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Alrighty,

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everybody, and welcome on back

1:44

to the Twisted History Podcast.

1:46

We did the Twisted History of Revenge yesterday.

1:49

Revenge is such broad subject that we're doing in the

1:51

twisted history revenge part two. Today,

1:53

I don't think I'm gonna do part three even though there's a lot

1:55

of stuff I left on the table. I really don't care.

1:57

It's myself. It's Jeff Hibbert that

2:00

you know him from having great hair and from being

2:02

the Lord in the bar. John is

2:04

back, John Kelly, jK, is in the house

2:06

and his beard is unbelievable. And

2:09

then the the saint, the matriarch

2:11

of the podcast, Saint

2:14

Anne is in the building also.

2:16

Everybody good. Everyone's good. Right? Yeah.

2:18

Yeah. Right? Real

2:21

poignant blog on Barstool

2:23

today. We're we're taping this

2:25

on Tuesday. This

2:27

will drop on Wednesday night. but a

2:29

kid that we all like. His name is Chris Castellani.

2:32

He does a lights camera, Bartoli. He

2:34

does a bunch of other stuff, Detroit

2:37

Detroit guy talks about, you know, that Midwestern

2:40

sports quite a bit. Just a lovely

2:42

fucking kid and and

2:44

he wrote a blog today saying,

2:46

I'm going to rehab. So I don't

2:48

tell people to read many blogs, but

2:50

for people who wanna know what sometimes, you

2:53

know, other

2:54

people are going through. Chris is

2:57

by no means necessarily a celebrity,

2:59

but he's a guy that I think we all know. He's great

3:01

on the dozen. He's just a great kid all the way around.

3:03

But apparently, he's fighting some real demons,

3:06

and he's getting some real So

3:08

on behalf of the twisted history,

3:11

crew, and we're all equally flabbergasted

3:14

when we started to read this stuff. We wish

3:16

Chris a speedy recovery

3:18

and all from all the help that we can even

3:21

though that seems kind of trite. But if he does

3:23

need anyone to talk to, I can't think of anyone.

3:25

Actually, I mean, obviously, Annie is

3:27

a shoulder for me. John and I have had

3:29

some real conversations at times or another.

3:31

And Vipps is fucking awesome for, you

3:33

know, for an asshole. So

3:35

it's it's a it's it's unfortunate.

3:37

It's a hell of a blog written by Chris Castellani,

3:40

and we wish him the best. Right? That's fair to say

3:42

that. I think it's easy to feel

3:44

left out and alone especially when you're working

3:46

in Detroit probably in a basement on your

3:48

computer just not being associated

3:50

with people too much and we're

3:52

all here for you if you need anything. Right.

3:55

Get

3:55

better. Yeah. Sachs. I'd be honest about it,

3:57

and I like that. I mean, I like his honesty. I don't

3:59

know if

3:59

corporate America is better because

4:02

corporate America, particularly with my

4:04

industry, with

4:04

Annie's industry. They'll

4:07

take Annie first when she was on for the exchange.

4:09

If a trade went wrong, got yelled at

4:11

right away. And if she fucked up

4:13

a trade, she got q t'd

4:15

by the end of that day, questionable trade.

4:18

When I was up on a desk, I had something called a and

4:20

L, a profit and loss sheet. So I knew how

4:22

much I made and lost every goddamn day.

4:24

That was that was a report card. your kids

4:26

today who are going to school, they don't have to wait

4:28

till the end of the quarter to see how well

4:30

they're doing. Like, my kids can go

4:32

on skyward and see or Annie

4:34

can go on Skyward. Right? The the the fucking

4:37

spy and see if they've missed assignments. Do

4:39

you know what I'm saying, John? Like, I think

4:41

John sometimes puts his heart and soul

4:43

into producing great

4:46

fucking work that he's proud of and he walks

4:48

away from it, but he doesn't know if anybody's gonna

4:50

watch it. like, he doesn't, you know, necessarily

4:52

get to see the clicks. Right? John?

4:54

Oh, I know. They come. Yeah.

4:56

Yeah. I know. They come what he build you. But

4:58

you know what I'm saying? Like, you know,

5:01

Jeff puts stuff out in the ether all the

5:03

time. Like, whether it's,

5:05

like, a small comedy skit with him

5:07

dressed up as fucking doctor Phil,

5:09

or it's him, you know, nearly

5:11

killing a girl with a hot

5:13

gum, but you just don't know you

5:15

don't get the attaboys. or

5:17

the the stuff. So you don't know how

5:19

you're doing here sometimes. Mhmm. I

5:21

don't know if that's better or worse. Right?

5:23

Like, if I have Oh, Jesus, I lost

5:25

two hundred fifty grand yesterday. Oh, fuck. I

5:27

lost another hundred and sixty today. Like, you know what I mean?

5:29

I used to weigh on me in a different way. But to

5:32

your point, Chris is probably you

5:34

know, questioning himself at every corner,

5:36

both physically, mentally, professionally,

5:39

personally, sexually. He said, you

5:41

know, he's very not sexually, but socially

5:43

he's very, like, awkward around women.

5:46

You know? So, man, his mind palace

5:48

must be just filled with fucking shit. So

5:50

Must have

5:50

felt really good to write that though. I

5:52

hope it was cathartic. I hope

5:54

Now people will react and speak to him

5:56

about it, and he can't take it

5:57

back. Yeah. He's out there. It's easy to

5:59

focus on the negative and not see all the positives.

6:02

I hope he'll sometimes

6:03

it does feel good to get see the positive reviews. I'd

6:05

be like, oh, okay. Yeah. I'm not on an island just by

6:07

myself. I put out that to nothing.

6:09

Yeah. Like, when I put out the nine eleven

6:11

blog, the stuff that I got back was so goddamn

6:13

positive that I have no regrets.

6:15

And I'm sure that Chris is gonna get equally

6:17

positive feedback or encouraging

6:19

feedback because like I said, he's a good

6:21

fucking person. He'll

6:22

find he'll find friends out of this that he didn't

6:25

even know that, you know, beforehand.

6:27

Because he'll he'll have something in common with people. I'm

6:29

gonna be like, you know what? Thank you for sharing that

6:31

because if you didn't, you know,

6:33

it might not help me address Right. I would I

6:35

might not have addressed it myself. So And

6:36

you know it's extraordinary at helping

6:39

people get help. I believe Dave.

6:41

Like, I I know that Dave is is got an

6:43

extraordinarily huge I

6:45

don't know, charitable, you know,

6:47

part to him. Right? So

6:49

So I think that'll that'll rough on

6:51

his employees. I think he's a great person. Yeah.

6:54

What a jerk. Which is good. You have to be.

6:55

I Tell you what. I was a CEO. I get

6:58

it.

6:58

Yes. Exactly. You're a CEO.

7:00

You do get it. Real quick correction.

7:02

People love the Joe Lewis episode. People are, like,

7:04

the reason I watch boxing is because of

7:06

you, meaning me. and I take that, John.

7:08

That's that's what I want people to do. They're like,

7:10

sir, we can tell the passion that you have when you talk

7:12

about Joe Lewis. And you're gonna

7:14

get similar passion when I talk about Chugeray

7:16

Robinson and so forth like that. But

7:18

as always, somebody hits me.

7:20

Joe Lewis is from Lafayette, Alabama.

7:23

It's Lafayette. Mhmm. Fucking

7:25

people. La Fayette. It's

7:27

La Fayette. La Fayette. We got a

7:29

La Fayette. La Fayette. Is it yeah.

7:32

La Fayette, Indiana, La Fayette, Alabama.

7:34

Another thing that tickled us pink is

7:36

we were down in Nashville for NASCAR this

7:38

weekend for the awards. And as we're

7:40

flying back on guys took a

7:42

beautiful picture, by the way. Not too much.

7:45

Right? And a smoke highlighted here.

7:48

So as we're coming back and through the through

7:50

the airport on, like, maybe Thursday or

7:52

Friday morning Friday morning, perhaps. And,

7:55

you know, I'm in a cowboy hat,

7:57

and Annie and I walk in hand in hand through

8:00

an airport, which we don't normally do.

8:02

We're not very lumpy, wavy, but we happen to just be

8:04

holding hands and speaking to

8:06

each other, which you very rarely do either. Don't

8:08

really like each other. some young

8:10

kid is walking this way towards us.

8:12

Young thin kid. Right? Looks like

8:14

Vipps plus four inches. You

8:19

know? Yeah. And so his name is j d.

8:21

And so he looks at us, and then he's

8:23

like, hey. He's like, I'm listening to

8:25

you right now. And so he was listening to his

8:27

industry on the on the way. And I said, oh, that's fucking

8:29

cool. Thanks, man. You know, so he happened to me

8:31

listen to his in his ears. Like, oh, St.

8:33

Anne. Much. then we went and sat down at

8:35

our gate. I guess the kid went and got a cup coffee and

8:37

then ran back. He introduced himself. His name is

8:39

JD. And he loves the fucking

8:41

podcast and he just wants more serial killers. So we're

8:43

gonna do serial killers before

8:45

the holiday because of him.

8:47

And last thing, I I

8:49

started the Pacific. Did you ever watch it? Yes. I

8:51

finished the Pacific. I tried to throw it

8:53

in three days. ten episodes. We did

8:55

four episodes. Right? Two in the

8:57

morning. Then did three in the three. I

8:59

will tell you, it can hold a candle to band the

9:01

brothers. Right. but I don't think many things

9:03

can. No. It's not that fair to say. It's like

9:05

trying to compete with the true Texas season one. True

9:07

Texas season one is amazing. You're never gonna top

9:09

it. Yeah. Yeah. So two seemed like it was

9:11

a shit just because it was compared to one. Three seemed like it

9:13

was alright. So did you have a spark rebound? I

9:15

think if you didn't see band of

9:17

brothers, this thing on its own is

9:19

very good. Right? Mhmm. I wasn't

9:21

but I like, haven't seen Band A Brothers.

9:23

Like, I'm like, I wish it was even

9:26

filmed in the same tape

9:28

as band of brothers, like, I don't know what the

9:31

aspect ratio was or is it because I didn't

9:33

even like the film part of it as much. I

9:35

didn't like the character. I don't

9:37

read me Malek. I hated Snafel.

9:39

Not not I didn't hate his character, like, he was

9:41

a villain that did it, you know, did the trick. I

9:43

just didn't think he was he was very good in it. and

9:45

I know he was excellent as fucking

9:47

Queen Freddie Mercury. I thought he was

9:49

awful in that fucking thing. And the kid

9:51

from fucking DRESSIC PARK. I I

9:53

didn't care for you. I wasn't invested

9:55

like I was through, you know, winters and stuff

9:57

like that. Yeah. But it it's

9:59

still Tom Hanks doing

10:01

that. Did so when you watch it, did Tom Hanks

10:03

do a little spiel before each

10:05

episode? Did it?

10:06

I'm trying to remember if he did next time. I don't think

10:08

he answers. No. Which one? No. Well, III

10:11

bought it or whatever. I downloaded

10:13

it on my phone. And as I was about

10:15

to watch it on the plane, thank you 3GF0C

10:18

if I couldn't watch it. But then

10:20

when I went and I did it at home,

10:22

when we did it on, you know, DIRECTV to

10:24

me or whatever, each episode, and I

10:26

think they might have edited after the fact. Tom

10:29

Hanks does a, like,

10:31

museum esque type thing of what

10:33

you're about to do. He's like, listen, payload.

10:35

No one knows about it, but payload and

10:37

then he's like, afterwards, he's like, pele

10:39

Liu, they wound up never using the airfield.

10:41

Like, really great.

10:42

What's your question though? Did they do it in Bandit Brothers?

10:44

No. I don't know if they did it the original Pacific

10:46

I don't believe they did because I was watching every

10:48

episode being, like, oh, trying to connect the dots on my own.

10:50

And if Tom Hanks is narrating me through it, I

10:52

would have had Tom Hanks narrates the

10:54

beginning. I tell you all the time, go to the

10:56

World War II Museum in New Orleans. Maybe

10:58

they did

10:58

maybe they did the Pacific as they were

11:01

doing the World War II Museum because it seems like

11:03

they might they added a lot of stuff -- Right. -- that

11:05

we saw, and Tom Hanks narrated that. Yeah.

11:07

No.

11:07

That's what I'm saying, sir. So Tom Hanks to

11:09

Ben. That one of the executive producers, I think,

11:12

of of bandit brothers. much earlier,

11:14

bandit brothers. Right? That was two thousand one, just

11:16

one to ten years earlier. Oh, yeah.

11:18

Nine to ten years earlier. But anyway,

11:20

if you go to this museum, the

11:22

the movie theater that you can watch and get an

11:24

introduction to what you're about seeing in the museum is

11:26

done by Tom Hanks and love them who hate them. I

11:28

don't know how many people who hate them. his voice

11:30

is very, very good for that shit. So when he

11:32

did it before every episode saying, hey,

11:34

listen, Iwo Jima was the last

11:36

stop before we it

11:38

it was very very I've made it much better,

11:41

I thought. So Pacific, I

11:43

highly recommend, but if you haven't seen

11:45

Band A Brothers, even the most shocking

11:48

ore inspiring or heart wrenching parts of

11:50

the Pacific weren't as

11:52

shocking awe inspiring or heart wrenching

11:54

as band of brothers particularly for the why

11:56

we fight episode, which I spoke about a couple times. I'd agree

11:58

with that. Would you recommend watching the Pacific Theatre

12:00

before watching the European

12:02

one? Yeah. I didn't know that it started

12:04

beforehand. Like, there were a lot of tidbits

12:06

that I picked out, you know, as far

12:08

as when a when the

12:10

American forces actually dipped their

12:12

toes into fighting in Europe. was

12:14

after we had dipped our toes into the

12:16

Pacific. Right. So we went to

12:18

Africa first. And I was like, yeah, we can't we

12:20

can't land on Normandy without

12:22

training our troops. So we just kinda left Russia alone in

12:24

Germany and Right. We were training in Europe for

12:26

the or England for the invasion of

12:28

Normandy. Incredibly high production

12:30

too. I mean, like, the private Ryan

12:33

Normandy scene, which was

12:35

groundbreaking at the time, seems like the

12:37

Pacific had ten of those. you

12:39

know, like at every turn,

12:41

they had something just as, like,

12:43

wild. And, you

12:45

know, makes you properly hate the Japanese and

12:47

then love the Japanese and know, I'm gonna have

12:49

you hate in the Japanese in just a little bit.

12:51

But alright. So the Pacific, that's

12:53

something that we that we wanna do.

12:55

So back to revenge part too.

12:57

Somebody sent me something today. And I'm

12:59

gonna mention it right away, I believe,

13:02

because there's a guy named

13:04

Austin, no last name. said large is a

13:06

guy. Really enjoy

13:08

the episode. There's a guy named Tom Clark.

13:10

They used to call him the Mount Tom

13:12

Clark. He was a robber and a murderer

13:15

around civil war times in North

13:17

Alabama. Eventually, he and his gang

13:19

were caught and the townsfolk brought

13:21

in broke into the jail

13:23

and dragged them out to hang them.

13:25

His mantra, this guy

13:27

Tom Clark, was no one

13:29

would ever run over Tom

13:31

Clark. Okay? So

13:33

they lynched this guy and his

13:35

mantra was no one will ever run

13:37

over Tom Clark, the mountain

13:39

Tom Clark. Right? So

13:41

now if you go down to

13:44

Florence, Alabama, Tom

13:47

Clark is buried there, and this is how fucking

13:49

petty he was. In eighteen

13:51

seventy two, Clark who

13:53

terrorized helpless citizens during the

13:55

civil war confessed to at least nineteen

13:57

murders, including a child

13:59

and was hanged with his two companions.

14:02

Although graves were already dug in a

14:04

nearby field, outraged

14:06

townspeople entered

14:08

Clark beneath the Tennessee Street,

14:10

thus bringing his boast to

14:12

not. So because he used to say

14:14

no one will ever run over Tom Clark,

14:16

the people of fucking Florence, Alabama

14:18

took his body up and buried him underneath

14:20

the road. So now thousands of people run over

14:22

them every day. And there's a marker on the road

14:24

right next to it. I love that as a revenge

14:26

story to start off. So thanks for

14:28

Austin. Sending that in. Yeah. We'll

14:31

do a couple of military ones since I ended

14:33

last week saying the drop in the

14:35

bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but

14:37

considered by some at least partially driven

14:39

by revenge. We talked about it a little bit at the

14:41

end of the podcast last week. And

14:43

then all of a sudden, I see

14:45

dope's like Vibs

14:48

trying to debate whether Tom

14:50

Brady is more famous than Little

14:52

Wayne this week. And that's what we do.

14:55

snapchat show? Yeah. The Snapchat show. Yeah. Is

14:57

Tom Brady more famous than Little Way? I don't

14:59

I don't get From first of all, first of all, you know.

15:01

It's not even fucking close. Tom Brady

15:03

is more famous than Little Way. personally?

15:06

Yeah. A little busy.

15:06

A little busy.

15:09

Yeah. Yeah. But no.

15:11

So that was That was the thing. Right? They came

15:13

around. They did a little something with you. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

15:15

I think it did well. People like to think about it.

15:17

I don't know where those two names came from. But yeah.

15:20

Right. I had said Tom at one point,

15:22

I had said Tom Brady or Lisa Anne. Like,

15:24

I thought that was an interesting type of

15:26

debate because I thought she deserved a

15:28

Hollywood stars.

15:30

You walk a thing. I'm still I mean, I

15:32

don't know if I'm gonna die on that hill, and I

15:34

haven't really done anything proactive to get

15:36

her one.

15:37

But, you

15:38

know, once you leave me emola. I mean, we we on

15:41

the rundown that one day, a picture of

15:43

Lisa Anne's, like, first ever Playboy popped up

15:45

and every guy in the office was, like, oh, that's That's

15:47

young mister Anne. Right. Yeah. No. Just

15:49

come back. Oh, yeah. You know,

15:51

clamor no. clamor through it in a fucking

15:53

vlog. Well, how about when we brought in

15:54

the playboy from, like, was it nineteen

15:57

seventy nine eighty? We couldn't find that. They

15:59

kept surfacing the old office. Yeah.

16:01

They kept surfacing and then it would be taken and then

16:03

it would show

16:03

up. Yeah. But anyway, like so

16:06

when I see these things, when I see these

16:08

debates and people talk about how

16:10

no. Tom Brady is a household name and a big

16:12

episode. No. No. Little Wayne. little way in his

16:14

global icon and a household name and

16:16

we -- And stuff like that. -- baby.

16:18

Yeah. So I think to myself,

16:21

How sad is it as a society

16:24

that we know these guys names

16:26

on a global basis, but we

16:28

don't know who, you know, Sumitomo

16:30

Yamaguchi is. And then that's the reason why I have

16:32

this fucking podcast. Mhmm. Like, I

16:34

think that Shatoma Yamaguchi should

16:36

be more popular than Tom

16:38

Brady and Lil Wayne. By far, like, I

16:40

don't give a shit about Tom Brady nor do I give

16:42

a shit about Lil Wayne. I kinda care about

16:44

this guy. I've never met him. because he's

16:46

dead. Maybe we were talking about

16:47

with John was it John Baseloni? John

16:49

Baseloni. You know,

16:50

they've made huge parades

16:53

around these guys. They still do down in Maryland to

16:55

New Jersey. They still have a parade for him.

16:57

But you don't know, like, you just

16:59

don't know these these guys are legitimate

17:01

heroes. real life heroes.

17:02

I think what do we have to

17:05

do? What do you

17:05

have to do today in

17:08

society to become historically

17:11

relevant. Like, what do I have to

17:13

do for people to remember my

17:15

name? And apparently, it's

17:17

when You think fucking

17:19

Super Bowls or drop a bunch of

17:21

fire albums and stuff like that.

17:23

But this guy, Sumitomo Yamaguchi. This

17:26

is the beginning of our pod cast. Doesn't have a ton to do

17:28

with revenge. This is the beginning of the

17:30

podcast. Know his name.

17:32

Sutoma Yamaguchi. he's the

17:34

only person to have been officially recognized

17:37

by the government of Japan

17:39

as surviving both the Hiroshima

17:42

and Nagasaki atomic bomb droppings

17:44

during World War two. I

17:46

mean, one person survived

17:49

them both. and

17:50

nobody knows this fucking guy's

17:53

name. Right? You should know this vipps. It's

17:55

kinda like we had a government teacher that was always like

17:57

name the Simpsons characters and you're you've

17:59

easily ran off or and then And

18:01

it's like name of the supreme

18:03

court justice. Nothing. But you used to have

18:05

RBG, and that was an easy one, but now he's

18:07

I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. So it's crazy.

18:10

So Shitomo Yamaguchi.

18:12

He lived and worked in Nagasaki.

18:14

Right? So worked in Nagat Nagasaki

18:16

was the second one to get hit. Okay?

18:18

But in the summer of nineteen forty five,

18:20

he was in Hiroshima for

18:22

a three month long business trip.

18:24

So he was either way, he was gonna get

18:27

hit by a fucking bomb, but he happens to be

18:29

in Harishima for a business trip. My my

18:31

wife believes that all the time. Yeah. I'm going on a three

18:33

month business trip. I'll be back. As the

18:35

second family. Yeah.

18:37

The Hiroshima family. On the

18:39

sixth of August, he was preparing to

18:41

leave the city. And the

18:43

thing was he was, like, on his way to the fucking train station. He

18:45

forgot his passport, went back to the

18:47

office, which put him a little bit further out of

18:49

a blast rate but he actually saw the

18:52

Inola Gay go

18:54

overhead and drop Little

18:56

Boy right near the center of

18:58

the city. which was less than two miles

19:00

away from where he was. So he saw it.

19:02

He recalls that there was a great flash in the

19:04

sky and I was blown

19:06

over. The explosion ruptured his

19:08

eardrums. blinded him temporarily

19:10

and left him with serious radiation

19:12

burns over the left side of

19:14

the top half of his body. So he got

19:16

hit, get hit by the mom. crawled to

19:18

his shelter and spent the night there

19:20

in an air raid shelter before returning

19:23

to Nagasaki by train

19:25

the following day. And

19:27

I'm sure everybody wanted to get the fuck out of Hiroshima, so

19:29

that's not surprising. But he got

19:31

the hell out of it and went back to his home

19:33

in Nagasaki the following day.

19:36

When he got to Nagasaki, he received treatment for his wounds

19:38

and despite being heavily bandaged, he

19:40

actually reported for work on the

19:42

ninth of August. So

19:45

the first bomb drops on the sixth.

19:47

He gets hit by it. He's in work on

19:49

the ninth. Wait.

19:51

Sorry. I wasn't sure today because I had fucking a

19:53

little bit of a head cold. We said we one

19:55

of the run down questions whenever we were on there.

19:57

I can't remember what was on there. Would

19:59

you

19:59

show up

19:59

to work if an atomic bomb went off? Like, if if

20:02

North Korea, bomb, Japan, Right. Would

20:04

you show up to work if there was a bomb on the other

20:06

side of the world that we're a target? Yeah. It would The

20:08

answer the answer's no. God no.

20:10

Fuck no. No way. This guy was

20:12

literally in an atomic blast, shows

20:14

up to his job three days late. Three days

20:16

later, in Nagasaki.

20:17

Right? Like, another a place where

20:20

they actually have I think shipbuilding plants.

20:22

okay Okay? Eleven AM. He's

20:24

back at work on August

20:27

ninth. and he was describing

20:27

the blast in Hiroshima to his

20:30

supervisor when the American

20:32

bomber box car dropped fat

20:34

man over the city. His

20:36

workplace

20:36

again put him about a mile and

20:38

a half from ground zero, but this

20:40

time

20:40

he was basically unhurt by

20:43

the explosion. He wound up losing all hearing in

20:45

his left ear as a result of

20:47

Hiroshima. He also went bald, and his daughter

20:49

recalls that he was constantly swapped

20:51

in bandages until she reached the age of

20:53

twelve. He died of stomach

20:55

cancer in January of two ten at the

20:57

age of ninety three. Wow.

20:59

Yeah. Sutomo Yamaguchi, a

21:01

man who is considered both the luckiest

21:03

and luckiest man in the world at one time.

21:05

Un luckiest because he got hit by two bombs and luckiest

21:07

because he made it through. know what I mean? Mhmm. Like,

21:09

some people say the luck of a candidate. It's from

21:12

that one sort of Diane Young by

21:14

vampire weekend. Mhmm. See they say something

21:16

about the luck of a candidate. Are the candidates lucky or

21:18

are they unlucky? I don't know. What do

21:19

you think? with unlucky. But do you

21:21

go with unlucky? Like, the majority of them are fucking

21:24

People are are considered lucky.

21:26

Yeah. Yeah. Sutomo Yamaguchi, the luckiest or

21:28

unluckiest man in the world. I don't

21:30

know.

21:30

Either way, fuck

21:31

a little way. Right? Sutomo Yamaguchi,

21:34

please member his name. And that was from last

21:36

week's revamping that we had

21:38

said the droppings of

21:40

the atomic bomb were not only to end

21:42

the war, not prematurely, but we didn't wanna

21:44

lose any more American lives. So we

21:46

dropped a fucking bomb, which wound up

21:48

killing eventually close to a quarter of a

21:50

million people. Most of them

21:51

were civilians. Alright. Back to

21:54

revenge, a listener named Jonathan

21:56

who didn't wanna give his last name.

21:58

Right? God forbid, He

22:00

hit me. He

22:00

said, hey, large. Although twisted history in your

22:02

latest episode reminded me of when in two

22:04

thousand seventeen, the US military dropped

22:07

a Moab Mother of all

22:09

bombs on the Coruscant province tunnel

22:11

complex in the mountains of Afghanistan. We

22:13

don't remember this. Yeah. The Moab -- Mhmm. -- was

22:15

like it was big Moab. Mother of

22:17

all bomb. The official

22:19

story was that they were targeting an ISIS

22:21

stronghold in cave system that cannot be

22:23

destroyed by other means, which is

22:25

very true. What they left out was an army green brace

22:27

staff sergeant Mark the Allen

22:29

Carr. I put it in here a father of

22:31

five because he didn't mention that

22:33

was killed in the same

22:35

area a week prior and how that

22:37

was part of the motivation. So I think

22:39

it's safe to assume that there was some

22:42

added revenge to motivate this

22:44

specific bombing. That's that's

22:46

verbatim from Jonathan. I believe that he's

22:48

right. And now this is

22:50

me speaking. The reason

22:52

I

22:52

think it's right, particularly is because

22:55

America's biggest non nuclear

22:58

bomb. Right?

22:58

One that isn't nuclear was used

23:00

on one of the smallest militias

23:02

it faced anywhere in the world.

23:04

The Moab was dropped on

23:07

ISIS k. which was estimated

23:08

to have only about seven

23:10

hundred fighters in

23:11

Afghanistan at the time it

23:14

was dropped. So the official statement

23:16

was the bomb was perfect to

23:18

protect our soldiers from fighting in its reign where they

23:20

were at a disadvantage. So these

23:22

ISIS case soldiers who are operating

23:24

out of tunnels like fucking rats. But unofficially,

23:26

five days

23:28

after staff sergeant marked the Allan Cart

23:31

died, Trump ordered US

23:33

forces to drop a twenty two

23:35

thousand pound explosive right

23:37

near where the Allen Carr was shot.

23:39

The bomb killed ninety two ISIS

23:41

k members, and it was unconfirmed

23:43

if any civilians died, but

23:45

some outlets said two civilians

23:48

were killed. and for the record, I don't speak

23:50

for everybody. I have no fucking

23:52

problem with it. Right?

23:54

Jonathan also gave some facts about the

23:56

Moab. It's actually the GBU forty

23:58

three because I love that shit.

24:00

I'm gonna tell you about it now. It's

24:02

the most powerful non nuclear weapon in

24:04

the American Army. I sent the picture of it.

24:06

That's good. It's

24:07

just a beautiful picture. Oh. Looks like

24:09

it's just penetrated thirty

24:12

foot concrete wall with ease.

24:14

Yeah. It's it's it's it's phallic.

24:16

Right? It's a big green deck,

24:18

but it's

24:18

it's it's two twenty one

24:21

thousand six hundred

24:23

pounds. twenty one thousand

24:25

six hundred pounds. It's delivery

24:27

system. It's so large

24:29

that no US war plane was

24:31

big enough to drop it. It

24:33

had to be unloaded from the

24:36

rear of a cargo plane

24:38

with the help of a parachute. So

24:39

they had to throw out the parachute you know, like

24:41

those Tom Cruise fucking things -- Mhmm. -- where they dropped the bay.

24:44

So it was pushed out of the back of

24:46

AC1 thirty cargo plane.

24:48

Sounds You're Yeah. Right?

24:50

Exactly. I don't think it needs to be.

24:52

It's thirty feet long, less

24:54

than four feet wide. Again, like

24:56

a big dick. Its blast yield was eleven tons

24:59

of TNT, and its blast

25:01

radius was approximately one

25:03

mile, but residents living up to two miles

25:05

from the blast site said the

25:07

explosion had broken windows and cracked

25:09

walls in their home. The Moab

25:10

is the most powerful conventional

25:13

bomb, non nuclear. Conventional bomb

25:16

ever used in combat, as measured by

25:18

the weight of its explosive material.

25:20

So the only time a nuclear warhead was

25:22

detonated during combat was

25:24

twice. We dropped them both

25:26

on Japan. And

25:27

the biggest

25:28

conventional bomb ever used

25:30

in combat was dropped by us also in

25:32

a mount of Afghanistan. The explosive

25:35

yield is comparable to that of a small

25:37

tactical nuke. In two

25:39

thousand seven, Those

25:41

scumbag Russian military guys announced that

25:43

they had tested a thermo Barrick weapon,

25:46

nicknamed the father of all bombs, the

25:48

foe app. fuck them. The weapon is claimed to be

25:50

four times as powerful as the

25:52

Moab, but its specifications are widely

25:54

disputed, so I call bullshit.

25:56

Right? I can say that Naksia wore a fuck the

25:59

Russians. Right?

25:59

Also, it just sounds like AAA fupuff,

26:02

a pussy. Yeah. A a

26:04

pussy. Yeah. fucking fuck. Moab sounds

26:06

way cool. Yes. Here's

26:08

another military

26:09

events story that was being

26:11

barely covered up or perhaps justified

26:13

under the guise of medical experimentation.

26:15

This is a bad one. This

26:17

is

26:17

a bad story. Alright?

26:20

So tune into it. But first,

26:23

John, A word from our friends at

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it's it's a very very simple,

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Yeah. And I think as you count if you look up this

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Yeah. And you can use whatever I

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I

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the foreigner? No. Yeah. I would much

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rather do that than chopped where all of a sudden I have

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to use like a squid's asshole. this stuff

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is is great. I and I can

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make I can make art with what they

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send me a pillow. We want a cooking competition

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together You are you are an incredible

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incredible cook. And then he was he

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was dunking for squid -- Yeah. -- inside a

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plastic squid inside squid ink. You took a

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eighteen. I had said that there's

29:11

another historical revenge

29:13

story that was covered up in the guise

29:15

of medical experimentation. perhaps

29:18

justified. If you look up

29:20

Kyusu University, just

29:22

Google Kyusu University, when you're

29:24

at home right now. Google the shit out of

29:26

it. There's no boobs involved. Yeah.

29:28

One

29:28

of the first things

29:30

that come up is

29:31

that it outlines the top five reasons to attend this

29:33

place of learning. Whose motto is

29:36

opening the door to a new

29:38

century of knowledge. Kyusu

29:41

University. The first of the

29:43

five top reasons was that it was established

29:45

in nineteen eleven. As one of the

29:47

Imperial Colleges of Japan,

29:49

It's Japan's fourth oldest engineering school.

29:52

I don't find that to be that impressive. Fourth

29:54

oldest engineering. So I probably go to a third

29:56

oldest. Right? Number two, it's largest

29:58

and most advanced university campus.

30:00

Boom. That's a reason to

30:02

go. Queshul's got large,

30:04

most advanced campus. Three, it's

30:06

developing outside of Japan as a

30:08

top global university. Alright.

30:10

So it's big in Japan. Now it's getting

30:12

big elsewhere. You got me. Four,

30:14

research excellence and strong connection with

30:16

the industry. I don't know. That looks

30:19

like it was lost in interpretation there. I can

30:21

almost read it with a Japanese accent. And

30:23

then five, you get the study at a great

30:26

livable city.

30:28

fukuoka

30:30

in cook which is

30:31

known as Japan's gateway to Asia.

30:34

All cool with me. Kewshu

30:36

University, Fukuoka is

30:38

cool, great old campus

30:40

that now is technologically sound.

30:42

It has ties to industry. You

30:44

should go there. What they don't

30:47

mention, Vipps, is that in the final days of World War

30:49

two, a US bomber crashed in

30:51

Japan, and eight American

30:52

airmen were taken to

30:55

Keisha University and

30:56

they would dissect it alive. And this

30:59

is this is as if so

31:01

as I'm describing this, where do you put

31:04

Kyusho University in

31:06

terms of United

31:08

States universities. If it's

31:10

the fourth oldest, the most technological

31:14

campus. It's in a hot city. Would

31:16

you say that it's

31:18

Japan's USC? It's

31:20

not Harvard. Like, what's the

31:21

comp for Kyushu here?

31:24

Maybe like a UCLA. A

31:26

UCLA? I mean, USC. That's

31:28

a low bar. Yeah. Okay. Low bar listed a noted name. Is it

31:30

a duke? Is it a Stanford?

31:33

I'm maybe a Stanford. Yeah.

31:35

So that's what Kyoto University to

31:38

me is in Japan. Nobody

31:40

mentions that Listen,

31:43

I used the term dissect it. that

31:45

they dissected eight US airmen

31:48

in this fucking medical school within the

31:50

university. I think the real

31:52

term is VIVUSA action because that's the

31:54

act of performing surgery or medical

31:56

procedures on a living

31:58

creature for the sole

31:59

purposes of experimentation. So

32:02

they've intersected eight of our

32:05

boys over there. Here are the details.

32:07

On May fifth nineteen forty 5AB

32:09

twenty nine Superfortress had completed

32:12

Iran against an airfield near

32:14

Fukuoka,

32:14

Fukuoka, Japan.

32:16

The end of

32:17

World War two was in sight, but Japan

32:19

and the US were still fine. By the

32:21

way,

32:21

the b twenty nine Super Fortress was

32:23

the Big Boy. That was

32:25

the like, whenever you think of a big

32:28

warplane, those big silver ass warplanes with

32:30

almost like the the pinged windows

32:32

up front. Mhmm. You know what I mean? That's

32:35

that's a super fortress. Couple of turrets or little guy

32:37

to hit that in. It was propeller driven

32:39

too. Like, those big propeller cc. Oh, we

32:41

just lost engine one. Like, you know,

32:43

that shit. It was made by

32:45

Boeing. They stopped flying them in nineteen

32:47

sixty, but they're one of the largest aircraft to

32:49

World War two. B-29s were

32:51

the ones bombs in a Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

32:54

That's how big they

32:54

were. Okay? The only aircraft

32:57

ever to drop nuclear weapons in

32:59

combat, which I've gone over.

33:01

so this enormous b twenty nine, which

33:03

was tough to

33:04

shoot down was instead ramped

33:06

by another Japanese aircraft while

33:08

in the air. Everyone but the

33:10

pilot bailed out resulting in twelve men

33:13

parachuting towards the ground. One man

33:14

had his parachute cords cut by

33:16

a passing plane and fell to his end,

33:18

which I believe is against the Geneva Convention.

33:21

You're

33:21

not allowed to shoot down or with

33:23

people

33:23

in parachutes, I think. Is that something like that?

33:26

Yeah. There's some sort of notes to that. So

33:28

twelve men are parachuting towards.

33:30

One man gets cut by a passing plane.

33:32

The other two were attacked by

33:35

villagers upon landing. One

33:36

of that guy was one of them was murdered right

33:39

away. The

33:39

other one fought back but turned

33:41

his last bullet on himself, so

33:43

he killed himself. So that's

33:45

twelve minus three. So nine men

33:48

remained, including captain Marvin

33:50

Watkins. Watkins was

33:52

separated from the others, and

33:54

transported to Tokyo for

33:56

questioning. He was beaten severely but

33:58

survived and made it back to his home in

34:00

Virginia. The rest of his

34:02

men, eight US soldiers. were

34:04

taken into custody by a

34:06

military physician and were transported to a

34:08

nearby facility, Kyusu Imperial

34:10

University's College of Medicine. we

34:13

just saw the top ten, five reasons to fucking go

34:16

there. None of them would

34:18

leave. According to reports, a

34:20

military physician and a colonel and the

34:22

local regiment were the ones who

34:24

decided that the eight remaining Americans would be

34:26

best used for medical

34:28

experimentation. The decision was made immediately and

34:30

experiments began the moment the men were

34:32

transferred to the universe Now this is

34:34

gonna sound familiar, but it is

34:36

totally different from unit seven

34:38

thirty one. Unit seven thirty one

34:40

operated somewhere else. and that was that

34:42

big place where they were, like,

34:44

just using Chinese people,

34:46

anybody that they could from America

34:49

medical experimentation. We spoke about that. It's a bad

34:51

place. Kinda like yeah. Yeah. It

34:53

it wasn't the the

34:56

Japanese version of It was. i Einstein's

34:58

grouping or whatever the SS1 hundred percent. It

35:00

was seven thirty one was

35:02

the was the Japanese

35:04

Nazis. Yep. for intents

35:06

and purposes. They were the ones who were doing all the the

35:08

I remember this episode. So now outside of

35:10

those cock suckers, right, you

35:13

have this medical school fusion

35:15

medical school -- Mhmm. -- that has eight US airmen

35:17

in its grips and that they decide

35:19

that they're gonna fuck

35:22

with them. Okay? Teddy

35:24

Ponska, one of the US airmen, had to

35:26

seen an injury when he'd been stabbed by a

35:28

spear after landing. So that's what you're

35:30

dealing with. You land in a jungle. two

35:32

guys get killed. One of them kills himself. Teddy gets by a fucking

35:34

spear. So when they were taken these

35:36

guys away, they figured they

35:39

were prisoners of war. when

35:41

they saw they were going towards a medical institution, they figured they were

35:43

gonna be treated for injuries, like you would do for prisoners of

35:45

war, you do get treated for

35:48

injuries. Right? but that's not

35:50

what happened. The men thought

35:51

they were gonna be given medical treatment after

35:53

all these doctors were in masks and gowns,

35:55

and they were trying to patch them up. So what

35:57

could go wrong? Teddy

35:59

was

35:59

the first to

35:59

be experimented on a q shoe. One of the

36:02

doctors there decided he wanted to test the

36:04

surgical effects on the

36:06

respiratory system by removing a man's lung in its

36:08

entirety. They went in, they removed the

36:10

lung,

36:10

and then they stitched up the incision as if

36:14

nothing happened. Ponska

36:15

was sedated during the operation, but the mask was removed from his face after

36:17

his lung was taken out. One of the

36:19

reports says afterwards when the mask

36:20

was off, the victim started to stir

36:24

so a doctor, Theresa, made a new incision, reached into

36:26

his chest, and manually stopped his

36:28

heart. This is fucking

36:30

wild shit. No, Vipps. Like,

36:33

yeah. This is this okay. Another soldier was

36:34

brought in and cut

36:35

open while he was still

36:37

alive. VIVUS section. Then

36:40

he had his liver dissected, and he was still breathing. Doctors

36:42

removed the portion of his liver, then stitched

36:44

him back up just to watch what would happen.

36:47

Perhaps even more horrifying is that this was done before

36:50

an audience of other doctors and

36:52

surgeons as well as

36:54

medical students. One medical student. Thank God. His name is

36:56

Toshiba Otono, who has since

36:58

devoted his life to

37:00

exposing what happened at

37:02

Keuge University. remembers the

37:04

matter that's why we know all this, by the way,

37:06

because of Tokyo Tono. One of these

37:08

guys had the balls to step up and talk about

37:10

it afterwards. So this just

37:12

isn't like unconfirmed reports.

37:14

This happened. He remembers the matter

37:16

of fact tones the doctors had as they worked.

37:18

Once the liver was removed, toner recalls surgeon

37:21

saying, this is a removal of the lever. I almost want

37:23

Japanese with that. And we're

37:24

gonna see how long the man would live without his

37:26

liver. The answer was unsurprisingly not

37:30

very long. Yeah. Epilepsy

37:30

was not particularly well understood at the time,

37:33

and the Japanese physicians at Kusi University

37:35

took this opportunity to learn more. They

37:37

drilled a hole through the

37:40

skull of another American POW while he was still alive, then they began

37:42

removing small parts of the brain, checking

37:44

for reaction. Their intent was to see

37:46

if epilepsy could be trolled,

37:48

cured, or created by the removal of parts of the

37:51

brain matter. And then there

37:53

was one specific experiment that

37:55

seemed to be carried out on all victims, injecting

37:58

seawater into their bloodstreams.

37:59

Fuck. Surgeons would get

38:01

bottles of seawater and have

38:03

medical students told them, then the soldiers would

38:05

be given intravenous injections of sea water. Their claim to

38:07

do this to see if sea water could be used

38:09

as a substitute for

38:11

saline solution to see if they can increase

38:14

blood volume in the wounded.

38:16

However, Toshi

38:16

Otono, the stud, who's

38:18

once asked to hold the bottle

38:21

claims that none of the doctors

38:23

actually thought this was possible. So it's

38:25

actually a bullshit. This is

38:28

revenge fucking

38:30

killing. and then after losing their lives, the eight victims were not laid to

38:32

rest. Each man passed his reigns

38:34

whose remains were sectioned up They

38:37

were hacked up and then preserved in

38:40

formaldehyde and displayed to anatomy students

38:42

for study. Toshiya

38:43

Tono recalls removing

38:45

eyeballs from the bodies for preservation. The intent was to

38:47

keep the bodies for future experiments

38:50

and research. Only

38:52

a few

38:52

months after these events, the

38:54

Japanese surrendered to the United States in

38:56

August of nineteen forty five after

38:58

we dropped two big fucking bombs on

39:00

him. There was some discomfort among the surgeons as they realized that having so

39:02

much evidence of the Vivint sections was perhaps

39:04

not a good thing. They eventually destroyed the

39:07

body parts

39:07

records and evidence. but

39:10

words of the experiment got out through foreign exchange students who had

39:12

been at the university and had seen what was

39:14

happening. So it wasn't just Tokyo. There was other

39:17

people who did come forward. thirty

39:20

people were arrested and brought to trial in front of the

39:22

allied war crimes, tribunal

39:25

in Yokohana, Japan. Before they

39:27

could be brought to trial, one of the

39:29

lead surgeons who performed the experiments took

39:32

his own life while he was in prison.

39:34

Good, good riddance. In

39:35

nineteen forty eight, thirty people were tried

39:38

for VIVUS section wrong for removal of body

39:40

parts and

39:42

catabolism. Although

39:42

that was never proven, they were said that some of them were eating stuff that

39:44

was being taken out of the American soldiers. So

39:46

that was dropped due to lack of evidence.

39:49

Toshi

39:49

Otono, this guy had mentioned many times,

39:52

was one of the men to testify as to what

39:54

happened. He was not charged,

39:56

and it Ed spoke openly about the horrible things that had been done to US

39:58

soldiers. In the end twenty three, the

40:00

people were found guilty, fourteen were

40:02

sentenced to

40:04

short terms, four were sentenced to

40:06

life in prison, and five were sentenced to death. However, these

40:08

sentences were not to last. None of the men

40:10

sentenced execution for the crimes

40:12

were actually executed no

40:14

one served life in prison. As the Korean

40:16

War picked up in June of nineteen fifty,

40:18

the United States had its hand full.

40:21

and was looking to ensure that Japan remained their new

40:24

ally during Korea.

40:26

So only two years after the twenty

40:28

three people were convicted, General Douglas

40:30

MacArthur, who is the military governor of Japan

40:33

at the time, commuted the

40:35

sentences and reduced the

40:38

prison terms. by nineteen fifty eight. Right? So they went

40:40

on trial in nineteen forty eight. By

40:42

nineteen fifty eight,

40:44

these demons all

40:46

of them who were convicted of these crimes were free from

40:48

jail. And many went back to practicing

40:51

medicine and science, but never

40:53

spoke of what they had done. The

40:56

whereabouts or status of any surviving

40:58

medical professions from the incident are

41:00

unknown except for medical student

41:02

to Kyotono. The university

41:04

itself was never found guilty of any

41:06

wrongdoing and is still open to this

41:08

day, as you know, because we just

41:10

read from the So, Hughes

41:12

University and the whole Japanese government didn't

41:15

speak or acknowledge this incident

41:17

for nearly seventy years. And

41:19

in thousand fifteen, the university museum

41:22

finally broke its silence. As a

41:24

museum opened in

41:26

April one small section

41:28

was dedicated to talking about

41:30

human experimentation. There's not

41:32

much saved for a few medical artifacts a

41:34

book and a plaque to make sure the tragedy is not

41:36

forgotten or repeated. This is

41:38

the first time the incidents has

41:41

ever been historically spoken by the

41:43

University of government officials since the release

41:45

of the criminals who performed this act

41:47

in the fifties. That's a big time revenge story. Do you

41:49

find that to be a revenge story? For

41:52

sure. Yeah. They're picking them apart just to

41:54

just to do it, just to be mean. because they're

41:56

Americans. Yeah. And listen, we wound up

41:58

dropping gigantic bombs

42:00

and killing tens of thousands of people and whatnot. And I'm

42:02

trying to justify my head

42:04

that. I'm trying to justify

42:06

my head the killing of that

42:08

many innocent individuals, but then

42:10

you see what happened to these eight

42:12

people. And I'm sure sergeant

42:14

Tang said that I said that his name

42:16

was, she's what do you have to

42:18

do for me to remember your fucking name? Teddy Ponska. Teddy Ponska.

42:20

Like, I'm sure that he has family members who must

42:22

have been like, drop the biggest bomb you can

42:26

find on these sons of bitches. You know what I mean? But I think that

42:28

that's a revenge story. What a horrible way to

42:30

go. Imagine you get

42:32

stabbed when you jump out of me. I don't wanna be the third

42:36

guy. We Jesus. No.

42:38

Jesus. But, like, no. No. That's a good point. Yeah.

42:40

Right? Like, you don't wanna go I I

42:41

guess you maybe you do wanna go I want I'd

42:44

wanna go first.

42:45

right Right. And that's a

42:46

that's a horrible story. At least that guy was

42:49

It's like being the human centipede. You wanna go first? You

42:51

wanna be the Yeah. You wanna be up top. Yeah.

42:53

You wanna be the shit. the shittier. Not

42:55

the shittier. I actually like

42:57

revenge stories. I don't like

42:59

that one. I apologize.

43:00

Yeah. No. I don't But I

43:02

mean, like, you feel

43:03

good when someone gets back. It's someone like you're

43:05

like, oh, like, I know last week when you guys

43:07

were talking about it. and fibrosis is like,

43:09

no, I wouldn't do something like that. That's too petty. And I thought that was funny because it's

43:11

like, like, I get that. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.

43:13

Like, when

43:14

you at the same

43:15

time, you're like, oh, goody, them

43:17

back. Mhmm. That's not a good revenge. It's not a feel

43:19

good revenge story. Like, usually when you think someone got

43:21

revenge on someone, you're like, it's justified.

43:23

I like a black and white revenge

43:25

story. Like, the guy that died the

43:27

mountain and they put them under the road. So if you drive out of it, that's a great deal. never

43:29

run me over. And now thousands run them

43:31

over every day. I

43:33

had a great one other day.

43:34

Some guy kept driving by, like, someone's

43:36

house that he doesn't like. And every time he

43:38

would drive by, he would just take his gum and

43:40

toss it

43:41

in the guy's Oh, really? That's a good one. Some is

43:43

just such a yeah. Some is like that's me.

43:45

That's better than the carat seat one. I got a lot

43:47

of fucking sales. carat seat

43:50

one too. So if you wanna about --

43:52

even though it wasn't petty, but I love the fact

43:54

that Stalin and

43:56

the Russians the russians

43:58

delayed the the

43:58

bombing of Berlin a couple of days till it was on

44:00

Hitler's birthday. Yep. I liked that last week. That's short,

44:03

sweet. You know what I mean? And

44:06

then similar. I didn't mention to it. Similar in pettiness,

44:08

but much smaller in scope because

44:10

the bombing of Berlin was was

44:13

was substantial. But the Germans

44:16

occupied Paris during World War two. I don't know

44:18

if people remember that, but they did.

44:20

Mhmm. And so French

44:22

resistance fighters cut the elevated cables in the Eiffel Tower -- Mhmm. --

44:24

because the Nazis wanted to hang the German flag

44:26

off the top of the Eiffel Tower, obviously.

44:28

Mhmm. So talk about

44:30

being petty. So the German

44:32

so the French Resistance Fighter said, no,

44:34

no. I can do French so they

44:36

cut the they cut the cables. It doesn't make

44:38

up for what had happened during the

44:41

Nazi occupation. in Paris, but at least these Nazi

44:43

sons of bitches in order to plant their

44:45

flag at the top of the tower, they were

44:47

forced to walk more than

44:49

a hundred stories. There are sixteen hundred and sixty

44:52

five stairs from the

44:54

Esplanade to the top of the tower,

44:56

and they must have been fucking pissed

44:58

doing it. You know what I mean? So

45:00

I I think that's kinda like a little

45:02

petty revenge

45:04

story. Then his dude sent

45:07

me a think

45:08

is also incredibly petty,

45:10

and I love it. I love the petty

45:12

ones. I think they're

45:12

fine. Well, this guy Well,

45:14

I was all some of This guy in

45:16

his name was Jake. Also, no last name.

45:18

We must be like the bad boys who are podcasting. Nobody

45:20

wants to cut out their last

45:21

name. So I'm fine, man. I said to blame

45:24

him. I'm I guess How does that give

45:26

us? Oh, no. Totally cool. Yeah. III

45:28

just I love the fact that, you

45:30

know, I don't know. Maybe it's like a

45:32

guilty pleasure. Hey, large. Love the revenge pod today. I got a petty story. Last

45:34

September, I had a telehealth appointment

45:36

at eight AM. I got on Skype and waited in

45:38

the virtual waiting room from seven

45:40

fifty five

45:42

so he was early to 905 So he was there for over

45:44

an hour and the doctor never joined the meeting. The next

45:46

day I got a bill saying that I missed the

45:48

appointment and they charged me whatever the

45:52

fee was. like

45:52

we've all had that happen to us, particularly when you have kids, it keeps

45:54

so much working worse. You know, you're doing it. This

45:56

guy was so pissed that they wasted my time.

45:58

I wrote up my own invoice.

46:01

and have been billing them monthly while

46:03

accruing interest until they pay

46:05

me back. I know I'll never see

46:07

that money again, but I keep

46:09

sending the invoices. and I did

46:11

not believe him, but I get to a better WiFi, I'll send

46:14

you copies. He sent

46:16

me copies. up

46:18

to thirteen or fourteen invoices that he set this medical study.

46:20

He he barked out the names and stuff like

46:23

that, but he's now billing them

46:26

every month for, you

46:27

know, services rendered for him

46:28

waiting there for now in five minutes and

46:31

accruing interest every month. That's

46:34

penny is fucking. I love it. Jake, keep fighting a good fight. Yeah. Keep fighting a

46:36

good fight. supporting you here too. history, brother. Yeah.

46:38

I wish you'd give me the nigga. I'd

46:40

like to out the dog. Well, they

46:43

always say, well, you know, how much is your

46:43

time worth? Well, tell you what? Now, you know you gotta

46:46

go.

46:47

Yeah. Yeah. that's

46:49

actually brilliant. Straight up revenge story

46:52

from way back. First

46:54

century mediterranean sea, there

46:56

was a shitload of pirates. I'm the captain

46:58

now. twenty five year old Roman nobleman. He wasn't what he was yet.

47:00

He was Julius Caesar, and he was captured

47:02

by pirates. When the pirates

47:04

started to ask for a ransom

47:08

They're asking for something called twenty talents. I don't know what

47:10

that means. I never heard the term talents

47:12

before, but Julius Caesar says, no

47:16

way, man. You have to ask for at least fifty talents for me,

47:18

which transfers to about one point five million

47:20

dollars in today's money. I mean, I know that it was a

47:22

form of currency. I just never heard the term

47:24

talents before. So he

47:26

negotiated his own ransom up. The prior to,

47:28

like, what the fuck? He's, like, you get you get much

47:30

more for me. And then while he was

47:32

under the

47:34

the while

47:35

he was a prisoner of these pirates, he treated them

47:37

like he was their commander. You know, he

47:40

would participate in pirate games, but he would

47:42

dress them as if there

47:44

were subordinates. And from

47:45

time to time, he would just say, and by the way, I'm gonna crucify you

47:47

guys when I get out of here. Like, you know, you

47:49

see that in, like, action movies

47:50

all time, like, some guys tied

47:54

up he's about to be killed, and John Wick will be like, you're gonna die

47:56

slow. And like he always manages to

47:58

come

47:58

through on it. Julius Caesar essentially

47:59

said that. He had pirates

48:02

kidnap him And he says, by the way,

48:04

I'm gonna crucify you guys when I get out

48:06

of here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You have a big trouble,

48:08

like, my crew gets here.

48:10

Yeah. Like, yeah. Sure. They're not coming for

48:12

you. Alright. When they come? By the way, he's not

48:14

Julius Caesar yet. He's only

48:16

twenty five, so he's not the

48:18

guy just yet.

48:20

But sure enough after thirty eight days, the ransom was

48:22

delivered and Caesar was set

48:24

free immediately

48:26

afterwards. didn't have any

48:28

military office at the time. He

48:30

raised the naval force because he had money,

48:32

and he set out in pursuit of

48:35

the pirates and he found still camped at the island where

48:37

he'd been held. And so this navy that

48:39

he put together took his

48:42

pirate captain's

48:44

hostage. they had him hostage in a

48:46

local prison. He went to

48:47

the local prison, and the local governor said,

48:49

we

48:49

will prosecute them. And

48:51

he said, no.

48:54

I'm going to crucify and local governor said,

48:57

okay. And so

48:58

Julius Caesar came

48:59

through on his

49:02

revenge promise and he

49:04

crucified everybody that took

49:06

him hostage less than a month

49:08

earlier. That's that's that's

49:10

like some cool shit. Yeah. You gotta you gotta

49:12

have something happen to you to get the

49:14

motivation to -- Yeah. -- not an emperor. Right?

49:16

It's not an

49:18

emperor. Oh, You

49:19

know how I love talking about how when you get lowered that torture device, the fucking

49:21

pyramid -- Yep. -- when it goes right in your premium, it

49:23

goes all the way. How much it

49:26

called I don't know what

49:27

the fuck is. Jacob Judith Cradle. Yeah. Yeah.

49:29

Judith Cradle. Yeah. Yeah.

49:31

Weirdly close, but not at all

49:33

close. It is

49:34

It's one of my favorite episodes that the

49:36

torture torture one was a fun. It

49:39

was fun. But the reason I put this

49:41

down was because I think about that device

49:43

all the time and how it would be slower on

49:45

Vipps because he's so much lighter. Right. You said I

49:47

dropped my fat ass on it. It splits me

49:49

apart right away. It's quick. Yeah. By the

49:51

way, I'm trading at my all time highs. I gotta do something with it because you gotta help me out. I gotta wait

49:53

some wait. We need more hell of fresh in her

49:56

life. Yeah.

49:58

So, Vlad Tempress, does everyone know Vlad

49:59

Tempress's, Vlad the impaler?

50:02

Mhmm.

50:02

He he's he's ruckers.

50:04

He's Yeah. I was gonna say Transylvania,

50:06

but I didn't think that Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

50:08

So he was he was the guy that

50:12

was Dracula was based

50:14

off of. I think Dracula is

50:16

actually translated

50:17

to dragon.

50:18

So sometimes princes

50:21

were called Dracula. So Dracula actually came from

50:23

this guy. Bram Stoker's Dracula

50:25

was based on this dude. He

50:27

was the prince

50:28

of Wallachia, a

50:31

principality located to the south

50:33

of Transylvania. Listen, if anyone's

50:35

in Transylvania, which I think

50:37

is now Romania, and you come at me for the way

50:39

that I pronounce Wawlaccia, like you came at me with the way I repounds

50:42

pronounced Laffayette, fuck

50:44

you. Okay?

50:44

lucky

50:45

as close I'm gonna get.

50:47

So he's gladly impaler for his favorite way of

50:49

dispensing his enemies.

50:52

So impaling Impelling

50:54

is a particularly gruesome form

50:56

of torture and death. And he

50:59

started doing this as revenge tactic

51:01

because his family was murdered. Okay? So that's where

51:03

the revenge comes in. But a sharpened wooden

51:05

or metal pole is inserted through

51:07

the body vertically, either through the

51:10

rectum or

51:12

the The exit wound could be near the victim's neck,

51:14

shoulders, or out the mouth.

51:16

Okay? So you should be watching this because I'm

51:18

doing a very good job. They go right

51:20

in, zip all the way

51:22

through and it comes right

51:24

out. This isn't anything

51:26

new. Right? Like

51:27

Vlad wasn't the

51:29

first to impale. What

51:31

he did, Vipps, was that

51:34

he would impale you on something

51:36

that was rounded and

51:37

not sharp. And the

51:39

reason he did that is that way

51:42

he avoided damaging internal

51:44

organs and thereby prolong the

51:46

suffering for

51:48

the victim. the poll was shoved partially into

51:50

you, so I would shove this

51:52

rounded poll into your ass. Doesn't sound

51:54

so bad. so far.

51:56

Right? But instead of just staring at it.

51:58

Yeah. Instead of just piercing through

52:00

everything causing internal bleeding and

52:02

having you hemorrhage and die on

52:04

the stick, this thing would sort of your your organs would move

52:06

around, this rounded thing. Like, obviously, he'd

52:08

break through the wall of your colon.

52:10

And then all of a sudden start

52:12

to travel upwards. But you know how slow that

52:14

fucking must have been? How slow

52:16

that would be as opposed to a sharpened

52:18

spear? At it's not cutting open your your intestines and your heart

52:20

and all that stuff. It could take

52:22

hours or days for the impaled

52:24

person to die. So

52:26

all of a sudden, this thing then gets

52:28

forced out of your fucking

52:30

shoulder. Right?

52:32

This gigantic dil though, for

52:34

all intents and purposes that just goes through

52:36

your fucking body, goes out through

52:38

your shoulder, and then you're

52:40

stuck for everyone to see, and you sit

52:42

there, fuck riving in agony for hours perhaps

52:44

days. On one occasion,

52:47

he reportedly dined among

52:49

a variable forest of

52:52

defeated warriors writhing on impaled

52:54

poles around him, dipping his bread

52:56

in the blood of his victims, which

52:58

added to the whole Dracula type thing.

53:02

Now listen to this number. This isn't something

53:04

that he just did

53:06

to some guy that

53:08

disrespected him. In total,

53:10

it's estimated that Vlad killed

53:12

about eighty thousand people,

53:16

including twenty by being

53:17

impaled. That's a big number for

53:18

the fifteenth century. Like the

53:20

fifteenth century didn't have an impaling machine.

53:24

So pressing a fucking blunt pull through

53:27

twenty thousand assholes. So

53:30

Vladimir payload was

53:32

not petty he was a vengeful

53:34

guy and I just liked the way that he did it.

53:36

Okay. It's a long shift.

53:38

Yeah. Twenty thousand assholes.

53:40

Twenty thousand assholes. Yeah. Like, how do you feel if

53:42

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last year in Russia. Vipps,

55:42

you don't have kids that you know of

55:44

yet. Correct. But one of the things

55:47

that I would I would be most vengeful for or have

55:49

been most vengeful for is when someone fucks with my kids.

55:52

Mhmm. One hundred percent.

55:54

My parents, my family, my

55:57

wife, my kids, I'm gonna get you. I am.

55:59

I'm

55:59

gonna fucking get you. Believe

56:01

that. Okay?

56:02

Or last year in

56:05

Russia, I named Slava, Mastrozov. Mastrozov

56:08

made his best friend, Olag

56:11

oh lead Sviridov.

56:12

sviridov Sappet.

56:14

Oleg's Furi

56:15

Dov. He made this guy. Slava

56:18

made Oleg dig his

56:20

own grave. and

56:22

then kill himself after discovering that

56:26

Sverdorf had repeatedly

56:28

sexually abused Salva's daughter

56:30

who is only six at the time.

56:32

JD, I'm sorry. You would ask

56:34

her, like, serial killer type shit. This is

56:36

dark. Salva and Oleg. who

56:39

were thirty five and thirty two years

56:41

old respectively, went

56:42

out drinking, and Slava. So

56:45

mobile

56:45

phone footage,

56:48

Oskaradov, forcing his daughter, Slab his daughter, then

56:50

aged six to perform

56:52

a sex act on him.

56:55

Right?

56:55

OLED goes up to the bathroom, was looking

56:57

at something on his phone, slava picks

57:00

up the phone, and it winds up its

57:02

fucking videos of his six year

57:04

old daughter being raped by the guy who just went to the

57:06

bathroom. Spirit of

57:08

had been a babysitter for the girl on numerous

57:10

occasions. Actually, he didn't go to bathroom. He

57:12

fell sleep at the bar. He could hear the little

57:14

girl's voice. Right. Right. Set it up. Yeah. So then Spiro Spirodov

57:17

who wasn't the bathroom fell

57:19

asleep at the bar. saw that

57:21

Slava had seen what was on his phone. He headed for the fucking hills.

57:23

Right? He ran out and

57:25

the police launched a

57:27

manhunt for him. but Slav have

57:30

found him first, dragged him out to a

57:32

forest where he forced him to dig his own

57:34

grave.

57:34

I loved this. Yeah.

57:36

Slava claimed Oleg stumbled on a knife during the

57:38

quorum, but was initially held on suspicion

57:40

of murder and could have been gelled for

57:42

fifteen years if he had been convicted.

57:46

but

57:46

sources close to the case said that the detailed forensic evidence

57:49

showed that Mestrovrov had

57:51

not stabbed Sviridov.

57:54

Instead of murder, Slava was convicted of inciting his

57:57

friend into suicide and

57:59

was

57:59

sentenced only

58:02

eighteen months in a Russian

58:04

penal colony but was

58:06

freed after serving just six

58:08

months. That's a happy ending. That's

58:10

terrible fucking story. the happier. I

58:12

guess, happy. I'm also gonna assume that a

58:14

Russian penal colony even a month and

58:16

there is worse than a couple years

58:18

and a We spoke about the

58:20

black dolphin. which

58:21

is the hardest prison in the world. It's in Russia. The

58:23

only reason they call the black dolphin is because that

58:25

would be a statue, a

58:28

carved stone statue of

58:30

a black dolphin out front. But it's that

58:32

place that when you leave your

58:34

when you leave your cell to go

58:36

to anywhere, to the yard or whatever,

58:38

you have to go with your head, below your waist, and

58:40

your hands back here. So you can

58:42

never see around you and, like, make a map of

58:45

how to get the fuck out. blacked

58:47

off. It's not where you wanna be. And we know a lot

58:49

about the the the the

58:52

Russian work camps and stuff. But when

58:54

I wrote Russian

58:55

penal colony? That sounds

58:57

bad. Yeah. Yeah. It

58:59

worth worth doing it to get

59:01

back in order to abuse

59:03

your daughter, but and I'd like to believe that prison

59:05

justice still exists. So the guys there

59:08

probably took it easy on him when they figured out --

59:10

Mhmm. -- that this guy had done that for

59:12

his daughter. You know what I mean?

59:14

No. That's yeah. Yo. You want Hey.

59:16

Well, we could twist in history. Prisons was pretty good.

59:18

We could

59:18

do it part two of that too because we left

59:20

out

59:20

a lot. But out of the table world. Yeah. The show

59:22

world's toughest prisons on, like, TLC is

59:25

an all time show. Yeah.

59:27

It's terrifying, isn't it? You see these

59:29

Guatemalan prisons? That's one guy

59:32

killing one guy for

59:33

what he did to one

59:36

girl. there was something called the quasimid empire.

59:38

I have pretty good segues today.

59:40

It ruled large parts of present

59:43

day, Central Asia. Afghanistan

59:46

and Iran. They ruled that

59:48

huge swath of land for over

59:50

a hundred and fifty years from ten

59:52

seventy seven to twelve thirty one. It's

59:55

estimated that the Empire spanned an area of three point six million square

59:57

kilometers, making one of the largest

59:59

land empires in history. this

1:00:02

is this gonna be a gangest concert? No. The dates I think kinda gave

1:00:04

it away. Yeah. One hundred percent. I think I read

1:00:06

that -- Yeah. -- empire name in the book that

1:00:10

But in the beginning of the thirteenth century, the empire was the greatest power

1:00:12

in the Muslim world. That said it again. The

1:00:14

greatest power in the Muslim world

1:00:17

It had over three

1:00:18

point six million square kilometers, making

1:00:20

it one of the largest land and powers in history.

1:00:22

But unless you're a gangfight,

1:00:24

chances are you've never heard

1:00:27

of

1:00:27

the Coirzmod Empire, KHWAREZMID

1:00:30

JoresMed

1:00:34

Empire. And the reason that you never heard of them

1:00:37

is because this gigantic empire fucked

1:00:39

with Gangiscan. That's the

1:00:42

only reason.

1:00:43

that's your a reason Gengus

1:00:45

Khan had defeated

1:00:46

the Karakattans. And so

1:00:49

he wound up taking their

1:00:52

land. and

1:00:53

then gaining a border with the Juarez empire, which

1:00:55

was ruled by a guiding

1:00:57

Shah aladin Mohammed.

1:01:01

In an attempt

1:01:02

to show his friendly intentions,

1:01:04

Khan sent a caravan of

1:01:06

five hundred Muslims to officially establish

1:01:10

trading with Chorus Mia, right, inside the Chorus

1:01:12

mid empire. But the sha was

1:01:14

skeptical and captured the

1:01:15

five hundred men claiming they were spies.

1:01:17

I can't say I

1:01:20

blame them Right. I can't say I

1:01:21

blame if Kenless Khan sends you five hundred

1:01:23

fucking people to talk about trade after you saw

1:01:25

that he was just coming

1:01:28

right through Asia and

1:01:30

Russia and just, you know, taking over stuff. I'd be

1:01:32

a little skeptical too. Just any anybody

1:01:34

doing that back in the day? Everyone's trying

1:01:36

to come at the throne. Yeah.

1:01:38

So he he took these guys so genghis

1:01:41

finds out that the five hundred men

1:01:43

that he had sent again,

1:01:46

to a huge empire. This five hundred men doesn't really make

1:01:48

a dent here. It's not like sending five

1:01:50

hundred men to a town that

1:01:53

only has three hundred people in it. Mhmm. He sent this to

1:01:55

one of the largest Islamic

1:01:58

empires in

1:02:00

history. Okay? largest

1:02:00

land empires in history, greatest power in the Muslim world.

1:02:02

So he sends five hundred men. They

1:02:04

take them prisoner claiming their spies.

1:02:07

Just throw them in prison. Where

1:02:10

it

1:02:10

gets back to gang is gone? I don't think

1:02:12

he's known as being a pretty patient guy,

1:02:14

but says, you know what? Instead of attacking,

1:02:16

I'm gonna send three ambassadors, three mouthpieces. Two

1:02:18

of them will be Mongols, my people, one of

1:02:21

them will be Muslim. To ensure

1:02:23

the five hundred men get

1:02:26

out then we can speak like gentlemen.

1:02:28

And again, the shah did not respond well. He had

1:02:30

the Mongols head shaved, which was a

1:02:32

big fucking no no. Mhmm. Right?

1:02:35

and he had the Muslim beheaded, which was a bigger no no.

1:02:38

I'd rather be shaved than beheaded.

1:02:40

Right? Yeah. And he also ordered the

1:02:42

execution of all five hundred men

1:02:44

in captivity. That's an act of

1:02:45

fucking war. So his

1:02:47

revenge for his soldiers,

1:02:51

genghis

1:02:51

Khan

1:02:52

invaded that empire. and

1:02:55

two years later and one

1:02:58

point five no. Excuse me. And

1:03:00

fifteen million

1:03:02

casualties later. the

1:03:03

Qwars mid empire was

1:03:06

wiped off the face of this earth.

1:03:08

Modern

1:03:08

historians still struggle

1:03:10

to recreate their language as the

1:03:13

empire was completely destroyed. So what's the

1:03:15

lesson that we learned there? Don't fuck with

1:03:17

genghis Khan. When genghis Khan comes to your village and it's

1:03:19

like, hey, you can either surrender

1:03:21

and we'll we'll live amongst you. Right. Or

1:03:24

we'll kill you all and wipe you out. Just

1:03:26

And we did learn about that too. Like, we

1:03:28

learned that a lot of what gangness had done

1:03:31

was a simulate empires -- Mhmm. -- more

1:03:33

so than conquer them. And so this

1:03:35

guy said no Bueno and decided to go

1:03:37

up against them. And as a result, you'll never

1:03:39

hear from this guy again. in

1:03:41

any history book except for the fact

1:03:43

that Gangestcon had fucking owned him. Alright. A

1:03:45

little bit more. I'll go so I went all the

1:03:47

way back. I'll come right back now. two thousand

1:03:49

three, an Indian boy named Alam Khan, so his

1:03:52

father murdered by a family friend when he was

1:03:54

only twelve years old. Twelve

1:03:56

years old. So then in two

1:03:58

thousand fifteen, after

1:04:00

twelve years of planning

1:04:02

revenge, he took action on the guy who killed his

1:04:04

father. Very very Batman.

1:04:06

Very Batman. He invited

1:04:08

Mohammed Rahist to his house for some repair

1:04:10

work and got him drunk while he

1:04:12

was there. then put on loud music and kill the man by cutting his

1:04:14

body into twelve pieces

1:04:16

using a hammer and

1:04:18

a hacksaw. one piece

1:04:20

for each year he waited to

1:04:22

avenge his father's death. I like that.

1:04:24

That's quick. Mhmm. Some dude is twelve

1:04:26

years old, which is what my daughter

1:04:28

is now. if she sees me getting killed by some dude, and then she goes

1:04:30

the next twelve years planning it, gets

1:04:32

to do drunk, and hacks him up to

1:04:34

twelve pieces, Nice job, Richard.

1:04:36

Eventually. Yeah, please. Right?

1:04:38

Eventually, just like that. Let's go

1:04:40

biblical. The story of

1:04:42

Daina, which

1:04:44

rhymes with, vagina. So

1:04:44

the story of Diana, it's in the old testament.

1:04:46

It's in the book of Genesis. Why would I say

1:04:48

that? Why would I say that? I wanna talk about

1:04:51

the fucking Diner was the daughter of Jacob.

1:04:54

Okay? She was abducted and

1:04:56

raped by shechem, the son

1:04:58

of Haymore the Hivite. It's a

1:05:00

great name.

1:05:00

I think they were like canonites.

1:05:03

Hemor the Hivite. So

1:05:05

shechem

1:05:05

Rapes Daina. Okay?

1:05:08

And

1:05:08

because shechem then wish to

1:05:11

marry

1:05:12

Diner. Haymore,

1:05:14

shechem's dad suggested to

1:05:18

Jacob Diana's dad, the rapist's dad, that their

1:05:20

two people initiate a policy of commercial

1:05:23

and social intercourse. Dyna's

1:05:26

brothers, Simeon and Levi, pretended

1:05:29

to agree to this marriage,

1:05:31

but only if

1:05:34

shekel and all other males in his city

1:05:36

were circumcised. This is

1:05:38

a great one. And so a

1:05:41

guy comes in and

1:05:44

starts circumcising everyone in order for this

1:05:46

marriage between the rapey and

1:05:48

the rape burr go through. guy

1:05:51

comes in and starts just lopping off fucking

1:05:54

forescans. Boom boom boom.

1:05:56

Right?

1:05:56

That's what the brothers had done.

1:05:58

And while the men were still weakened from these operations, Simeon

1:06:01

and Levi, Daina's

1:06:04

brothers, attacked the

1:06:06

city, killed all the males, including shechem and his

1:06:08

dad Haymore, and freed Dina

1:06:10

Dina and then joined in plundering the

1:06:14

city. end of story. That's a biblical revenge story. You rape

1:06:16

my sister, I'm gonna have the tips of all the dicks

1:06:18

of everyone in your town cut off and

1:06:21

while they're and recovering. We're gonna kill them all, then we're gonna pillage your

1:06:23

shit out of each city. That's kinda cut and dry.

1:06:25

That's it. Yeah. It's not bad. That's That's Looze.

1:06:27

Looze. Get your dick cut off and Yes.

1:06:30

By the way, biblical

1:06:32

circumcisions were not cool

1:06:35

when you're an adult. Like, you

1:06:37

know, like having it done

1:06:39

now, they don't have the sharpest scalpel. That's

1:06:42

fucking terrible. I think I'm gonna close on this

1:06:44

guy. Yeah. I'm about to close. We

1:06:46

spoke about this guy briefly in

1:06:48

a conversation of Alaska being the most popular state for serial killers, as percentage

1:06:50

of the population. There's a

1:06:52

guy named Jason Vucovich. His

1:06:54

name

1:06:55

is the Alaskan Avenger. I hope people remember

1:06:57

him. Jason and his brother were apparently beaten and molested

1:06:59

as a child by their stepdad. The

1:07:01

abuse continued until

1:07:04

Vucavitch was sixteen years old,

1:07:06

at which point he and his brother ran

1:07:08

away. They were big bible freaks.

1:07:10

His mom and his step dad were bible freaks,

1:07:12

and what his dad used to do

1:07:14

to was fucking not good. By the way, Jason

1:07:16

Bukovich looks like a

1:07:18

killer. You see I mean, he's big,

1:07:20

slick back hair. Fuck. Yeah. It's

1:07:22

he's he looks looks like type guy. So as

1:07:24

an adult, he decided to get revenge. Trying to

1:07:26

type in Jason Bukovich. Jason Vorhees pops

1:07:28

up. Yeah. It's very very similar.

1:07:31

It's very similar. Yeah. So as

1:07:33

an adult decides to get some revenge two thousand sixteen, the now forty five year

1:07:35

old Vukovic hunted down three alaskan men who are

1:07:37

all on a sex offender

1:07:40

registry he broke into their homes and beat them within an inch in hammer

1:07:42

before robbing them. Right? He was caught

1:07:44

in a sense of twenty three years in prison in

1:07:47

two thousand eighteen. Though remains

1:07:49

in prison today, some are still campaigning for his

1:07:52

release, particularly his younger sister. She

1:07:54

runs an Instagram page. It's called

1:07:56

Justin for Jason Vucovich, I clicked on

1:07:58

it and I have cool merch.

1:07:59

Like, if you if

1:08:00

you click if you click on the merch thing that I

1:08:02

have here, I'm I'm I'm tempted to

1:08:05

buy the fucking the

1:08:07

Alaskan Avenger t shirt. Am I

1:08:09

weird

1:08:09

for that? Would you do that?

1:08:10

It might be a

1:08:11

good Christmas. Weird for a lot of reasons.

1:08:14

Yeah. Look, check out this t shirt by the way. So if you go

1:08:16

to justice Jason Bukovich.

1:08:18

Look look at the Alaskan adventure. It's his fucking ballsy guy holding a

1:08:20

hammer. this is fucking ballsy guy

1:08:22

holding a hammer And

1:08:24

that's I mean, the menendez brothers don't have a page. It's

1:08:26

a page.

1:08:26

Right. Right. But you like but that's kinda kinda look like a fucking sick fuck. A hundred

1:08:28

percent like I think that's him talking to

1:08:30

his bro. Look at that. Right. Right. So

1:08:34

listen, there's more to this story. As I

1:08:36

started to dive deeper into it because that's we did.

1:08:38

And he put the story in front of me and

1:08:40

I went a little bit deeper, the guy was

1:08:42

a career criminal. I mean, he wasn't, you know, necessarily he had

1:08:44

a huge rap sheet and stuff. And so we're

1:08:47

wondering if he decided to rob

1:08:50

people who were on the sex offender list because he knew

1:08:52

that it would be able to sort of

1:08:54

be justified if he got caught. There's a lot

1:08:56

of moving parts on this. So I'm not saying

1:08:58

that I'm team Vuc which necessarily. I'll pour through it. I'll send a copy

1:09:00

of my character's sister. I don't know. I think

1:09:02

he's the type guy who take care of

1:09:06

himself in jail, but his sister is certainly been more than vocal

1:09:08

and extremely supportive of her brother. So I'll

1:09:10

put it out there. Justin for Jacob

1:09:13

Justin for Jason

1:09:15

Vucovich on Instagram if you wanna learn

1:09:17

more about the Alaskan Avenger who allegedly took see, there's a sister. I'm I'm looking

1:09:19

at her sister

1:09:22

right now. Yeah. Yeah.

1:09:24

He

1:09:24

reminds me of the saxophone player

1:09:26

that's in a Mad Max, the guy that was always with that's her.

1:09:28

Oh, really?

1:09:29

Or the wrestler

1:09:31

was shown my Yeah. I was gonna

1:09:33

say, Sean Michaels is a or the hitman heart. Yeah. He does have he does have something like that. But,

1:09:35

yeah, bad ass looking dude.

1:09:39

Yeah. Anyway, so I mean, I kinda liked

1:09:41

the fact that he beat up child molesters -- Yeah. -- with hammers. I just don't know what

1:09:43

everything was behind that. Alright.

1:09:46

So that's a twisted history

1:09:48

of part two. We're all

1:09:50

done. Next week, and then the week after we'll be back, I'm gonna try to squeeze serial

1:09:52

killers in. I'm also gonna

1:09:54

start doing a mailbag one so

1:09:58

many people sent me

1:09:59

mailback stuff about mascots. I love

1:10:02

them all. Mhmm. Everybody who has

1:10:04

a weird mascot, anywhere near to

1:10:06

send it through, gonna mention it next week on the I think we're gonna mail

1:10:08

back next week. Is that cool? Mailbacks are I love mailbacks.

1:10:10

Yeah. They're they're They'll love t m's when they come

1:10:12

in. It's always good stuff. So we'll do

1:10:14

mailbacks, then we'll end the year strong

1:10:16

with some sort of Serial killers. Serial killers of

1:10:18

j d who we'd met in the had some kid. Right?

1:10:20

Like a young kid

1:10:22

who we met. Yeah. Very.

1:10:24

Yeah. So so that's a

1:10:26

twisted history. It's myself, Jeff. Listen, we started the podcast with this. We're gonna end the podcast

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with this. Best

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wishes to Chris Gasoloni. I'm

1:10:34

hoping that if he's if he's trying to, like, you

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know, get through some stuff and listening to, like,

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podcast or something, he listens to this and knows that

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a lot of people are pulling for him. Okay? Yeah.

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a lot of people in your corner. One hundred percent. Yeah. Great kid. One hundred percent.

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But we just get a little chubby. Right? I mean, that's

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it's just I'm just kidding.

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I totally I have to say that because gotta keep it

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light so tight. Yeah. Can't be too serious all the time. Chris knows that that

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we love them. Alright. So thanks very much guys, and we'll

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talk to you soon in

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Twist of History.