October 20-26, 1979

Today Ken welcomes musician Josh Caterer (The Smoking Popes, Duval) to the show.

Ken and Josh discuss early afternoon punk rock matinees, WKRP in Cincinnati, shows evolving past their pilot episodes, gay characters on television, Barney Miller, The NEW WKRP, Hugh Wilson, The Famous Teddy Z, Bait and Switch, KISS, The Clash, Andy Capp, loving substance abusers, Cheers, anti-authoritarians, punk rock on TV, Dragnet, Mr. Rogers, a life of kindness, cycles of maturity, not enjoying life until you are about 30, The Brady Bunch, Jim Henson, The Museum of the Moving Image, The Monkees, The Young Ones, The New Monkees, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, Ted Knight, why you can't argue with Cloris Leachman, rock music on TV, having a lifelong passion for music, culture clashes, Sylvia Sidney, Doctor Who, Tom Baker, appreciating a slowness in visual media, hindsight, What's New Pussycat?, wanting to be Peter O'Toole, Twin Peaks, hating Twin Peaks: The Return, why Cheers may be the best theme song, David Lynch's body of work, The Straight Story, Better Call Saul, and why The Twilight Zone made a generation of people better people.