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Alrighty.

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So the twist history

2:03

of revenge is what you just

2:05

tuned into, and it's myself. It's

2:08

John Kelly. It's somebody beeping their

2:10

horn outside and it's Jeff Hibbert.

2:13

No Jack Coleman today. I believe he's at

2:15

fat camp, and then Annie is at his time.

2:17

Jack's actually in pretty good shape. And then

2:20

no Saint Anne, although she was integral in

2:22

getting this stuff together for me as

2:24

always. Revenge.

2:26

Before we get started, because I'll say John, your hair

2:28

looks great. Oh, it's good to be back. I've been on

2:31

hiatus for a while. We've moved this up. It's

2:33

good

2:33

to be back with the boys. Yes. Yeah. And

2:35

I What is my hair doing? I haven't seen Oh, I don't know

2:37

if you heard in the Large

2:39

said you wouldn't got hair plugs. And we're just Oh, I mean, that

2:41

was just something we were running with. Yes. Yes. Absolutely.

2:44

I mean, you I would

2:45

can't be good luck. I would love them if John

2:47

Moss is here. Yeah. That would be the best case scenario. No.

2:49

He'd still have a he has a great beard so we could shave

2:51

it. He has probably has a perfectly fucking

2:53

shaped head. Yeah. As do I? got no complaints

2:55

of my shapehead. Well, we were on the we were sitting

2:58

in front of a camera today, and we could see the back angle

3:00

of your head. And he said, looks like a pack of Frankfurt.

3:02

If I if I look up, the back of my head

3:04

looks like a pack of franks. But otherwise, I have

3:06

zero regrets about about shaving

3:08

my head. I don't I don't mind that at all. I I think

3:10

you look I think it's the way to go. Yes. Some

3:12

people I mean, they shaved their heads,

3:15

and it's not only jarring, but their heads

3:17

themselves look like they were chewed

3:19

by by a by a dinosaur. Yeah.

3:21

Unicorn. either be to be honest

3:23

with you. So no regrets. Revenge.

3:27

I think it's a great topic. Revenge

3:29

is a great topic. I don't know if

3:31

I've ever really taken revenge out

3:34

on anyone person. Is there any kind of

3:36

revenge story in your past? This

3:37

ain't gotta think about it for a second.

3:40

Think about it for a second. I love being petty.

3:43

Yes. So being petty, I love revenge.

3:45

I love a good revenger

3:47

story. Okay. Like putting the toothbrush

3:50

up your ass or something and then leaving it

3:52

in the rack, that type of thing.

3:54

That doesn't get me doesn't get me going

3:56

really. You know, like, putting a straw

3:58

down your pants and, like, putting in someone's drink

4:00

somewhere. I I want them to That's

4:02

more pranky. Right? That's It's

4:05

a good revenge there. It's good Right. I want them to I

4:07

want them to lose everything. It's not enough for me to

4:09

be successful. I have to see them lose everything. Right. They

4:11

need to be homeless on street feeding

4:14

their kids with gutter

4:16

water. I think it's interesting that you bring

4:18

that up because some of the stuff that we're gonna

4:20

talk about is downright illegal.

4:22

I remember that I had somebody in my neighborhood

4:24

that I just didn't like. We recently moved

4:26

so was by the old house. We just didn't like

4:28

him for a bunch of reasons. and this

4:30

whole family was

4:32

a fucking pariah. And

4:34

all I wanted to do was absolutely

4:38

beat

4:38

the dad to death. Mhmm. You know what

4:40

I mean? Like, that was one of the things where I was like,

4:42

where can I get a good vantage point?

4:44

Where I wouldn't be in his cameras

4:47

where I can shoot out as windows, like that

4:49

type of thing. Or where could I do something

4:51

to wear it? So I still walk the dogs

4:54

past his house. I'd ordered from Amazon.

4:56

And every day, as I was walking

4:59

dogs past his house, I would just casually throw

5:01

carrot seeds on his front lawn. just

5:03

casually throw carot seeds on its front lawn.

5:05

And I never followed through with it.

5:07

I don't know, but I did it the right time of year at

5:10

everything per you know, and obviously beautifully

5:12

manicured lawn, which he did himself.

5:15

And I just can envision that at some

5:17

point when these weeds started to sprout,

5:19

and he would go and pull his weeds and to see carrots

5:21

on the other end of him, to me that tickled me

5:23

pink for some reason. That's that's kinda cool.

5:26

It's petty though. know what I mean? petty. Yeah.

5:28

But I I think today we're gonna

5:30

get this stuff that's much less

5:32

petty.

5:33

Some of it's downright murderous. Right?

5:36

Because it's a twisted history of revenge.

5:38

I think

5:38

we're gonna do two of these because

5:40

all this is a story after story.

5:43

I mean,

5:43

that's that's the back and forth we're gonna have to have

5:45

today, whether or not this was worth it, whether or

5:47

not it was justified, whether or not you agree

5:49

with it. But that's all that it can be. Stories

5:51

after Stories, because I can't say you know,

5:53

the the nature of the word revenge and, you know, what

5:55

was the first act of revenge and all that kind of shit.

5:58

So we're just gonna get into it. And we've done

5:59

it before.

6:01

I've given Vipps way too much credit

6:04

with with

6:05

Frederick Barbarossa -- Yeah. --

6:07

who operation Barbarossa was named

6:09

after. and I used to shit on the

6:11

guy, holy Roman Emperor. Right? He was holy Roman

6:13

Emperor. Mhmm. And he was a mid eleven

6:15

hundred stirred the crusades. and it winds

6:17

up that the guy, he drowned in way

6:19

deep water. So always thought of him as kind of

6:22

like like almost like an afterthought.

6:24

I think he did he have his armor on? He had,

6:26

like, two headed but

6:28

he had a story where when he was,

6:30

like, he was in the process of seizing

6:33

Milan in Italy, in eleven

6:35

forty eight. Mhmm. And while he was away,

6:37

his wife, the emperor's Beatrice, was

6:40

taken captive by enraged

6:42

Melanese people. Chicken Millenet is one

6:44

of my favorite dishes. And she was forced to

6:46

ride through the city facing backwards

6:49

on a donkey in a humiliating

6:51

manner. kinda reminds me of that shame

6:54

that he was driving out. Yeah. And

6:56

then when Barbara Rosa came back

6:58

and saw what happened, he

7:01

forced the magistrates of the city

7:04

that he thought was in charge of what had happened to

7:07

his wife. he'd captured these

7:09

guys and

7:10

he forced them to remove a fig

7:12

from the asshole of a donkey

7:15

using only their teeth. I know I just told

7:17

this story recently, but I think that's a good

7:19

revenge story. And it said

7:21

that the

7:22

the gesture called Fico. When

7:24

you do that, I got your nose, gesture. Fico,

7:27

you do that. It's supposed to be Like,

7:30

that's where I got it's it's

7:32

urgent. That's the that's the insult.

7:34

So the I got your nose was originally

7:36

from a holy Roman emperor getting revenge

7:38

upon the disc race of his wife by

7:41

making men and Milan eat shit out of

7:43

a donkey's ass. That's a good

7:45

revenge story. I

7:46

think. Do we know who puts the plumb the

7:48

fig in the the ass. Isn't that

7:50

a job? It's a tough job. Yeah.

7:52

But think that's that's a perfect

7:56

example of targeted

7:59

revenge. We had

7:59

a story. We had two stories from Skidmore,

8:02

Missouri. which isn't a big town.

8:04

I called it Skidmore Mizuho. Like,

8:06

I that's how I and people came at

8:08

me. We don't use Mizuho and we only use

8:10

it in in terms with the football team or

8:13

the university. So I won't do it again. I

8:15

apologize people of Missouri,

8:17

but Skipmore, Missouri is

8:19

a a town on the smaller side

8:22

considered

8:22

this much considering this metropolis

8:24

wear in here. And there was an asshole named

8:26

Ken McElroy who lived in town.

8:29

He was suspected of theft,

8:31

livestock, rust, like burglary arson

8:33

assault rape and child molestation. Not

8:36

a good guy. Almost

8:38

like like an after school

8:40

special like like a biff from

8:42

back to the future type, you

8:44

know, local fucking bully. Yeah. Bullied.

8:46

Yeah.

8:47

Bad dude. He was charged twenty

8:49

one times in theft case

8:51

cases, but was said to avoid conviction

8:54

through witness intimidation either

8:56

by direct confrontation or by simply parking

8:58

his truck outside their home. Actually

9:00

shot a guy too who was a witness at one point.

9:03

And then when he was thirty two, he

9:05

raped a twelve year old girl named Trina McCloud.

9:08

and to avoid the statutory rape charges,

9:11

he divorced his wife at the time, Alice,

9:13

and then married Trina when she was fourteen

9:15

and pregnant with their baby. And

9:17

that's that thing. You you marry your victim.

9:19

That's that rape loophole. Mhmm. So she's

9:21

twelve or thirteen when he raped her.

9:23

Fourteen when married her and they

9:26

had a kid together. Just a bad

9:28

guy. So all this stuff is

9:30

bubbling up with these good town

9:32

folk. of Skidmore, Missouri.

9:35

They just hate the dude.

9:36

And finally, the

9:38

bubble bursts. And

9:40

on the morning of July tenth nineteen eighty

9:42

one, a mob of forty six angry

9:44

town residents surrounded McElroy

9:46

as he attempted to smoke a cigarette in his pickup

9:48

truck. Several bullets

9:51

were fired into the vehicle, and Ken

9:53

was fatally shot twice by two

9:55

different guns. and the crowd

9:57

of forty six witnesses saw nothing. And

9:59

that's

9:59

why I liked this story so much.

10:02

No one saw a thing. No one called an ambulance.

10:04

No one even turned off his truck. Most

10:06

said that they were in a nearby bar, and

10:09

when they heard the shots go off, they

10:11

jumped under the pool table and didn't see a

10:13

thing. Now the joke is that Skidmore,

10:15

Missouri has the biggest possible table

10:17

in Nadeau County because forty

10:19

people plus could fit under it that day.

10:22

all those people either couldn't identify the assailant

10:24

or said they didn't see the incident, local prosecutors

10:27

denied to press charges, and even

10:29

the federal investigation that

10:32

was brought up. Nothing came of it.

10:34

Since then, the FBI conducted almost a

10:36

hundred separate investigations and

10:38

was unable to locate a sliver

10:40

of evidence linking anyone to

10:42

McElroy's untimely death,

10:44

all because the residents of Skidmore

10:47

refused to speak on this targeted

10:49

actor revenge. That's a happy ending.

10:52

You got a for forty forty

10:56

six people to say that they saw nothing,

10:58

that's Impressive.

10:59

I think

11:01

it's easy. Right? If you if you're in a small town

11:04

and you know that this guy is that bad of a dude,

11:06

I think you get pretty tight lipped. The two

11:08

guns that were used get destroyed right

11:10

away, but you know what? You're

11:12

actually right and I'm wrong. Forty six people.

11:15

Forty

11:15

six. You you gotta think one of those investigations

11:17

-- Yeah. -- one of those people are, hey, I don't wanna go to

11:19

jail. Like Right. Yeah. Must've been the

11:21

worst federal investigators even

11:23

the wife.

11:25

had sued. Ken's wife

11:27

had sued for, like, thirteen million dollars

11:29

or something like that. And she wound

11:31

up being awarded seventeen thousand. for

11:33

her problems. So that was another thing that we'd

11:36

gone by as far as revenge.

11:38

And then probably one of the more famous ones

11:40

not before we had told the story, but since we

11:43

told the story was tank girl. Her name is

11:45

Maria Vasylanca, Akteibraskaya.

11:48

and her husband was killed in World War

11:50

two. So

11:51

when her husband was killed in World War two as

11:53

a soldier, she sold everything that

11:55

she owned. and she bought a tank.

11:58

She named the tank, fighting

11:59

girlfriend, and she set off to kill

12:01

as many Nazis as humanly possible. She

12:04

was rushing. So a Russian woman

12:06

husband gets killed, sells all their

12:09

belongings, and buys a fucking

12:11

tank. But you can't just go to war

12:13

when you feel like particularly as a woman

12:15

in Russia during World War two. So

12:17

she wrote a letter to Stalin. This

12:19

is what the letter said. My husband was

12:21

killed in action defending the motherland. I

12:24

want revenge on the fascist

12:26

dogs for his death and

12:28

for the death of the Soviet people tortured

12:31

by the fascist barbarians. For

12:33

this purpose, I've deposited all

12:36

my personal savings, fifty

12:38

thousand rubles, to the national

12:40

bank in order to build a tank. I

12:42

kindly asked to name the tank fighting

12:45

girlfriend and send me to the front

12:47

line as a driver of the tank.

12:49

Sent that to Stalin. Joe's

12:51

right now. Yeah. And Stalin

12:53

read it and said, done. And sent her

12:55

with very little training sent her

12:57

right to the front line. And

12:59

when she got to the front line, she

13:01

did exactly what she wanted to do

13:04

to catch revenge for her fallen

13:06

husband. She killed fucking Nazis.

13:09

Her first, I

13:11

don't know, assignment The

13:13

tank broke down. She got out in the middle of

13:15

the battle, fixed it, got back then, killed

13:17

more Germans, got a medal in a promotion.

13:20

The second battle that she was in

13:22

Same thing kinda happened except this time it was

13:25

like tread damage to the tank. When she got

13:27

out, she got hit by shrapnel in the head,

13:29

some shell fragments. She was transported

13:32

to Soviet military field hospital where

13:34

she remained in a coma for two months before

13:36

finally dying in nineteen forty four.

13:38

And

13:38

the following August, Akti

13:41

Braskaya was posthumously made

13:43

a hero of the Soviet Union, which is

13:45

whatever one of the highest metals that you can get.

13:48

That's revenge. I don't know if you're ever

13:50

gonna get married. I think you will. At some point,

13:53

Vipps, I am married. I get killed in

13:55

war, and he's not selling everything we

13:57

know. everything we have to go get a fucking

13:59

tag. It's

13:59

just not gonna happen. Probably finding someone else.

14:02

Yeah. Yeah. I mean Yeah.

14:04

Yeah. So that's the type of stories that

14:07

we mean when we mean historic revenge

14:09

stories, I would think. Right? Those are good

14:11

examples of ones that we've gone through before.

14:14

So for the rest of this hour or so,

14:16

I'm

14:16

gonna tell you some stuff from history and probably

14:19

for the next episode too. What's up, Johnny?

14:21

Also, maybe the the early ad. How

14:24

would've been story? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. story.

14:27

There's a lot of gladiators, probably

14:29

a fictional one, but I I think No.

14:32

There's real isn't the real stuff

14:34

in the gladiator? Isn't it, like, based on a Gladiator

14:36

is based on a on a true story as his

14:38

Braveheart. Right? Like So you

14:40

have All those classic listen,

14:43

there were lot more revenge movies

14:45

back when I was growing up. It

14:47

was all death wish and all that

14:49

stuff. they've kind of gotten a little bit

14:51

more, I don't know,

14:53

cerebral, and they make more sense,

14:55

but I love them. I I love them except

14:57

for the fact that they usually start with a rape. Otherwise,

15:00

I I love those. I watch a dab of

15:02

revenge movie the other day. Nine to five. Dolly

15:04

Parton and the gang. One hundred percent

15:07

known as revenge movie. When I looked up the greatest

15:09

revenge movies of all time, nine to

15:11

five was on there. really. One hundred percent.

15:13

Yeah. One hundred percent. You've been watching

15:15

this in a classic. Oh, yeah. I've been going to the seventies

15:17

and eighties. really has. Yeah. But

15:22

no. I forget what I was gonna say. I'm I was Daphne

15:24

Coleman. Well compliment. I'm so

15:27

flustered. Yeah. How was the movie with Dolly Parton?

15:29

It was solid. Oh, that was what I was gonna say. I feel

15:31

like nine to five

15:34

crawled. So office space. could

15:36

walk. Oh, but it's kind of like a office

15:39

space. Another classic revenge show.

15:41

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get back at them, steal the money

15:43

from the company, find them. They're a corporate thing.

15:45

But It

15:46

was I

15:47

guess it's okay. I'm thinking about it

15:49

a little bit more. That was a little self serving. Right?

15:51

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like the expansion of

15:53

it. Right. Yeah. just kinda I thought we're nine to

15:55

five. They have those, like, fantasies of of hunting

15:58

the boss and everyone is in on it. No. It's

15:59

the the corporate Yeah.

16:01

The employees versus the boss. And it was true grit.

16:04

You've seen the Western. So -- Yeah. -- some good revenge

16:06

to Actually, watch that the other day. The

16:08

the reiteration of it or whatever, the remake of

16:10

it with that young girl.

16:12

That's interesting that you watched a movie of the day that wasn't

16:15

due to a rabbit. You know, I told you, a hundred times

16:17

a lot. tried to get through that thing. can get Oh,

16:19

really? Yeah. I can get through to her. Yeah.

16:21

I tried it on a plane. Mhmm. And by the

16:23

way, blame one of our sponsors for

16:26

that because I have a tough time getting

16:28

through anything once I I hit that

16:30

vape pen now. Oh, my baby just didn't like

16:32

it. No. No. It seemed like it was very good. And I I

16:34

mean, I think it's something I tried to watch it once

16:36

at home. I fell asleep. I just put it on it's way too

16:38

late. So I put it on to the phone, got on

16:40

a plane, I don't know where the hell I was going, and

16:42

I I was out like a lie. out like a light.

16:44

Sometimes you just he get that in your fucking brain. Let's

16:47

just when we peep when a movie

16:49

when

16:49

we're tired and we watch a movie, let's just say we were

16:51

tired. Let's stop saying movies were bad. I do

16:53

that right time where Michael, that movie sucked. Yes. Sounds

16:55

like, well, I was also, like, I fell asleep like thirty minutes

16:58

into it. One hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. So

17:00

that's why I I don't don't dism like

17:03

Jojo rabbit. We'll watch it together. You can't pause

17:05

it. Yeah. There's a movie out

17:07

called Walking Tall. It's an older movie

17:09

with the rock in it, and it's a remake of

17:12

a show that's even further back, which was

17:14

a remake of a movie, which is even further

17:16

back. So all the Walking Tall

17:18

narratives were based around one man.

17:20

your taillights out. No, it's not.

17:23

No, it is. That was hard. Rock

17:25

the rock and I think Johnny Knoxville was in

17:28

that one. Giant Knoxville was like the the wacky

17:30

cookie companion and a lot of those for

17:32

a while. But so it's all based

17:34

on a guy who's a real life guy and his name

17:36

was Beaufort Pusser. Terrible name.

17:39

Horrible. Beaufort Pouser. Tough

17:41

name to go through. His

17:43

wife was killed in shooting by Southern mobsters.

17:46

And like I said, it was adapted

17:48

into several different venues,

17:51

TV and movies. Right? For most of his

17:53

life, this guy, this real life guy, a big guy

17:55

like me, Pusser made his career in public

17:58

service. Before he was a police

17:59

officer, Beaufort Pusser served

18:02

as a marine and

18:03

later enjoyed a popular wrestling

18:06

stint in Chicago. His

18:08

tall frame and large build earned

18:10

him the nickname Beaufort the Bull.

18:12

He

18:12

stood six foot six inches and

18:15

weighed over two hundred and fifty pounds. For

18:17

one promotion, he wrestled a declawed

18:20

grizzly bear and

18:21

one. So that's who this guy is.

18:23

He was a big s kicker. So

18:26

he goes from Chicago. But in Chicago, he

18:28

met his future wife. Her name was Pauline. they

18:30

got married two years later. And they

18:32

wound up moving back to Beaufort's

18:35

hometown in McNear County,

18:37

Tennessee where Pusser quickly

18:39

rose through the ranks of local

18:41

law enforcement, and

18:43

he was elected chief of police

18:45

and constable and

18:46

later he was elected county sheriff

18:49

at only twenty seven years old,

18:51

making him the youngest sheriff ever

18:53

elected in the history of the great

18:56

state of Tennessee where I'm heading tomorrow,

18:58

by the way, most in that NASCAR thing tomorrow.

19:00

So Beaufort Passa He

19:02

met the love of his life in Chicago while he

19:04

was a wrestler after he was a marine. He goes

19:06

down to Tennessee, and he's now chief of

19:08

police at twenty seven, and he's a big ass

19:11

kicker. It wound up that this young

19:13

sheriff was fearless and wasted no time

19:15

cracking down on mafia activity.

19:17

mafia activity concentrating on

19:19

the state border between Tennessee and Mississippi,

19:22

which was controlled by two separate gangs.

19:24

The Dixie mafia and the state

19:27

line mob. The mob gangs

19:29

made a lot of money off their illegal

19:31

production of moonshine, so pusher's

19:33

crackdown was obviously not appreciated.

19:36

This guy took on the Dixie

19:38

mafia. In nineteen sixty seven

19:40

oh, by nineteen sixty seven, he

19:42

survived countless assassination attempts.

19:45

killing several of the hitmen who try to take

19:47

him out. He was a local hero to the public,

19:49

but he became a prime target for

19:52

this increasingly desperate mob.

19:54

During

19:54

his time as sheriff, he jailed

19:57

over seventy five hundred criminals. He

19:59

was stabbed himself seven times,

20:01

and he was shot eight times. like

20:03

fifty cent type things. Mhmm. But

20:05

things changed forever on August twelve nineteen

20:07

sixty seven when his wife, Pauline, said,

20:10

hey, can I go along on a ride a ride

20:12

with you? Like, when I was answering something,

20:14

what do they call ride along? Right along. Yeah.

20:16

I go along on a ride. What's that called? A

20:18

ride along. So she went to

20:21

a ride along with him to

20:23

inspect the roadside disturbance. And

20:26

when they did, it was a setup. A

20:28

car pulled up alongside them, and

20:30

suddenly opened fire. Beaufort

20:33

got shot in the jaw, but survived.

20:36

His wife wasn't so lucky and she

20:38

was killed. after

20:40

a stint in the hospital and

20:42

fourteen plastic surgeries later.

20:44

Like I say, he got shot in the jaw, it absolutely

20:47

demolished his jaw. So fourteen

20:49

surgeries later, his mutilated jaw

20:51

was repaired, and Beaufort Pusser

20:53

went back to work where he cracked down on crime

20:56

even harder than before. he

20:58

publicly named his four assassins and

21:01

Kirksey McChord Knicks junior.

21:03

Knicks is such a popular name. Right? Every other

21:05

fucking you know, who's is it Arkin.

21:08

Arkin's got Bonyx now as quarterback.

21:10

The Knicks is pretty popular name down there.

21:12

And so this guy, Kirksey McChord, Nick's

21:14

Junior. He was the leader of the Dixie mafia

21:17

Buford named him as the mastermind behind

21:20

the hit that killed his wife. So

21:22

that's how revenge stories start. Right?

21:24

Your wife get gunned down by the Dixie

21:26

mafia. Although

21:27

Knicks himself never saw justice

21:30

for Pauline Pusser's murder, he

21:32

was later sent life in prison for

21:34

the murder of a Mississippi circuit court

21:36

judge. But the other assassins

21:38

who are involved in the murder of Pusser's wife

21:41

mysteriously disappeared one

21:43

by one. And this weather event comes

21:45

in. Right? Rumors rumor circulated

21:47

that Foster had organized hits on the mafia

21:49

members tovenge his wife, but because

21:51

there was no evidence to time to the debts

21:53

personally and possibly because no one

21:56

was gonna prosecute Beaufort Pusser

21:58

for avenging his murdered wife, pusher

22:01

was never charged for the killings. Then

22:03

in nineteen seventy four, he died

22:05

in an automobile accident. And

22:07

among the throngs of

22:09

people who attended his funeral,

22:11

Elvis Presley was there, which is kind of

22:14

fucking cool. The Beaufort Pousser

22:16

Museum was established at the homie lived

22:18

in at the time of his death in nineteen seventy four,

22:20

and the Beaufort Pousser Festival is

22:22

held each May in his hometown

22:24

of Adamsville, Tennessee. So

22:26

walking tall is based on a true story,

22:29

and that true story is about a big

22:31

fucking ass and a Beaufort Pusser who

22:33

took on the Dixie mob, kinda lost because his

22:35

wife died, but killed everybody that was involved.

22:37

Not a bad lower event story, right? I

22:40

wouldn't mind if my wife died and I gotta have, like, a

22:42

sweet hero revenge story. And what I mean? It'd

22:45

be it'd be it'd be fourteen plastic surgeries.

22:47

should look different and have a new set of downs.

22:49

I could use a cool scar. Yeah. I'd be like,

22:51

do fifteen to put some hair on me. Hell yeah.

22:53

Not that I want any to be dead. No. No.

22:56

No. But if

22:56

she did, I try to make some lemonade out of it. You know

22:59

what I mean? For sure. Yeah. Last night is yes.

23:01

Have you seen all of the walking dolls? I

23:03

used to watch I could say, walk in tall.

23:06

They're putting strangers on their run.

23:08

I'm walking tall. Feeling proud. I used to

23:10

watch it. I think every week, I think

23:12

maybe the guy who played him was

23:14

like Joe Don Baker or something.

23:16

I remember that name. But

23:18

yeah, it was I believe it was

23:20

a TV series.

23:22

After it was a movie, then it became

23:24

a movie again. But I remember watching Walking

23:26

Tall religiously. So I think

23:28

I've seen everything that's involved with Beaufort Pusser.

23:31

Terrible fucking name. Every time I see

23:33

it, I feel like saying, like, don't know. It

23:35

looks like pusher? Yeah. Oh, I

23:38

would rather be pusher if if I was saying

23:40

pusher is Right. III

23:42

agree. I guess. Even like pusher,

23:44

You don't even go to posting sireable. Sucks.

23:47

Joaquin Moretta. So

23:50

wind up, this is the guy that inspired Zoro.

23:53

And again, these stories kinda overlap.

23:55

The first two are like local

23:57

legends. This was a guy who

24:00

was He

24:02

was living in California around

24:05

the time of the gold rush. For people

24:07

who don't remember, Cal for

24:09

you was fast track to become a state in nineteen

24:11

fifty, excuse me, eighteen fifty, and

24:13

it was by the guy who spoke about the great compromises

24:16

Henry Clay. Alright? Once they found

24:18

gold in them, their hills in nineteen forty

24:20

eight, California was fast tracked

24:22

to be a a US state by nineteen

24:24

fifty. but it wasn't cool then

24:27

to be a Mexican living in California.

24:29

The Mexican American war just ended,

24:31

so they were, like, subjected to

24:33

some serious shit from the

24:35

people who all of a sudden moved into

24:38

a place where they were living before. So

24:40

Joaquin Marietta is one of those guys.

24:43

And

24:44

Like,

24:45

so this is one of those things where he was tied to

24:47

a chair as his wife was raped and

24:49

murdered right in front of him

24:51

by white men. Mhmm. And then he and his

24:53

brother were falsely

24:55

accused of stealing a horse. So

24:58

he and his brother were both hanged,

25:00

but somehow he had survived, but his brother

25:03

was killed. So he decided to

25:05

become this revenge

25:08

story, which wound

25:10

up becoming the Zoro

25:12

story. And he he took he

25:14

be he he had like a gang. So there

25:16

was one of the recruits in this in this

25:19

gang, which would then go and steal

25:21

gold from Earth's White people and return

25:23

it to the poor, like that classic Robinhood story.

25:25

Mhmm. One of the members of his gang was three

25:28

finger Jack. Three fingered

25:30

Jack Garcia, who lost two fingers

25:32

in a firefight during the Mexican American

25:34

War. Together, they targeted American

25:36

miners routing them up like cattle before

25:38

murdering them and then plundering their

25:40

gold. Right? Words soon got out that

25:42

Marietta's gang were pillaging American

25:44

miners and then giving the loot to max

25:46

AND FAMILIES, SWAKE AND MARIETA

25:49

QUICKLY BECAME A LOCAL LEGIONS. HIS

25:52

HIS BANDATES BECAME SO FEARED THAT

25:54

THE GOVERNMENT finally put a bounty

25:56

on his head. He was later killed

25:58

in a gunfight between

25:59

his gang and a group of California

26:02

Rangers. that was led by a military

26:04

veteran named Henry Love.

26:07

When

26:07

Henry Love came in, by the way Henry Love was

26:09

an interesting story. Hey. Harry Love? Oh,

26:11

Harry Love. I'm sorry. Yes. Yes. Harry Love. Thank you

26:13

for that. When they killed him,

26:15

think about this. It's in, you know, when so

26:18

it's eighteen the late eighteen hundreds.

26:20

Right? So when Harry kills

26:22

this guy, who

26:24

is like a local Mexican legend,

26:26

as all these white people are starting to move in

26:28

and are like, what the hell is going on? I need to be

26:30

protected. so they cut off Murray

26:32

at his head. They cut off Murray

26:35

at his head, and they pickled it in

26:37

the jar and they would take

26:39

that around and pay people a buck

26:41

to see it. Murray at his head

26:43

and three finger Jack's hands were

26:46

both pickled in jars that were

26:48

paraded around and put on for

26:50

display. They went to Mariposa stocked

26:53

it in San Francisco all throughout

26:55

California and

26:57

put on display where spectators for

26:59

a dollar could see the remain. A dollar seems like

27:01

it's pretty fucking steep to be honest. Oh,

27:03

they were pickled and brandy by the way also.

27:05

But nevertheless, Marietta's Robinhood reputation

27:08

lived on. His life story was picked up

27:10

by a pulp writer named Johnson McAuley, who

27:12

introduced the American public to the characters

27:14

Zoro which was loosely based off

27:16

Joaquin Marietta. And the famous

27:18

ranger that killed him Harry Love. He

27:21

died while try and this is just totally

27:23

on a on left turn. he died while

27:25

trying to visit his separated wife. He

27:27

and his wife were separated. She wanted

27:29

a divorce, but so she

27:32

had to sue to divorce him. she lost

27:34

it. He tried to come around and visit

27:36

her all the time. She hired a bodyguard.

27:38

He got onto her front porch and he was shot

27:40

dead by her bodyguard. That's how Harry Love

27:43

love killed him. So

27:43

Harry Love had died, but Harry Love is

27:45

the guy that cut the head off of the

27:47

guy who was based on zeroes. Zeroes.

27:50

So Beaufort Pusser walking tall,

27:52

true story. Zoro, based

27:54

on this Mexican vigilante kind

27:57

of a true story. Alright? And

27:59

and by the way,

27:59

Zoro may not re resonate

28:02

with a lot of younger listeners, but Zoro

28:04

was the shit when I was growing up. The lone ranger

28:06

in Zoro. saw Zohu in theaters. They,

28:08

like, remade it. It was pretty Antonio Banderas.

28:10

Yep. Yep. That was awesome. Yeah. So

28:13

we used to watch that shit, man. I'm getting so fucking

28:15

old. And so those are like

28:17

kind of two full heroes. This

28:19

next guy that I'm gonna talk about, and I'm moving

28:21

quickly, but I don't give a shit, was

28:23

just this crazy son of a bitch

28:27

From Granby, Colorado.

28:28

I find that a couple of things tick

28:31

me off quicker.

28:32

Like, if somebody fucks with my kids,

28:35

it's game on. And

28:36

I think that when somebody screws with

28:38

me in traffic, I turn it to something

28:41

a little bit different. I'm a lot less patient

28:43

than I am otherwise. Right? I mean, those

28:45

are two probably places where

28:48

you're more, you know,

28:49

less, Jeff have been little bit crazy. understand.

28:51

You're behind the wheel. You you got the you got

28:54

the power -- Yeah. -- sitting behind a Chevy

28:56

Tahoe.

28:57

And I also, as a

28:59

house owner, I've had to apply to

29:01

my local

29:03

town commission to get, like,

29:06

variances and all this stuff because we built

29:08

a couple of houses, you know, since we've been married

29:10

for so long. and

29:11

it's one of those things that just drives you fucking

29:13

crazy too. It drives you absolutely

29:16

crazy and it causes a tremendous amount

29:18

of hate. not as much hate as this guy Marvin

29:21

Haymire. I'm about to tell you about. He

29:23

owned a small welding shop in

29:25

Granby, Colorado. Right?

29:27

and he built a makeshift bulldozer

29:30

tank in two thousand four

29:32

and wound up plowing through a small town. And

29:34

the reason a zoning dispute. The

29:36

city zoning commission and a concrete company

29:38

wanted to build a plant on his land, and

29:40

he went fucking bananas. This is awesome.

29:43

I think there's a a Netflix documentary

29:45

about this. It's a tank. It's fucking yeah.

29:48

It's exactly it. And it is awesome.

29:50

It's

29:50

awesome. And it winds up being

29:53

kind of a tragic story, but also like a

29:55

happy ending to a certain degree, I'll explain.

29:57

So in order to build their new facility, the concrete

29:59

company

29:59

had purchased a piece of land from Hemeyer

30:02

where his shop was also located. When

30:04

the city zoning commission approved the land for

30:06

construction, Haimara argued that the

30:08

construction blocked him from

30:11

getting into a shop, from having any kind of

30:13

foot traffic into a shop. He petitioned

30:15

the commission to prevent the resigning, but after

30:17

multiple rejections, as well as

30:19

multiple fines for various civil

30:21

violations, they

30:24

just turned him down, and he went absolutely bananas.

30:26

So he spent the next year building

30:29

something that he called the kill dozer. Which

30:31

great name? Great. That's a great name. And

30:33

it it was a customized Komatsu bulldozer

30:36

outfitted with thick steel plate armor

30:39

and a layer of concrete in between.

30:41

And three inch bulletproof plastic

30:44

to protect the cameras he needed to navigate

30:46

the vehicle. His kill dozer was

30:48

also armed with three makeshift

30:51

gun ports, housing a fifty caliber

30:53

rifle, A308 semi

30:55

automatic rifle and a twenty

30:57

two long rifle. There are also fans

30:59

and an air conditioner in there to keep them cool.

31:02

I've

31:02

seen clips of this. Mhmm. Jeff,

31:04

he had built himself a tank

31:07

like poured concrete in

31:09

between thick plating with

31:11

gigantic glass and he's operating

31:13

off of cameras, it was unbelievable

31:16

what and it took him a year. Yeah. And

31:18

so he's in his workshop building this

31:20

this tank and people are kinda coming

31:22

around. He has to keep it a secret. Yeah. But he's

31:24

he's welding these these metal sheets

31:26

and pouring concrete with no one knowing.

31:29

Throwing tarps over it and whatnot,

31:31

but for the most part, people who came around

31:33

saw that he was doing something. Nobody questioned

31:36

it. Nobody

31:36

questioned it until they had to.

31:38

And that was June fourth two thousand

31:41

four. He sealed himself in

31:43

killed those whose cockpit, and he

31:45

drove his machine into town. He

31:47

plowed through the concrete plant next

31:49

to his shop. then

31:50

he made his way towards city hall, wrecking

31:53

a newspaper office, the former

31:55

mayor's home, and every

31:58

business or home that had

31:59

any connection to his

32:01

case against the zoning committee.

32:04

Local authorities tried to destroy the vehicle

32:07

multiple times, but the kill dozer

32:10

prove resistance, proved resistant

32:12

to small arms fire, and

32:14

resistant to explosives. After

32:17

two hours, in seven minutes.

32:20

Hey Meyer cost seven million dollars of damages.

32:23

This is not in a metropolis. Right?

32:25

This isn't in metropolis. This is in

32:27

Granby, Colorado. Right?

32:30

So this is a lot to cause seven

32:32

million dollars in damages. The

32:34

havoc was so great that

32:36

the Colorado governor considered authorizing

32:39

the National Guard to attack

32:41

his killdozer with Apache

32:43

helicopters and

32:45

anti tank missiles. But

32:47

before they got the green light, Haymira's

32:50

rampage ended when he tried

32:52

to go through a hardware store,

32:54

and the hardware store had a sunken basement

32:57

that had snared one of the threads on threads

32:59

on his vehicle So unable to free

33:01

the machine, Haymira's rampage was

33:03

over, and he pulled out a handgun and

33:05

killed himself for the single shot to the head.

33:08

Oh, that's a mouthful. It's a

33:10

fucking mouthful. You turn me down

33:12

or you build something in front of my shop where

33:14

they can't get it. I'm gonna spend a year building

33:16

a kill dozer. I'm gonna go through town

33:19

for

33:20

two hours and seven minutes and

33:22

then kill myself before they bring in the Apache

33:24

hog helicopter. That's a man. Don't

33:26

just sit around don't just sit around and complain,

33:28

do something about it. Go build yourself a kill dozer.

33:31

So that's the tragic part of the story.

33:33

Is that he shot himself? But and

33:35

and when the the investigators found two lists

33:37

inside the cab, one was a list

33:39

of thirteen properties that Hamayar

33:42

had destroyed while another list contains

33:44

several names, including the town's mayor,

33:47

mayor and some local business owners. They

33:49

also found they had no way getting out of

33:51

the sealed cockpit on his own, which

33:53

suggests that he had no intention of

33:55

making it out of this rampage alive, like

33:58

a modern day comikazia. So ports.

34:00

That's that's tragic. Right? Yeah. This guy

34:02

was gonna exact revenge. He knew

34:04

he wasn't gonna get away with it, so he had

34:06

no intents of getting

34:08

away. He's gonna do his damage

34:10

and kill himself, and it's exactly what he

34:12

had done. That's real revenge when you die at

34:14

it. Yeah. You know? You just Yeah. Nigal

34:16

Montoya for the princess bride. I think that's one

34:18

of my favorite revenge things. Right? First

34:20

father's thing. You sent out you killed my my

34:23

name is Nigal Montoya. You killed my father.

34:25

You son of a beach -- Yes. -- prepared to die.

34:27

I think yeah. Yeah. This is the happy ending.

34:29

Two hours and four minutes. seven

34:32

million dollars worth of damage. Multiple

34:34

storefronts raised to the ground.

34:37

Nobody

34:37

was hurt during the bulldozing spree

34:39

except for Haimler himself. And

34:41

the fact of the matter is he can run away

34:43

from a bulldozer. I mean, it's like getting chain chased

34:45

by his dead bone. Very slow. Yeah. So

34:47

nobody got hurt, but seven million dollars

34:50

worth of damage. much. So Hamire is

34:52

one of my favorite Marvin Hamire is one of my favorite

34:54

things of kind of local justice.

34:56

Killdozer. Yeah. Killdozer. I think that's very

34:58

good. I hope you, like, wrote it on the side. Let's

35:01

do Nazis because I always have to. The

35:03

revenge story of Dakau.

35:05

Dakau should ring bell was the first regular

35:07

concentration camp built by the Nazis

35:09

to enslave torture and murdered Jews. It

35:12

was located just north of Munich, and one

35:14

of the camps that bears the infamous slogan,

35:16

albeit mocked free. which

35:18

translates to work sets you free.

35:20

We talked about this. Mhmm. The sign from

35:22

Auschwitz and Dachau, they both had

35:24

the same sign were both stolen at some

35:26

point. life

35:27

for people wanted to keep it as souvenirs, but

35:29

they were also both recovered by authorities

35:31

after the war. But that's what it was known for

35:33

that. Arbet knocked free work

35:35

sets you free. Buckingwald

35:38

concentration camp was one of

35:40

the only Nazi camps with a different

35:42

slogan. Their

35:43

slogan was Jadam Daseen. which

35:45

means to each his own,

35:48

or to each what he deserves.

35:50

So I'll take that to each what he deserves.

35:53

Right? And

35:54

this is a place where Walter Gerehart,

35:56

Martin Somer,

35:57

regarded both Dachau and Buckingwald.

35:59

wall was

36:01

known as the hangman of Bootenwald, but he was

36:03

at Dachau and Bootenwald. And this

36:05

is like a place where he had

36:08

ordered

36:09

Otto Nuerer and Mathias

36:11

span line two Austrian priests to

36:13

be crucified upside down. Like,

36:16

so that I don't have to tell you that

36:18

places like Daqo and Buckingwald were

36:20

bad places, but sometimes I see

36:22

the irony where to

36:24

each what he deserves is

36:26

written and two Austrian priests were crucified

36:29

upside down. Just fucking kills me. Back

36:31

to Duck out. It was a bad place.

36:33

Right? So when American soldiers descended

36:35

on downtown and liberated the camp in

36:37

April twenty ninth nineteen forty five,

36:40

the

36:40

whar's that were perpetrated there were overwhelming.

36:42

We spoke about this. We spoke about that band

36:44

of brothers episode. It's one of the greatest

36:47

episodes I've ever seen they go into the concentration

36:49

camp and it's so kinda eye opening.

36:51

Right? Mounds of corpse littered the

36:53

camp's grounds while the bodies of others rotted

36:55

away and stacks piled up in the railway

36:58

wagons nearby. I don't

36:59

think I had the stomach for that. You

37:01

know what I mean? Like, can you talk about PTSD? If

37:04

I was to have stumbled onto

37:06

Dakau and opened up a

37:08

railroad card. I think about it every now and

37:10

again. It's just bodies upon bodies. Not

37:13

Not even seeing it, just the smell. Oh,

37:15

the smell would ruin me forever. And I

37:17

just I I honestly, god. Band The Brothers

37:19

is one of my favorite shows of all time. I'm

37:21

starting the Pacific on the plane ride

37:23

tomorrow. Hell, yeah. So I'm gonna get to that. feel like

37:25

it. But that one fucking that

37:27

one episode was fantastic. And we spoke

37:29

about it couple times you can find in the other

37:31

twisted histories. So that

37:33

sudden and extreme horror of Dackau

37:36

triggered something in the allied

37:38

troops who threw the formalities of

37:41

surrender out the window. According

37:43

to an account by a survivor named Abramsakar,

37:46

The

37:46

Nazis were rounded up this

37:48

is a quote, the Nazis were rounded up and summarily

37:51

executed along with the guard dogs.

37:53

Two of the most notorious prison guards

37:55

haven't strip naked before the Americans arrived

37:57

to prevent them from slipping away unnoticed, and

38:00

those they too were cut down. This

38:02

isn't right. Right?

38:03

Let's let's take look at it. The kill

38:05

dozer is is adorable. Nobody

38:07

got hurt except for him. everybody

38:09

who's probably insured, so

38:11

we don't mind it. But now we have to start

38:13

thinking about Geneva Convention stuff.

38:15

Right? Like, once you get in there and you have prisoners

38:18

of war, there's a certain protocol that

38:20

needs to take place. Right. Makes you just as bad as

38:22

them if you're doing what they're doing. I guess.

38:24

Right? The the execution of Nazi

38:26

guards was a direct violation of the Geneva

38:29

Convention, so an inquiry was open

38:31

once word spread about the ex about

38:33

the executions. It is book

38:35

DACOU, the hour of the adventure, medical

38:38

officer, colonel Howard, Abieuchner, recounted

38:40

the deliberate killing of five hundred and

38:42

twenty Nazis. So five

38:45

hundred and twenty Nazi prisoners of wars

38:47

buy American soldiers. It's a big

38:49

number and claimed that nineteen american

38:51

soldiers were present or involved

38:53

in the incident. For

38:55

twenty american soldiers to kill

38:57

over five hundred former Nazi

38:59

soldiers that should have been prisoner of

39:01

prisoners of war It's a big number.

39:04

And

39:04

accounts of the Dachau massacre

39:06

also spoke of acts of revenge

39:09

against the Nazi guards by the

39:11

liberated prisoners themselves. It's

39:14

tough to put a number on that. But

39:16

the Jews who are now freed with what little

39:18

strength they had they used it to kill

39:20

the people that put them in chains. Jack

39:22

Goldman, who was among the liberated prisoners

39:24

of Dacau, said, I knew men

39:27

in camp who had sworn by everything

39:29

that was holy to them that if they ever

39:31

got out they would kill every German in sight.

39:34

They had to watch their wives be mutilated.

39:36

They had to watch their babies toss in the air

39:38

and shot.

39:39

So that's the I

39:40

don't know. That's that that's what motivates these

39:42

people when stuff got it. One prisoner, Walanti

39:45

Lennar Chick, said that at the moment

39:47

of liberation, prisoners were consumed

39:50

by the desire for revenge against

39:53

their captors. They captured

39:55

some SS men and knocked

39:57

them down and nobody could see whether

39:59

they were stopped, but they were killed. We

40:01

were all these years, animals to

40:03

them, and today was our birth I

40:05

think that's a real cool way of saying it. Mhmm.

40:07

Today's our birthday and has stopped them. The

40:10

number of actual Nazi deaths has been

40:12

debated, but court martial charges were

40:14

drawn up against several US soldiers.

40:16

But you know what happened? General

40:18

George S. Patton who had recently been military

40:21

governor, Bavaria, chose to dismiss

40:23

the charges. Fucking patent for

40:25

him. And I think history understands

40:28

that while the unsanctioned killing of Nazis

40:30

went against protocol, the swift

40:33

and brutal vengeance was a

40:35

justifiable comeuppance for their atrocities

40:37

to each what he deserves. That's

40:39

what I'm saying. Yep. Like, so this

40:42

is what we do now, Vipps. We're

40:44

we're at the brink of war any day.

40:46

Like, I I mean, we read headlines and whatnot.

40:49

So if I send my son to war,

40:51

which I would never do, break his leg and

40:53

send him to Canada. I love my kids too much. Yep.

40:56

you

40:56

know, you have to think that there are certain

40:58

rules that would be paid attention to.

41:00

And if similar stuff had happened to American

41:03

soldiers, which it did,

41:05

it raises a lot of questions, but

41:07

it's fucking Nazis. Mhmm. Do you know

41:09

what I'm saying? Right. And what they did to these

41:11

people, particularly in these concentration camps,

41:14

makes me and I'm a pro death guy. Like,

41:16

I don't care about the death penalty. I'm all

41:18

for it. Mhmm. All for it. So this isn't

41:21

hypocritical at all. So

41:22

I I think that by the way, I

41:25

say pro death as far as death penalty thing.

41:28

But I think that also killing Nazis after

41:31

World War two, particularly in blackout,

41:33

is a good thing too. Yeah. But but what

41:35

did we do? We gave them jobs. We we

41:37

tried some of them, but a lot of them we give

41:39

jobs and turn them against the Russians. Yeah. And

41:41

then lot of them escaped South America. I mean,

41:43

there's all these kind of stories that we've talked about,

41:45

which brings me to my next topic. and

41:48

it's the Jewish Avengers, which I love. I

41:50

love the fact that there's a group of people who hold the

41:52

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41:54

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the Jewish Avengers.

43:42

I whenever I see Jewish Avengers,

43:44

I just think about, like, you know, Thor,

43:46

But,

43:46

like, instead of the helmet, he has on, like, the

43:49

black hat. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

43:51

Yamakos. Yeah. Like yeah. --

43:53

Capital America throws a Yamakos. Yeah. Captain

43:55

Israel is like that. Yeah. But they were called the

43:57

Jewish Avengers and I fucking love it.

43:59

They didn't

43:59

do a very good job though. But

44:02

they had the right intentions again

44:04

after the second world war. A

44:06

man named Abbot Kinner started

44:08

a group of Jewish vigilantes under

44:11

the name Nacom. Their

44:13

mission was simple.

44:14

kill as many Germans as

44:16

possible.

44:18

Cavner believed in the old testament

44:20

style of justice which we're gonna see

44:22

in just another couple of minutes. Since

44:26

the Nazis had wiped out six million Jews,

44:28

the

44:28

lives of six million Germans should also

44:30

be taken as fair reparations, an eye

44:33

for an eye. Abocovina

44:34

quickly recruited fellow

44:36

Jewish men to form an account militia

44:39

a name likely drawn from the Hebrew

44:41

word, Nokmim, which translates

44:44

to Avengers. Yeah. I love

44:46

that. I love the Jewish Avengers. I

44:48

I if this isn't a movie, I'm gonna be shot.

44:50

There was a member, her name was YahooDA.

44:53

Her name him. YahooDA Maimon.

44:56

Heaven forbid, if after the war, we'd

44:58

just gone back to the routine without thinking

45:00

about paying those bastards back. It

45:02

would have been awful not to respond to

45:04

those animals. I apologize. don't

45:06

know if yahuda is a male or female name.

45:08

I'm assuming it's male. The

45:10

group hacks to plan known simply

45:12

as plan a. which involved

45:15

poisoning the water supply of

45:17

five German cities. That's I mean,

45:19

this is women and children. Yeah. You know what I'm

45:21

saying? I mean, not that the Nazis didn't

45:23

kill women and children because we know they certainly

45:25

did, but holy shit.

45:27

So they wanted to poison the water

45:30

supply of five German cities.

45:32

Nuremberg, VMR, Hamburg,

45:35

Frankfurt, and Munich. Each

45:38

one heavily tied to the recently

45:40

destroyed Nazi regime. regime. I

45:42

just told you that cow is right outside of Munich.

45:44

Mhmm. So they're going for the big ones.

45:47

Right? In their event plan

45:49

that comes fifty or so members influctrated

45:52

the water departments in each city

45:55

disguised as engineers and

45:57

workers to study the water systems.

45:59

The next part was to travel to Palestine

46:02

and obtain both moral permission

46:05

and

46:05

poison for the mass murder

46:08

from one of Cauvner's friends, a guy

46:10

named Caim Weitzman, who

46:12

is the future president of Israel, who

46:14

just happened to be a chemist. That's

46:16

wild.

46:17

Kaim Weitzman wound up being I

46:20

looked him up. He was the president of

46:22

Israel, and he was also a

46:24

huge fucking chemist. He's actually

46:26

considered to be the father of industrial

46:28

fermentation. Whatever the hell that is, I

46:31

don't know what the hell that is. but that's what

46:33

he was. The story goes

46:35

that this father industrial fermentation,

46:37

Weitzman, was on board with

46:39

the Necom's smaller revenge plan

46:41

just to poison Nazi prisoners

46:44

that they had taken prison prisoner.

46:47

But

46:47

he had no idea that they were targeting the water

46:49

supply of millions of

46:52

Germans. So when the true

46:54

nature of plan a was revealed, Jewish

46:56

leaders in Palestine contacted the

46:58

British to stop Cauvner

47:01

during his travel back to Europe,

47:03

so he set him up to fail. Having

47:06

some misgivings himself about plan

47:08

a and sensing his imminent arrest,

47:10

Governor sent the letter and struck into the

47:12

calm to now carry out plan b.

47:16

and had the poison he carried with him

47:18

dumped overboard before the British

47:20

authorities moved to seize him as

47:22

he had reached Europe. So no harm,

47:25

no foul, Let's go to plan b.

47:27

I got rid of the poison. The British

47:29

are now off of our bash. Dumped it off the boat

47:31

and killed a thousand whales. Yeah. Just

47:33

killed. It gives you shit about Yeah.

47:35

Yeah. Yeah.

47:37

So the new target was STALACT

47:39

thirteen, an allied POW camp

47:41

in Nuremberg. where they were keeping

47:43

the where they were keeping the the Nazis.

47:46

There, the Najam Avengers scaled

47:49

down and intended to kill only

47:51

twelve hundred former SS officers

47:54

who are being held prisoner. This is cool.

47:57

Solo thirteen was a POW camp where he kept

47:59

old Nazis. Yeah.

48:00

Anytime someone's scaling down a wall,

48:02

awesome. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And again,

48:05

like, I'm I'm I

48:06

don't know why, but just in my head, I'm

48:08

finding it delightful to think of them as

48:10

if they were Hasidic Jews doing all this.

48:13

Like, you know, they probably don't have the pious

48:15

and, you know, all the all the stuff. But I I just like

48:17

to think about watching those curls as though

48:19

That's awesome, man. So under the

48:21

leadership of Joseph Harmots, On

48:23

April thirteenth nineteen forty six,

48:26

the group spread a mixture of glue and

48:28

arsenic. If the three thousand

48:30

loaves of bread meant for the Nazi

48:32

prisoners, And by the end of the day,

48:34

more than two thousand Nazi prisoners

48:37

were hospitalized. So they went to kill

48:39

twelve thousand They poisoned

48:41

three thousand loaves of bread, and

48:44

two thousand prisoners were hospitalized. But

48:46

the revenge plant was not carried out successfully.

48:49

Reports following the mass hospitalization at

48:52

the prisoners camp stated that no deaths

48:55

from

48:55

the poisoning had happened. So whether

48:57

intentional or not It's possible

48:59

that the comms had spread the poison

49:01

too thin, thus

49:02

reducing its potency. Ultimately,

49:05

neither Cauvner or

49:07

any other NACOM member was charged

49:09

with any crimes in connection

49:11

with these plots. even though telecom

49:13

is considered by some to have been a

49:15

terrorist organization. German

49:18

prosecutors invested the matter decades

49:20

later but didn't file charges

49:23

due to the extraordinary circumstances of

49:26

the case. And as of November two

49:28

thousand nineteen, couldn't get anything

49:30

more recent. I apologize. Four members

49:32

of the McCom, four members of

49:34

the Jewish Avengers are reported still

49:37

be alive. That's a cool story. That is very That's

49:39

a very cool story. And they didn't get anybody.

49:41

That's a shame.

49:42

go to like to see them get those fuck prismism.

49:44

Yeah. I like how they didn't file charges

49:47

under extraordinary circumstances. Oh,

49:49

yeah. You you did the Holocaust. But this is all,

49:51

like, and I'm gonna keep going with one

49:53

more one more one more a couple more, but

49:55

this is going to be, again, having to deal

49:57

with

49:58

old testament justice.

49:59

that eye for an eye shit. So

50:02

it's the

50:03

operation wrath of God, which

50:05

we spoke to, the twisted history of operations.

50:07

I'd said, I love Rowling Thunder.

50:09

Yep. Right? I I love, like, all these

50:11

names. There are couple other ones that weren't too good. Like,

50:14

one was called Beaver trap. remember

50:16

we don't. Absolutely. I'm trying remember what operation

50:18

of your trip was. It was one like operation

50:20

breakfast. Mhmm. So but rolling thunder,

50:22

operation wrath of God, For

50:25

those who don't remember, it was

50:27

a covert operation orchestrated by

50:29

the facade. And

50:30

the purpose of the operation was to murder the people

50:33

involved in the nineteen seventy two Munich

50:35

massacre in which eleven members of

50:37

the Eurasia Olympic team were killed

50:39

by a Palestinian military group called

50:41

Black September. We

50:42

spoke about the tragedy in our Olympic episode.

50:45

The event called the Munich Massacre was

50:47

documented in the Steven Spielberg film

50:50

Munich, which I've never seen. Oh, we did.

50:52

loved it. We talked about that. Yeah. Argo. Argo I

50:54

mean, I'm not gonna go back and see. I loved Argo,

50:56

but I hadn't seen Munich. Munich is better than

50:58

Argo. Yep.

51:00

Yep. It's

51:02

a list, John. But once we get by, I

51:04

can't go back. Yeah. Yeah. So

51:07

the massacre, imagine this. Right?

51:09

Your Olympic team, eleven people would

51:11

kill. The massacre caused mass fury among

51:13

the Israeli people. And so the government

51:15

elected that they had

51:17

to respond and respond they did. They

51:19

directed the facade, Israel's national

51:22

intelligence agency and well

51:24

known bad asses to launch Operation

51:27

RATH of God, and the objective was

51:29

simple, assassinate all members

51:31

of the Palestinian armed group Black

51:33

September and operatives of the

51:35

PLO that had any part

51:38

in carrying out the Munich Master. That's

51:40

what they had said. And it's not something

51:43

that they were in rush to do.

51:44

over two decades. It's believed

51:47

that gradual gradually

51:49

the objections the

51:51

objectives were met. particularly

51:53

between nineteen seventy two and nineteen eighty

51:55

eight. Those sixteen years, I had watched

51:57

the timeline of how operation

52:00

wrath of God was carried out with

52:02

all these mossad assassinations, and

52:04

it is awesome. Israeli

52:06

Jews worshipped that Old Testament God

52:08

like I said. one who's known for spells

52:10

of anger and vengeance. So the facade

52:13

brought down the wrath on what Israelis

52:15

justified as a mission from

52:17

god. Fire and brimstone. Yeah.

52:19

And in what may be one of the most cold

52:21

blooded acts of revenge in the twentieth century,

52:24

the Masada agents used to send

52:26

letters to the families of

52:28

these terrorists that they were about

52:31

to kill. Right? Just

52:33

before they planned to murder them, These

52:35

families were sent a letter

52:37

and the letter simply read a reminder

52:39

that we do not forget nor forgive.

52:43

Right?

52:43

That's right. And then you know that shit's about

52:45

to hit the fan. Let's get a little more

52:47

darker and a little more recent. Let's talk

52:49

about a serial rapist. His name is

52:51

Aku Yedav. this takes place

52:53

in two thousand four. Making a little bit

52:56

of a left turn in two thousand four.

52:58

So this guy Akun Naidav was

53:00

untouchable. even

53:01

though he was a notorious criminal.

53:04

He was known to rape more than two hundred

53:06

women from

53:07

the slum near New Delhi, praying

53:09

on the most, like, So

53:11

these members, the untouchable cast, so

53:13

for people who don't know, there's this cast

53:16

system in India, and then the intouchables

53:18

are essentially the steerage. Right?

53:21

Nobody gives a fuck about them. So this

53:23

guy, Aku Yedav, used to

53:25

pray on women within the untouchable

53:27

cast, and he said to have raped more than two

53:29

hundred of Kenneth. This was the lowest members

53:31

of India's social hierarchy. I watched something

53:34

on Ghislain Max. Well, kinda like kinda

53:36

what Epstein was doing down in, like, Fort

53:38

Lauderdale or whatever, Palms, whatever the fuck he was.

53:40

He was just going and getting girls from the inner

53:42

city that needed money and no

53:45

no one really ever question or believe

53:47

and he just brought him in. Reminds me like the

53:49

Alaska story too.

53:51

Like how like Indians on reservations

53:53

or Inuits or Indian women

53:55

on reservations in Canada, you know, they go

53:58

missing and and nobody ever has to go after

53:59

a bunch of movies made after Yeah. Yeah. I had the

54:02

river. I was yeah. You ever seen the river, John?

54:04

I

54:04

have. I have seen that. I was gonna Great. Great

54:06

times. fucking nuts if you didn't see that. Yeah.

54:09

Alright. So this guy is going through the intangible

54:11

cast and he's raping people like crazy. He

54:13

also routinely bribed corrupt officials so

54:15

they would drop his case despite countless

54:17

women coming forward allegations of rape against

54:19

him. Boom. In fact, whenever a

54:21

victim reported them to the police, the

54:23

authorities would alert Yedav who

54:26

would then visit the women and then threaten to

54:28

throw ashford on them

54:30

if they said that he was a rapist.

54:32

He raped so many women in the neighborhood that

54:34

many believed a rape victim lives

54:36

in every other house in the slum.

54:38

This is bad. He

54:39

also had a gang that went along

54:41

with him. Him

54:42

and his men gang raped woman named

54:44

Alma ten days after she gave birth.

54:47

after that happened to her a common committed suicide,

54:49

she burned to death by dousing herself with kerosene

54:51

and lighting it. I'm trying to, like, get

54:53

to the point where you know this is a fucking bad

54:55

guy. Yeah. Right? Then came a

54:57

woman named Usha Narayan, a

55:00

victim who had repeatedly been harassed

55:02

by Yedav. With the help from her brother-in-law,

55:06

Nari ain't reported a job to the deputy

55:08

commissioner who promised that finally

55:10

police would arrest the serial rapist.

55:12

that night,

55:13

Yidal's house was nearly knocked down

55:16

by angry neighbors and local residents.

55:18

And perhaps fearing for his life for the first

55:20

time, Yudov surrendered to the police.

55:23

The

55:23

next day in court, Narayin

55:26

and many other local women. Most

55:29

of them victims or friends and

55:31

family of Yadav's victims, heard

55:33

that Yadav was likely to escape

55:35

punishment again. So

55:37

together, they swarmed the courthouse on

55:40

to the vegetable nines, stones,

55:43

chili powder. I love that. Yeah. And whatever

55:45

else was likely it had. As he

55:47

walked past the angry women in court,

55:50

Akhoyadav taught in one

55:52

of them, calling her a prostitute and

55:54

threatening to rape her again. And

55:57

the policeman who was escorting him

55:59

left,

55:59

which caused his angry

56:02

group of women with vegetable knives

56:04

and chili powder to

56:05

absolutely go crazy and

56:08

an altercation broke out. The

56:10

women converged on your dove,

56:12

and the mob was so violent that the police

56:14

fled. Many of them after having chili

56:16

powder thrown into their That's where the chili

56:19

powder comes in. Sounds horrible. Yeah. We're doing

56:21

hot stuff on lowering the bar right now. Yes. I I've

56:23

had the powder on my fingers. Oh. I was

56:25

literally crying in here earlier because I touched

56:28

my eye. It's it's horrible. Right. It's so bad.

56:30

And, you know, the insecticides too, like, bullish.

56:32

Oh, yeah. It's a yeah. So capsaicem

56:35

is the active ingredient in Hotpeppers. So

56:38

This guy taunts a woman as

56:40

he's leaving the courthouse, the police

56:42

kinda giggle with them and the women are like fuck

56:44

this. so they attack. The

56:47

police head for z Hills, and then

56:49

the women passed their knives around

56:51

and just kept stabbing the guy. each

56:53

woman to agree to stab

56:56

Yedav at least once. The

56:58

attack left Yedav's body

57:00

butchered on the courtroom floor

57:03

with seventy stab wounds and

57:06

his penis cut off. He was

57:08

thirty two years old, he was hacked

57:10

to death, for fifteen minutes

57:12

for crimes that spanned over a decade.

57:14

That's a happy ending. Getting

57:16

your dick cut off, that's that's a good story.

57:19

Seventy times with chili powder

57:21

in your eyes. And again, you did cut off

57:23

for raping two hundred fucking women. Right?

57:26

To to each what he deserves or whatever it

57:28

was. Yeah. This woman Naray had spoken

57:30

the incident. It was not calculated. It was

57:32

not a case threat. We all sat down and

57:34

calmly planned what would happen. It was

57:36

an emotional outburst. the women decided

57:39

that if necessary they'd go to prison,

57:41

but that this man would never come back and

57:43

terrorize them. Kinda

57:44

was calculated them. When police

57:47

tried to arrest five of the women for Yudov's

57:49

death, all

57:50

the women in the village protested, and

57:52

soon every one of them had taken responsibility

57:55

for the murder. No. It was me. No. It was

57:57

me. So Nadine and several of the women

57:59

were arrested and tried were eventually

58:01

released due to lack of evidence. I

58:03

like Mhmm. Like, that's that's

58:06

a good that's a good

58:08

revenge story. I

58:10

will say that as we're doing

58:12

the research for this, again, thank you, Satan. Almost

58:15

every one of these events stories had

58:17

come with some sort of footnote from

58:19

the publisher that read and

58:21

This article, this is what it said with the

58:23

Nevada thing. That's why I quoted. This article

58:26

does not advocate or defend any sort of

58:28

violence by the victims. justice pronounced

58:30

according to the law as a sign of civilized society.

58:33

Almost

58:33

every article feels the need

58:35

to put that footnote in We live

58:37

-- We do not. -- but we do not.

58:40

Right? Right. I'm glad that he

58:42

got stabbed seventy times and got his dick cut

58:44

off. Mhmm. I'm upset that

58:46

every member, every POW

58:48

and Stalin thirteen or whatever, weren't

58:50

killed. I'm very happy that employs six

58:52

million random Germans. That would have been fucking

58:55

out of the ordinary. But a lot of the stuff

58:57

that we've heard about so far today,

58:59

Beaufort Plus earned the Dixie mafia. Even

59:02

guy that made to, you know, eat a fig out of

59:04

a donkey's ass, I'm very happy

59:06

about that. So apparently, I'm

59:08

pro vigilante. Like I said, I

59:10

was pro death penalty. I'm also very

59:12

pro vigilant. Like, pro

59:14

death penalty. I understand. I'm fine with it. I don't

59:17

I don't care. But think it's worse for

59:19

someone had to sit in prison for the rest of their life, and

59:21

then they die. Yeah. Yeah. No. I and

59:23

that's that's one of the big arguments in how

59:25

But How expensive it is -- Yeah. --

59:27

to keep somebody alive. As

59:29

of my favorite, like, Facebook put. It's

59:32

on bullets from Walmart

59:34

are seventy five cents. Exactly.

59:36

But I yeah. The you can keep them alive

59:38

at cost more. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

59:41

I I'm gonna go through a couple more, but I'm gonna go

59:43

through them quickly. Peter the great, you've heard

59:45

of them before. He had his second wife,

59:47

Katherine. She had a lover. His name was

59:49

William Mannes. he had his head cut

59:51

off. And not

59:52

only did he have his head cut off, he kept

59:54

it pick pickled in a jar next to her

59:56

a bed. So every

59:57

time she mounted off, he used to point to

59:59

her old boyfriend.

59:59

That was around seventeen twenty four.

1:00:02

We'll stay with Russia, but we'll fast forward to

1:00:04

April twentieth nineteen forty five. We're

1:00:06

at the end of world war two when Hitler was on

1:00:08

the ropes and the Soviets were about to deliver

1:00:10

the kill shot. That's what was happening in

1:00:12

April nineteen forty five. The

1:00:14

Russians were about to kick fucking

1:00:16

Hitler's ass. Okay? So the

1:00:18

battle of Berlin, also called

1:00:21

the Fall of Berlin, was

1:00:22

one of the last major offenses

1:00:25

of the European Theatre of World

1:00:27

War two.

1:00:28

but the

1:00:29

Russians purposely delayed the bombardment

1:00:31

for few days until Hitler's birthday.

1:00:33

I love that. I love that fact.

1:00:36

that

1:00:36

they waited for fucking Hitler's birthday.

1:00:38

April twentieth, Hitler turned fifty

1:00:40

six, and the artillery of the first

1:00:43

Belo Russian front began shelling Berlin

1:00:45

and they did not stop until the city surrendered.

1:00:48

Berlin

1:00:48

took more ordinance

1:00:50

during the battle of Berlin than they took

1:00:53

during the rest of World War two for many of the

1:00:55

allied troops. The Russians bombed the

1:00:57

shit out of them. Ten days later on

1:00:59

April thirtieth, Hitler and his

1:01:01

wife of one day. He just married Eva

1:01:03

Braun and several level several

1:01:06

of his other officials all

1:01:08

committed suicide. I like

1:01:10

the fact that they waited for his fucking birthday.

1:01:12

Last thing I will say about Adolf and Revenge,

1:01:14

there's a myth that Hitler closed

1:01:17

the art school that famously didn't

1:01:19

accept him. You didn't accept him twice.

1:01:22

That's a myth. Okay. And one thing said Hitler closed

1:01:24

the art school that that turned him away. It's

1:01:26

not true. If you google the Academy

1:01:28

of Fine Arts Vienna and look at

1:01:31

its notable alumni students and professors,

1:01:34

any

1:01:34

school that you google, they always of notable

1:01:36

alumni students and professors. So

1:01:38

the Academy of Fine Arts in Vienna, there

1:01:40

are dozens of entries, bunch

1:01:43

of artists and, you know, people

1:01:45

I just don't recognize, but I'm sure they're

1:01:47

all extraordinary in the future. doing on Patriots

1:01:49

of Artist. But the first time I've ever

1:01:51

seen, University of Notre Dame,

1:01:54

University

1:01:54

of Indiana, even all

1:01:56

notables, alumni students and professors.

1:01:59

But the Academy of

1:01:59

Fine Arts Vienna also has

1:02:02

a list of notable rejects. I've

1:02:04

never seen it before. And on that list, there's

1:02:06

only one name. It's Adolph Hitler, who has

1:02:08

twice denied admission to their drawing

1:02:10

class in both nineteen o seven and

1:02:12

nineteen o eight.

1:02:13

So, did Hitler ever close

1:02:15

the school down? The answer is no. During

1:02:18

the Austrian Anshilustan Nas Nazi

1:02:21

Germany, when Nazi Germany

1:02:23

had basically taken control of Austria

1:02:25

from nineteen thirty eight to nineteen forty

1:02:27

five, The Academy, just

1:02:29

like any other Austrian university, was

1:02:32

forced to purge itself of

1:02:34

staff and student body that were Jewish.

1:02:36

They had to get rid of all the Jews. Everybody

1:02:39

did. But after World War two, the

1:02:41

Academy has reconstituted, and in

1:02:43

nineteen fifty five, its autonomy

1:02:45

was reconfirmed. So again,

1:02:47

the Academy of Fine Arts

1:02:50

Vienna has had university status

1:02:52

now since nineteen ninety eight and

1:02:55

it's currently the only Austrian university

1:02:57

without the word university in its name.

1:02:59

So that's little tidbit on it. Hitler

1:03:01

did not close down the school that that

1:03:04

turn them over. Okay? I'm

1:03:06

gonna keep going. I don't have any more. I don't

1:03:08

have any more in case you guys are wondering, but

1:03:10

I'm gonna keep going. Tenth

1:03:12

Century, Constantinople. Istanbul

1:03:15

is Constantinople. A Byzantine

1:03:17

Emperor, his name was Basil the second. He

1:03:19

had been leading the Byzantine Army against the Bulgarians

1:03:22

in a bloody war for about fifteen years.

1:03:24

This reminds you of like a three hundred.

1:03:26

type situation, which one of my favorite movies

1:03:28

of all time. After the Battle of

1:03:30

Cletion, in ten fourteen,

1:03:33

there's no way I said that correctly. Cletion.

1:03:36

Cletion. Anyway, there was a battle.

1:03:38

Basil the second captured fifteen

1:03:42

thousand Bulgarian soldiers.

1:03:44

K? That's more than a room. So he's

1:03:46

got prisoners of war. What do you do with that?

1:03:48

Fifteen thousand. This is what he did.

1:03:50

He had them split up into groups

1:03:53

of a hundred. That's

1:03:54

a hundred and fifty groups of a

1:03:56

hundred Bulgarians. Right?

1:03:58

And in each hundred

1:03:59

individually, they would take ninety

1:04:02

nine of them and pluck out both of their

1:04:04

eyes. Ninety nine of them.

1:04:06

And

1:04:06

then the hundredth, they'd only pluck out

1:04:08

one eye. They

1:04:09

did that a hundred and fifty times. For

1:04:12

a total of fifteen thousand people, thirteen

1:04:14

thousand five hundred were blinded

1:04:17

and fifteen hundred were left with one

1:04:19

eye. Then he had all of the

1:04:21

one eye people lead the

1:04:23

blind people back to fucking Bulgaria.

1:04:26

to show the emperor or whatever boy,

1:04:28

what the fuck he had done. Flex.

1:04:31

Supposedly the Bulgarian king

1:04:34

back

1:04:34

at home who

1:04:36

had led his army had a stroke

1:04:39

and died when he saw this huge

1:04:41

group of blind men march into

1:04:43

his castle. That's petty, That's

1:04:45

revenge, and that's awesome. Basil

1:04:48

would subsequently be known as

1:04:50

the Bulger Slayer and

1:04:52

is seen as a Greek national hero,

1:04:55

but no surprise. He's a

1:04:57

despised figure among

1:04:59

Bulgarians. So I'm assuming

1:05:02

if you're a proud Bulgarian, I

1:05:04

don't know any.

1:05:05

You must hate the name Basil

1:05:07

the second. That's that's revenge.

1:05:10

Mhmm. I think. Yeah. Let's go even further

1:05:12

back. There's

1:05:13

a popular belief that the Roman General

1:05:15

Cipio plowed over and sowed

1:05:18

the city of Carthage with salt after

1:05:20

defeating it in the third Munich War in one

1:05:22

forty six BC, sacking

1:05:24

it and enslaving the survivors.

1:05:27

I had mentioned this briefly once. he

1:05:29

sprinkled the lands with salt as

1:05:32

a form of eco side. So

1:05:34

not only did he sack the city,

1:05:36

not only did he make the people who

1:05:38

lived in Carthage his slaves, he

1:05:41

had then

1:05:42

covered the land with fucking

1:05:44

salt in order make sure that

1:05:46

nothing would ever grow in this

1:05:48

hated area. That's petty.

1:05:51

That's revengeful. during the

1:05:53

Santiago period. In Japan,

1:05:56

in the sixteenth century, the

1:05:58

most powerful war load of the time, his name

1:05:59

is Oda Nobunaga. had

1:06:02

his greatest opponent, as Inagamas,

1:06:05

skull laconate gold, and he used to use it

1:06:07

for a cup for drinking sake. I'd

1:06:09

like to do that. That is With the next wife.

1:06:11

Yeah. And let's end in Japan.

1:06:13

This

1:06:14

is kinda controversial to a

1:06:17

degree. So I'm gonna ask you

1:06:19

guys opinion. Okay? John,

1:06:21

I'm gonna ask your opinion too because III

1:06:23

value your opinion.

1:06:24

Are the Hiroshima and Nagasaki

1:06:27

bombings one of the most brutal acts

1:06:29

of revenge in human history.

1:06:31

Right? There are currently thirteen

1:06:34

thousand

1:06:35

four hundred nuclear weapons in the

1:06:37

world that we know of. Thirteen

1:06:39

thousand four hundred. There

1:06:41

have been over two thousand nuclear tests

1:06:44

conducted to date in history. But

1:06:47

the

1:06:47

two bombings in Hiroshima, Hiroshima

1:06:50

depends on what you say, and Nagasaki remain

1:06:53

the only use of nuclear weapons in

1:06:55

the history of armed conflict. We've

1:06:58

never No one's ever dropped

1:07:00

a nuclear atomic bomb

1:07:02

anywhere in the world, even though there's

1:07:04

thirteen thou thirteen thousand of them

1:07:07

out there in the wind. I'm gonna just

1:07:09

give everyone, like, you know, the scope again.

1:07:11

August sixth nineteen

1:07:13

forty five. The

1:07:15

Inola Gay was an American bomber.

1:07:17

it dropped a five ton bomb on

1:07:20

the Japanese city of Hiroshima. The

1:07:22

blast equivalent was the power of

1:07:25

fifteen thousand tons of TFT and

1:07:27

it reduced four square mile square

1:07:29

miles of the city to ruins and

1:07:31

immediately killed eighty thousand people

1:07:34

immediately. immediately Three

1:07:36

days later, in

1:07:37

Nagasaki, on August

1:07:39

ninth, a specially adapted

1:07:41

b twenty nine bomber called BoxCAR.

1:07:44

Drop

1:07:44

the US's second atomic bomb,

1:07:47

nicknamed the Fat Man. That explosion

1:07:50

unleast the equivalent force of twenty

1:07:52

two thousand tons of TNT.

1:07:55

Forty thousand people were killed instantly.

1:07:58

but tens of thousands died in the

1:08:00

aftermath, radiation poisoning. A

1:08:02

nineteen eight ninety eight study found that

1:08:04

additional sixty two thousand people in Hiroshima

1:08:06

died as a result, plus another twenty

1:08:09

thousand in Nagasaki, bringing victims

1:08:11

to more than two hundred some say two hundred

1:08:13

and sixty thousand people. Okay?

1:08:15

So in three days, We

1:08:17

dropped two bombs and we killed over

1:08:19

a quarter million people. Okay?

1:08:22

Mhmm. Following the bombings, Japan surrendered,

1:08:25

Epra Haruhito announced on a radio broadcast.

1:08:28

September second, the formal surrender was

1:08:30

signed aboard the US battleship Missouri

1:08:32

anchored in Tokyo Bay. So

1:08:34

the United States detonated two nuclear bombs

1:08:37

over Japanese cities, neither

1:08:38

were military camps, Nagasaki

1:08:41

was a shipbuilding center so that some

1:08:43

skin in the game, but neither are military

1:08:45

camps, so we're killing women and children.

1:08:48

And I've

1:08:48

always thought of it as a military maneuver.

1:08:50

Right? We just got done owning the Nazis.

1:08:53

Truman said that in

1:08:55

order to invade Japan, would

1:08:57

have been a huge American and Japanese casualties,

1:09:00

so we ordered a new weapon to bring this thing

1:09:02

to a speedy end. But many think he was also

1:09:04

an actor event for a Japanese attack on

1:09:06

pro harbor. What do you think? Do you

1:09:08

think there's a revenge factor to

1:09:10

us dropping the only two fucking nuclear

1:09:12

bombs that's ever been dropped in the history of the world? I'm

1:09:14

Pearl Harbor. Yes. I

1:09:17

said, Pearl Harbor. Yeah. Yeah. But no, what do you

1:09:19

think? Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm assuade by

1:09:21

the fact that they had to drop too because

1:09:24

Japan really would

1:09:25

not surrender. They I mean, I think it's

1:09:27

known that they were just going to fight to

1:09:29

the death, so

1:09:31

that motivation is more

1:09:33

telling than any sort revenge, I think

1:09:36

I think they were looking at kind

1:09:37

of the tactics of it. At least that's the story I've

1:09:39

heard. And I I don't know if it's true or not,

1:09:42

but They're famously known for not for not

1:09:44

surrender. Is it is it true that they

1:09:46

dropped a atomic bomb

1:09:48

off the coast first? I've always heard that rumor

1:09:51

to, like, show its power, and Japan

1:09:53

was still not swayed. The Kini Island did

1:09:55

its testing out there. Yeah. I don't know if it directly

1:09:58

happened that way, but that's what I mean by I'm

1:09:59

weighed. I'm swayed by that theory that

1:10:02

they just were not going to surrender,

1:10:04

so we had to do something to

1:10:06

to

1:10:06

end the war. Yeah.

1:10:08

I I just like like we think

1:10:10

of the brutality of war and we always, like, point

1:10:12

out the brutality of the, you know, pro

1:10:14

harbor attacks. Right? Like, we we tend

1:10:16

to

1:10:17

to to internalize that more so, but

1:10:19

to think of two hundred and sixty thousand

1:10:21

Japanese, most of them non military

1:10:23

-- Yeah. -- being wiped out by two fucking nuclear

1:10:25

bombs. that there is certain degree,

1:10:27

like so what did it save us? It

1:10:29

saved us a ton of casualties, and

1:10:32

it it's the only thing that forced their

1:10:34

fucking hands. That's but they have it

1:10:36

when you go and look at the greatest

1:10:38

acts of revenge in history, almost

1:10:40

every one of those lists. And again, we're gonna

1:10:43

do part two of this because there's so many of it.

1:10:45

on almost every one of those lists is

1:10:47

the bombing of Hiroshima and

1:10:49

Nagasaki. don't look at it that way.

1:10:54

I I don't either, but the way the

1:10:56

Jewish Avengers were gonna poison the water

1:10:58

supply and kill all the the the Germans. Yeah. I

1:11:00

don't agree with that just because it's women children.

1:11:02

So it's not a military focused thing.

1:11:04

So whenever you're killing just

1:11:07

everybody,

1:11:08

I Like, what, like, what do I do? Do I

1:11:10

sit here as a as a history podcast? And

1:11:13

second guess, Truman's decision

1:11:16

to to drop two nuclear,

1:11:19

two atomic bomb. I don't know. Yes. Like, I don't

1:11:21

know what it is. Like, I don't know enough. But that's why I'm I'm

1:11:23

gonna start the Pacific. Honestly, like, I

1:11:25

I mean, because I kinda know how it ends. because, yeah, I don't

1:11:27

I don't wanna see American soldiers die.

1:11:29

That's last thing I wanna see. Right. But I don't

1:11:31

wanna kill women and kids. Two hundred and sixty thousand.

1:11:34

Like, this wasn't like,

1:11:35

you know, you dropped the first one and you killed

1:11:37

eighty thousand that day. Mhmm. That

1:11:40

sends a message. that eighty

1:11:42

becomes over a hundred. Yeah. think it's

1:11:44

the difference though between kind of

1:11:46

like as we've brought up before nine eleven when

1:11:48

there's a singular event of like

1:11:50

a lot of death. Right? As opposed to

1:11:53

a drawn out war. So that, like,

1:11:55

the invasion of would

1:11:57

eventually have caused so many lives

1:11:59

and

1:11:59

So goes the logic. Right? Like, that's

1:12:02

what why

1:12:02

they would have dropped the bomb? because it would have

1:12:05

cost so many on both sides, honestly.

1:12:07

I

1:12:07

just It's a ton of lives and probably

1:12:10

another year or two to even get all the way

1:12:12

to we could have, I guess, endured could

1:12:15

have lost the war still

1:12:17

if we didn't. It was long it was

1:12:19

a long and by the way, the Japanese did

1:12:21

a lot

1:12:22

to deserve

1:12:23

getting bombed. But again, we wouldn't have lost because

1:12:25

we had them on the ropes at that point. Yeah.

1:12:27

Yeah. Yeah. That's a long But they would have been

1:12:29

a long drawn out thing. We're It would have yeah. They

1:12:31

would have fought to death and would have been impossible

1:12:34

to, like -- I don't

1:12:35

get them to surrender. when Toadja

1:12:37

was captured by the Americans at the end. I

1:12:39

was gonna say he goes down

1:12:41

as imagine not surrendering

1:12:43

after the

1:12:45

first atomic bomb has dropped. So you

1:12:47

say you're one of the most powerful

1:12:49

empires ever in that sense. So he tried to

1:12:51

shoot himself in the heart. Yeah. So he he says

1:12:53

they're gonna surrender. He tries to shoot himself in

1:12:55

the heart. We resuscitate him.

1:12:57

Right? We resuscitate this guy. After

1:13:00

recovering from his injuries, Tojo has

1:13:02

moved to Sugamo prison where he received

1:13:04

a new set of dentures made by

1:13:06

an American dentist. And here's where I think white

1:13:08

we get little petty. We can all agree on that.

1:13:11

The American dentist who made him the dentures,

1:13:14

he put he drilled into the dentures. Remember

1:13:17

Pearl Harbor in Morse code inside

1:13:19

the fucking guy's dentures. That's kinda

1:13:21

cool. I love that. Yeah. Like I I like I love

1:13:23

that shit. Tojo was you know, so we

1:13:25

revived him we gave him a set of dentures

1:13:27

and said, remember Pearl Harbor, that we sentenced

1:13:30

him to death. And he

1:13:32

was hung or hanged a week before

1:13:34

his sixty fourth birthday. on December

1:13:36

twenty third nineteen forty eight. In his

1:13:38

final statement, he apologized for the atrocities

1:13:41

committed by the Japanese military and

1:13:43

urged the American to American military

1:13:45

to show compassion towards the Japanese

1:13:48

people who had suffered devastating air

1:13:50

attacks and the two atomic bombing. So

1:13:53

listen, don't wanna draw any conclusions because

1:13:55

since it's history, draw your own conclusions.

1:13:57

But I'm telling you, for the first time in

1:14:00

my fifty years, I'm looking at Pearl

1:14:02

Harbor, excuse me, at the bombings

1:14:04

of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, a little bit

1:14:06

different than I've looked at it before. You know, and I

1:14:08

think that's probably one of the reasons why I do the stupid

1:14:10

fuck thing. Alright. So that's it for the twisted

1:14:12

history of we do a stoop thing.

1:14:14

Twisted history events. Couple of feedback

1:14:17

still on mascots. People are sending me

1:14:19

mask out stuff in fast and furious. I love

1:14:21

it. Keep them going.

1:14:22

There's a guy, trace

1:14:24

clapping. Claughlin. Large,

1:14:26

I know you already did an addendum to the mascots

1:14:28

episode, but there's a high school in Nebraska. That's

1:14:31

the fairberry Jeff's. Oh. Look at

1:14:33

that. the fairberry jeffs, and

1:14:35

it looks like me. So it's named after

1:14:38

you, and it looks like fucking

1:14:40

me. That's our new mascot. Yeah. If anybody

1:14:43

I don't know if you can get me some swag from the

1:14:45

fairberry jeffs in Nebraska, I

1:14:47

will rock the shit out of it. That second

1:14:49

guy, Matt Gilmore, just listened to

1:14:51

the most recent twisted history mascots

1:14:54

immediately came to mind a couple.

1:14:56

North Dakota has a town called Devil's

1:14:58

Lake. Right?

1:14:59

And

1:15:00

devil's lake, their nickname mascot

1:15:02

was the Satan's. The devil's Lake

1:15:04

Satan's. It's great mascot. Cool.

1:15:06

That's great. And because we can't have anything nice,

1:15:09

You had to pick a new name in two thousand

1:15:11

three. And

1:15:12

the name that they picked after

1:15:14

they did a student vote was the devil's

1:15:16

lake blaze. but

1:15:19

then

1:15:19

they had to get rid of that because everyone thought

1:15:21

it was because everyone's, like, smoking weed.

1:15:23

No. So then they wound up with the firebirds.

1:15:25

So the devil's lake firebirds is not

1:15:28

bad. But

1:15:28

imagine you're playing the devil's lake, Satan's.

1:15:31

Satan's is cool. I'm I've always I've heard the devils, but

1:15:33

never the Satan's love that. And

1:15:35

he goes on. This guy Matt Gilmore goes on.

1:15:37

This is the last thing. We're gonna wrap this up.

1:15:40

I have

1:15:40

a friend who grew up in a small town in West

1:15:43

Virginia called Poca.

1:15:45

So she is she? she attended

1:15:47

POCA High School. And you know what

1:15:50

their last their mascot name was?

1:15:53

The POCA dots. They were the dots. Is

1:15:55

it fucking great? Love it. So the polka dots.

1:15:57

Yeah. You've heard Lima, Ohio?

1:15:59

No. The

1:15:59

lima beans. Really? Lima beans. Yeah.

1:16:02

I know that. Yeah. So the polka dots,

1:16:04

lima beans, the devil's lake

1:16:06

Satan's. If you got them, keep them coming in.

1:16:08

I love them all. That was a twisted history of events.

1:16:10

We have plenty other events stories to talk about.

1:16:13

I might bang another one out next week. Thank

1:16:15

you, John. It's nice to see you back. Thank you,

1:16:17

Jeff, as always. Thanks, Andy, for doing

1:16:19

all that you do. We'll see you guys next week. Do you

1:16:21

have anything to to pump? I've got nothing

1:16:23

to pump, but

1:16:24

Oh, wait. We yeah. So -- Yeah. -- cyber Monday

1:16:26

will be done by the time this comes out. That doesn't

1:16:28

mean you can. keep warning for the Barcel storm,

1:16:30

contractually obligated to say that.

1:16:33

I'm gonna be in Nashville. I don't think anyone

1:16:35

could do anything with that. and I

1:16:37

got I got nothing with that. What are we doing, John? Are

1:16:39

we doing anything? We got rough and rally coming

1:16:41

up. Right? You and I? Yeah.

1:16:42

Not for a little while to say. Is this the one that

1:16:44

graced O'Malley's fighting in? Mali's finding in

1:16:46

it. Devon told me today they got a hell of a fucking

1:16:49

card. Hell yeah. Pac man Jones versus

1:16:51

-- Yeah. -- that one fucking guy, that

1:16:53

one ass kicker. So yeah. It's gonna be

1:16:55

good. Did Pac man fight in an earlier race? Pac man

1:16:57

lost too. Yeah. Skapes me

1:16:59

now with the fuck's name.

1:17:00

Okay. I old white guy. So it's a part

1:17:03

two. playing? Yeah.

1:17:04

Bobby Lang, lights out loud. Yeah.

1:17:06

Yeah. So he's fighting Lang again,

1:17:08

Bobby Lang for the second time. And that's where

1:17:10

Bobby's from. He's a Boston guy putting

1:17:12

dude. He's from Braintree, I think. Yeah. And

1:17:14

so rear admiral's coming down for it. I wanted

1:17:16

to be rear admiral at that. can't wait. There

1:17:20

they're trying to see if I could be

1:17:22

a rep for that one, but it's it's not looking

1:17:24

good. So I'm gonna have to wait till I go it goes

1:17:27

back to West Virginia. But either way, that's on the docket

1:17:29

too. and and that's it. Have we

1:17:31

done one in Boston yet? No. We've

1:17:33

never done a one in Boston. I feel like I mean, Boston's

1:17:35

where Barcelona started. It's gotta be the best

1:17:37

I think Matt yeah. So it's the atmosphere. Like, there

1:17:39

are better places to do it arguably

1:17:41

than West Virginia, but the West Virginia

1:17:44

athletic commission is very good with letting

1:17:46

us use smaller gloves and no headgear.

1:17:48

Right. So boxing commissions go by state to

1:17:50

state. Some of the New York is very, very

1:17:53

tough. So they probably wouldn't say in it. West

1:17:55

Virginia is known as the fucking place

1:17:57

of tough man competitions and stuff, so we get a

1:17:59

little bit

1:17:59

of easier time. Kentucky was the

1:18:02

place that if there's blood at all, fights

1:18:04

over. Right. That was the We don't we're just rough and

1:18:06

rowdy rules of all time. That ruined it. Oh,

1:18:08

so stay tuned for some we shot some

1:18:11

with Big Bang. You rough that match.

1:18:13

That's right. I'm wearing my first match with Big

1:18:15

Bang Zhang, which is awesome. We'll put some of

1:18:17

that out before probably rough and out of it. Do you feel

1:18:19

natural or you if you feel that place? felt

1:18:21

fucking very good. Oh, they look good up there. Yeah.

1:18:24

Tyson Fury fights this weekend.

1:18:26

He's fighting a Darche's order for the third time.

1:18:28

It's gonna be on ESPN plus for free

1:18:30

on Saturday afternoon. I think the car starts in one PM. We

1:18:32

just put that out. We just put out the Tyson Fury

1:18:34

thing, and I got a lot out of them. A lot

1:18:37

out of them. it was it was a lot it was pretty

1:18:39

it was a fun interview. So if you if you like

1:18:41

Tyson Fury and he always gives us something. We

1:18:43

were the first people we spoke to. The first American

1:18:46

news hour is You guys were talking loads

1:18:48

with with took my loads. Yeah. Took

1:18:50

my loads to come. So so

1:18:52

tune into that if you will, on a

1:18:54

barstool boxing the thirteenth round. And

1:18:57

and that's it, guys. Everybody have a good weekend.