In this episode of the Tweaking Optimism Podcast, I am joined by Paul VanderKlay. As a pastor and YouTuber, he has spent many years having tough conversations over a wide variety of controversial topics. Not only has he been having the conversations, but he has been having them effective, which can be attested to by the hundreds of hours of content on his YouTube Channel. Throughout the show, we talk about politically divisive conversations, Christian ethics, and moral role models.