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It's Dick Lair. When I'm not reporting
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or writing, I'm often following the Red Sox.
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And I wanted to tell you about another podcast from
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ABC Audio that you might like, called
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Reclaimed, The Forgotten League. There's
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a hidden story about America's most
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loved sport.
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The Forgotten League explores how baseball
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was shaped by segregation, and
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how the black athletes who were shut out of the major
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leagues created their own space to play.
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It traces the highs and lows
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of what's known as the Negro Leagues. And
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what it tells us about America today. I
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want to play you the trailer for this season of Reclaimed.
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If you find it interesting, click the link
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in our episode description
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and follow the show for the rest of the story.
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Here's the trailer. I've got a question
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for you. Who's the greatest baseball
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player of all time? Whether
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you're a baseball fan or not, you
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probably have someone in mind. Like
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Babe Ruth. His name, as you all
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know, is Babe Ruth. Hank
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Aaron. Baseball legend Hank Aaron.
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Shohei Ohtani. Superstar Shohei Ohtani.
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Four star. These are the greats of America's pastime. Right?
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But what if I told you that names
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have been purposely excluded
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from that list? Players kept out
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of our record books, out of our
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halls of fame, and out of
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our shared memory.
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In 1947, Jackie Robinson
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famously broke the color line. But
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before that, there was a whole other
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chapter of American baseball. A chapter
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that belongs to thousands of black
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players who competed in a segregated
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league. This is not in the pages of
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American history books. And so countless
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generations of us went through our own formal
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educations without knowing one of the most significant
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chapters, not in baseball history, but in American
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history.
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In this season of Reclaim, we're
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going to open that chapter and tell the
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stories of the Negro Leagues.
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I'm Vanessa Ivy Rose. I'm a baseball
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fan and I'm the
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granddaughter of one of the greatest batters
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you've never heard of, Norman
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Turkey
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Stearns. Turkey's first season
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with the Detroit Stars, by all accounts,
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was unbelievable. In
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an era defined by discrimination, my
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grandfather and other black baseball players
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found a way to play the game they loved, and
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they were incredible. Most
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of the time, niggly teams beat the
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niggly teams. I leave it
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at that. Mike drop,
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Mike drop. I've
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wanted to talk
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about these baseball legends for a long time.
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Not just to tell you about their triumphs, but
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also to tell you what they witnessed about this country
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while playing American sport in segregated
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towns and stadiums. It was
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not uncommon for these athletes
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to ride into a town, to luck
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at the ballpark, but yet not be able
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to get a meal from the same fans which has cheer-tipped.
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Today, descendants of these athletes,
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like me, and baseball's institutions,
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like MLB,
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are reckoning with this history. What
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would justice look like after so many
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decades of exclusion? Who
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are you to tell us that we are now major leaguers?
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We always consider our relatives
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as major leaguers.
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So
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I asked who you thought the greatest baseball
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player of all time was. But
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the truth is, you can't really answer
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the question, because you don't know all the
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greats. Yet.
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From ABC Audio, Reclaim,
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the Forgotten League, premieres on
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October 2nd, wherever you get your podcasts.
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