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The Triggers Dynasty podcast. Hello!

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And welcome back to the Tudors Dynasty

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Podcast! I am your host Rebecca Larsen

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and I am once again joined by

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Doctor Am I am about welcome Bag.

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I. How are you urban now? I

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am even better now that you are back

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in the States. Yes, That that

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was of a a wonderful trip. Out

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a great time in the weather is

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just beautiful here in Minnesota so is

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a delight to be back home. Well.

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We're happy to have you because I've

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been really jones and for some Spanish

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monarchy talk again. Really?

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A hidden all. Birds

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never ending right? and we even have ever

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enter his. it's not under the you know

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that the beauty of it in the sixteenth

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century as it's it's very big. It's not

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just. When. We say Spanish monarchy.

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We. Are referring to a

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compound really of of kingdoms

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and territories that that one

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monarch. Would. Whole at the

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same time, It. Was just called Spanish

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that spicer. It's a convention, really. Is

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just all the power that the. Had

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both first trust them on as an than

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the has birds a mass. That. Is

1:10

M. Been. Called Spanish Monarchy

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but it's just a compound monarchy

1:14

that is huge in Europe and

1:17

sixteen century the biggest. Yeah, Yeah!

1:19

and we've been having so many

1:21

fantastic comments on You Tube and

1:23

we had one commenter who said

1:26

they wanted us to do this

1:28

episode. So today we are talking

1:30

about the Children of Wanna. Buy.

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My when I am very good yes find

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out why not the first of get still.

1:38

Yeah. I dubbed by very cruel

1:40

people the man. Ah,

1:42

I'm. And. We've talked about that,

1:44

so whoever wants to check out that

1:47

episode? When. we do more

1:49

of a delve into her his

1:51

story and. The. Reasons why

1:53

people have abducted there.

1:55

Now. There is. Also

1:58

a trend. To. Rick the

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or her legacy and her image and

2:02

and start call her by the rifle

2:04

named. Lana. The first

2:07

of can still to. she was

2:09

the successor of a Saville. the

2:11

first of Kids Still. The. Same

2:13

as is avail the Catholic Isabella.

2:15

Also. This trend in Spain to

2:17

know now that I was there and

2:20

and talking to some plenty. Of

2:22

trying to name people by their in

2:24

S right? So that's why we're making

2:26

an effort to call her Wanna? Or.

2:29

He saw them instead of Isabella which

2:31

was talking about to is either is

2:33

an Italian name that really is and

2:35

how much to do with her or

2:38

her story. Ah I'm so yes the

2:40

that today. We. Are going to

2:42

concentrate on something that we talked about which

2:44

was the. Really, despite the

2:46

fact that ah, sellers. The.

2:48

Of Hamburg and plan on a first.

2:51

Had someone in their marriage the were very

2:53

successful whom. One of the most important points

2:55

of view? the fact that they had six

2:58

children Yes, won't let. And for those who

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have not seen that episode that was just

3:02

on her, why don't you give a little

3:04

bit of a backstory? On her marriage.

3:08

So arm when he

3:10

Samantha Mandel the so

3:12

called Catholic Monarchs decide

3:14

to move. For. The

3:17

revealing to expanding their power

3:19

in Europe after the The

3:21

Art or ruling really and

3:23

founding Spain because. For.

3:25

That mama is king about I've on

3:27

but he's also king is still. While

3:29

I saw this cleaning to still the

3:31

earth that considered the first or Spanish

3:33

monarchs really. Ah, I'm. To.

3:36

Strengthen their power and girl because

3:38

for example, let's not forget that

3:40

Nozzle had an empire in in

3:42

Italy. He. Was king of Naples.

3:44

He was king of Sicily. So.

3:47

The crown about one hundred empire

3:49

in Italy. So. They were fighting

3:51

with, for example the French. Prove.

3:54

New territories in I'm in

3:56

Italy. Like. Milan and other

3:59

different territories. Also the crown

4:01

of Can still had been fighting

4:03

friends in the Atlantic front in

4:05

places like Aquitaine, another through Yen

4:08

and other places that we talked

4:10

about. So really this is the

4:12

emergence of the global world and

4:14

the European powers that trying to

4:16

expand. Arm and ah

4:18

when ah I've on and you're still

4:21

become one with the marriages are phenomenon

4:23

is how they. Really?

4:25

They become very powerful so when they

4:28

have. Children: They decide

4:30

to strengthen that power in Europe

4:32

by marrying their children. To.

4:34

Other monarchs that are there I. Mainly.

4:38

Allies. Against from. So.

4:41

One of the main allies as

4:43

they are able to secure it

4:45

is the Emperor, the Holy Roman

4:47

Emperor, Maximilian, the first. So.

4:49

In this case, The. The

4:51

son of the son of Muslim

4:53

million the first. And his

4:56

wife who is this is a burgundy. Ah,

4:58

Married one of who was the third

5:00

daughter of Isabel and Ferdinand. So.

5:03

The first daughter he saw then named after

5:05

her mother. Ah, Became because she

5:07

was born in the time that. He.

5:10

Seven a another was still fighting for the throne.

5:12

She was the one that secure the Portuguese and.

5:16

Then. The next well as the

5:18

sun and he. Would. Be chosen.

5:20

Married to Margaret of Austria syllable

5:22

that first sister. She. Came on

5:24

as she came to bulldoze when they were

5:26

married. What goes again coming up right. We.

5:29

Love that place so it is like

5:31

a top list of our trip to

5:33

Europe is Buddha was. Murdered.

5:35

Or out and write that down. It's

5:38

third or. Indirectly. Thing that I forget

5:40

about it that I needed time looking up

5:42

things are no good was is is always

5:44

there The main one of us, he died

5:46

shortly after. That is why I think a

5:49

lot of people don't associate Margaret avast your

5:51

so much with a sign of score but

5:53

she stays there because she's pregnant. Ah,

5:56

find me She she has. The.

5:58

The daughter that is born the live and

6:01

eventually she goes on to become the Dutch

6:03

as a salvo and all of the governor

6:05

of the half of Netherlands that we know

6:07

later on. So. This is

6:10

a context where ah wanna

6:12

and finish are are are

6:14

really she goes because he's

6:17

also the Archduke of Austria

6:19

and because as the Netherlands

6:21

are part of disinherited inheritances

6:24

mother. Ah, I'm to.

6:26

Our. Planet goes to live there. So

6:28

she me Spain in Fourteen Ninety Six.

6:30

Actually her mother is a man and

6:32

has insisted that I mean a cast

6:35

of Ireland or there's not a little.

6:37

Ah, That we can also put in the list

6:39

because it's very relevant. Suspects

6:42

very close to where I'm from so we'll

6:44

be able to go to my my city

6:46

where some down there with is also important.

6:48

For example, Margaret avast your Arise insists on

6:50

down there. These were the fourth. Of

6:53

all that hum praise Allah am a lions

6:55

that I had been taught that the talking

6:57

about about the world trade and all that

6:59

so everything tell from those sports into one

7:02

of us were all the wool and all

7:04

these. Commodities from England were

7:06

traded. so if you if you think

7:08

about it I'm fine. I went to

7:11

Secure is that alliance. And. she

7:13

became are such as of

7:15

avast here before she becomes.

7:18

Air is and and finally. When.

7:20

Of of Can Still shouldn't She was not

7:22

really in the cards to become Queen of

7:25

Can Still, but the death of her sister.

7:27

Bird. Well have hope of her brother.

7:30

Really? Because he was the one who was

7:32

a prince of us today as a shortly

7:34

after he mars Margaret of Austria. Some people

7:36

say from. Out too much

7:38

use of matrimony. Ah, but

7:40

I was a song at the

7:43

time. Because. On he

7:45

died shortly after the The Man. And.

7:47

Then her sister's he saw they'll

7:50

also dies in Fourteen Ninety Eight

7:52

after she gives birth. To

7:54

a little baby. That.

7:56

Baby becomes really the air median

7:59

the last. You

8:01

the three Kingdoms really? To Portugal?

8:04

Circus. Still and to another.

8:07

And he's. Less by the

8:09

Portuguese. Ah king. In the care of

8:11

his grandmother he saw them have casinos.

8:13

Have no woman now. He.

8:15

She cares for him but after two

8:17

years he does to. So.

8:21

Ah, so that happens. Ah,

8:23

Really what happens is that fun

8:25

of becomes. The

8:28

successor of his I will

8:30

have to still on by

8:32

matrimony senate a password. That's

8:34

how really in a Spanish

8:36

monarchy and. The. Founders I

8:38

have been on for another word across

8:40

some ana but really then it's the

8:42

how the password. The. takes

8:44

over. After. That the

8:47

next generation when a self energizing

8:49

fifteen Or for because. In

8:51

his seal, women could inherit so.

8:53

Fun! I became. The. Queen the rightful

8:55

when. The. Bit

8:57

of a mess isn't as well. It's like

9:00

a soap opera and an eight hundred though

9:02

it involved. I love that. He

9:04

i have friends now much any

9:06

mean. Or

9:09

rude need and forty nine days

9:12

or lose. The moon is an.

9:14

Eternal to England is messages

9:16

sent two hundred seven percent

9:18

good. The. Card from the. Passage

9:20

that's why they had it sounded an alliance

9:23

with a tutor to. Wear.

9:25

Her of with remains or proper answer

9:27

Friends who prefer. The purpose

9:29

when. Are going

9:31

functionally retarded the enemy so

9:33

they couldn't go all. Are

9:36

they couldn't go all in Man they.

9:38

Had. To go by see. And when

9:40

you look at the map. England.

9:42

And the Netherlands. Is so close. Said.

9:46

And that is specially that voyage.

9:48

Was very very dangerous

9:50

to. Think. About

9:53

the fact that are and fifteen or

9:55

one when Catherine tries to go same

9:57

and for the first time and I'm.

10:00

They have to go back into not a

10:02

little again. that same place where to sister

10:04

live. five years before prayer and then he

10:06

couldn't They couldn't leave for another month. Mainly.

10:08

Because she was very sick. So.

10:11

Her apothecary censor medicine and that, and

10:13

basic. I think she's just terrified to

10:15

go back in the sea. And

10:18

then it's Henry, the eighth seventh whose

10:20

son has done is both to to

10:22

support them to England, so this is

10:24

how dangerous this. Yeah.

10:27

Obama Philippe com to

10:29

Spain. As already.

10:33

A king and Queen of kids still. When

10:36

they almost ah, drown and

10:38

then of in the Trudeau

10:40

court. Where. They meet with Henry

10:42

the Seven than The center almost a month there.

10:45

A long time really? Yeah, it really

10:47

is a long time. all their their

10:49

them. And so refresh my

10:51

memory x I know we've talked about this

10:53

in a previous episode By the time they

10:56

came to England and stay there for that

10:58

month has. A any children but at that

11:00

time. Oh yes, Yes! for

11:02

Atlanta. was pregnant with her six. Times.

11:07

Ah Ahmet voyage She was pregnant.

11:11

I mean, there's any woman in the

11:13

sixties, a city queen. And. Sixteenth

11:16

century from the moment she was

11:18

married. If she was fertile nonsense,

11:20

she would be pregnant most of the time.

11:24

When. Signal Traveled and she she was

11:26

married and fourteen Ninety six. On

11:29

by forty and six. He knows that

11:31

she had six children. While.

11:34

In the case of planner. She. Was

11:36

a lucky unlike her sisters on

11:39

her for my yahoo or my

11:41

preference. All. Her children survived.

11:44

Nasa. Extraordinary thing about that for

11:47

royal couple and the sixteenth century or

11:49

prior to that we have. Yeah, okay

11:51

so let's talk about these silver. And

11:53

let's start with the Lds. So

11:56

the other to was Eleanor. Eleanor

11:59

of Austria, Now we have the think

12:01

these are the children of the house of Austria

12:03

Has birds. Ah, But

12:05

because one not is a ruling

12:07

queen later on. They. Are in

12:09

fun thousand and of on and twelve

12:12

becomes prince of a studious to. So.

12:14

They are. Avast Yeah. And

12:17

fame. And to sail. Through. Both one

12:19

of your the queen of our one

12:21

when her father that so that their

12:23

the silver are. The

12:26

most vivid Hum Emperors and

12:29

Queens because they are basically

12:31

the embodiment of of to

12:34

super powers joining together right?

12:37

Yeah, Ah. life. He

12:39

seven and friend and fellow really. So.

12:42

Eleanor was born in shortly after the

12:44

wedding. well couple years. Fourteen Ninety Eight.

12:47

Or Eleanor and an Audiologist. Arm.

12:50

So again and daughter First blighty

12:52

some is. So. It seems

12:54

like you're mainly women now with have a

12:56

daughter first and cancer bar that. Had.

12:59

A daughter first, right? Move Something

13:01

much. These, as I said, You.

13:04

Know sometimes you meet families with is

13:06

a lot of girls and you like

13:08

something so not use those some genetic

13:11

predisposition having girls have some assessing. I

13:13

mean let's be fair though, Catherine did

13:15

have Henry, Duke of Cornwall first. She.

13:18

Did she did? She did. That's the first

13:20

miscarriage behind with a girl. A

13:23

little thicker, remember that. Thank you for pointing that

13:25

out. So. Is

13:27

it seems she tells the done. So.

13:31

Girl: boy. Thing.

13:33

Than the was another the the to

13:35

was the tasman to I'm when I

13:37

have two boys and four girls. From.

13:41

The South and their mother

13:43

had one boy and and

13:45

for birth so boys the

13:47

Thunderbirds new businesses. That bird

13:49

sings about the size, money, He

13:51

is flexible enough because the women have

13:53

those rights into sales to give these

13:56

women power. Really an insulin? So. That's

13:59

my the first night. Really become sad

14:01

powerful because it is in different

14:03

places. So the monarch com been

14:05

everywhere. Charles This is is

14:07

that they say that took the money to

14:09

travel the most. In the

14:12

sixteenth century. But he couldn't be in our

14:14

kingdom so he had his sister's to govern for

14:16

him. And they're all very

14:18

loyal. They were very tiny, someone they were,

14:20

you know, cousins, and. Up

14:23

as a as a fellow

14:25

baby Remain so it's. Really

14:28

really. Language assists the speed of

14:30

my uncles cousins with friends. Why

14:32

married when I was sixteen? And

14:35

he was forty five specific kind

14:37

of light that he and I've

14:39

you think about it is some

14:41

but it's a it's been done

14:43

another societies are to keep power

14:45

to marry within the same family

14:47

like and. On Ancient Egypt,

14:49

for example, Is this a

14:51

strategy? Really not a good one when

14:53

it's a pre scientists as world because

14:55

they don't know. They. Weren't

14:57

aware that of the. Of the things

14:59

we are aware of. Ice people that

15:01

live in i'm in a scientific world,

15:04

right? We know that that's bad for

15:06

genetics. They didn't know that they can

15:08

have found out. Along the way.

15:12

I doubt that if we think we

15:14

think about. says. They. Say.

15:17

We think about Queen Victoria. I

15:20

mean, now we're talking nineteenth century.

15:23

She. Married her cousin. she should have known better

15:25

at that point. One. Man

15:27

is it is. The second didn't emerge. Oh

15:29

I think he was a cousin to. Yeah,

15:31

they should know better. At

15:34

still I think it's his father in

15:36

his the Circle you move in. it's

15:38

ah, it's it's a doozy some first

15:40

know so you can't marry anyone. I

15:42

think it's changed a lot of the

15:45

twentieth century. With. The

15:47

Spies Royal family the we've seen the

15:49

change to They used to marry their

15:51

cousins in the nineteenth century to. So.

15:53

I thing is this a strategy that

15:56

was used sodas norman and just acceptable

15:58

and nowadays they don't be. We

16:00

are in a different time on we

16:02

realize it's not obviously is not good

16:05

so I think is this depends on

16:07

the time many. And. In

16:09

when we say they found. Along.

16:11

The way about this is because the

16:13

second child of Cinnabon you're on. When

16:15

I was Charles Charles Soule was born

16:18

and fifteen hundred. Ah,

16:20

he was born in the toilet. So.

16:22

Wanna was ah in a

16:24

party. And she wasn't feeling

16:27

well and she just one two thousand

16:29

and hundred books that. Were. Never

16:33

heard that cerebral. For her,

16:35

your anger. So

16:37

you know how the third. Reich.

16:40

Gonna dance over of you know man,

16:42

people. Are. Because he was born there.

16:44

Hum, he was born fifteen hundred says as

16:46

they did some kind of. Realize.

16:48

What we are historically. Ah,

16:51

I thought of the other day that for

16:53

example, Charles the First of England's was born

16:55

sixteen hundred. So. Those kind

16:57

of like miles so moments

16:59

where on. Things. And

17:01

did that that the most powerful man

17:03

in the sixteenth century was boring, sifting

17:05

hundreds of. The most violent. And.

17:08

Italy and upset about

17:10

that story. Soviet Union.

17:12

So I didn't know that I've never

17:14

obama, are you in like that? That's

17:17

my phone and outfit. makes him fondly

17:19

that sort of the story out of

17:21

oh what a Wow. Well of course

17:23

my mind immediately. Ghosts Who were the

17:25

other rulers? So in England it would

17:27

have been Henry the Seventh, and in

17:29

Scotland I believe it would have. And

17:32

James the Fourth. So

17:34

that just gives you a little perspective there when. He

17:37

was a landlord has has had since I

17:39

left and think. That's

17:41

because or Catherine Table on Sunday.

17:44

but I did and friend now

17:46

year that I am so happy

17:48

to seven had been in the

17:50

in the. Throes. Of a senior

17:52

he was pretty much he was getting ready

17:54

for the marriage. As. Do so,

17:56

for example, London was I was

17:58

getting ready for. Remember. And

18:01

they and fifteen hundred. Sent.

18:03

Letters between I'm Catherine on her sister.

18:05

One or so they were in contact.

18:08

Ah, Ah, it's

18:10

existing hundred. Catherine was getting ready

18:13

to go to England preparing this

18:15

humongous diary. And commission

18:17

really of stuff that she

18:19

does. Take

18:24

on very very interesting conversation

18:26

about Catherine's paintings in Spain.

18:29

Then. Or might be able to share

18:31

some of the of the new findings

18:33

on that because it's really, really. Something.

18:36

Really cool so you have

18:38

need. The

18:41

survey. Says he's

18:43

buoyancy thing hundred and he the

18:45

boy. So. There is

18:48

super happy because he's the air and he

18:50

lives on. He. Dies And Fifteen

18:52

Fifty Five. Just. Fifteen fifty

18:54

six I think I was confused. his

18:57

mother and his death. Ah,

19:00

I can't believe I have a Masters Inspires

19:03

Maracana car. I don't know I know anyone

19:05

like he was born on the well. I

19:07

thought I pulled up Wikipedia which and okay

19:09

so like to go off of but it

19:11

says he died and fifteen fifty eight. Fifty

19:14

Fifty Eight as as highlight Hundred

19:16

and Fifty Fifty Six Very Go.

19:19

See. Cause Charles. Ah,

19:23

Last as a little bit of the end of his life.

19:26

Ah, money was said tired,

19:28

melancholic, and things like that.

19:30

Basically he was. Tired.

19:33

Of fighting what happened and during

19:35

his his time in his demands

19:38

which was the reformation really he

19:40

was a sister lives. He.

19:42

Was ah so he had just

19:44

seen in the empire as he

19:47

was Holy Roman Emperor involved just

19:49

the reformation had taken. Now it's

19:51

just was one of the things

19:53

that he. He fell that

19:56

had been a failure. So that's why

19:58

for example, he doesn't give that in

20:00

her her son Philip the Second of

20:02

Spain who is not Holy Roman Emperor.

20:05

His brother. Who.

20:07

Is not the third son ah

20:09

another third one in and the

20:12

marriage of Mana On and Phillip

20:14

as see the Forest. But.

20:17

Mandel Ferdinand he was he was sick

20:19

Holy Roman Emperor. After his brother Charles

20:21

the South Africa just said i need

20:24

advocate I'm going to do say. Which.

20:26

Is a monastery I'm just and retire and

20:28

and just spend their whatever and have left

20:31

in. And. Prayer and Justin

20:33

Solitude. And. That's how Philip

20:35

the such an inherent said that

20:37

the throne when he's King of

20:39

England married to Mary cheer. This

20:43

is how connected the Tudors are to the

20:45

Spanish market. I

20:47

love these connections. I love that you're opening

20:50

our eyes to these connections because I think

20:52

it's so easy to forget. How.

20:54

Intertwined say we're. Was.

20:57

Listen to this cell is

20:59

so they had Elena Charles

21:01

then they honey as a

21:03

sub as who became Ah

21:05

I'm who became Queen of

21:07

Denmark. And then see her

21:10

descendant come back in the form of

21:12

Bar and of Denmark who marries said

21:14

James the first of the sixth in

21:16

the first. So this is how connected

21:19

all of this is. And then when

21:21

that Moscow is born. Wanna

21:23

a zinc is still so he's born

21:25

in on Sullivan. Not a the same

21:27

plays that Catherine of Aragon has been

21:29

born. In. A

21:32

specific comes eventually Holy

21:34

Roman Emperor necessarily. the

21:36

some ah a daughters and sons

21:39

of a point on and then

21:41

it becomes just. You.

21:43

Know. These powerhouse names

21:45

and you're really. Do.

21:47

You know why he didn't choose

21:49

Philip as his successor is Holy

21:52

Roman Emperor. Has. He

21:54

saw. Yes,

21:57

So the wins assistance in the

21:59

same that. Herman. Herman

22:01

normal voice. I see no three. When.

22:03

Fun! I was left behind by

22:06

Philip wins fastest man isn't that

22:08

fun out with her mom then

22:10

when Fernandez boys are. Fun!

22:13

As having one of her bad episodes

22:15

she has a a big confrontation with

22:17

her mother. you saw them. She's.

22:19

Placed. In house arrest basically

22:21

by her mother. And he

22:24

had. A bad

22:26

reaction on she. Says

22:29

about my freshman ah outside and the

22:31

cold and rain and the not. And.

22:33

Then she has as as outbursts sell

22:36

her mother the size okay you need

22:38

to go to your husband does all

22:40

that fun I wanted. Was. To

22:42

go to Europe and purposes her mother

22:44

didn't want her to go pregnant heavily

22:46

pregnant for once she has the baby.

22:49

She. Leaves. And need

22:52

the baby with. Ah Sutherland Farina.

22:55

So. The. The

22:57

grandparents. And. Fannie Suburbs

22:59

eyes the following year. So far

23:01

none of I have raises for

23:03

none of Austria. He's. Raised

23:05

in Spain. And when from

23:07

them dies. The. Spanish subject one

23:09

for an end to be king not

23:11

Charles who is didn't planners with Margaret

23:13

of Austria. And. Doesn't know word

23:15

is Spanish for example This

23:18

how complicated this inheritance. Of.

23:21

He. Seven I'm from Seven Am though is

23:23

really become right. I'm so

23:25

one what Chance does when he comes to

23:27

to Spain and they're like we don't want

23:30

you can you don't even speak Spanish He

23:32

could have learned a lot better if you

23:34

think about it to see I used to

23:36

be kinda Spain. ah. He's

23:39

like we want your brother know. How

23:43

he sends his brother all. Sell.

23:45

Version then that choirs all his

23:47

his. Political. Ah,

23:50

importance in Europe in

23:52

Austria in those places.

23:54

So when. I'm

23:56

Charles a citizen of the end of his

23:58

time and decided his inheritance he thinks is

24:00

to. I think he thinks it's too complicated

24:02

to keep us together. So.

24:05

You decide what my brother can consider

24:08

it. Still the huskers. We can still

24:10

bring it back together at some point.

24:12

But and for now. It's.

24:15

Too complicated to be king of

24:17

Spain. Ah, where's the groin empire

24:19

in America? On Holy Roman

24:21

Emperor I where everybody's products and now on.

24:23

There's a lot going on. In. Yeah,

24:25

that makes sense and he saw wet for

24:27

newer. Found out what his dad had done

24:29

through. Avenue deal with I.

24:32

Mean he was constant fighting

24:34

right? Tons of battles war

24:36

trying to achieve. And.

24:38

Sustained as well. You mean

24:40

tell the Fed. Yes,

24:43

So. And party ended up having fun.

24:45

Is this whatever I want to them?

24:47

the emperor and he has been a

24:49

year or so. I mean sounds as

24:52

if they do say he's and let's

24:54

just finished saying the before we go

24:56

on chosen as many have another to

24:58

our daughters. They've had. Madea Mary

25:00

of Hungary who will talk about who

25:03

is my favorite of all the children

25:05

are bomb of you wanna I'm from

25:07

and I'll tell you why and in

25:09

the last lawn. When.

25:12

They come to Spain back to

25:14

board of us because everything comes

25:16

back to would have those and

25:18

they're They're on phone and as

25:20

I was talked about this is

25:22

just recap that I'm so wanna

25:24

sell it. Of. Has bird come

25:26

to spank as a king and queen

25:29

of of the still and I'm borderless

25:31

and they meet with Ferdinand who is

25:33

nice. Well. I'll give you the

25:35

power as he had been reason enough

25:37

sense to the moon flanders. But

25:40

he says in a lot because I don't get

25:42

on with your son of a once in a

25:44

goto on our lawn. And. Just do

25:46

my thing because I'm the king of and alone

25:48

and I need of figure out my own inheritance

25:50

with i don't have a son for example that

25:53

was a problem on so that that memo had.

25:55

Well. Then it dies. To. The

25:58

couple days later, Very

26:00

abruptly. Ah, here we go

26:02

again since. The mid

26:05

more than whining. the was I think of.

26:10

Southern. Room I was sad he

26:12

was poisoned. Mice and men they'll

26:14

have undergone. Forget

26:17

them another one of the race into Machiavelli

26:19

to write the press. He.

26:21

Was a great moment, but he was ruthless.

26:24

He. Has. Been wars

26:26

he had, he had. He

26:28

was bloodthirsty, was a conqueror.

26:31

He. Incentive. Of

26:33

Hazzard wasn't gonna get in his way, sod

26:35

I'm sure you did poison them. Imagine.

26:39

For. One. Who. Was madly in love

26:41

with him. And she's

26:43

pregnant and she gives birth to

26:46

her master. Mary. Who

26:48

decided that has stayed with murder? This

26:50

was raised by married monsieur in the

26:52

Netherlands. She hasn't a baby daughter

26:54

that she named after her sister should. And

26:56

because I mean a. For. Us

26:59

and and Catalina is pleased.

27:02

When. And hundred improve things happening is

27:04

imprisoned with her. So.

27:07

Bad girl. Lives

27:09

imprisoned until her brother Charles Com

27:11

Sustain is like we can have

27:14

an infant. Those families conditions. And

27:17

then they sneak out. On

27:20

one are just get so riled up

27:22

the did have to that Charles gets

27:25

all I knew. Rule and any brings

27:27

a bath. This.

27:29

Is how. In. I every

27:32

but maybe for Johnny. Doesn't

27:34

have. Anything.

27:36

Same kayla, You think that shooters

27:39

had drama. These guys really have

27:41

the drama. The. More

27:45

Six down. These guys are my

27:47

dreams. Real five foot six boys

27:49

in each other, You know who?

27:53

Allowing crazy if you don't do I. Was

27:56

with. Imagine. The.

27:59

Tension. And.

28:01

Then got it? doesn't he know? I for the final daughter

28:03

goes on to marry the king. Of Portugal. When.

28:07

Her. Aunt. Dies.

28:10

Visiting. Of Portugal, Man with the first.

28:13

My story. To. Tell some another

28:15

one. Has birds. Fifty five is as

28:17

good as a slower rate. This is I

28:19

think. I bought this is the one that

28:21

was married to the two sisters set ablaze

28:23

and now a nice. Of

28:26

your. Oh. Yeah, they were related

28:28

to. Have I just?

28:30

I don't even notice a while back. But.

28:34

It is. It says they move as a

28:37

society. But it sounds very weird to

28:39

us because we live in a

28:41

different time obviously. So this is

28:43

how complex these six siblings are written

28:45

some other and or Spanish by

28:47

birth. And by my breath

28:49

is one thing and been put be

28:51

raised. Think it still. Is very different.

28:54

Have been raised in the Netherlands with Margaret

28:56

About feel. So.

28:58

For example, the was raised by

29:01

Margaret a butcher are also raised

29:03

by the grandfather. Must million. For.

29:05

Example: In the case of money, and

29:07

Mary of Hungary will become she's known

29:10

as Mary of Hungry because he basically

29:12

becomes Queen of Hungary. She. Is

29:14

raised by murdered but mainly by

29:16

her grandfather. much the million and

29:18

she becomes the most outstanding patron

29:20

of the arts and sixteenth century

29:22

Europe. Or is it

29:24

has and is not known. Because.

29:28

It's always. For. Years and years

29:30

and century. They thought it was Charles

29:32

whom and who read everything but she

29:34

was among many in the in the

29:37

backstage creating all his image. Ah,

29:39

you know on commissioning

29:42

amazing artists like Titian?

29:45

She. Do a whole line when when you

29:47

know for example hinder the a sense Holbein.

29:49

To. Paint her nice cause then she'd

29:52

take the role of Margaret of Butcher.

29:54

When Margaret avast should die, she become

29:56

the next. Let's say it market avast

29:58

her she becomes. The. The

30:01

Governor of the Handbook Netherlands where.

30:03

Is. One of the focal point of

30:06

renaissance production. So.

30:08

She is of the center of an

30:10

artistic revolution. For. Example: she

30:12

has. He. Inherits supports a

30:14

gallery from organ of Austria, but she takes

30:16

the to the next level. Wizards.

30:19

To artist whose. To.

30:21

Patients Who? Is It easy?

30:23

Creating a revolution? Important? Sure.

30:26

That. Moon not that will go

30:28

on for another one hundred and fifty years.

30:30

That's how much. Titian. Changed.

30:33

Everything, for example. And she's the one

30:35

that had. The. Most

30:38

paintings by Titian see

30:40

a commission. Ah,

30:43

Poor. Ginormous paintings of nude

30:45

men. Can

30:47

we think of the women of the

30:50

of the punishment a key is prudes

30:52

well depends which. Is it's

30:54

a temporary? My partner. I

30:57

want big new members. And

31:00

then in my eyes I shall have you know my

31:02

thing. But you know. And these

31:04

are these new men. Two of

31:06

them as Down the Barrel Museum

31:08

or. I'm. Dying some the thirty

31:11

below the really representing is the

31:13

punishment of the products and take

31:15

a princess that had i'm bad.

31:18

At War Against the Rules of Tells The fifth.

31:20

Of was an allegory of the power

31:22

of the harper is really and the

31:24

punishment of these princes that has a

31:26

disability. Her her brother. who she

31:28

always was in the forefront of

31:31

defending in terms of propaganda let's

31:33

say arts and propaganda and is

31:35

pointer very. High. So wasn't

31:37

like a play girl said. I

31:40

was. And this

31:42

was her. How is that? She would

31:44

receive everyone here? Ah, I'm so this

31:46

is really just showing the power of

31:48

the has breaks. And she's I

31:50

saw. Mostly. You wanna the

31:52

lousy? You're the receiving one of those. German.

31:55

Presses in your python you like. This is

31:57

what happened to the last one isn't how.

32:00

Forever. You

32:02

know, you know the what? Edmunds. I'm

32:05

having a flashback now to the other

32:07

painting of the year, Battle of Spurs.

32:09

You sit, sit the bus. I am.

32:11

I'm like hey, remember this guy is.

32:16

This how does that? Women in the Sun

32:19

is not a to use our for example

32:21

that that's one of the siblings charles them

32:23

Some the most important ones in political terms

32:25

can see the King of Spain and Holy

32:27

Roman Emperor. In there, for example,

32:30

in the Battle of Bobby, out is a

32:32

very pivotal moment in European history. He

32:34

he wins and France's the first

32:36

King of France has taken hostage.

32:39

Was. Who had a painting of the Battle of

32:42

By The End is. In his collection. Henry

32:44

The Eighth Muslims as. Things

32:46

And that, Not.

32:49

Three others such as the President

32:51

said that. In

32:54

the poetry collection of Henry, the Eighth,

32:57

Air and On can survive on because

32:59

we have to remember. This. It

33:01

appears in his inventory, but he didn't acquire

33:03

all these paintings. Series. A double

33:06

portrait of France's of first. And.

33:08

Catherine Ah nice. Eleanor the

33:10

eldest of the siblings. On

33:13

his mother this painting is still in the

33:15

royal place interests and as they say is

33:17

that a lot of he says as those

33:19

kind of unique. Because. It's

33:22

a devil portrait for the chronology is very

33:24

early. There is. Because

33:26

it is mocking friends, Friends is

33:28

really a So and Eleanor with

33:30

a symbol of power of Lauren,

33:33

power and peace. But. Also

33:35

because is that there is a

33:37

and in the background. The.

33:39

Xom just adjusters as I

33:41

would cause. People.

33:45

Live Who was the the guy who

33:47

oh what you call these guys in

33:49

the court. They're. All is

33:51

something about adjusters. yeah, suggested

33:54

sorry about that word. I'm

33:58

suggesting in the background. Pointing

34:00

to the king, So. This

34:02

is basically some a painting to mark

34:04

the masses. The first that I'm sure

34:06

was shown next to the painting of

34:08

the Battle of by the Yeah. That

34:11

is still so in there. And the. And

34:14

the Royal Commission Trust and Is attribute it's

34:16

a German school. So. This is

34:18

the all these paintings you also have.

34:21

In the same projects and this same painting

34:23

collection of Henry the eighth. A

34:25

painting of the Second Rome that happens

34:27

when the troops of Charles This This.

34:30

Were. Very bad. And went into

34:32

Rome and did bad things. So. This

34:35

is a battle really sending all these pictures.

34:37

The Henry the Eighth is a battle really

34:39

between Charles. Mary. Of

34:41

hungry I'm Frances the first. To.

34:44

Win over Henry the eighth. And

34:47

was this at the same time during the

34:49

gray matter? Yes, Yes

34:51

around. so by the yeah is

34:53

insisting twenty five. Can. Sell.

34:57

Fifteen Twenty Five. Told.

34:59

The say if is still the truth

35:01

to Mary Tudor Princess Mary. A.

35:04

Year later he breaks. That commitment

35:06

and he married Isabella of

35:08

Portugal. Right

35:11

now and then that slammed the

35:13

whole great matter really breaks out.

35:17

And that's when Henry the Eighth decides

35:19

that his marriage has never been been.

35:22

Raised. The sake of the. Has birds he can't

35:24

take it anymore. The

35:26

enough with you guys are moving on. Ah,

35:30

I think you know. Charles.

35:32

To Save was twice in England so

35:34

they met each other. the also met

35:36

again after the civil can go anywhere.

35:38

the comedy and they were there together

35:40

using some it. With. Him he

35:42

intensive. Thomas. Com Henry,

35:44

his uncle and of his

35:46

name and seven. says.

35:49

You never he was a crewman.

35:51

He really really good with cancer.

35:53

I'm he Couldn't care less about Henry

35:56

ceilings. And we know what happens

35:58

to people did. Take

36:00

into consideration as in Henry you know

36:02

has a little salty though that com

36:05

the british too much to he he

36:07

loses it. Well, let's

36:09

be fair when he decided he

36:11

wanted to separate from. Catherine. Of

36:13

Aragon, he was losing a lot of power.

36:17

He was losing power. Yes,

36:19

exactly. That's why. The. Try

36:21

to cheer him up. Sir.

36:24

Harry Guilford ha some guy.

36:27

And Catherine have that picture as they

36:29

want they entered My whole life has

36:31

a the Basically they recruit whole nine

36:33

to Cherub Henry Paint is an interview

36:35

like oh look what I did there

36:37

anymore. He's. Not existing. thirteen

36:40

anymore. Mates. Ice,

36:42

He's in Fifteen Twenty Seven. And

36:44

then what was what becomes of Henry

36:47

Days international Summer. Let's be honest here,

36:49

he becomes more of a laughingstock. I

36:51

think that any the and of course

36:53

he does. And of course I think.

36:55

He. Loses respect, Of

36:57

the loss of as the Catholic world

36:59

obviously I think of you know obvious

37:01

reason. Think allowed

37:03

in and look at his sister

37:05

is the ones that he married

37:08

off internationally. They. You

37:10

know his his sister Margaret her

37:12

husband is killed. She marries some

37:14

random guy sleep back to England

37:16

his other sister Mary. as the

37:18

old French king he dies. She

37:21

marries one of his best friends.

37:23

Comes with without selling Henry. Yeah,

37:25

so he's lost all of his

37:27

connections. That should have brought his

37:29

family strength. Rise. And and

37:31

then all of this thing is that

37:34

everybody doing things behind his back. As

37:36

the with is Mary. Married.

37:39

Charles Brown and without you know as

37:41

he entered harrys not happen. And

37:44

was not happy about. I think

37:46

he's just realizing that even though

37:49

he's the king, He

37:51

doesn't have the respect of a lot

37:53

of people, not as much for groundless

37:55

chats. Remind on does for example, there

37:57

is a point where the man who.

38:00

Them to wrong. Ah,

38:02

Is writing to empresa. Isabella who

38:04

she married Charles shouldn't have an

38:06

option how to marry her cousin.

38:08

Obviously the do i'm of thumb

38:10

for Charles Marion. He chose her,

38:12

but she doesn't Catherine. And

38:15

Sheath is the one because she's left

38:17

as governor and and Spain. Asensio

38:19

bravo by the way who is

38:22

doing a Phd on her governance?

38:24

It's just about finishes phd. So

38:26

sad or to him that I

38:28

know that's gonna be a seminal

38:31

work so says have good job

38:33

I always read it on. She

38:35

is doing all the the logistics

38:37

to get all this evidence and

38:40

witnesses to defend cancer and. She.

38:44

Stayed in Rome. The letters

38:47

is considered really. Good.

38:49

Because they think she's going to become the same.

38:54

Time as more became a Saints My

38:56

maids. So. Tesla incident

38:58

with illness and or for the

39:00

way she was considered. Mean.

39:03

You have to say, Good News

39:05

for example. Of. When.

39:08

Thomas Moore was beheaded, but also

39:10

when all the terraces. Priests

39:12

were ordered. Imagine

39:17

the news hidden Rome. Or.

39:20

Hitting the rest of Italy are heading spin.

39:22

Move. On. To

39:25

War or just Enough says he I

39:27

thought I was up for what he

39:30

was doing to Catherine to I'm In

39:32

The World. Did. Not.

39:35

Get. Confronted Henry about this is

39:37

just A and it's just you know

39:39

you run an island, there you have

39:41

a a strength position of yeah, try

39:44

to come try to come see what

39:46

happens right? Yeah I ah but yeah

39:48

he was discredited internationally when he did

39:51

that. really and then what he tied

39:53

to do with some I'm but then

39:55

was that was the to establish a

39:57

French alliance. But first the first. Couldn't

40:00

care less about Henry either. Because

40:02

he was a even a better to. Men

40:05

with. A

40:08

sprained. My, as much

40:10

as I hate to say was a lot

40:12

more powerful than Henry the Eighth walks said

40:14

he murder. He was able

40:16

to bring the united of into their friends. So.

40:19

Is now. But. He

40:21

didn't mean. He didn't really

40:23

care too much about him. He.

40:26

Cared about, Filled with it, So.

40:29

As a weapon, for example, When

40:32

France is a further captured and with the

40:34

women who negotiated the P So in fifteen

40:36

twenty nine of the thing called Melt and

40:38

five an awesome as a piece of the

40:40

ladies. The women who are always

40:43

like, come on guys and others enough.

40:45

You. Know the women do and in

40:48

those conflicts of diplomatic on six

40:50

in. The sixteenth century. We. See

40:52

that might never. Before. Women:

40:54

Are. Extremely powerful in that

40:56

sense. In the sixteenth century. There's.

40:59

A book I read years ago

41:01

by Sarah Griswold called Blood Sisters

41:03

but I think talks about all

41:05

of this: how these women. You.

41:07

Know navigated this political world and we don't

41:09

give them the credit for it in this

41:12

book. Was an eye opener for me. There's.

41:15

A lot of words been done now,

41:17

but I think there's still more dissemination

41:19

that nice to be done with this.

41:22

Because. When you talk to people about

41:24

the Renaissance, You. Still get a

41:26

lot of the that the maleness. Yeah,

41:29

you hear in his or left his sails,

41:31

you're in there. You'll hear that Marius hundred

41:33

not someone comes up as much as he

41:36

was the most important patron of the arts.

41:39

Of the sixteenth century was probably

41:41

in many ways and respects. First

41:43

and foremost because she was a

41:45

woman. So ah, Would more difficult for

41:47

her than for anyone else. Isn't

41:50

in all reality? We have to admit.

41:53

That are like we talked about before. Blood

41:55

was a both genders. So. These

41:57

women a nod to any one. Day.

42:03

To. Bother

42:06

to read? I'm Miriam a bird,

42:08

any of us, Some. Women: Because

42:10

in Burgundy to may have been

42:13

strong women and a strong presence

42:15

of women. On if you

42:17

think about it, when Margaret avast shirt

42:19

as Governor of the house the Netherlands,

42:21

for example, there's. Quite. A

42:24

few women artists. That

42:26

are included in the books by

42:28

Giorgio Vasari, for example. Who.

42:30

Talks about the life of the same as

42:32

painted and artists. And. He months,

42:34

and specifically the Netherlands, is

42:36

a place where women are

42:38

doing astounding work. And he mentions

42:40

his on a Hundred and Nurses have been

42:42

utterly. Her. It's

42:45

also that the woman is charged changes

42:47

a lot of the things to Some

42:49

women in the second century need a

42:51

little lot more. Ah, credit for

42:53

what they were doing. They

42:55

definitely do and I'm glad you're talking about

42:58

them. Yes yourself imagine

43:00

Atlanta and said to go back

43:02

to our main topic. Which.

43:04

Was one. I'm finished children. I.

43:07

Let. Those became

43:09

first Queen of Portugal.

43:11

Like me for hims is a Queen

43:13

of France. She was hated by France's

43:15

the first, she was mistreated enormously by

43:18

him and but she was still present

43:20

herself in full of Spanish retire. Is

43:23

all the way to slap him in. The. Face to

43:25

face, the theo. I'm

43:27

wearing Your enemies Close The zebra. Me here

43:29

to be a queen. But. I

43:31

am. I am poor. You really if

43:34

you think about it concerns me see

43:36

become. The most powerful man. On.

43:38

Earth, but at the same time is

43:40

kind of. His inheritance is destroyed because.

43:42

It's too much, really. Know. Once

43:45

in a half. So much power. I think that's

43:47

a lesson. About an hour he saw their limits

43:49

of it. Goes on to marry the king of

43:51

Denmark and then. That praise

43:53

the connection between. England.

43:57

Scotland, And then large.

43:59

So there is. The know that. Made.

44:01

Around with fish, the fourth with

44:03

a descendant. With. The father of

44:05

on and then Marks where it becomes

44:07

Queen of England Sell. Them: This

44:10

is how far reach these siblings

44:12

are. Then we have a man

44:14

the board insane but became Holy Roman

44:16

emperor. So. Imagine that voyage

44:18

from. Little. As a lot

44:20

a not a to becoming the emperor of

44:22

the long Roman emperor right? That's crazy to

44:25

think about the he will never leave their

44:27

town in the sun. And

44:29

then money. We've. Talked

44:31

about really the brains behind

44:33

everything and a successor of

44:36

Margaret of Austria. And

44:39

the middle catalina. We say was

44:41

imprisoned with her mother and then later

44:43

on became Queen of Portugal. Don't

44:46

feel that sorry for her. She doesn't have

44:48

a good life on earth and she becomes amazing.

44:50

She because she's clean in Portugal and we

44:52

used to say that put you have an. Employer

44:54

to this to see

44:56

who could you please?

44:59

Incredibly important. For the dissemination

45:01

of all the stuff, it's coming

45:03

from exotic places. And

45:05

as I mean as is is is there.

45:07

She's also painted by I'm from is. More

45:09

he wanted his or her. You

45:11

visit the Burden Museum. In. Real

45:14

Sixty Six a lot of the paintings

45:16

or of these people because they are

45:18

by anthony's know who the painter at

45:21

this time so he. Sent to

45:23

the quoted Lucentis food. Says earning

45:25

the Catherine avast chef. Then he says

45:27

a man to see Mary. Two years

45:29

and then. He painted daily of and

45:31

he's painted anything really people sell. When

45:34

you go to the training museum this

45:36

summer I'm sure you will see people

45:38

to the minds of the shoes or

45:40

and curb know I would recommend to

45:42

buy your tickets beforehand. Ah you can

45:44

go to the room and almost be

45:47

like. Think. In a conversation

45:49

with them because the answer is more such.

45:51

A good fortresses or mean. You

45:54

can you can say i know what would you

45:56

do my best you like as it is more

45:58

har Homa Rebecca. Oh, I don't

46:01

know. I'm pretty partial. The Holbein. Really?

46:03

Or maybe that's the subject matter more

46:06

than anything. This. All the English you

46:08

know cause he really to me brought the tutor

46:10

court to life so I can I have a.

46:12

Hard. Time nights voting him. Yeah,

46:16

I think their fear of

46:18

the past and. To

46:22

the. United

46:24

States is that we have.

46:26

Yes, I can see. Have

46:29

put on Son is more the my

46:31

through these women. And. The my

46:33

god, that museum and Madrid. the more the

46:36

more I'm in love with it because these

46:38

portraits I think maybe. When. We

46:40

got a major and and you see it ask

46:42

you the question again where the as may maybe

46:44

I'll change my mind. I do like the ports

46:47

are that he did a very that I've seen.

46:49

Is very talented so maybe I was

46:51

in one who is interested in that

46:54

courtroom. Dozen or so proud. On the

46:56

website they have a very cool video

46:58

of It's restoration. Because. That

47:00

poetry listen to. This is is that

47:02

cool anecdote ah that's quoted with to

47:04

him by to the system Use this.

47:08

Alone in his final retirements when

47:10

he advocates. And. Mary

47:12

Tudor becomes Queen of Spain

47:14

is nuts. Know forget. Really?

47:17

The successor of trying to save. His

47:20

i the bomb today is may suit or

47:22

because she is. Queen. Of England.

47:25

Ireland. And then know

47:27

France and all those titles that they

47:29

like to put their but they have

47:31

them and then she because she's not

47:33

such as a this trip to the

47:36

that she's down and then she becomes

47:38

queen of the sinus monarchy. It's

47:41

she would admit. She.

47:44

Would have been the most powerful woman. On

47:47

Earth. For. A long time. And.

47:49

How they would have had a child. I

47:52

don't know nothing about it. I said

47:54

this is Alabama of them, had to

47:56

the time I'm not suffer. No,

47:59

His. We're not have been. I know you. Won't.

48:03

You. Think we would have named them. That's

48:08

true and they would. I named

48:11

her. Catherine has integrated into the

48:13

rural and look at that made

48:15

as. Is a grade would have been can the

48:17

sent him. There is a. Oh

48:21

Allah, I love it when you come on

48:24

the cells so it's time for your take

48:26

away. What is the take away for today?

48:30

Ah, a nod or not, we can't. Believe

48:35

me when, we still have too. Much

48:39

about cats environment I think today the

48:41

that the know I was rather impress.

48:43

you really controlled yourself to that a.

48:47

Male because I know, let me think

48:49

about something really cool between them and

48:51

ah, less chances are that. love. The

48:53

soft I didn't mention are a couple

48:56

times obviously. Last season

48:58

although. Was. In

49:00

concert with. Move.

49:04

Move From home. From

49:06

the cooler for the road her

49:09

alive. In the face and I've mentioned this

49:11

again for we have. To pursue this in

49:13

our brands right and him say hi

49:15

to. Everyone, even Henry and then

49:17

finding those stairs and bowing down

49:19

to his aunts. I'm going

49:21

to repeat: listen to people realize what is nice.

49:24

When. And Emperor of the Holy Roman

49:26

Empire had been in England. And.

49:29

When he doesn't arise, he says i do

49:31

The King of England Yes Sir. And

49:34

then he goes and meals and fun of

49:36

who's in charge here. Is this a civilian?

49:38

Sharp pray and he's a Holy Roman Emperor.

49:40

Who's since I had to pay rate. who

49:43

should Really bout anybody right? Right

49:45

other than it is a part of

49:47

it does. This is that birth sign

49:49

of utmost respect because he's doing is

49:52

amazing work Of all the doors of

49:54

this my take away all the daughters

49:56

of his have. Enough. Is fair

49:58

really tougher than. The.

50:01

One that is her herb continue

50:03

later and charles the fifth new.

50:05

this. It. Was I looking

50:07

at his grandmother? Really? that's why thing He

50:09

was so impressed to. I'm encountering.

50:12

You have to. You know, look

50:14

impressive. She was tiny, but she

50:16

was mighty. About

50:18

that ah see I did talk about can

50:20

log onto the other guy but you had

50:23

to get around Myra the and a little

50:25

bit more and what kind of Catherine light

50:27

so hopes of then I was watching from

50:29

their from London ready. To put the

50:31

security. Come to London as well

50:33

as to get an update meter but

50:35

though he did excusing you would have

50:38

gone they sigma our. Know.

50:41

Course. He went twice now. Though.

50:43

That's my take away. More or less

50:46

power to cast modern on. So.

50:49

Catherine Team Catherine all the way

50:51

I suffer. Any map of this

50:53

isn't always the doctor Ama Thanks

50:56

again for going on today to

50:58

Mecca and great big ice. The

51:01

Junior Sadness the Podcast.