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now onto the episode. Arizona

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torso murder number two. The

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story of Marjorie Orban is eerily

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similar to the Valerie Pape story.

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It took place just four years and

1:18

seven months after the Valerie Pape murder

1:20

in the same city, Scottsdale, Arizona. The

1:24

body was found in a similar

1:26

condition, a dismembered torso, and both

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killers were trophy wives of wealthy

1:30

men. It makes you wonder if

1:32

she was mimicking the Valerie Pape case. Marjorie

1:36

Orban led a somewhat extraordinary life.

1:39

To hear her say it, calling

1:41

her just a stripper would be

1:43

unfairly downplaying her career. Yes,

1:46

she did some stripping, but in

1:48

her mind, she was also a

1:50

talented dancer, a showgirl and a

1:52

choreographer. She officially began

1:54

her dancing career when she was just

1:56

18 in Orlando, Florida, where she danced

1:58

at a downtown. downtown tourist attraction

2:01

called Church Street Station. She

2:03

performed line dances, jazz, and clogging

2:06

routines. Marjorie was extremely ambitious, and

2:08

within a year she was choreographing

2:11

the routines and was promoted to

2:13

be the manager of another location

2:15

called Cheyenne Station. Marjorie

2:18

had always dreamed of being a

2:20

mother, but at just eighteen she

2:22

was diagnosed with endometriosis, a painful

2:24

disorder that affects the lining of

2:26

the uterus. Though pregnancy

2:29

is possible with endometriosis patients, it

2:31

is highly unlikely, and she was

2:33

told that she could not have

2:36

children. This news was a severe

2:38

disappointment to Marjorie, and at that moment

2:40

she decided that since she couldn't lead

2:43

a life for her children, she would

2:45

solely live her life for herself and

2:47

her career. I could

2:49

walk out of any situation. That

2:52

may sound cold and callous, but

2:54

the only person I needed to worry about

2:56

was me. Relationships came

2:59

one after the other, and Marjorie found

3:01

herself hopping from man to man. By

3:04

the time she was thirty-five years old she

3:06

had been married and divorced six times. Most

3:09

of the time she had already found another

3:11

lover before divorcing the previous husband. In

3:14

1985, before the ink was dry on

3:16

her second divorce, Marjorie found herself living

3:19

with a hairdresser named Luke. Luke

3:21

came from a rich family that offered him

3:23

a condo if he moved back home to

3:25

Cincinnati. Marjorie quit her job

3:27

and followed Luke. As they

3:30

drove across the country, Luke got news that

3:32

the condo wouldn't be ready for another month,

3:34

so he suggested they go to Las

3:36

Vegas temporarily. He

3:38

had friends with a salon that he could

3:41

work at for a few weeks until the

3:43

Cincinnati condo was ready for them. Luke

3:46

ended up gambling away their $8,000

3:48

savings, and the salon job was

3:50

nonexistent. Marjorie packed her car

3:52

and left to go back to Florida, but

3:54

her car didn't last long. As

3:57

she drove through Phoenix, Arizona, her car

3:59

broke down. down and needed an

4:01

expensive part that would take ten

4:03

days to fix. Marjorie

4:06

was unsure how she was going to pay

4:08

for the repair when she noticed a strip

4:10

club called Bourbon Street Circus and applied for

4:12

a job. At this point

4:15

she'd never done any stripping, but it came

4:17

naturally for her. Though

4:19

she was classically trained in dance, she quickly

4:21

realized she could work the pole better than

4:23

any of the other girls. Marjorie

4:26

was statuesque and beautiful, with platinum

4:29

blonde hair, long legs, and a

4:31

flawless body. Within days

4:33

she was easily the most popular dancer in

4:35

the club. The patrons were infatuated

4:37

with her, and she was making $500 to

4:40

$600 per night. One

4:43

of those patrons was 26-year-old Jay Orbin. Jay

4:48

Orbin was a regular at Bourbon Street

4:50

Circus, and almost every other strip club

4:52

in the Phoenix area. He

4:55

was well known by strippers and club management

4:57

as one of the best customers. Jay

4:59

was on the chubby side and with not

5:01

the greatest fashion sense. Known

5:03

for his balding, thick, curly, black

5:06

hair, rosy cheeks, cowboy boots, and

5:08

his diamond pinky ring, he came

5:11

across looking much like a used

5:13

car salesman. But according to

5:15

his friends, Jay was funny, charming,

5:17

and had a heart of gold. Jay

5:21

had his own business, Jayhawk

5:23

International, selling Native American items

5:25

like turquoise jewelry, kachina dolls,

5:27

maps, and bows and arrows.

5:31

His work was profitable, and it took

5:33

him all over the country on sales

5:35

calls. He was out of town

5:37

three out of four weeks per month and

5:39

spent his free time in strip clubs all

5:41

over the country. Jay

5:44

had dated many strippers throughout the

5:46

years, but he was completely captivated

5:48

by Marjorie. He would come

5:50

to see her dance and buy her drinks

5:52

every chance he got. Though

5:54

He would ask to see her outside

5:57

of the club, she refused, but he

5:59

persisted. After about two months,

6:01

she agreed to go on an afternoon

6:03

date with him. Despite.

6:05

His persistence. She still didn't see

6:07

yourself attracted to him. He

6:10

was very nice, but not exactly her

6:12

type. Eventually, he paid for her

6:14

car to get fixed and offered to

6:16

let her move into his home. Marjorie.

6:19

Had been paying to live at a hotel and

6:21

he offered to let her stay in a spare

6:23

room and his house for free. He.

6:25

Was gone traveling the country most of

6:27

the time anyway? She. Agreed

6:29

and moved in with him. Though.

6:33

J tried to get her to be romantic

6:35

with him at one point proposing marriage. Marjorie.

6:38

Wanted more from her life and eventually

6:40

move back to Florida and through the

6:42

years the two of them lost contact.

6:45

While. Back in Florida, Marjorie dated

6:47

Michael J. Peter. Michael.

6:49

Was well known the world

6:51

over for transforming the strip

6:53

club industry. He. Took the

6:56

industry from taboo to mainstream.

6:58

He. Bought strip clubs all over the

7:00

world and made billions. For.

7:03

A short time, the two were engaged.

7:05

Marjorie. Traveled the world with him

7:08

and he gave her a role

7:10

in his low budget unwatchable movie

7:12

no More Dirty Deals and got

7:14

her a small spot in Motley

7:16

Cruise Girls Girls Girls Video. The

7:19

song we came in and summit strip

7:22

clubs around the world. Marjorie was the

7:24

choreographer and as clubs though, the strip

7:26

clubs didn't have much in the way

7:28

of choreography. Like. All of

7:31

Marjorie relationships. It didn't last forever.

7:33

The. To stayed on good terms, but Marjorie

7:36

eventually made her way back to Las

7:38

Vegas. Years later, in

7:40

Nineteen Ninety Three, J was on a

7:42

business trip driving through Las Vegas when

7:45

he noticed a billboard for an adult

7:47

review at one of the big casinos.

7:49

He instantly recognized Marjorie on the advertisement

7:51

and bought tickets for the show that

7:54

night. In. The years that

7:56

had passed, Marjorie had become a

7:58

Vegas showgirl and choreographer. They don't

8:00

review shows. The two met and

8:02

J realized he still felt the

8:04

same as he did years before.

8:07

Both. Marjorie Nj were making good money

8:09

by now. But. What Marjorie still

8:12

wanted more than anything, was to have

8:14

a family. Realizing this,

8:16

J proposed marriage again, but this

8:18

time he had a plan. He.

8:20

Told her that she could move to

8:23

Scottsdale, Arizona with him, quit stripping, and

8:25

that he would pay for fertility treatments

8:27

until she got pregnant. Marjorie.

8:29

Like this idea. In Nineteen Ninety

8:31

Four, J and Marjorie got married

8:33

at the Little White Wedding Chapel

8:35

in Las Vegas. The. Same

8:37

chapel's used by celebrities like

8:39

Frank Sinatra, Judy Garland, Bruce

8:41

Willis, and Britney Spears. Despite.

8:45

Her diagnosis, the fertility treatment worked,

8:47

and they had a son named

8:49

Noah in August. Nineteen Ninety Six.

8:52

Though their relationship was doing well,

8:54

Marjorie had sizable debt and was

8:56

having problems paying the Internal Revenue

8:59

Service. To. Protect Jays business assets

9:01

from being seized by the I

9:03

arrests. They got divorced but still

9:05

remain together. For.

9:07

Almost ten years, Marjorie Orban lived

9:10

the life of a normal suburban

9:12

housewife raising her son was a

9:14

travel the country on sales calls.

9:17

Though. This marriage lasted much longer

9:19

than the previous six marriages. Like

9:22

the others, she became bored and

9:24

started seeking other men. Her.

9:27

Infidelity started in two thousand for.

9:30

The. First was her son's eighteen year

9:32

old karate instructor. The second was a

9:34

sixty year old body builders in that

9:36

at the gym Larry Weisberg. With.

9:39

Jay being on the road three weeks

9:41

every month, he was easy for Marjorie

9:43

to hide or affair from Jay. While.

9:45

J was gone. Larry would live at the

9:48

house with Marjorie full time. August.

9:50

Twenty eighth, Two Thousand and Four

9:52

was their son know eighth birthday.

9:55

After the birthday party, J was again

9:57

on the road. This. Time He was

9:59

on his. The to Florida for three weeks.

10:02

But. Once she got halfway to Florida,

10:04

Hurricane Francis had grown too large and

10:06

he turned around and came back home.

10:09

With. This change? He could make it back

10:11

to Phoenix and be home by his

10:13

own birthday. September Eight. On

10:16

the afternoon of September eighth, as he

10:18

was pulling into the Phoenix area, J

10:20

called his parents. He normally spoke to

10:22

his family several times a week. He

10:25

told his mother that the trip was cut

10:27

short and that he was almost back home, just

10:29

in time for his forty fifth birthday. He.

10:32

Told her that he was almost home and would

10:34

call her back later in the day. She.

10:36

Never got that call. Over.

10:39

The next week, when friends and family hadn't

10:41

heard from Jay on his birthday, they got

10:43

worried and called Marjorie. Marjorie.

10:45

Wasn't worried at all. She.

10:47

Said the j hadn't come home. She.

10:49

Said that he had called her and said

10:51

he had to go to another sales trip

10:54

and wouldn't be back until September. Twenty second.

10:56

She. Told them she hadn't seen him since

10:58

her son's birthday on August Twenty eight.

11:01

In. The weeks of followed, Jays family and friends

11:03

were getting more and more worried. But.

11:05

Marjorie wasn't concerned. On.

11:08

September twentieth: Several of Jay's friends

11:10

receive calls from Jay cell, but

11:12

there was nobody at the other

11:14

end. When. September twenty

11:16

second rolled around Nj still hadn't come

11:18

home or even called. They pressured her

11:20

to find the calling the police and

11:23

report him missing. Reluctantly.

11:25

She called. Though. Marjorie

11:27

had reportage a missing. She was

11:29

frequently unavailable to discuss the matter

11:32

with police. Police. Needed

11:34

the license plate number of Jay's Ford

11:36

Bronco so they could use plate recognition

11:38

to look for it. By.

11:40

September Twenty Eight. Police. Had

11:42

left three messages for Marjorie. But.

11:44

She wasn't returning cause. When.

11:46

Detective Jan Butcher of the Missing Persons

11:49

Unit finally got Marge around the phone.

11:51

She was combative. Butcher.

11:54

I kind of get the feeling that you're

11:56

really not available and willing to help us

11:58

out trying to locate. Marjorie. I

12:01

speak more matter of factly the does not mean

12:03

I do not care. Just because

12:05

I'm not running around crying and and

12:07

in hysteria doesn't mean that I'm not

12:10

concerned and not doing anything. Because.

12:12

Of her reluctance to help and

12:15

defensive posturing, police were suspicious of

12:17

Marjorie from the very beginning. When

12:19

police check Jays bank account and credit

12:22

cards, they realized large amounts of money

12:24

were being pulled out of his accounts.

12:27

The. Signatures on the receipts were J.

12:29

Orban, but they quickly realized that it

12:31

wasn't him that was signing them, but

12:34

Marjorie. Within. Days of J

12:36

being missing, Marjorie had been pulling

12:38

out the maximum amount from a

12:40

T M's every day. When.

12:42

Asked about this, Marjorie says she needed

12:45

the cash to pay bills, but when

12:47

police notice that she bought a baby

12:49

grand piano for almost twelve thousand dollars,

12:52

That raised even more red flags.

12:55

Starting. From September ninth, the day

12:57

after J went missing. Marjorie.

12:59

Pulled out over one hundred thousand

13:02

dollars from Jays accounts and over

13:04

forty five thousand dollars from his

13:06

business accounts. She. Was also

13:08

selling merchandise from Jays business.

13:11

When. Police found out the Jay had

13:13

a one million dollar insurance policy

13:15

with Marjorie is the beneficiary. They

13:17

knew this situation was going to

13:19

him badly. Detective.

13:22

Butcher called Marjorie to ask her to

13:24

come to take a polygraph test. Her.

13:27

Tone became even more combative.

13:30

Butcher. Can. We schedule

13:33

to take a polygraph tomorrow. Marjorie.

13:36

She wants me to take a polygraph smile.

13:38

Speaking. To someone else in the room. Larry.

13:42

You tell her to go fuck yourself. Butcher.

13:45

Who's that? Marjorie.

13:48

None. Of your fucking business. It's a friend

13:50

of mine. Is. This conversation

13:52

being recorded. Butcher. Yes,

13:55

It is. Marjorie. It

13:58

is okay. I would like copy of

14:00

that. After the

14:02

phone negotiations proved to be unproductive.

14:05

Scottsdale. Police obtained a search

14:07

warrant for J Orbits House. When.

14:10

The Swat team broke down the door to

14:12

Orban home. They were attacked by a well

14:14

built man. That. Man

14:16

was Larry Weisberg, marjorie

14:18

bodybuilder boyfriend. When. Larry

14:20

attack the swat team. They quickly teased

14:22

him and hit him in the face,

14:25

breaking his nose. Once

14:27

inside the house they sound business Credit

14:29

cards and checkbook said Jay Orban normally

14:32

used on his business trips. Detective.

14:34

Butcher now believe that this was

14:37

not just a missing person investigation.

14:39

Everything see new pointed to it

14:41

being a homicide. On

14:43

October twenty third, on the corner of

14:45

Tatum Road and Dynamite Road. A.

14:47

Trans Am was roaming around a

14:49

piece of Arizona State Trust land

14:52

in the desert just fifty feet

14:54

from the road. Though. It

14:56

was desert. It wasn't remote. The.

14:58

Roads were busy and housing developments were

15:00

only a few hundred feet away. The.

15:03

Man came across a large object wrapped

15:05

in plastic garbage bags and sealed with

15:07

tape. He pulled the tape

15:10

off and rip the black plastic.

15:12

Inside he found a large blue

15:14

rubbermaid storage container. When. You

15:16

open the lead to the container. He

15:18

stumbled back in shock. Besides.

15:21

The horrible stench. He was shocked to

15:23

see a belt buckle and the harry

15:25

belly of a man. The. Man

15:27

immediately ran to a nearby store

15:30

and called police. When.

15:32

The police arrived, They realized it

15:34

wasn't a full body, but only

15:37

half a torso. The. Body have

15:39

been cut just below the rib cage and

15:41

the legs had been severed at the knees.

15:43

They. Could clearly tell it was a man

15:45

by the hair on the belly. The internal

15:48

organs of the lower half the torso had

15:50

been removed. The. Body had been

15:52

dismembered, was closed still wearing jeans

15:54

and a brown leather belts. At

15:57

the bottom of the container, they

15:59

found a thirty eight caliber bullet, mixed

16:02

currency totaling four hundred and fifty

16:04

nine dollars and ten cents, and a

16:06

key ring with eleven keys. The.

16:08

Rubbermaid container was new and still have the

16:11

U P C stick around the bottom. During.

16:14

The Autopsy: The medical examiner determined

16:16

that the body had been previously

16:18

frozen for an extended period before

16:20

it was dismembered. From. The

16:22

markings on the bones, They could tell that

16:25

the body had been dismembered with a saw

16:27

some sort. Six. Weeks after

16:29

J. Orban went missing, they now believe

16:31

that they had found his remains just

16:33

a few miles from his home. Dna.

16:36

Test later confirmed their suspicions.

16:39

They. Also believe that Marjorie or been

16:41

placed a torso there because she wanted

16:43

the body to be found in order

16:45

for her to collect the one million

16:48

dollar insurance claim. Jay had to be

16:50

officially dead, not just missing. Two.

16:52

Days after the torso was found, J

16:55

or Bins green Ford Bronco was found

16:57

parked in a residential neighborhood just a

16:59

few blocks from their home. Detectives.

17:02

Took the keys that were found in

17:04

the bottom of the rubbermaid container and

17:06

is they suspected? The. Keys opened

17:09

and started the Bronco. The

17:11

remaining keys open the Orban home

17:13

and Jays office. Three. Witnesses

17:16

from the neighborhood told police they

17:18

saw a woman matching Marjorie description

17:20

near the Bronco. Around. The

17:22

time the September eight. Three.

17:25

Weeks after Jays body was found,

17:27

police brought Marjorie in for questioning.

17:30

Not. For Jays murder, but for

17:32

forging his signature when she bought

17:34

computers at Circuit City Electronics Store.

17:37

Marjorie. Claim that she'd been signing his

17:39

name for years and didn't realize there is

17:41

anything wrong with using his credit cards after

17:44

his death. To. More

17:46

investigating the police did the more

17:48

evidence started the mount up. When.

17:51

Searching Orban home, they found a receipt

17:53

for Los Hardware Store dated two days

17:55

after J were missing. On. the

17:57

receipt for that purchase were a slew mops,

18:00

various cleaning products, black

18:03

plastic bags, and two 50 gallon

18:06

blue rubbermaid containers. They

18:09

were exactly the same type of

18:11

container that they found Jay's disemboweled

18:13

torso in. In fact, the

18:15

UPC code on the container they found

18:18

was exactly the same as what was

18:20

on the receipt, but the

18:22

most important piece of evidence was

18:24

videotape they acquired at the Lowe's

18:26

store dated September 10th. The

18:29

tape showed Marjorie at the checkout

18:31

counter purchasing the murder cleanup supplies

18:34

and it clearly showed her

18:36

purchasing large blue containers. In

18:40

Jay's office police found a package

18:42

of jigsaw blades. The package was

18:45

missing two blades. The

18:47

medical examiner determined that the cutting

18:49

pattern on his bones was consistent

18:51

with that of the blades. Back

18:54

at the Orban home they found

18:57

that the garage floor had recently

18:59

been acid washed and a layer

19:01

of thick decorative epoxy had been

19:04

put over the cement eliminating any

19:06

chance of finding trace forensic evidence.

19:10

On December 6th 2004, Marjorie Orban

19:13

was arrested at her home charged

19:15

with first-degree murder, fraud, and

19:18

theft. She was held

19:20

without bail and their son Noah was sent

19:22

to live with Jay's parents. Initially

19:24

Larry Weisberg was also a

19:26

suspect. A search of his

19:29

home and vehicle showed that he had

19:31

access to the Orban home. He

19:33

had a garage door opener for their

19:35

garage in his vehicle, so he had

19:37

the means, but there was no

19:39

hard evidence against him. All

19:42

of the evidence pointed directly to Marjorie.

19:45

With a first-degree murder charge in the state

19:47

of Arizona, she now faced

19:49

the possibility of the death penalty. In

19:53

a controversial move, the prosecution gave

19:55

Larry Weisberg full immunity in the

19:57

case if he testified against Marjorie.

20:00

Based with the overwhelming evidence against her,

20:02

Marjorie's attorneys advised her to take a

20:04

plea deal to a lesser charge to

20:06

avoid the death penalty. She

20:09

refused. I will never let my

20:11

son hear me say that I did this to his

20:13

father. I'll let them kill me first.

20:17

Marjorie spent four years in prison awaiting

20:19

trial. During the trial, the

20:21

defense tried to explain that Jay Orbin weighed

20:23

250 pounds and that it

20:26

would have been too physically demanding for

20:28

Marjorie to dismember and move a body

20:31

that large. But

20:33

Marjorie wasn't exactly petite. She

20:36

was a tall, strong woman that

20:38

worked out at the gym religiously. The

20:41

defense also tried to claim that Larry Weisberg

20:44

was responsible for Jay's death, but

20:46

they offered no evidence for that. The

20:49

defense pointed out that he was aggressive

20:51

enough to confront a SWAT team and,

20:53

as a body builder, he was certainly

20:55

strong enough to dispose of a body.

20:58

The prosecutors countered that defense by

21:00

saying Larry Weisberg was just another

21:02

in Marjorie's long list

21:04

of infidelities that she used. They

21:07

also pointed out that investigators found

21:09

no evidence that Larry was involved

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in the murder at all. The

21:14

prosecution also brought in the 19-year-old

21:17

karate instructor that she was sleeping

21:19

with and her former friends a

21:21

claim she often talked badly of

21:23

Jay. The karate instructor

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and Larry Weisberg both claimed that

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Marjorie was skilled in the

21:29

art of seduction. The

21:31

prosecution also called her cellmate from

21:33

prison, Sophia Johnson, to the stand.

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Sophia said that Marjorie had often complained

21:39

to her that Jay was fat and

21:41

disgusting. Sophia claimed that Marjorie

21:43

confessed to her that she shot Jay,

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froze his body, thawed the corpse, then

21:48

cut off his arms and legs and

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head. The only witnesses

21:52

called by the defense was a character

21:54

witness, Marjorie's former billionaire

21:56

lover, Michael J. Peter. a

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glowing picture of Marjorie as a good,

22:02

loving mother, but it wasn't enough to

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sway the jury. The trial

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lasted eight months, but it

22:09

took only seven hours for the jury to come

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back with a guilty verdict. As

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Judge Arthur Anderson handed down the

22:16

sentence to Marjorie, he compared her

22:18

case to yet another Arizona killer,

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Winnie Ruth Judd, who murdered and

22:23

dismembered her two friends in 1931

22:26

and stuffed the remains into steamer trunks.

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At the sentencing on October 1, 2009, Marjorie

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had her son to thank for avoiding

22:35

the death penalty. The jury chose to

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sentence her to life in prison without

22:39

the chance of parole rather than death.

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We all decided that the son is

22:44

the innocent victim here. We

22:47

all walked out of there feeling good. Juror

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Stan Brown. This

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is what we wanted all along. From the

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beginning, we didn't want to kill the boy's

22:56

mother, and we wanted life. Jay

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Orbin's brother, Jake Orbin. To

23:02

this day, Marjorie Orbin claims that

23:04

Larry Weisberg shot Jay Orbin in

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the garage of their home and

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that she never saw Jay's dead

23:10

body and certainly didn't dismember or

23:12

dispose of the body. Marjorie

23:16

admitted that she helped cover up the murder,

23:18

but she didn't kill him. She

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claimed to TV Cruise of the show

23:23

48 Hours that Weisberg was a very

23:25

violent man and shot Jay in their

23:27

garage. She said that Larry threatened

23:29

to kill her son if she told the police

23:31

that he did it. She

23:33

claimed that he told her, it's

23:36

just that easy to snap that kid's scrawny

23:38

neck if you don't do what you're told.

23:41

Though she claimed that Larry threatened

23:43

her to TV Cruise, she never

23:45

told this story to the police.

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Currently, Marjorie's profile

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on rightaprizner.com reads,

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Growing up in Miami, the sunshine and water were

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a big part of my life. Playing

23:58

on the beaches, diving, surfing, and walking. sailing,

24:00

playing beach volleyball. The

24:03

little girl in ballet class was the

24:05

start of a lifelong love of dance.

24:08

I had quite a career as

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a professional dancer and choreographer, from

24:13

Disney World to cruise ships in

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Las Vegas shows. Paris,

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Japan, Germany, even dancing on

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rock videos. Motley Crue,

24:22

Girls, Girls, Girls, traveling all over

24:24

the world. I had many

24:26

exciting adventures. Then, one

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unforeseen incident changed everything. But

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even now, I do my best to be

24:34

positive and create a meaningful life for myself.

24:37

I am strong and healthy and

24:39

active. I teach aerobics classes. I

24:42

am tall, slender, and have long

24:44

blonde hair. I have a

24:46

pretty silly sense of humor sometimes. I

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read, watch trashy TV, and stay out

24:51

of drama. I miss

24:53

traveling, good food, the ocean, interesting

24:56

friends and romance. I

24:58

would love to meet new friends from the

25:00

real world who might share their adventures or

25:02

maybe just talk. Please write to

25:05

me directly. Thanks

25:24

for listening to True Crime Sleep Stories.

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show. Maybe our next story

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will give you the peace of mind you

25:33

desperately need. Or not.