On this episode of Try Saying That Out Loud Jamie and Lo briefly talk about Instagram filters before transitioning into the heavy shit: the Derek Chauvin trial and the killing of Ma’khia Bryant (0:03). They also chat for a bit about the recent culture struggle surrounding book publisher, Simon & Schuster (0:16).

Then, on this segment of “Lo, I wanna know…” she answers a listener question about what to do about period pain (0:29), and before going into her Enneagram Deep Dive, Jamie & Lo discuss the finale of Temptation Island (0:47). Jamie subsequently types both Erica & Kendal (0:53) which is fascinating and spot on.

The ladies conclude by talking about what else they are watching (0:59) (spoiler - Lo has an unhealthy relationship with Below Deck Mediterranean) and reading (1:12). Then, they discuss their May #podpick, Red Pill, and announce June’s pick: Migrations.

Happy listening! Or watching if that is more your speed.