Hackney-based lo-fi minimalist rocker Hannah Lovell talks to Tupocopod about how dreams become songs and how songs might help you become your dreams. Also about dips and not shopping at Waitrose. 

She engages gamefully in our taxing word-association challenge - but admits to sweating at the elbows with the stress.

• Lovell on Facebook  - where you can find out about gigs and merchandise including spectacular Lovell bumbags.
• Lovell on youtube.
• Instagram: @lovellsongs

Tupocopod is created and produced by Phil and Adam or Mop Head and Don Diego. Email us about artists and venues you think we should have on the show.