know superior my life where i feel

18:57

like he be white would have described me that way

18:59

more matthews's as so

19:01

mask elite sportsman like

19:04

shaving cream and blankets i set blankets i

19:06

you forgot that swim my wifi

19:09

teddy roosevelt like on a donkey or

19:11

whatever

19:12

moose all over the other words and

19:14

like all our the branding like they try to keep

19:16

that together so like to soar sell

19:18

on hard times less wexler it's look less

19:21

like there's some offended by that applies

19:23

to reveal i give it a second life but he tried

19:26

to keep like a sportsman store and it's not working

19:28

and after he brings in make jeffrey

19:30

failed ceo we learn other

19:32

sailed women's apparel company

19:35

out how to jeffries

19:37

my jeffries comes up with this formula

19:39

and it just happened

19:40

the work yeah what jeffries really wanted

19:42

to be was like the coolest brand for the eighteen to

19:44

twenty two year old stuff what everybody wants their brain

19:46

to be a hospital or for this guy he's the privilege

19:48

but make it sexy yeah it's supposed to be

19:51

that like high quality sportsmen

19:53

stuff just but way sexier and someone

19:55

says something or i'm like holy shit she

19:57

says person is an industry that is

19:59

quiet for not particularly doing a lot of

20:02

market research the goal is not to

20:04

give people what they're asking for but to make

20:06

them up for what your

20:07

frame they'll give people what they want

20:10

people are an offer like

20:12

never heard of put that way but that's exactly right

20:14

it's so true and we also learn that this guy

20:17

mike jeffries himself goes from wearing

20:19

like loafers him khakis to button

20:21

down jeans and sandals and i

20:23

said why did we ever were button down

20:25

gm putting didn't you ever been down g absolutely

20:28

not i love the never

20:31

fall for any of the

20:32

why are so here's a weird a d h d

20:34

saying we put things off because everything

20:36

feels like a mountain of the amount of times i'm like

20:38

i have to pee and i have to be mass

20:40

because i you there's no real measure city

20:43

the issue the issue are diverted your

20:45

the idea of i don't drink enough water at

20:47

all have a headache it i'm dying of thirst you know

20:49

i like sides i am i said you have impeded

20:52

like ten out normally policing me but he's like i'm

20:54

worried about your kids i'd also like

20:56

are you okay and then i'll be like to go now so

20:58

my whole life has been like iowa

21:00

parts of the buttons like oh

21:01

the group of out of the butler yeats

21:04

the i'm just gonna play that game was

21:07

gallery about damn time

21:09

because i know i'm just like as if he know

21:11

i doubt and then it's eight o'clock at night not like off

21:13

right now

21:14

that leaves are like not sexy it's

21:16

a terrible luck active with anyone ever did

21:18

you don't have an open was as if you miss a button

21:20

i

21:23

love this calculation that we see a

21:25

leaders and plus sexy equals exclusivity

21:28

sad because exclusivity was what they wanted

21:30

they wanted you to feel like it was the cool

21:32

thing you need to be a part of a neat they're saying

21:35

like for a be seen this

21:37

is only

21:44

hum i have

21:47

a from if this was a little more affordable shots

21:50

affordable a soon enough fat

21:52

not so extensive that it was

21:54

out of reach it was still moderately

21:56

priced still like whereas other

21:58

brands that were fancy and like it was

22:00

an exclusive club like calvin klein

22:03

or said it was like too expensive to buy any

22:05

way but abercrombie and fitch was chef

22:07

on the edge of affordable so like nerds

22:09

like me you could like by the clothes and

22:11

it would like make you feel like you were hot and cool

22:13

kid but it didn't it doesn't work america

22:16

way to remember ,

22:18

being like forty bucks for for

22:20

sure audible isn't really

22:22

like audible isn't save my money for the summer

22:25

and then good abercrombie by for that

22:27

i got an abercrombie sweater that i

22:29

were like every day my junior year of high school

22:31

alias or physical zippy

22:33

zippy obsessed like either of us

22:35

have said auto auto out probably

22:38

would probably lead to erase this from their history they

22:40

were a big pioneer of the cargo shorts you begin

22:42

to our ass cargo shorts at abercrombie that's

22:44

how do they were sexy and that's all we know they're

22:46

still sexy

22:47

that's him genes i'll say it i had some a garbage

22:49

and

22:50

when i when you

22:52

look really ashamed of yourself i

22:54

feel as as a family what i know now

22:56

ya ya ya ya ya

22:57

aretha shirt

22:59

i know will get to those

23:00

though in nineteen eighty six abercrombie goes public

23:03

them your hands of money to that abercrombie abercrombie

23:05

kids hollister hollister was like the california

23:07

beach vibe version

23:08

abercrombie as yeah i wrote everything's coming

23:10

up abercrombie asked for now

23:12

super now i that wage jobs racist

23:15

pieces the trash yeah so their office was

23:17

called this made me crazy the whole idea

23:19

was that work with life

23:21

and my sister in every city with pulling

23:23

all nighters citizens of place in a you hang

23:25

out with your friend

23:28

my comment thirty

23:32

he like they called it first

23:35

grade and

23:36

but i don't

23:38

like that why don't you like everyone

23:40

was pulling all nighters is of the king it was your

23:42

friend morning and hooking up jackie me

23:44

to separate your work from your social there's

23:46

something about abercrombie be me acts in

23:48

part of retail store thirty three

23:51

honestly a lot of role i had i'm

23:53

sorry i would have loved it so much

23:56

santa , allow was really

23:59

like not a good idea know about the

24:01

marketing salvage the court the

24:03

magazine which is really just a bunch of naked pictures

24:05

of men the quarterly magazine not

24:08

only is it like naked pictures of

24:10

men it's naked pictures of men doing

24:12

based off with each other like twenty one years

24:14

old yeah they're like in wrestling poses

24:16

which are all very gay

24:18

enter wrestling underwater

24:21

no one holding each other or they're like

24:23

so like saying i saw the i'm tackling

24:26

each time like all in their underpants a book

24:28

catalogues worth it gay porn

24:30

right and then you turn the page it it would be like by

24:32

these cargo that's for thousand dollar on

24:35

the other part of that was

24:37

wearing any clothes every time we meet

24:39

this guy service he was a former editor

24:41

in chief of the quarterly magazine

24:43

and he's like oh this sub i knew i was gay my

24:45

proves to me that i was gay because he was like oh my god

24:47

the boys

24:48

no me i'm selling i've been saying this week it's

24:50

a grind se but in cool in one sense

24:52

enzymes will be as on the record with entertainment

24:54

weekly thing like yes i know my ass and that's the

24:56

major yes like this guy sabbath had the

24:58

had the ryan phillippe the but experience and

25:00

he had to edit the magazine

25:04

this i black and white kind of

25:06

sepia tone right it like

25:08

magic our twilight zone said

25:10

wrestling was

25:11

that it a bruce weber bruce weber

25:13

specifies neighbor's dog or for or

25:15

even famous and he was

25:18

doing calvin klein he was doing everyone

25:20

a minute a beautiful book called air pond

25:22

first fuckin weber over high heat

25:24

rash creepy creepy fucking

25:27

south

25:27

photographer on also

25:30

a total creep with at least fifteen male models

25:32

accusing him of sexual assault senate

25:34

did he was created it was like for abercrombie

25:36

was a joyful groups as everyone gun

25:38

or be with wide golden retrievers as far

25:40

as the i can say no all sorts

25:43

the countryside they were also see like damn

25:45

hot farm boys bobby

25:47

blank see who a model

25:50

feels , obama solicit and wearable yeah

25:52

like i'm a i'm a i'm a

25:55

fan of like fan of exactly who that is james

25:57

walker he was just the he was a he

25:59

was

25:59

mine

26:00

on the bad guy was about like that was

26:02

the valuable everybody got for a decade

26:05

saved when you walked into the store i mean he

26:07

was ever where it's like cindy crawford

26:09

level supermodel deal with yeah

26:11

that bad was printed eight billion

26:13

in the time and he's like yeah so i was like don't

26:15

you know i'm here from minnesota are hobbling

26:18

game that he's like he's adorable

26:20

he's still very cute and then we mean ryan

26:22

who exactly what they

26:24

were looking for from nebraska captain

26:26

of every single team the homecoming

26:29

king he was like to be fair this was not a

26:31

dream of mine i was hammered at a bar and

26:33

some lady asked me if i wanted to do this and three weeks

26:35

later i was where i saw the awesome

26:37

for the first i was disappointed

26:41

when the suit sound horrible yeah because even

26:43

though was super gay and that should mean it's fun whatever

26:46

like how your childhood was day when you're right yeah

26:48

no parties and

26:49

the masculinity a dot cause all the

26:51

guys were trying to get that creepy photographers

26:53

attention right so they be like

26:55

right now my football

26:58

, whatever they resist the guy with his

27:00

friends say hey bruce bruce

27:03

is ill or like

27:06

doom for substandard from says the guys

27:08

are testosterone into someone's reputation

27:11

among the guys are trying to impress the women's

27:13

phillies play defense humanity at humanity basic

27:16

level and have to look cyril

27:19

and they say they're like cyril was just about like

27:21

hot guys like impressing women but

27:23

also the getting groped by but photographer on

27:25

getting side

27:26

because they know that abercrombie was

27:28

really like a gigantic saying and

27:30

there's just one of their picture to be in the quarterly that's

27:33

really all it was speaking of let's talk

27:35

about the what makes someone attacked

27:37

of him

27:37

oh my god actual

27:40

look books at abercrombie eulogy daves

27:42

to their managers though they hire this

27:44

person and not this person and all that check

27:46

marks of who you hire they're all white people

27:48

the beginning of abercrombie saying

27:50

all the city stuff out loud japan my

27:52

dad six months

28:00

irene to the customer that of the word they

28:02

used so you know i mean we combed

28:04

attractive natural classic hairstyle

28:06

is acceptable white guy blonde blue

28:08

eyed just right next to him as a black

28:11

man hot that is beautiful black man

28:13

what is great smile long dreadlocked

28:15

are people in the store or an inspiration

28:18

to the customer a neat little

28:20

homes attractive natural

28:23

plastic hairstyle is acceptable

28:26

the last are unacceptable for

28:28

men and women

28:30

on a name or not accessible for men

28:33

women me where a sin towards

28:36

delicate

28:36

over nothing on bush

28:39

and affected you imagine the on twenty

28:41

twenty two writing that down on a piece of paper

28:43

and all of the things that you're right that are

28:45

facts are like sin white

28:48

just plain looking can

28:51

you see how not that i would have wanted to

28:53

but i would have had no chance of working at this establish

28:56

what now here's the kicker

28:58

brand representatives are required

29:00

to wear appropriate undergarments

29:02

at all time it exists

29:03

i did they are dictating

29:05

the fucking underpants the people are wary

29:08

be underpinned so it's natural

29:10

amir

29:10

again classic the ins look

29:12

and there's like a skinny white blonde woman exactly

29:15

and that he got i'm not kidding watch it will put the screenshots

29:17

and job so it might jeffries the

29:19

guy who like came in and started this formula

29:21

was a total micromanage

29:23

yeah and he would show up at the stores

29:25

unannounced it if you've ever had a fucking job

29:27

you know what a nightmare that they call them blitzes

29:30

just as a success

29:32

so say a visit was on friday

29:34

monday tuesday wednesday thursday

29:37

you are doing all nights this

29:39

is where we gotta make sure like everything

29:41

a spic and span like everything gets wiped down

29:44

there's like notice any aware sub

29:46

moosehead looks clean

29:48

the thing that matter most

29:49

the i was who's working there are some

29:52

people they that you kept on sale just for visits

29:54

and then it's you put the people on

29:56

shift on friday that you only keep

29:58

the rounds cause hot ready literally

30:01

say there are people you only keep on the schedule

30:03

for these visits to their the best looking what

30:05

what know their to quote best looking one

30:07

my jeffries thinks about that's what i meet

30:09

our yeah yeah so we'll get into his micromanaging

30:12

and a minute do we have to talk about how happy they were

30:14

about that supersonic i'm a girl by oliver remember

30:18

alike , they have a ground and

30:20

face can we talk about

30:22

just how stupid that song oh

30:24

damn but they're like everyone is like

30:26

that's when we knew we made only mean it's like it's

30:29

marketing

30:29

couldn't possibly by you know

30:31

i mean it's like

30:32

it also like we'll sell for that saw

30:34

i was outside you know the

30:36

not offer assistance or

30:39

, said we'd like

30:43

the look of utter disappointment when would

30:45

you thought that i'd thought that you fell for that song

30:48

so you know me and asked how

30:50

long the soon and american idol we did

30:52

it was american best did see

30:54

that song you know one thing about my jeffrey

30:56

just that that was the coolest thing to ever the one hundred

30:58

natalia let's

31:03

talk to fill you feel you runs

31:06

the angry asian man blah you've also

31:08

like so good looking i just like while

31:10

we're here i may as well you know meme know

31:13

if you're to tell us about the issue of the graphic

31:15

tees

31:16

so i remember that as i

31:18

like i knew of abercrombie and maybe

31:20

i kind of remember this put this is

31:22

bananas

31:23

murray they didn't hire outside copywriters

31:26

why needed really fast turnaround to make these really

31:28

cheap sorts and sell them that like just

31:30

that expensive price

31:31

yeah can i just say i love that this guy

31:33

fill up the angry age i'm a blogger cia

31:35

like so i first in our eyes on the our

31:37

how it was receiving a catalogue out of the blue

31:40

and i remember seeing these young people smiling

31:43

and frolicking and like where i'm a college

31:45

like maybe maybe i'm going to hang

31:47

out with my friends in a field like armed

31:49

armed like this said and jump around

31:51

and around getting a dog pile of the like

31:53

like biskupic catholics that are know when

31:55

i'm in college all go getting

31:58

a dog pile in a field like my son

31:59

i'm not a fire

32:03

if exactly what you would see it every

32:05

channel it had the sun setting there's a late

32:08

all i do tall grass it's all

32:10

boys that they're all just for their underpants and they're lying

32:12

on top of said are wearing you know item

32:14

of clothing that think so ottawa of of

32:16

of avoids open

32:18

half of his i'm gay porn that

32:20

it is so some of these super

32:22

race asserts include there's one like with a

32:24

traditional indigenous headdress job and

32:26

it's tam

32:27

the wanna so it's spelled out like it's supposed

32:29

to be like a tribal name

32:30

the fight hard to say out loud as

32:33

shit is yeah when amateurs

32:34

the budget pp that's his camp you wanna

32:37

me so you're not only being racist but you're also

32:39

making i guess like an accent again the way

32:41

it's written yup but films here to tell

32:43

us about the like specifically asian racism

32:46

like of the buddha bass get outta

32:48

on the floor and like one

32:50

more for the road with a donkey

32:52

wearing a sombrero holding a taco my name

32:54

is it it seems if you're in a writers were i go

32:57

on a sketch comedy so they'd be like that's two races

32:59

and also to on the no one's gonna do that

33:01

it's ridiculous

33:02

why not changed so much you feel like i'm the last three

33:04

years the fact that they weren't blurring it in

33:06

the documentary when we're one another one

33:08

to me and here is the one that sells like

33:10

okay

33:11

yeah yeah yeah the one their remember

33:14

long brothers advertising a

33:16

fictional laundry service modern

33:20

the said the caricature of the buck to them

33:22

slant eyed cases so the

33:25

slogan was too long as can make it whites

33:27

to lungs can make it

33:29

white

33:30

it's on we all

33:31

the even saying that

33:32

right now i know you like ucla i

33:35

see it's insane and themselves

33:37

like this like pop culture's been

33:39

doing this to asian people forever like mickey

33:41

rooney it acts as acts seventies and long that song

33:43

and sixteen candles sixteen candles to sixteen settled is

33:45

a fucking terrible movie

33:47

other than to fill up says is that legs

33:49

as is americans were taught by our parents

33:51

to just keep our heads up flying many of us

33:54

are first generation we just don't make trouble

33:56

but he's like fuck that this was the six to get

33:58

mad about he's like wasn't even

33:59

one a single person asking

34:02

if this is a good idea when i one person questioning

34:04

it like this is what happens when you have a rueful white people

34:06

somebody like the one of the producers says

34:08

to him like what we were told that there was actually

34:11

to asian people on this crew and

34:13

he's like their cover is that is is the one a's

34:15

and guy in the room rise is the one guys like out

34:18

your mind offensive and like is that guy really

34:20

going to be like yet or he's gonna flip over the

34:22

table be like ice and i think this is

34:24

really fun system identity like in that environment

34:26

in this corporate stuff environment where everyone

34:28

around you is white you're like i

34:31

don't know that's really a safe place to do that right

34:33

he's like i can't imagine you made it easy

34:35

for them to feel

34:35

the line a bunch of rich white people

34:38

say you know what i mean like we want our job

34:40

we're wouldn't for the coolest brand in the world but there's

34:42

no way in which there's no way

34:44

spent yet they're there to provide the

34:46

cover for abercrombie to be like know this isn't

34:48

racist the asians are fine with

34:50

i'm sure it wasn't like hey let's have a conversation

34:52

about this and and really put something other that makes you

34:54

comfortable it's like okay with this right you're not going to

34:56

cause a scene

34:56

right then we also learned that when there's backlash

34:59

literally abercrombie whose only knows

35:01

how to do the prc wrong they put out

35:03

a personally seen like oh god we thought

35:06

the easy one

35:08

appearing that we see about that it's t

35:10

to say with the old oh my god and drives

35:12

ya got older now this also save

35:15

i've you know i love her would see

35:17

even on like thirty rock what she was the right

35:19

to walk the line and this is over the

35:21

line

35:22

that it's not as offensive it's lazy

35:24

like i know that it being offensive makes it a thousand

35:26

and that's where i got lazy jobs like

35:29

uses a stupid do better yeah like you're gonna be

35:31

like i don't feel like writing a good job i'll just like a race

35:33

is on i'll i'll do like the easiest

35:35

punching down like it's so stupid

35:37

but still a saying like this is why we didn't say

35:39

anything of kind of everywhere

35:40

that we were used as a punchline exactly and

35:43

that's got to that earlier who sat on service

35:45

is all upset because he just knew

35:47

something was about to change the culture what he saw

35:50

this the tobey maguire spiderman movie as

35:52

you know economists said peter parker's biggest

35:54

boy his last nonsense and he's

35:57

recently been a big blind my asshole

35:59

and in a movie he is just headstone abercrombie

36:02

the entire time and it really upset me it was

36:04

really really upsetting

36:05

they got blockade i just knew wasn't good

36:08

listener and mean like because something has shifted

36:10

the bully was stress head to toe in africa

36:12

yeah you know really bummed to now is

36:14

like i summer girls by alice always are ah

36:18

ra thought i saw the wire

36:20

spiderman he looked really hard

36:22

you know he out as gay awakening i guess

36:24

also maybe it wasn't thinking i

36:26

wasn't thinking straight but i'm bomb but he just wanted [unk]

36:28

i'm

36:30

the great were didn't nothing it's all it's all

36:32

sake effects know ella so

36:35

that stupid son doesn't mean you've made it like

36:37

napoleon a spiderman movie doesn't like

36:39

nothing

36:39

i'm not be no real to the a that

36:41

going crazy thirty three hundred

36:43

honest about this

36:49

i don't

36:51

understand

36:52

i i'm sorry but as

36:53

the abercrombie and fitch on it for why

36:55

well but also the good cargo shorts

36:58

of assess assess assess i guess i

37:00

can i know salaries

37:02

and they mean seems cargo sorts of all the

37:04

for one good thing they did jillian right

37:11

i simply say the fact video

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shows that according to crimes out of the average

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it you know was broken in had been there for

38:45

a similar sense of habit i can't even believe

38:47

that it's like have a twice that

38:49

absence of

38:55

so we jumped two thousand and three reporter

38:57

mo is back and she tells us about

38:59

this encounter that she has with a manager at an

39:01

american eagle store and like american eagle

39:03

is like abercrombie lights right yeah

39:05

it's like the old navy to banana republic

39:08

are making a banana republic

39:10

by the same company with a cellphone say yes

39:12

than a minute yeah i did feel it's just like

39:14

anyway so mo and other reporter walk

39:17

into an american ego and they're just talking to

39:19

this manager and the manager burst into

39:21

tears tissues

39:22

oh happy here i get to say

39:24

years away once she gestures

39:27

to the guy who's leading women

39:29

the dressing room

39:37

it was happy that he liked gave

39:39

a good interview and was enthusiastic and she

39:41

could hire him whereas you couldn't hire

39:44

a black person at abercrombie right

39:46

i'm for no reason why are allowed to sell correlates

39:48

to work at abercrombie she's a black woman and because

39:50

this matters abercrombie and fitch she's beautiful

39:53

at that we wouldn't mention it i mean like that matters

39:55

abercrombie right so this is going to prove their racism

39:57

even more exactly so she says like

39:59

hot of hours as you'd always asking for

40:02

more hours she wanted basis as he was

40:04

always told know like we're all filled up i'm

40:06

so sorry they only gave her night shifts

40:08

which he says was basically just cleaning jobs

40:10

and when she asked about it they say carla

40:13

you're just like or that's the window washer

40:15

you know about this issue process

40:17

as i know this is what i'm talking about no irony

40:20

they think it's accomplish they say what the

40:22

thing they think is a compliment later

40:23

now on believe i know i know i

40:25

know i now

40:26

he got your friend and her friends like person

40:28

who works at abercrombie she's like carlos

40:31

it's because you're black like look around

40:34

and it never occurs to carla

40:36

i because she was like

40:37

they wanted like it hurt like i know it's true

40:39

but it really hurt to be faced with that

40:41

in that kind of way

40:42

then after she had made the kerfuffle about

40:44

wanting a basis to sniff the wants the fucking windows

40:46

are just putting her on the schedule they fired a book

40:48

with a difference i remember asking him

40:51

at do it was it i do do as to work

40:53

here at home in on the schedule in two months

40:55

and even know you do justice to

40:57

calling

40:59

i knew i'd been fired and i just moved

41:01

on i mean there wasn't a resignation

41:03

there wasn't any one that called me i

41:06

it was over managers they got you totally

41:08

work here will call you as soon as the anything and another

41:10

never hello again and they did the same thing to jennifer

41:12

who's isn't just and it's the same

41:14

thing she's like i worked at a store close to use

41:17

the irvine which had like a seventy five per cent asian

41:19

population suggest like her sword did

41:21

have a couple of people of color

41:22

working there but they all the phone of suspects

41:25

let's see what what look at this know

41:27

they sent to the employees greetings

41:31

not , a paycheck you have been like a merry

41:33

christmas christmas

41:35

has this is that true

41:38

said a of of of of when

41:41

you're not gonna die my youngest

41:43

one sentence merry

41:45

christmas christmas is haunting

41:48

that is

41:51

a bio

41:53

the yahoo has a com a simple way to santa

41:56

oh my god lump of coal for us

41:58

a hard thing

41:59

so big and we hear so much of this

42:02

is like and i was really mad about this

42:04

i was like twenty one years old at what could you even

42:06

do

42:06

well a bunch of people of color who were

42:08

fired got together nine of them

42:11

in fact they file a lawsuit

42:12

got i was so happy to hear about

42:14

the lawsuit and to meet thompson's the attorney

42:17

speeds like all of these helpless people

42:19

that are being blatantly discriminated against each one

42:21

of them after that acts as well there's nothing to

42:23

do about it one other moms was like what what what

42:25

were you expecting i do that with him happens you

42:27

so the lawsuit brought against

42:29

abercrombie and fitch and this is the ultimate

42:32

oh my god i can't believe you're saying this out

42:33

yeah to hide talk to us

42:35

about what abercrombie was saying it

42:38

wasn't that we were being racially discriminated

42:40

against it with that

42:42

we were good looking enough to work on for

42:44

we just the badly assists

42:47

racism it's an

42:49

ass

42:52

the important thing because you're

42:54

what you're saying is you don't said black

42:56

people are easy people who anyone else just

42:58

as pretty as a viper

42:59

exactly you only think why people are pretty

43:02

that is races and it's a good look again this

43:04

is so dumb but it matters abercrombie if you

43:06

book a car was put under any one

43:08

of those white people she's way hotter right way

43:10

hotter yeah

43:13

but that same it's not doing what they thought it was doing

43:15

it but doubled down on the that is what i'm

43:17

saying would be only know how to do the wrong pr

43:19

move and they only does not talking a certain

43:22

are like

43:23

what you could have said was nothing there

43:25

like know it's not that it's not that you're not

43:27

white you're just you're not wait and you're not

43:29

you never yet they could have looked inside

43:31

and been like oh my god you're right let us

43:33

six the systemic problem even

43:35

there were doing in the most cynical way a whole lot

43:37

of they were doing it for the sake of the still

43:39

be like visit their dot their was doing that

43:41

right sir not even doing it to set em all up

43:43

say nothing sometime in the minorities

43:46

you thought they'd love the races so you're saying it all

43:48

out loud it's it's all about how loud

43:50

at with a smile it's amazing so

43:52

happy added a lawsuit with a settlement and they

43:54

admitted no guilt yeah but they didn't because of

43:56

fifty million fucking dollars on good because

43:58

of fifty million dollars if they enter into

44:00

a consent decrees would mean that they

44:03

like agree to chase it recruiting

44:05

they're hiring and their marketing practices

44:07

and the it's like a six year deal that they

44:09

agree to do the since there are benchmarks

44:11

they have to hit but there's no penalties if they don't

44:14

right so what they end up doing is

44:16

a whole lotta nothing but one thing they do do

44:18

they transition of the cheese diversity officers

44:20

are they hire a black guy and his name is todd

44:22

and he's a vice president of diverse and so

44:25

here right

44:26

no and i that complicated feelings about i

44:29

agree what you're saying is that i begin to figure

44:31

what it was really about what is going to figure out how to

44:33

prevent or brand from the perspective of the

44:35

in i was at the time was

44:38

on a function that was on office there

44:40

was not a discipline is no muscle side

44:42

of the ahead of it all together as and well

44:44

in the brain a god he the same the

44:47

use of and v i guess it's only working

44:49

now this is probably what would i even

44:51

doing this company but then he realizes that it's like

44:53

legitimately the challenge he's been praying

44:55

for so he said saw

44:57

but you know he's so guarded

44:59

in this interview about what he wants to say

45:01

because i don't know if it's illegal thing or he

45:03

wants to protect his legacy it's because he

45:05

did spend a lot of his life at this

45:08

company doing good works it's it's complicated

45:10

because he refuses to share his feelings

45:12

your yeah but other people of color

45:14

art not following a whole life

45:17

she was a former

45:19

manager at the diversity inclusion yeah

45:22

she gets to go to the meeting say go into

45:24

the meetings where they are literally like a searing

45:26

me that white suit like the managers who just said

45:28

says interviews are going through the look

45:30

pocket talking about people's noses

45:32

like dissecting down and

45:34

she goes will it all they did was change

45:36

the wording the brand reps are no longer they

45:39

were either impact announcements

45:41

that you went to the back

45:42

or model and

45:44

that meant he can be upfront

45:46

i'm like the idea was that

45:48

calling their minimum wage

45:51

retail employees models the know abercrombie

45:53

cleared and get away with anything

45:55

that a modeling

45:56

he i get away with you'd

45:58

be a model i'd be impact

45:59

now undergoing

46:02

an easy among

46:04

they say they say well my or a we

46:06

got all that is a yeah yeah yeah they say by calling

46:08

them models they could close get away with

46:10

things that modeling agencies get away west and i'm

46:12

like oh well that's settled a modeling agency

46:15

his nap on and forgot what are what

46:17

is

46:17

i gotta tell you and i don't want to do real this

46:20

you must my favorite show of the early

46:22

two thousand was the janice dickinson

46:24

modeling agency my and universe

46:28

, supposed to the amazed at the now

46:31

maybe i made idealistic i made mali it

46:33

is the i was the ship

46:36

hms sick of them got away with was

46:38

like oh my god we we know our

46:40

dance moms yet , as a like

46:42

lived my life about about

46:45

i the willing tax

46:48

evasion here

46:50

we go again with my biggest fear steve i can't

46:52

go to prison but i think she was like really trying

46:54

to dodge nami it wasn't like a paper route

46:56

me doubleday my taxes i do

46:59

i but if the estimates i was asking

47:01

for money goes into retweeted the government

47:03

to look up terrible her eyes please

47:05

send us both of the same woman has woman amazing maybe

47:09

i'll get a little bit like i

47:11

guess a war i tell me what i

47:13

oh and i'd happily pay

47:14

you and i could sense the same women's prison can we

47:16

be sally

47:17

it would love that i don't think they would allow it

47:19

know that i would make the best reason why

47:20

you just be on your best behavior and them will try to

47:22

get like the best person

47:23

oh yeah you you are you from getting

47:26

out of line in prison not be you have no

47:28

sign of life and i live in fear

47:30

of getting yelled that i live in fear of getting in trouble

47:32

i do everything right i buy follow

47:35

every rule on one side of nope we gotta move

47:38

that's something horrible because i'm numbers weber the

47:40

thing about bruce weber can i wrote oh

47:42

a great and now we get to learn about all the sexual misconduct

47:45

and like bruce weber like these models

47:47

are here to tell us about how they were all sexually

47:49

assaulted by him if he are you invite you

47:51

over and it's as good as bad as the

47:54

word

47:56

put your hand on your says and

47:58

he prefers and under

47:59

then can i don't into relax

48:02

and then it was i'm in a lower

48:05

your hand me

48:07

when did that you stop me when

48:09

you when you're not comfortable or whatever guess

48:11

legs never won the touching everything

48:14

is a violation and

48:15

that is a weird creepy way to start

48:17

and and it's it's also a power dynamic

48:20

what has we learned that like other guys are voters

48:22

who to get invited to dinner with him as an

48:24

enabler seriously be gone the next states

48:26

the implication meaning that legs he tried to

48:28

have sex with them and they said no and so he sent

48:30

them home

48:31

have you said no to him you were instantly fired

48:33

but on the spot

48:34

the guy with the bad guy tells a story

48:36

about how bruce causes wasn't a dinner and he says

48:39

no and two minutes later he gets a call from some

48:41

the us you're on the next place where you been every

48:43

other models like when he did the hand of saying yes i

48:46

don't move your hand i don't address is like that's hilarious

48:48

i going to move ahead down and the model was like nothing else

48:50

about doing know it's like you're not moving your hand

48:52

down my body right now we are

48:54

learn about this my jeffries that like

48:56

we get a backstory a little bit married

48:59

he's got a kid he's gay we use their

49:01

to a woman yes and the exploits of they have

49:03

a teacher i guess that means his reason with them he was

49:05

super super closeted said

49:07

he also had a bunch of was really bad

49:09

plastic surgery

49:10

well then matthew smith guy comes

49:12

into the picture becomes like his life partner business

49:14

partner job but this is what we learn like my jeffries

49:16

is not well because he was obsessed

49:19

with like his idea of beauty had any

49:21

how old is really bad plastic surgery and i'm like

49:23

you're a zillionaire get it done right good

49:26

get the carol brady plastic surgery you

49:28

have the money yeah have you want

49:31

to get out of plastic surgery but i guess like to

49:33

a point you're just gonna look ridiculous i

49:35

gotta say there are no bow legged mrs brady

49:37

bunch of florence henderson away

49:40

looks like mrs brady from the fucking

49:42

sixties until the day she died or the on in the first

49:44

last half of what will work

49:46

, every day i was my

49:50

area a

49:52

forget it

49:53

right if you have the money is making forty

49:55

those are your the plastic surgery in your face of that

49:57

we should be simpler but you don't amy i'm

49:59

we meet then was the journalists

50:02

just and for some reason he gets his

50:04

coveted invitation to come to campus

50:06

and right about this brand because microprism

50:08

let anyone in and know what and why as

50:10

this

50:10

been obsessed with mike and the campus

50:13

for forever and he says no over and over going

50:15

in and out of the blue sensitivities

50:16

and there was like i saw it all

50:18

jumpers have died he goes what i really

50:20

want to do is like dive in and and to some

50:22

like very hard psycho analysis but we'll have

50:25

time for the

50:25

now and i'm like him to sit down interview

50:27

might just like super honest and like even

50:29

say he says all this of out loud as a

50:32

reporter porn or he's like just

50:34

not everyone to wear clothes i don't want everyone

50:36

to be able to wear clothes he talks about how

50:38

like he wanted to target the cool kids we get

50:40

the full quote later foods like every school

50:42

has cool kids and not so cool good we were

50:44

unabashedly targeting the cool them with

50:47

us you are the ones with all the friends and

50:49

this and this he says all of this is a reporter

50:51

and in two days later reporter get the call that apple tablet

50:54

pulling out with somebody overheard would make

50:56

sense of report another like we're not part of reading of

50:58

is so publishes a story anyway

51:00

now for the times as much as the for salon so

51:03

that out a speakeasy

51:06

all these years later and twenty thirty

51:08

guy benjamin oh keith comes across the two

51:10

thousand two thousand or to

51:11

we want to talk about benjamin a key for second to

51:13

this guy is so fucking cool yeah he's

51:15

like one of the reasons that i didn't

51:17

your abercrombie besides being incredibly

51:20

expensive was because i i literally

51:22

couldn't i was the saturday

51:24

pork head pretty much like the bullying trifecta

51:27

he causes the bullies rocket man

51:30

i don't wear the same

51:32

and what he says is like he was reading

51:34

this article in his like we buses from seven

51:36

years ago and he can't believe that people are

51:39

allowing him to say i am here

51:40

yeah cool cloak they never actually say it in

51:42

a documentary jeffries is quoted as eggs in

51:45

every school there the cool kids and the not so cool

51:47

kids candidly we go after the cool

51:49

kids we go after the attractive all

51:51

american kid with a great attitude and lots

51:53

of friends are we exclusionary absolutely

51:56

that's illegal that you can do that well

51:58

i bet okay saying like this was

52:00

seven years ago and no one gives

52:03

me think about this he says he got to get them

52:05

to change dot org make the petition puts

52:07

it on his own personal social media goes

52:09

to bed overnight the world the club fucking hold

52:11

on topic just talking about it

52:13

earl everyone signing i have what i'm talking

52:15

about of like how harmful abercrombie

52:17

and fitch is the brand and like what is behind

52:19

the brad how it leads to disordered eating

52:21

which he also has experience that you

52:23

have to look like this are your nothing and this

52:26

is mike jeffries view of beauty and in

52:28

this

52:28

year that this will happen in two thousand and thirteen abercrombie

52:30

still a really big deal and so when ben

52:33

is pulling up this article from seven years ago it's

52:35

going viral because nobody can believe

52:37

that this jeffries guy is still the c

52:39

o right of abercrombie he was never

52:41

held accountable for the same it's it's making the

52:43

rounds on twitter on the today show cnbc

52:46

it goes on for weeks and then finally

52:49

abercrombie calls the ben guy and as

52:51

i could off the hounds let's see if we can

52:53

work this out

52:54

step into our office and so he does

52:57

he goes and he brings the ceo of the

52:59

nasa eating disorders association and someone

53:01

from change that org and like to other eating disorder

53:03

professionals which is an incredible and

53:05

he brings like twenty five thousand pages

53:08

each with hundreds of signatures on that he's like

53:10

a very dramatically draw them in front

53:12

of everyone i think that's why i switched the theater

53:14

i have a compliment like he came

53:16

with the fact that had with the emotion

53:18

it was i mean of us have an amazing summer and his home

53:20

the point is that like i was in this room

53:23

where was a all the top dogs of abercrombie

53:25

every single person at that table was

53:27

white mice jeffries doesn't even

53:29

show up for meetings and then would achieve

53:31

diversity officer walk them as hard as i

53:33

did stamps he's like ascended by this

53:36

ben guys inside to explain to me

53:38

how absolutely were an incredibly

53:40

diverse company and all of the great

53:42

things that they had done for diversity in

53:44

their stores since he had come on and

53:46

so he hands me the xbox and i sort of work

53:48

out at night throw it back at it this

53:51

means nothing loves in this room you're the only

53:53

person of color here they have a site

53:56

in the boardroom habits

53:58

are fighting exit

53:59

the todd chief diversity officer guy like this

54:02

is the issue he sounds like on the store

54:04

level they were able to really make change

54:06

look when he started there it was only ten percent

54:09

non white and by the his sixth year

54:11

it was over fifty percent not wait at the store

54:13

level which is great but when you go any level

54:16

up in the company it's just a richer

54:18

and wider an older and like

54:20

that's where the systemic change would have to come

54:22

yeah we learned that the court appointed monitor

54:24

did find the abercrombie repeatedly miss

54:26

benchmark loading underrepresented minorities

54:28

and and marketing and hiring so nothing changed nothing

54:31

changed and benjamin makes it important point

54:33

about todd because he says suicide

54:35

harvey mudd she's the vertigo gas and he's

54:37

like society does this the marginalized people all

54:39

the time yes we put them in this position

54:41

now it's hard to fix all of that

54:43

money was set up the sale

54:44

right and he added that he ends up leaving

54:47

the company and he likes doesn't want to talk

54:49

about it is kind of like the why you're here

54:52

i think that he is trying to protect

54:54

his own legacy with that's where i landed on top

54:56

guess he's not talking about of running about legal reason

54:58

i think he thinks he did good work and he's

55:00

got number of active absolute a really

55:02

unleashes true emotions about it it would kind

55:04

of in his mind diminish the work that

55:06

work did or what let me that and a looks better

55:09

than might todd decline my

55:13

japanese exact everything gets hard side

55:15

of the story

55:17

hi

55:20

the backlog baron online

55:22

company right and you know how sometimes shopping

55:24

in the mind to be like harden mysterious

55:26

you don't know what you're getting yeah no that's going

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to sit by one knows it's easier to break it

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my first yeah fees is my go to company

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of like conform to your feet i've never one

55:56

choose like that but you don't have to break them nc you know where

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they like to work and and

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he was so proud he just he was so excited

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also like they make

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56:55

love you so much but please leave the true crime plans to i

56:57

mean seriously yeah

57:01

what do you could see now and we need samantha

57:03

and cement is awesome she's from tulsa oklahoma

57:05

he's amazing as she where the hit job

57:08

i didn't get a job because of it's actually about

57:10

for the interview and makes basically

57:12

it goes great the manager says to her will be

57:14

calling it a like schedule your orientation

57:16

as she never gets the go after

57:18

say interview me see called the district manager

57:20

because i was wearing a black said sorry

57:23

the time they had a know black policy

57:26

they told her he doesn't matter what color sure

57:28

she can't work here it comes down

57:30

to the headscarf

57:31

no she's doing now yes and

57:33

good but abercrombie doubles down

57:38

major way their legs she doesn't

57:40

look like our clientele she would

57:42

cost us sales to abercrombie

57:44

doubles down to the level of the

57:46

supreme court united states

57:48

we're gonna have a nuclear

57:51

ruled and samantha saber and are lawyers like

57:53

that so you know was really about what skill

57:55

leah said it was discriminate

57:57

story so many things to say number one

57:59

people

57:59

like how would accompany allow

58:02

a something like this to get to the level of supreme

58:04

court and not be settled why if

58:06

we feel doubling down on their racism

58:08

they think it's good for their brand glass and be

58:11

all supreme court justice

58:13

who sides would abercrombie clarence

58:15

mother bomb as honest and he's and prick

58:17

anyway obviously this obviously this i love

58:20

that guy that guy

58:21

samantha when she went the kids yeah

58:23

season history books ya this cases studied

58:26

and last

58:26

yeah that's incredible incredible

58:28

or seats as cool as hell she's if your child

58:31

has really telling a story about it

58:33

i now do we have to talk about the forty seven

58:35

page manual the however less freedom on the debt because

58:37

it's loyal

58:38

they can say yes we learned that like abercrombie

58:40

is like losing it's relevance and make

58:42

jeffries a silver c o it's

58:44

forty million a year

58:45

the in a year the stock is it the garbage

58:48

and yet he still has a forty seven

58:50

page book about how he has to be treated other

58:52

company just some we're not

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have accompanied gonna be obsessed our

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a peculiar and stupid rooted

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to eat hot meal when michael

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or michael guest make guest make respond

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place of phrases like i

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eating eating or sounded like okay hundred

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and seventy second

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moving on and cause super

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if the i don't why can't you just be thrilled

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million dollars bottom line

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loss of its luster because the whole

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idea of exclusions which is what the

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brand was built on nobody wants that

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kids that got bullied grew up and didn't want to

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spend their money trying to be the bully anymore

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abercrombie and fitch place

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day i don't say he just didn't exist

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models he settles a bunch of lawsuits

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