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is the this is the big red one,

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right? This is the end of Twisted

2:16

History. As you know it, that's not sure

2:18

we're gonna have a best of next week. Last

2:20

live show. We first started doing this podcast

2:23

back in we

2:26

we felt we filmed or recorded the first one

2:28

back in December of 2019. It was released in January

2:30

of 2020. So

2:33

we've been about three years at this thing.

2:36

Nearly 190 episodes or somewhere. Something

2:38

like that.

2:40

And Jack hasn't been here since the beginning.

2:42

Jack came on a couple of months ago and

2:45

has been gangbusters since he's gotten here. Everything

2:47

that he's touched has done better. Obviously

2:49

not good enough though. What does that tell you? No,

2:54

but I mean when you have people who join anything

2:57

that you're doing you can tell whether or not they're

2:59

into it and people who would do

3:01

Twisted History don't necessarily need

3:05

you know, like they're not necessarily into it, right? Because

3:07

this is a neat show. It's not

3:09

for everybody. Not a lot of people like history. You

3:12

know, most people hate history, right? Because they think about

3:14

it for me in a history class. But Jack came in and he

3:16

seems like he really dug it. So it was a it

3:19

was it was a blessing to have him here with us. Same

3:21

thing with Vibs. When Vibs and I first started doing

3:23

this I didn't know who I was going to be doing

3:26

this with and Vibs was very busy at

3:28

the time. So two people had read

3:30

to be the co-hosts. It was Vibs and Eddie. Because

3:33

there was an idea that Eddie was going to move to New

3:37

York at that time because Eddie was doing

3:39

the Dave Portnoy show. There was nothing

3:41

set in stone. It was just rumor that he was going to do

3:43

it. So I don't know if you remember Vibs, but we

3:46

recorded the Twisted History Kamikazes, myself

3:49

and Vibs. I recorded Twisted

3:51

History Kamikazes with Eddie, myself

3:53

and Eddie, the Lost Tapes. And then we

3:55

decided that we were going to go with

3:57

Vibs and I and we re-recorded.

3:59

recorded it and that's the one that you put out. So

4:02

the one that we finally put out was the third time out. Oh, I

4:04

remember. Cause I knew there was a competition

4:06

and Vibs is going to have to be pitching heat if he wanted

4:08

to be that co-host. And

4:11

we basically have Eddie as a co-host anyway with

4:13

large doing this impression. Yeah. Yeah.

4:17

But you should have seen Eddie jockeying too. You know, I know Vibs is a nice guy

4:19

and stuff, but I don't think he's that reliable. It's

4:21

not that he's not bright guys, certainly bright, but I don't

4:23

know about his reliability. But

4:27

uh, but a watchful guy. I don't know. We

4:30

want to be in

4:30

a fire. Me, I'm Carl. I'm a car guy.

4:33

Um, and then we've had so

4:35

many people who've guest hosted

4:38

with us. Um, Casey

4:41

jumps to mind because you did Heisman trophy winners

4:44

and Casey's like, so okay, if I just kind of kick

4:46

back and drink wine during it, we had just a really good

4:48

time doing it. RA doing the twisted

4:50

history of hockey was awesome. Jerry

4:52

Thornton. Jerry Thornton has been quite a

4:54

few. Yeah. Jerry Thornton has always

4:57

been good. To

4:57

Patty did, um, Senate live Patty

5:00

did Saturday night live has done a few chief

5:02

has done a few Clemmas done. I think at

5:05

least one, maybe two. He definitely

5:07

did wrestling. Did Jeff D. Lo do history of

5:09

game shows? Uh, reality TV reality

5:11

TV. Yeah. Uh, Ken Jack did one to

5:14

Ken. Yes. Con. Yeah.

5:17

Uh, the one time Don, the one time Don, the twisted

5:19

history of, uh, conquerors or

5:21

explorers.

5:23

There's actually been a bunch of

5:25

people. I don't think Robbie's a smitty had done. The

5:27

twisted history of hoaxes. Yeah. Stu

5:30

finer done too.

5:31

I think one of the best interview I've ever, uh, interviews

5:33

I've ever done.

5:35

I've been lucky enough to interview a lot of people with boxing

5:37

NASCAR and obviously with barstool breakfast.

5:39

So I'm not saying that lightly. I'm just lucky enough

5:41

to have done it. One of the best interviews I've done was

5:43

a twisted history is to find a part one. Yes.

5:46

One of the worst ones I've ever done was twisted history

5:49

is to find a part two and that was beyond my

5:51

control and it was very much in Stu's

5:53

control. And he said, if I come back, I will never be that

5:55

high again. Um, Jerry Cudi did

5:57

the sweet science. Jerry Cudi care.

5:59

And was on cons yeah,

6:02

Kate. We also did um Kate

6:05

sang for us. She wrote a song yes, yeah

6:09

Did Eddie do Al Capone? Eddie

6:11

did Al Capone Maybe the Titanic

6:13

or chief did the Titanic chief did the Irish

6:16

one with me to Jordan Barry

6:18

did Disney Yeah,

6:20

Jordan. Yeah, that's that's a

6:22

good one

6:23

Alex Ben came in for

6:25

part of I think Oklahoma one I

6:28

think we had smokes in here So yeah So my

6:30

point is and I know I'm missing people and I apologize

6:32

for that the point is is that you know kind

6:35

of takes a village And then it

6:37

just takes one person to cancel the whole fucking thing But

6:39

it's everyone who's spent time doing this because

6:41

it's a lift like it's it's a lift and

6:44

even though it seems like You know we

6:46

purposely made it so I would be a teacher

6:49

and Vibs would be a student because obviously dichotomy

6:51

between us body types Ages and

6:53

whatnot it seems to lend well to that and

6:56

that's not an easy lift for a guy

6:58

like Vibs come in and be like What if I'm not into

7:00

it? So he's faked his way, you know,

7:02

believe me I'm married to a woman who knows how to fake

7:04

her way through certain things Right

7:06

because not twisted history. Yeah, but so

7:09

Fucking God send for

7:12

us and then obviously Saint Anne very few

7:14

times Do people get to work with their wives

7:17

and enjoy it? I've always enjoyed working

7:19

for my wives of my wives of my

7:21

concubine But

7:28

yeah, so we were working together very close Annie

7:30

and I and I know people who have listened to twist history

7:32

of 9-11 And whatnot got a little peek

7:34

into our beginning of our relationship

7:37

We started dating we were on the floor of the American

7:39

and New York stock exchanges She was New York

7:41

and I was American But when I came over to

7:43

New York, we worked pretty closely never

7:46

for the same company But we worked pretty closely to where we

7:48

saw each other every day we could commute except

7:50

when I would go out at night with customers, which I did more

7:52

often than any because I was

7:55

You know, I was on I

7:56

was just on that side of the business. She was more of a two-dollar

7:59

burger

8:00

So, when we stopped working together, for

8:03

whatever reason, we've always liked

8:05

to do stuff with each other. So, this became

8:07

an outlet for us to

8:10

do stuff together. And

8:12

the benefit for Annie is coming into the office

8:14

where people like her more than me, I think

8:16

is always a very good experience.

8:19

And it's weird when

8:21

a husband gets to say, hey, can you all of a sudden pull up what

8:23

we did about cats being serial killers yesterday?

8:25

And she's like, oh yeah, I'll grab that for you.

8:27

So, anyways, that's a blessing

8:30

too. I think it's good for a marriage. A lot

8:32

of people comment on us that we have a good marriage and hate

8:34

them, oh shit. It's weird when you come into

8:36

the office and Anne's not here. It's like, oh, ugh.

8:38

Ooh, what happened? Okay, it's just you by yourself.

8:41

Yeah, people look past me. But

8:44

that's fine. So my point is,

8:46

and then obviously it's John. So John

8:49

is, John does a lot of projects.

8:52

John doesn't have a lot of singular

8:54

stuff like I work

8:56

on Out and About, or I work on

9:00

Lowering the Bar. John's a special

9:02

project guy. He's higher up than a lot

9:04

of other producers here. So,

9:06

yeah, so John

9:08

is very good at what he does. He's

9:10

very fucking handsome. For people

9:12

who never watch the YouTube or never got to see John in real

9:14

life, you missed out.

9:16

The guy is stunning. I'm

9:18

trying to think, I might do my John and Fred as

9:21

he like tussles his hair back. Yeah,

9:23

it fucking annoys me because he'll

9:25

cut his hair short and shave his

9:28

beard and I'll see him the following week and he'll have

9:30

a beard and long hair again. Like I can't understand.

9:32

Yeah, sometimes he'll be laying there. Sometimes

9:34

he sits back and he'll scratch his belly and then he's got a six

9:36

pack.

9:36

It's very bizarre. Yeah,

9:41

and I know that John, since we

9:43

were lucky enough to have Jack help out, John has become

9:45

the voice of God on a lot of these things. But

9:47

again, like through the development of it, John's

9:50

always been a supporter of me personally, which

9:52

is very nice to have. Like it's very nice

9:54

to have because he does have a sports bent

9:57

to him, but he's always like enjoyed working with

9:59

people who are outside the bar. the sporting world here

10:01

at Barstool, which isn't an easy thing

10:03

to fucking be. Vibs can attest

10:05

to that, I can attest to that, but Jon's always worked

10:07

with me, worked with Francis a lot,

10:10

you know like. And Dave, he's, yeah

10:12

he's. Yeah, yeah so I

10:13

think he's. Yeah Dave depends on him a lot and I don't think people realize

10:16

that. He's, Jon's as, you

10:18

know. I mean I'll say too, I mean, when

10:20

I hopped into this little group with all

10:22

y'all, like I was in a tough spot here too, having,

10:25

you know, trying to really find my place just coming

10:27

off of like that intern period Jon instantly

10:29

just scooped me up, brought me in, and

10:31

he's been guiding me with doing all of this as well.

10:34

So a lot of anything I've been

10:36

doing for this show, it's been through

10:38

the watching eye of Jon and can't thank

10:40

him enough for it. He's the wind beneath our wings. Yeah.

10:43

Yes, Jesus. Especially

10:44

with me because I came in completely

10:47

blind because I knew that we were gonna

10:49

do this, it was something we had talked about for years, and

10:52

then he, you know, he showed me how to do

10:54

everything from logging

10:56

into Twitter and uploading videos

10:59

and he definitely, it was definitely a labor of love more

11:01

than, because I don't know if he

11:03

wasn't just a big hearted guy if he would have

11:05

done that. Yeah. That's why I'm so upset that it's

11:07

ending. Like there are certain things that I, you

11:10

know, that I've been involved with and

11:12

when it's ended, it's been okay,

11:15

and other ones that broke my heart. Obviously barstool breakfast

11:17

was a much bigger serious thing but

11:19

you know, like leaving my friendship with Willie, even

11:22

though we're friends, we just saw each other the last week again, like

11:26

you know, doing that was, obviously it was a heartbreak

11:28

for me, and so I feel similar

11:30

about this. I mean, out

11:32

of everyone who's involved with this, the biggest

11:34

lift for this thing was me, 100%. I

11:36

take all the fucking credit in the world, so I'm

11:38

not fucking jealous about that because sometimes

11:41

trying to fucking make sure everything that we talk about here

11:43

is correct was fucking, it was a term

11:45

paper every week, like I had said, but

11:48

it was definitely a labor of love. So anyway,

11:51

so we're, you know, just shy of 200 episodes and

11:55

that's first of the month. So

11:57

many people are saying that they're gonna go back and start listening

11:59

from the, the beginning. Every

12:01

time they should write an email about how great it

12:03

was and send it to the power

12:05

system. We're gonna talk about it during the show too like

12:07

how it's going to like what the next iteration

12:09

is going to be and you guys can let me know whether

12:12

or not and please don't be like no no just

12:14

keep it as podcast because podcast is done but

12:16

we're gonna try and see if we can

12:18

figure out what we're gonna do on the next stop

12:20

to make it bigger on the blog social media

12:22

short-form video. Alright so that's it so

12:24

what's this Twisted History episode gonna be about? We're

12:27

gonna talk about the fans because the guys who listen to

12:29

this I think I very rarely get

12:31

hate mail and you know like if you

12:33

read a blog by Glennie I

12:36

just sometimes go right to the comments to learn new fat

12:38

jokes you know if you read a blog by

12:40

some of the girls here they can

12:43

be pretty fucking they can be pretty mean.

12:45

Dump them out. You know what I mean? Yeah yeah I

12:47

don't get a lot of that I know Vibs does I don't

12:49

get a lot of that and then particularly

12:51

on the DM side. Dump them out Vibs. My

12:54

DMs fucking light up and they're always pretty

12:56

pretty great. Some of them

13:01

I don't understand but they're pretty

13:03

good. I'm gonna have a couple today. Adam Weston

13:05

Brooke I think that's where you pronounce

13:07

last name. To the whole Twisted History

13:10

crew I will miss the long-form

13:12

podcast style so much that I plan to re-listen

13:15

to the entire catalog and that seems to

13:17

be a popular thing. Have fun. One

13:19

episode that stuck with me was Twisted History

13:21

of Emperors. Not that it was my favorite but

13:24

there was an emperor that was infatuated

13:26

with Calvary. Alright so I'll break

13:28

here. So at one point during the Twisted History

13:31

of Roman Emperors I decided to

13:33

go on a left turn towards other emperors

13:35

and I went to the Ottoman Empire and

13:37

in the Ottoman Empire there was a guy

13:40

whose name was Ibrahim the Mad. He

13:42

reigned as the Sultan of the Ottoman

13:44

Empire from 1640 to 1648 right? He grew up with

13:50

a harem. He was you know obviously extremely

13:52

wealthy from the time that he was born.

13:54

So his mother had provided him at a very young

13:56

age with a harem of nearly 300 women and then

13:59

when he

13:59

grew up, he had those 300 women

14:02

drown in a public execution. He

14:05

had them all sacks tied to the head,

14:07

weighted down, and he had all 300 drowned because

14:09

he was going to upgrade to new models, right? And

14:12

one time, as he was riding through the countryside,

14:15

he had seen a cow's vagina, and it turned

14:17

him on. So he had an artist come

14:19

out to that farm and draw

14:22

a sketch of this bovine organ,

14:24

right? And then he went and he took

14:26

that drawing and had it mass produced. He

14:29

sent copies all around his empire

14:31

with instructions to find a woman with

14:33

a similar looking vagina. And a woman

14:36

did match the parts almost exactly.

14:38

She was a 350-pound broad, and she wound up then

14:41

coming into his new harem and becoming his

14:43

favorite concubine, just like to bang

14:46

cowpussy. So that was Abraham

14:48

the Med. That's what this gentleman, Adam

14:50

Westenbrooke, is referring to. So

14:53

back to Adam's DM. This

14:55

is Adam speaking. Now I consider myself

14:57

a bit of a cow vagina expert. Well,

15:00

she'd clear that up, and he does. I walk by

15:03

thousands every day. I'm a dairy farmer.

15:06

Right, like that's, thank God. Thank you

15:08

for clearing that up. That said, I know

15:10

that cow vaginas come in all sorts of shapes

15:12

and sizes, and I was hoping you could give

15:15

me your expertise on what type

15:17

you think it might have been that the Med

15:19

Sultan preferred. And then he proceeded

15:21

to send me multiple pics of

15:24

bovine boxes under three categories.

15:27

Fat cow vaginas, skinny cow vaginas,

15:30

and medium cow vaginas.

15:34

Don't send me any more of those. That's

15:36

the whole thing, Vibs. If you had

15:38

to, and I know, right? Like how

15:40

much would you, if you had to, which

15:43

one do you think you'd put yourself in? I'm not showing you the pictures

15:45

of it. Do you think you'd go for a fat, skinny, or medium-sized

15:48

cow vagina? Man, I think if you're into cow vaginas,

15:50

you're going fat. You want the fattest vagina you

15:52

can find. Yeah, yeah. I

15:55

want a little medium, I think. You're a medium?

15:57

A little strut to it, a little moo. I'd moo.

15:59

I'm a skinny cow all the way. Yeah. I

16:04

don't think this guy waited though for someone to go find

16:06

a human. Like I think this guy fucked a cow

16:08

vagina, you know what I mean? Yeah, no doubt. Not

16:10

the man Sultan did. Not the guy who sent

16:12

us the thing. Yeah, we're not talking about Adam Westenbrook,

16:15

but I believe that Abraham the Med had

16:18

probably had sex with a cow vagina.

16:20

I'd probably go with a puffy fat cow vagina

16:22

too, and I would obviously reach around

16:24

and give the others a little play thing while I'm in

16:26

there. What do we start?

16:28

The question you're doing size is not like sweet

16:30

and sour. Like isn't that a food in Korea?

16:33

Don't they have a sweet and sour cow

16:34

vagina? Yeah, I believe you do.

16:36

Yeah, you can eat uterus. Yeah. So

16:39

you're leaving out the, you know. How would that be?

16:41

Sweet and sour, anything's good. How

16:44

would that be for a short form video? Not me

16:46

banging a cow. But how would it be if I was like, hey

16:48

everybody, Twisted History, back in the

16:50

Ottoman Empire in the 1640s, Abraham

16:52

the Med, the Sultan. Like

16:54

that would be an okay story, right?

16:57

So I think that's what I'm gonna try and do.

16:59

VIMS is gonna try and do. You're gonna flash up pictures

17:01

of cow vagina. Jack is gonna try

17:03

and do, and he's gonna try and do. Yeah, yeah, no,

17:05

I think it's one of those things where. They're gonna be

17:08

sick of us. Particularly that type,

17:10

that length of story might be something

17:12

that fits in.

17:13

So. DMs are great for that. That's

17:15

why I'm hoping people continue to send DMs. No

17:18

vagina pictures, but that's

17:21

it. Another perfect example is

17:24

this guy, Davis Bryant. He sent in three

17:26

topics, all North Carolina related.

17:28

And the first one was, do you know America's only

17:31

successful coup d'etat occurred

17:33

in Wilmington, North Carolina? I

17:37

could start a short form video like that, don't you

17:39

think? Yeah, mm-hmm. Right? Yeah,

17:42

and then. I think did you know, it was just a great

17:44

jumping off. Yeah, always. Right, that's

17:46

how I posited, but he was saying, so

17:49

I think that's what I'm gonna do. And

17:52

go that way, because sometimes I can go down rabbit

17:55

holes that are very long. But

17:58

if it's two, three minutes.

17:59

Four minutes, that might be the sweet spot.

18:02

Yeah, yeah. So in addition to cow

18:04

vaginas, you could talk about cow blowing and how they

18:06

blow into a cow's vagina to produce milk, like stuff

18:08

like that, and pour it into a deep way.

18:10

What? Yeah, you could do follow-ups.

18:13

You could do follow-ups. You know what, you got

18:15

it. You can take it from here. You got all the cow vagina

18:17

stuff going for you. But I'm just saying that I'm

18:19

throwing this out there. My videos are like 220,

18:23

and they're always like, oh, maybe a minute, minute and

18:25

a half. Is that what they say? I was like, how can you get it

18:27

in the minute, minute and a half? Right, I don't know if I can. I

18:30

don't know,

18:30

you worked on the floor. You speak pretty quick. We

18:33

told a story the other day about a guy who jumped out of an

18:35

airplane or ejected out of an airplane at 47,000 feet. It

18:38

took him 40 minutes to hit the ground, and

18:40

I think that'd be something cool. That is cool. Like,

18:42

you know what I mean? To say like what had happened, he had to keep his mouth

18:44

shut, otherwise he would have drowned. Record

18:46

it at your pace, and then that's where the editing comes

18:49

in. Yeah. And you trim the fat, so it's just

18:51

a minute, or a minute 30, whatever.

18:52

We could speed it up, but go from, we

18:54

could slide a little rabbit, a little rabbit on the

18:56

bottom. I think

18:57

that would, I think that's a shot. Trim the fat. Yeah,

19:00

all fibs. But the

19:02

idea of there being a coup d'etat in Wilmington,

19:05

North Carolina is a perfect

19:07

example of what we've done here so many times

19:09

on Twisted History. It's that hidden history. That

19:11

stuff that doesn't get taught in schools for some reason. And

19:14

I'm sure it's gonna start to get taught in schools, maybe

19:17

just using old textbooks. I didn't

19:19

know about it. Once the takeover happens, you're

19:21

gonna talk about it. I don't know if I

19:23

can just casually throw around the

19:25

word coup d'etat, and everybody here knows what it means.

19:29

It's normally short and to coup, but

19:31

it's violent. Most importantly, it's an unlawful

19:34

seizure of power from a government. So

19:36

if you think the government's doing a bad job, you overthrow

19:38

them, and what you do when you overthrow them is you

19:40

perform a coup d'etat. That's,

19:42

everyone's kinda cool with that, I think. Secondly,

19:45

another reminder that because the timeline

19:48

can get foggy, before I go

19:50

on with this, the 13th Amendment to the US

19:52

Constitution was ratified in 1865, 1865. And

19:58

the 13th Amendment. right, is

20:00

the one that abolished slavery in the United

20:02

States. This time it's called the emancipation.

20:05

Okay. 1865. That's

20:08

when it comes out in 1898.

20:12

Okay. So 30 some odd years later, a

20:14

group of white rebels, angry and fearful

20:17

at the newly elected biracial local

20:19

government joined forces with area

20:21

militias to reign terror on

20:23

Wilmington, North Carolina, which

20:25

was then the South's most progressive black

20:28

majority city.

20:30

So in the, what's that? They had like a bunch of people in

20:32

like an office, like senators and people

20:34

in the house. It was extremely, extremely

20:38

progressive for,

20:39

you know, the 18th century, right? No,

20:43

the 19th century. Cause once we got the 19th,

20:45

it became 20th. So we're talking about 19th

20:47

century. I know very late 19th century,

20:49

but you had a lot of black people

20:52

in,

20:53

in office. In the years leading up to 1898, Wilmington

20:56

stood as the most progressive city in the American

20:58

South, nearly 126,000 black men in Wilmington were registered

21:03

voters. That's important. Right.

21:05

And the city's flourishing black middle-class

21:08

boasted 65 doctors, a shitload of

21:10

lawyers and educators. The town contained

21:12

scores of black restaurant owners, public health

21:14

workers, members of the police force

21:17

and fire department were black. It's 1898.

21:21

So just three decades after the emancipation,

21:24

black Republicans held multiple

21:26

positions of power serving as city councilmen,

21:29

magistrates, and other elected officials.

21:32

That's the Vibs' point. Then came

21:34

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twisted. And when they overthrew

22:23

this government, no one was ever

22:26

prosecuted or punished for it. More

22:28

than 100,000 registered black voters fled

22:31

the city and no black citizen

22:33

would again serve in public office for

22:36

three quarters of a century. That

22:38

seems kind of important to me.

22:39

It seems like an important part of American

22:42

history that we had the most progressive city

22:44

in the American South and we

22:46

essentially drove

22:48

every successful black person

22:51

out of it and we set the city back 75

22:54

fucking years, right? Nobody

22:57

ever speaks about it. It's kind

22:58

of like what they did in Seneca Village in the

23:00

city. Oh, we've done it. I mean, we've done it multiple

23:02

times throughout history. We,

23:05

Americans have done this multiple times

23:07

throughout their history and sometimes it gets a little bit more

23:09

play than others, but I didn't know about it. And

23:11

especially it being officially, like

23:14

that checks all the boxes on being a coup d'etat.

23:16

So I'm appreciative that Davis sent this

23:18

in. And again, these little quick

23:21

hitters

23:22

are the type of shit that I think that I can talk about.

23:24

I don't know how long it took for me to get that out, but

23:26

I can of course try to trim that up.

23:28

Then this guy goes on, sends me another

23:30

one.

23:31

You ever hear of the Goldsboro B-52 crash, which

23:34

accidentally dropped a couple of nuclear bombs in

23:36

North Carolina? Does anyone know about it? No.

23:39

No. No fucking way. Accidentally,

23:40

by the way, is a crazy

23:42

thing. And that's right in that

23:44

1961, right? So this is

23:46

modern.

23:46

Yeah. A B-52 Stratofortress.

23:50

Boeing B-52 Stratofortresses have

23:52

been around forever and obviously they get upgrades and upgrades

23:54

and stuff like that. But this one was carrying a

23:57

pair of four megaton Mark 39

23:59

nuclear.

23:59

bombs.

24:01

So it's carrying two big nuclear bombs and

24:03

it broke up in midair after rendezvous with one

24:05

of those tankers for aerial refueling,

24:08

that cool shit that happens. Yeah, a little

24:10

hose coming out. Yeah and I think

24:12

it like wet the wings or something like that. So

24:15

anyway this whole fucking plane broke apart

24:17

and it had two nukes on it

24:20

so it had to drop its nuclear payload on

24:22

US soil. Three of the eight crew

24:24

members died, the rest ejected

24:27

safely from the aircraft. The two bombs

24:29

landed in tobacco and cotton farmland in

24:32

Faroe, North Carolina. The yield

24:34

of each of these bombs,

24:36

I'm gonna give it a little

24:38

spoiler, the bombs didn't go off. The yield

24:41

of each of these bombs was more than 250 times

24:43

the destructive power of the Hiroshima

24:45

bomb. It was large, these bombs each

24:47

were large enough to create a hundred

24:50

percent kill zone in a radius of

24:52

just under nine miles. So if either

24:54

of these motherfuckers which just dropped out

24:56

of a, you

24:57

know, a Stratofortress were to

24:59

have detonated nine miles

25:02

of absolute nothing in North

25:04

Carolina. The first descended by parachute.

25:07

Parachute goes off and it was found intact

25:09

and standing upright

25:11

as a result of the parachute being caught in

25:13

a tree. So this thing had a soft landing where

25:15

it was literally standing upright in the air sort

25:17

of like a cartoon. The second there

25:19

was no shoot to deploy so it plunged

25:22

into a muddy field at around 700 miles

25:24

an hour when it hit the ground.

25:26

So yeah, four megaton

25:28

nuclear bomb hits the ground at 700

25:31

miles an hour.

25:33

It disintegrated without detonation

25:36

of its conventional explosives and

25:38

the tail was discovered 20 feet below

25:40

the ground. So that's how far this fucking

25:42

thing and John is, right? Most

25:44

of the thermo, so

25:46

the bomb was partially armed when it left the aircraft

25:49

and unclosed high voltage switch

25:51

presented, prevented it from fully arming.

25:53

Thank God. And the excavation of the

25:55

second bomb was eventually abandoned as a result

25:58

of uncontrollable groundwater. flooding.

26:00

They just couldn't get to the whole thing. So

26:02

most of the thermonuclear stage of the bomb was

26:05

left in place, but the pit

26:07

or the core containing the uranium

26:09

and the plutonium which is needed to trigger

26:11

a nuclear explosion that was removed.

26:14

The nuclear part of the nuclear bomb was

26:17

removed but some of the bomb is still

26:19

there. So the United States Army Corps

26:21

of Engineers purchased a 400 foot diameter.

26:24

It's a circular easement over the buried compartment

26:27

and it's still there. The side of the easement

26:30

is clearly visible as a circle

26:32

of trees in the middle of a plow field on

26:34

Google Earth. I looked it up. It's not that exciting

26:37

but it's there. You look at a field and

26:39

all of a sudden in the field looks like a crater

26:41

that's surrounded by trees and University

26:44

of North Carolina Chapel Hill determined the buried

26:46

depth of the secondary component

26:49

now is around 180 plus

26:51

or minus 10 feet. So this thing is 180 feet down.

26:53

Yeah I didn't know

26:54

that. If you

26:56

want to learn more about this crash you can watch the popular

26:58

TV series Mayday. The episode

27:02

is called Oops. By the way I've gotten so much Mayday

27:08

mail too.

27:09

People love Mayday

27:11

and apparently it's still around but in a different

27:13

title or something like that like they rebranded Mayday.

27:15

I don't know why you rebrand

27:18

such a perfect show and again that's

27:20

one that John watches with the sound

27:22

off and a blanket over his lap. And

27:25

then finally this guy Davis also mentions

27:27

a third thing it's called the devil's tramping

27:29

ground. Davis is very very North Carolina

27:32

thing yeah and it's just a weird thing it's

27:34

a 40-foot ring

27:36

in the forests of North Carolina because

27:38

that's what we need another 40-foot ring when

27:40

nothing grows because it's where the devil walks in

27:42

circles on certain nights thinking of ways to

27:44

bring his evil into the world. That's a fact. Talk

27:46

about it's creepy. The area

27:49

between the balls and the asshole

27:51

the taint is the devil's tramping ground.

27:53

Yeah so

27:56

like that's one of things that I'm very I don't know

27:58

I'm a pretty

27:59

appreciative, that people have always sent

28:02

in stuff like this. We're going

28:03

to get a ton more now. I love this. This is great.

28:06

But you know what I mean? Sometimes

28:09

people, when I was doing Take a Report, which was

28:11

a blog that I had started back in 2007. It

28:14

was so much fun. People used to send me stuff

28:16

being like, oh Lord, you're going to love this. And I click on it

28:18

and it was like lemon porn. It was like elderly

28:22

Russian women being fucked

28:24

by young men. I'm like, we don't have

28:27

anything in common. Go on. Yeah. You

28:30

know

28:30

what? Our kids were so little because we didn't

28:32

even have the second one yet. No. We

28:34

just had to make them so little. It was the kind of thing you'd be like, look at this

28:37

at the

28:37

dinner table. Yeah. But you know, when

28:39

you have a general type

28:42

piece of content,

28:43

people send you general type stuff, but this started

28:45

to get a little bit pigeonholed and I appreciate it. I'm looking at

28:47

the devil's tramping ground. Yeah.

28:50

It's not impressive. I get it.

28:52

But now listen to me. This

28:55

is the whole deal. I had to read up on this thing because

28:58

I knew if somebody looked at it, they're going to be like nothing. Nothing

29:01

grows in there. Yeah.

29:02

It's like my old backyard. Stuff

29:04

grows everywhere else. And it winds

29:06

up that one of the reason nothing grows

29:08

inside the tramping ground is that it

29:11

has a high salt content. So

29:13

they think it might have at some point been a storage

29:15

for salt licks for whatever. The

29:18

shape, like a side of the bottom. Which makes sense, but

29:21

it's just not true. It's because that's where the devil

29:23

walks in a circle, finding

29:26

where he's going to bring evil into it.

29:27

Well, you remember the house that I grew up in, the

29:29

backyard had like, it was just a black

29:32

circle. The grass was in the middle. Grass

29:34

was on the outside, but there was a black ring.

29:36

It was like someone drew a Sharpie circle in our backyard.

29:39

And for years we didn't know why it was like that. And

29:41

then someone's like, oh, that's because you bought the house that

29:45

was possessed. And I'm like, oh yeah, right, right.

29:47

So I asked my mom, I'm like, when we bought this house,

29:49

like, who'd you buy it from? She's like, oh, we bought it from the

29:51

church. We got it for a steal. I

29:55

don't like that. They destroyed that house after we said,

29:57

no, I didn't like that either. It was, it was very

29:59

bizarre. are wacky things always were

30:01

happening.

30:02

I think this is going to be one too that you guys

30:04

will think is good short form video. Jesse

30:06

McDade, I don't know if you remember, but he sent in a DM

30:08

saying Babe Ruth may or may not have killed his wife.

30:10

Yes. And I made fun of his name,

30:12

saying that he was a cowboy, right?

30:14

Jesse McDade. Yeah, Jesse McDade. I

30:17

don't think I call him a big cowboy or

30:19

something like that. The McDade boys have

30:21

been hiding out up in those hills. You say the McDade

30:23

boys, it's so fucking weird that you said

30:25

that, Vibs, because that's exactly what this guy's thing

30:27

is about. And again, this is out of nowhere.

30:30

Jesse McDade hits me. Thanks for sharing the story

30:32

on last week's episode. And the bit about

30:34

my name sounding like a cowboy had me cracking

30:37

up. Unfortunately, the McDade

30:39

brothers are just the McDade brothers.

30:42

That's what he said. Like Dave. And

30:44

it made me try to remember if he mentioned

30:46

originally having a brother at any point

30:49

and he didn't. He just mentioned that. But

30:51

he reeled you in, didn't he? He got you. But

30:53

why did he reference the McDade brothers in the

30:55

second DM?

30:57

And then he gives me the answer. I

30:59

used McDade brothers since I was supposed to have a twin,

31:01

but I absorbed him in the womb.

31:03

Oh, he's talking about... So he's

31:06

singularly talking about himself with the McDade

31:08

brothers. That's just fabulous.

31:10

At first I was like, that's... I love that. I don't

31:13

know how I feel about it.

31:14

I think I love it. You don't know how you feel about it. Yeah, I love

31:16

it. Not everybody

31:17

knows it. Most famously, Elvis's

31:19

twin brother, Jesse Garin Bresley, was born 35 minutes

31:21

before Elvis but died at birth. The

31:23

next day he was buried in a shoebox. Elvis's

31:26

brother was buried in a shoebox. In

31:28

Priceville Cemetery, he might have had to move to Graceland

31:30

at some point. He's Zach Graceland. I think

31:32

he's Zach Graceland now. Jesse Garin Bresley, he was his

31:35

twin brother. I thought I was A-dom. Yeah,

31:37

that's what... Yeah, it was absorbed. Covered him in peanut butter

31:39

banana. Ooh, I don't know about that. That was a good

31:41

Elvis. Are you jealous? I'm a lot jealous. You're

31:44

jealous? I'm

31:45

a lot jealous. He's jealous that you did a good one. Very

31:47

much. Sugar mama, I'm going to eat my twin brother. He's going to go to the

31:49

little side smirk. I want you all to go down and get that polio shot. I'm going to eat my twin

31:51

brother. He's going to go to the little side smirk. Liberace,

31:59

do you guys know...

31:59

Liberace is? Yeah, what did

32:02

I just watch? Behind

32:04

the candelabra with nothing. I

32:06

watched dirty work and like

32:08

a little Nicky all

32:11

the time like all right Liberace. 2000s

32:15

wild time. Yeah really was. Liberace

32:18

was something else. Dead gay

32:20

or Jewish?

32:21

All three. I'm gonna go with three. I think he's all three.

32:25

He's definitely dead and he was definitely gay. I don't

32:27

know if he was Jewish. He might have been Italian.

32:30

Dead gay or Jewish? Liberace sounds very Italian. We,

32:32

we, Annie and I used to play that game like if somebody

32:35

like a Ricardo Montavar. She's giving away what

32:37

keeps our marriage alive. Dead gay or Jewish. He's not Jewish.

32:39

I don't know if he's alive. Is that gay? I

32:41

think

32:43

his mother was Jewish and his father was Protestant.

32:45

He was raised Catholic. Okay. He is.

32:48

He's a parent. His parents

32:50

were Polish

32:51

and Italian. Yes. He's of Polish

32:53

and Italian descent. Okay.

32:55

I'll give him all three. So

32:57

Liberace, Sophie Turner, I

32:59

believe she's married to a Jonas brother. She was Sansa

33:01

from Game of Thrones. They had similar

33:04

stories with siblings, twin siblings

33:06

that died at birth. Jackson

33:08

five singer Marlon Jackson

33:10

had a twin brother Brandon who died the

33:12

day they were born. So we were very close to having the

33:15

Jackson six. I don't think people realize

33:17

we were very close. Wow. He was the most talented of all of them. They were

33:19

gonna name him Bubbles. He's

33:20

like the Peyton one. What do you

33:23

call it? The Manning one. Cooper.

33:25

That's ignorant. He's the best out of all. That's

33:28

kind of Mike

33:30

Tyson. That's a little Mike Tyson.

33:32

So

33:32

now he's doing... Please don't force

33:34

these. Michael Jackson. He's doing Elvis.

33:37

You gotta do somebody other than him. You gotta do

33:39

Eddie as Elvis. I killed

33:42

Eddie earlier.

33:43

So I'm feeling good about it. You

33:44

could do him as Elvis and as Mike. How would Eddie do Michael

33:46

Jackson? I don't know. I'll think about it. You could do him brawn.

33:48

You could do him back. Oh, I don't know.

33:51

Yeah. One of my favorite... Oh, man. I'm

33:54

saying my Masamamakusan. Right?

33:57

Fuck it. I'm saying my Masamamakusan.

33:59

Yeah. One

34:02

of my favorite actors is Andy Garcia. Fuck

34:05

you. Andy Garcia,

34:08

you know I like Andy Garcia. He's very smooth

34:10

except his body. Very very

34:12

handsome, he's very hair suit. Yeah you're right, he's very hairy.

34:15

He was in Things That Do In Denver When You're Dead.

34:17

Great movie. Boat drinks. And he's

34:19

in Godfather 3 unfortunately. And

34:21

a bunch of stuff, Ocean's 11 he played, who

34:24

Steve, the character that Steve Wynn was

34:26

the sort of the basis for. Andy

34:29

Garcia was born in Havana, Cuba in 1956 with

34:32

a conjoined twin on his shoulder.

34:34

Really? I'm sorry about that. Yes.

34:37

Eee. Poor fuck. So

34:40

the under, I don't know why I wrote this, the

34:43

undeveloped fetus, maybe Randy?

34:45

Oh, so Andy and Randy

34:47

Garcia was removed when Garcia

34:49

was a toddler. So it might be Andy and

34:51

Randy Garcia. And Randy was

34:53

the... He was in calm and he was like, I'm gonna show. They waited

34:55

a while. They did, they gave him a shot. That's

34:58

gross. Yeah.

35:00

Yeah, I don't know if I like... So all that,

35:02

so that comes from... Andy. Hey

35:05

everybody, I have a listener named McDade

35:08

who refers to himself as McDade Brothers. And he doesn't.

35:10

I love that. He doesn't refer to himself as the McDade

35:12

Brothers. He did in a DM to me. I

35:14

should put that out there and make that 100% clear.

35:16

Does he call himself we? No, no. Instead

35:18

of I, like in the first, what's his first person? I don't know.

35:21

So anyway, Liberace, Sophie, Marlin, and

35:25

Andy and Randy Garcia. By

35:27

the way, it's gonna be a quick episode. Somebody's just, why don't you make

35:30

the last episode that you guys do

35:32

like hours and hours long.

35:34

So when he has sex, it's always a three-summer.

35:36

Yeah, that's true. As we go.

35:41

We, we man. Yeah.

35:46

Remember when Hillary Clinton lost the election and

35:48

SNL did the fucking skit

35:50

like she died? Yeah, yeah. Hmm.

35:53

That was fun. That was history. That

35:56

was history. Girl.

36:01

Girl. K, or is it with a C? C, double

36:03

C, K-C karate, C squared. Male.

36:06

Male. Hey, Large, sorry to hear about Twisted History.

36:09

I thought you guys were great at bringing insight and tough historical

36:11

subjects, we're still having fun.

36:12

I recently read a book about the lost battalion

36:15

of World War I. Thought you said it was a dude, not a chick.

36:17

Yeah, yeah. But I found the most interesting

36:19

chapter to be the first one. Because

36:21

it covered the explosion of Black Tom

36:25

in New York heart. This

36:26

is wild, by the way. Yeah. You

36:28

were telling me this story, and I think people are gonna love this.

36:30

Yeah. I said the explosion of Black Tom.

36:33

All I could think about was a guy like

36:35

Doug's size. Just kind of blew up.

36:38

That's not at all. There was

36:40

a target explosion by German spies in 1916. One

36:43

year prior to the US entry into

36:45

World War I caused over a half

36:47

a billion in today's currency.

36:50

That's how much damage it caused. Immilitarion

36:52

armory damage. It was recorded as

36:54

one of the largest non-nuclear explosion in

36:57

the world's history and caused so much

36:59

damage to the Statue of Liberty that the torch

37:01

was closed to the public.

37:03

Do you guys know about Black Tom? I, no.

37:06

There's, tell me that in

37:08

school. So, yeah, just

37:10

because on PBS they'll have

37:12

some World War I docs, and there was

37:15

a bomb that went off on like Wall Street that

37:17

was allegedly like German, I don't

37:21

know, whatever, rebels or whatever. And

37:23

then there was one attack on America during

37:27

World War I, and it was the New York Harbor.

37:29

But you learned about this on your own. On my

37:31

own, yeah, no, never in school. No, I

37:33

had to go into a deep,

37:36

deep dive on the PBS documentary

37:38

app. I think the Wall Street one was Italian.

37:41

Of course it was. Rosie O'Donnell

37:44

and me knew that. Yeah, we Italians. We'll

37:46

have to find out. But yeah, I

37:48

want, well, I'll get into this story, right?

37:51

Because what was Black Tom, first of all,

37:53

sounds racist.

37:54

When I search any topic, 99

37:57

times out of 100,

37:59

you get a wiki page.

37:59

up top. So I use that as

38:02

a security blanket. Like

38:04

I go deeper into the woods, weeds, to

38:07

read about stuff, but I always go to wiki to get like ages

38:09

and stuff and whatever. It's a great

38:11

resource. Everybody knows that.

38:14

But search black Tom

38:16

and the first site that pops up is the FBI's

38:18

archives. Never gotten that before. Never gotten that

38:20

before, you know 190 fucking episodes.

38:23

So I had to click on it and it winds up that

38:25

they recount history that they've

38:27

been involved with with like an author's touch.

38:30

So when you go to read about black Tom, this is how the FBI,

38:32

the FBI, this is the real FBI, their

38:35

website starts. The morning of July 30th 1916, the sky suddenly

38:38

exploded with unnatural brilliance.

38:43

Kind of cool.

38:45

Too late for the joke, but FBI, you mean the female

38:47

body inspector.

38:49

Yeah, right. Coleman

38:51

headed it so that made sense. Two

38:55

million tons of

38:57

war materials

38:58

packed into train cars had blown up in

39:00

the black Tom railroad yard on

39:03

what is now part of Liberty State Park. It

39:05

was an artificial island built with landfill.

39:08

The name black Tom is said to

39:10

come from a dark skined fisherman who

39:13

lived on the island for many years.

39:15

So if you look at it on a map, and I didn't include a map,

39:18

if you look right off of wherever this

39:20

is Hoboken Jersey City, there's a man-made

39:23

island

39:24

that was a hub for barges

39:27

and railroad track cars and it was

39:29

called black Tom. Kind of just south of the Statue

39:31

of Liberty. Well if you're driving for those who commute

39:34

in New York City or to New York, if

39:36

you get off the turnpike at 15x and

39:38

you go over the over that ramp that goes

39:40

up, you're driving over

39:41

it. Yeah. So this was,

39:45

anyone who can drive the turnpike?

39:48

That was hot right? Please

39:51

don't start her with fucking directions. My

39:54

wife's family talks about directions the

39:56

way I speak about recipes.

39:58

Like you know what I mean? What did you do? with this, oh I put

40:00

anchovies in the bay. So what did you do, anchovies,

40:03

you know, put a use? It was me and my dad. I think it's

40:06

a North Jersey thing because I get the same thing

40:08

nowadays for my grandma and aunt who are from up here and

40:10

I'm like I'm just gonna put it in ways. I don't care.

40:13

I don't care. I really don't care. I

40:15

think it's just old people, they love driving

40:17

used to be a bigger home. What are you saying? Well no, I'm sorry.

40:20

How many even 50? You're saying

40:22

old people. No, let me, cause my

40:24

grandparents and my dad would be like did

40:26

you take State Road 52 up or

40:28

did you take 65? I

40:31

didn't say if you're driving off 15 bucks. Oh you kinda do.

40:33

They wanna know.

40:33

You kinda do say it like that. So

40:37

this island next

40:39

to the Statue of Liberty was a major munitions

40:42

depot for the Northeastern United

40:44

States. Bullets and bombs came

40:46

through there and its munitions companies

40:48

earlier in the war could sell to

40:50

any buyer. So before we entered

40:53

World War I, and Annie was quick

40:55

to point this out to me, the United States

40:58

was able to sell bombs

41:00

and bullets to anybody. It didn't matter.

41:03

But the blockade of Germany

41:05

by the Royal Navy caused

41:07

us to only deal with the allied side.

41:10

More specifically, we

41:12

sold a lot of bombs and bullets to the Russians

41:15

and to the English. Okay? The

41:18

good guys. They were the good guys in World War I. As a result,

41:21

Imperial Germany sent spies

41:23

to the United States to disrupt the production

41:25

and delivery of war munitions that were intended

41:27

to kill German soldiers

41:29

on the battlefields of World War I.

41:31

That's what they did. So we're gonna go and we're gonna try

41:33

and get it at its source. It's a weird

41:35

time in our history. Casey

41:37

mentioned it above. We weren't officially in World

41:39

War I until April 1917.

41:42

But Germany was still skeptical about

41:44

our neutrality in 1916, especially

41:47

since we were supplying munitions to the

41:49

English.

41:50

So on the night of the Black Tom explosion,

41:53

again, July 30th, 1916. It's

41:56

the year before we get into the war.

41:57

About two million pounds.

42:00

of small arms and artillery ammunition

42:02

were stored at the depot in freight cars

42:05

and on barges, including a hundred

42:07

thousand pounds of TNT and 417 cases of

42:12

detonating fuses on one barge

42:14

called Johnson Barge number 17. All

42:17

were waiting to be shipped to Russia. This

42:19

is a shitload of ammunition, two million

42:21

pounds of small arms and

42:24

a hundred thousand pounds of TNT

42:27

and a shitload of wicks and they're all

42:29

on the same fucking island. So

42:31

here's what went down. After midnight, a series of

42:34

small fires were started on the pier

42:36

by German spies.

42:38

Some guards fled fearing an explosion.

42:40

Others attempted to fight the fires, eventually

42:43

called the Jersey City Fire Department. At 2.08

42:46

a.m., the first and largest of the explosions

42:48

took place. The second and smaller explosion

42:51

occurred around 2.40. So between 2.08

42:54

and 2.40. Just that Johnson

42:57

Barge that had all the TNT and

42:59

wicks on it,

43:00

that explosion created a detonation

43:03

wave that traveled 24,000

43:05

feet per second

43:06

with enough force to lift firefighters out

43:08

of their boots and into the air. Right?

43:11

That's movie theater shit, right? The whole

43:13

explosion was the equivalent of an earthquake

43:15

measuring between a five and a 5.5 on

43:18

the Richter and it was felt as far

43:20

away as Philadelphia.

43:22

Windows were broken

43:23

as far as 25 miles away,

43:26

including thousands of windows in lower

43:28

Manhattan. Some window panes

43:30

in Times Square was shattered. The stained

43:32

glass windows in St. Patrick's Church were destroyed.

43:35

The outer wall of Jersey City's City Hall

43:38

was cracked and the Brooklyn Bridge was shaken.

43:41

People as far away as Maryland were awakened

43:43

by what they thought was an earthquake.

43:45

Shrapnel pockmarked the Statue of Liberty.

43:47

Damage to the torch caused by it

43:50

caused the torch to be closed to the public after

43:53

the explosion and access was not even opened

43:55

after the 1984-1986 restoration. An immigrant's

43:59

who were at Ellis Island

44:01

after the explosion. Scared the shit out

44:04

of these immigrants, by the way, too. They had to

44:06

be moved to lower Manhattan. You know,

44:08

you think about a young Robert De Niro's

44:10

character, you know, and- I'm just

44:12

surprised it didn't set off a tsunami. I

44:15

mean, not that, I mean, I know that it has to come from the

44:17

ground shifting. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there was some flooding from

44:19

it. It's pretty shallow over there. Yeah, but

44:22

anyway, it rocked

44:24

everything around here. I never heard of this.

44:27

I mean, maybe I just wasn't paying attention. Amazingly,

44:30

only three men and a baby

44:33

were killed by the explosive act of sabotage.

44:36

And if you want to hear their stories, read the movie

44:38

Three Men and a Baby. And it's all about

44:40

that. Is it- no. No, no,

44:43

no, no, no, I didn't- Steve Gutenberg, Tom

44:46

Selleck, it's somebody else. Who's the

44:48

third? They get lost with a baby. Ted Danson?

44:50

Ted Danson is. Isn't that the one where there's a cardboard

44:53

cutout and they think it's a goat? Yes, and they think it's a dead

44:55

kid. What a fucking- The kid hung himself in the door, but

44:57

you could totally see it too. They totally played

44:59

it off. It's actually like an ad that has Ted Danson-

45:01

it's a cutout of Ted Danson, but everyone thinks

45:03

it's the ghost of the kid who hung himself. What do you think

45:06

he was dancing to? I don't know. So

45:08

Three Men and a Baby Were Killed has nothing to do with the movie.

45:11

But the explosion did destroy

45:13

more than 100 railroad cars, 13 warehouses.

45:17

It left a 375 by 175 foot crater on the island. So

45:23

it caused the island to become a crater. Property

45:25

damage from the attack was estimated at

45:27

the time to be 20 million. That's equivalent

45:30

to over a half a billion in 2023 numbers.

45:33

Again, we were officially neutral at the time. So

45:36

essentially we sued Germany afterwards.

45:38

We entered the war, we won the war,

45:41

and then afterwards in the war, people

45:43

get prosecuted for war crimes and

45:45

you can sue people. So we sued

45:48

Germany. We're gonna sue your ass. Yeah,

45:50

the Lehigh Valley railroads sought damages

45:52

against Germany by

45:54

the Treaty of Berlin from the German American

45:56

Mixed Claims Commission. The Mixed

45:58

Claims Commission declared in 19.

45:59

1939, 1979, that

46:02

Imperial Germany had been responsible

46:05

and awarded 50 million dollars, the

46:07

largest claim in damages of World War

46:09

I by somebody outside of a country, right, this

46:11

is the Lehigh Valley Railroad, which Nazi

46:13

Germany refused to pay.

46:15

The issue was finally settled in 1953 for 95 million

46:17

dollars.

46:19

They

46:21

tacked interest onto that

46:23

with the Federal Republic of Germany and

46:25

the Krauts were put on an installment plan and

46:27

the final payment was made in 1979 for an

46:29

incident that took

46:31

place 63

46:33

years before that. It's crazy. Yeah, I

46:35

think that's pretty cool. 53 to 79 is pretty good payment for that.

46:38

Yeah. For 95 million,

46:41

that's not bad. 63 years to

46:43

get 95 million

46:46

for a

46:46

half a billion dollars worth of structural

46:49

damage so that we got wrong. Okay,

46:52

yeah, that's great. Yeah, let me think about it. Let's

46:54

see. Let's go to the railroad. That's

46:56

not like St. Patrick didn't sue him or

46:58

anything like that. I've been to Lehigh Valley. They could use

47:01

all the money they could. Oh, shit. But

47:03

more than the money, the Black Tom explosion resulted

47:06

in the establishment of domestic intelligence agencies

47:08

across the United States, similar to the way

47:10

that 9-11 fucked everything up and

47:12

made everyone have to take off their shoes and do

47:15

certain things due to the Patriot

47:16

Act. This was their

47:19

Patriot Act of the time, the Black

47:21

Tom explosion. And the explosion

47:23

played a role in how the future presidents responded

47:25

to military conflict. This isn't a positive,

47:28

but FDR used the

47:30

Black Tom explosion as part of his

47:32

rationale for the internment of Japanese

47:34

Americans after the attack on Pearl Harbor

47:36

in 1941.

47:38

So that didn't work out too well for us as far

47:40

as the history books go. We rounded up Japanese

47:42

people and we put them in fucking barracks. I

47:44

believe we killed their dogs and

47:46

stuff like that. I wrote

47:48

about that at some point. And the

47:50

Germans made many similar acts of

47:52

terrorism on American soil before

47:54

we entered the war. And a bunch of them were

47:56

in New Jersey.

47:58

Like I know you mentioned Wall Street.

47:59

But New Jersey got hit the hardest by German

48:02

spies pre-World War

48:04

I. Which I think is wild. Well, we're

48:06

a big depot. Like it winds up that we were a big,

48:08

like in East Coast storage

48:10

for weapons and munitions. New

48:13

Jersey is the Garden State and apparently was

48:15

the Bullet State back then. So we housed

48:17

a lot of stuff that was then being shipped overseas.

48:20

It does make sense.

48:20

I know, and a lot of it was done in Patterson, which I think

48:23

people don't realize the history of

48:25

Patterson, New Jersey. Now it just gets better. Well, this

48:27

isn't even Patterson. This was the king. No,

48:29

but I'm saying like in general, these

48:32

towns in New Jersey are just so historic

48:34

and people, it's just overlooked.

48:36

Can you get to Patterson on the X-15? Oh,

48:40

on X-15? No, that goes to Liberty State Park. That's

48:42

just an extension. 15X. 15X. It's

48:45

the turnpike and it's like a little hub.

48:47

Patterson, not a good neighborhood. So

48:49

much so that people who live in Patterson,

48:52

they tried to change their neighborhoods within

48:54

Patterson to West Patterson to

48:56

make like a different.

48:56

No, they changed it from West Patterson to Woodland

48:59

Park. Woodland Park, yeah, tried to get the

49:01

stick of Patterson off of themselves. I

49:04

didn't tell you what, Patterson's a great town.

49:07

Is it? Yeah, it's like the fabric capital

49:09

of the United States. Yeah,

49:11

Luca Stella, I think it's one of them. Is it Trenton? Abner

49:14

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49:14

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through this. Yeah, when they. No, it's

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like for polyesters and silk. Cool. So

50:01

we do this thing at Black Tom in 1916. The

50:04

Germany's do this thing. I'm gonna

50:06

interrupt one more time. Remember when we met

50:08

the tabletop king of Central Florida? That

50:10

was a highlight of this podcast.

50:12

Even though it was for NASCAR. The countertop.

50:15

Countertop king of Central Florida

50:18

at Daytona. Right. He had

50:20

a huge tailgate. Batman's

50:22

royalty. Yeah. Were they

50:24

the moonshine people? No, no, no.

50:27

Those are the Kentucky cops. Those are just good folks.

50:29

They were. That was. They're the best. Daytona.

50:31

We had a blast. It was fun. We

50:33

tried to do a couple of Twisted

50:35

History events there. But, Bibsy

50:37

and I, I think we even drank a little

50:38

too much. I'll be back at Daytona for the full

50:40

race. We were taking thirst trap shots. Yep.

50:44

I still got them. That was fun. So Black Tom

50:48

happens in 1916. My point is, it's

50:50

not the only thing that Germany did, and

50:53

it's not the only thing that Germany did in New Jersey.

50:55

There was also something called the Kingsland Munitions

50:57

Factory. Now the fact that Annie and

51:00

I don't know about this is embarrassing, because

51:02

this was at the Meadowlands.

51:03

I don't think anybody knows about this. The Meadowlands

51:05

is 15 minutes away. Do you know about Kingsland? Shut up, Jack. I

51:07

just don't. Kingsland, I'll hop on that train

51:10

sometimes. It's right by front for me. But do you

51:12

know what happened there? No, no idea. This is

51:13

why. I think this is amazing. The

51:15

Kingsland Munition Factory in the

51:17

Meadowlands in January, 1917. A

51:19

fire that burned for four hours, and

51:21

a steady roll of bursting

51:24

shrapnel caused 500,000 pieces

51:28

of 76 millimeter high explosive shells

51:30

to discharge.

51:32

So whereas Black Tom was

51:34

just one or two big boom,

51:36

boom, boom,

51:38

Kingsland was four hours

51:41

where a half a million 76

51:43

millimeter high explosive shells

51:46

went off. It was a display like no others. The entire plant was destroyed in a series of

51:49

small explosions

51:57

that was said to have been a spectacle, more

51:59

magnificent.

51:59

than the nearby 1916 explosion of Black

52:02

Tom.

52:04

From office buildings and tall apartments,

52:06

people in New York City watched with amazement.

52:09

Black Tom was more of a big boom and a smoldering fire,

52:11

but Kingsland was a fireworks display. I

52:13

bet

52:13

if we got Frank to take in here, I bet he knows about

52:15

it. I bet. Cause he lives right there, he lives,

52:18

let's don't start from there. Frank to take knows way too much about this shit.

52:20

The reason I mention this is because on nearby

52:23

Snake Hill, there was a hospital

52:25

for the insane,

52:26

a contagious diseases hospital, and

52:29

a tuberculosis sanitarium, right?

52:32

That's what they had there on Snake

52:34

Hill.

52:35

And all the people in this hospital

52:37

for the insane and this sanitarium

52:40

that were grouped on the north side had

52:43

a great view of the action.

52:45

So when the fire and the ensuing

52:47

explosion started,

52:49

the residents of Snake Hill began

52:51

to panic, fearing that the world

52:53

was coming to an end. And

52:56

it's not that bad

52:58

of a guess, right? So these people in

53:00

the puzzle factory or whatever, they see

53:03

that there is a world war going on across,

53:05

like they know about this. And they

53:07

see this going on over here, and they

53:09

think that everything's about to hit the fan. So

53:12

as the 900 plus inmates

53:14

of the asylum grew more panicked, the

53:16

superintendent, Dr. George

53:18

King and Dr. James Meehan, chairman

53:21

of the hospital, figured a way to calm

53:23

these people. Dr. Meehan hurried to

53:25

the hospital with supplies of ice cream,

53:27

fruits, and candies.

53:29

The inmates were assembled in the lecture hall,

53:32

and they were told that the European war had ended, and

53:34

the explosions were detonations of big

53:36

guns to celebrate the event.

53:38

I liked the fact that someone along the line, somebody at

53:40

the wherewithal in northern New Jersey,

53:43

to take 900 crazy people, for

53:45

lack of a better term, put them in a hall, give

53:47

them a fucking ice cream, and say this is victory

53:50

day. And they were like, oh, cool.

53:52

Because otherwise, they would have tore that place into a

53:54

fucking shred. And that's actually, I was mistaken for it. That's

53:56

what's under 15x. Snake Hill

53:58

is the one that's underneath it.

53:59

That's what they put the guy that was

54:02

on the train looked at it and he was

54:04

like one of the people that worked for Prudential

54:06

And he used that as the rock like the image

54:09

for Prudential and it's snake hill

54:11

It's not the rock everybody thinks it's the Rock of Gibraltar, but

54:13

it's not it's it's snake

54:15

Last thing I'll say about Kingsland

54:17

There was a woman there Tessie McNamara who

54:20

operated the company switchboard at the munitions

54:22

factory and she was credited with saving

54:25

1400 lives as the fires were spreading

54:27

and only a few people knew enough to evacuate Evacuate

54:31

because they spread from munitions to munitions

54:35

McNamara stayed at her switchboard.

54:37

She plugged in each of the buildings PAs

54:40

and shouted over them

54:41

This were these words

54:43

get out or go up. It's pretty whatever.

54:45

So she saved 1400 lives No

54:48

one was killed in the fire as a result of this woman's

54:50

announcements Flea worker fleeing

54:52

workers were able to cross the frozen Hackensack

54:54

River or run up Valley Brook

54:57

to safety

54:58

and some of those who crossed the Hackensack River Made

55:01

their way to the buildings on snake hill and

55:03

I'm assuming they got to celebrate with some free ice cream

55:06

and the clinically insane So yeah, so that

55:08

woman has like a bench or some shit named after

55:10

but that stuff happened 15 minutes away from our house

55:12

Yeah, all right wild. Yeah,

55:15

you guys are better. That's the dream. You gotta get

55:17

a bench named after you Alright, we're gonna

55:19

keep moving with this Justin

55:21

Elsie. Hey large I'm a huge fan of twisted history

55:23

been listening sincerely pandemic you have to

55:25

check out

55:27

Ughith, Obrina,

55:28

you're a baseball fan Jack Enough,

55:31

but not enough to know who get through. Oh,

55:34

I grew up with my dad taking me to the ballpark Yeah,

55:36

I'm a baseball fan Ughith, Obrina

55:40

His mother's kidnapping story. It's a wild

55:42

one It goes right along with kidnapping theme

55:45

the lead police officer in the case is

55:48

an absolute stud

55:50

I want to thank you Vibs, Sainan,

55:53

JC and John for all the laughs

55:56

a great podcast gone far too soon I hope

55:58

this makes it into the last

55:59

podcast. It did make it on Justin

56:02

because I'm going to talk about it. I never heard of

56:04

Ugeth Ubrina. Never heard of him. Me

56:06

neither. Yeah, that's a great name. I feel

56:08

like I would have remembered that name had I heard it. Unless,

56:11

you know him? No, no, no. Frank knows him.

56:14

Yeah. I did ask Frank to tag and he was like, oh

56:17

he made us seem so mediocre. I guess he pitched against

56:19

the Mets at some point. He was

56:21

a relief pitcher, pitcher who played 11 years in

56:24

major leagues. Two-time All-Star,

56:26

led the National League in saves with 41 in 1999,

56:29

helped the Florida Marlins win

56:32

the 2003 World Series. He's

56:34

the only player in major league history to

56:36

have double U as his

56:39

initials. Ooh, ooh, UU.

56:42

And it's actually three U's because

56:44

his full name is Ugeth

56:46

Ur-Tain

56:47

Urbina. Okay. His

56:50

initials are UU or UUU. Utrids

56:54

on a butrid. Yeah, it does remind you of Utrids

56:56

on a butrid.

56:58

Frank says a lot of people call them Ugi, Ugi

57:01

Urbina. His baseball career

57:03

was cut short after 2005 when he was arrested by Venezuelan

57:10

authorities for attempted murder. This

57:12

is the baseball player who was arrested. He

57:14

attacked five farm workers on his property

57:17

with a machete and attempted to pour gasoline on

57:19

them after accusing them of stealing a gun.

57:22

He was convicted of attempted murder

57:24

and sentenced to 14 years in prison,

57:27

but served just over seven years of his

57:29

sentence. So

57:30

this guy, I mean, he won a World Series

57:33

in 2003. Two-time All-Star, too.

57:34

Yeah, two-time

57:37

All-Star. And now saves leader. Yeah.

57:39

Like he's legit. Yeah, no, definitely legit.

57:42

And then after he won the World Series, I

57:45

think he then went maybe to the, yeah, so it

57:48

was the Tigers. It was probably his

57:50

last stop. Phillies was 2005. Yeah.

57:53

So he's an interesting guy.

57:55

He tried to kill a couple of farm workers with machete

57:57

and pour gasoline over them.

57:59

But what Justin was

57:59

pointing out in particular was in September 2004 while

58:03

he was playing for the Detroit Tigers. Oogie's 54

58:08

year old mother,

58:09

her name was Mora,

58:10

was kidnapped and held for six million dollars

58:12

in ransom in southwest Venezuela.

58:15

He had a house in Venezuela,

58:17

the mom was staying in the house, and

58:20

gunmen wearing police uniforms forced

58:22

their way into his South American home.

58:25

They stole $520 and

58:27

abducted his mother and a mechanic

58:29

who was working at the home at the time. Urbina's

58:32

family refused to pay the six million dollars in

58:34

ransom

58:36

and after five months in captivity, that is

58:38

mom in like a mountain camp

58:41

for five months. I think

58:42

she might have tried to commit suicide a couple times

58:44

while she was in captivity. So

58:46

after five months an anti-kidnapping

58:49

unit stormed the mountain camp as she was being

58:51

kept and rescued her in

58:53

a military style operation,

58:56

she was retrieved unhurt. Five

58:59

months is a long time forever.

59:01

So now you got this guy who tried to chop up some

59:03

farm workers himself. You have this guy

59:05

whose mom was kidnapped five months

59:08

and we're gonna talk about how they got her back. And

59:10

also in 1994, there are no victim

59:13

to crimes is what I'm trying to say here. In 1994, so

59:15

way before this,

59:17

Ugi's dad, Juan,

59:19

was murdered by bandits in a

59:21

botched robbery attempt in Caracas.

59:24

You know, this is pretty interesting

59:26

dude. Bandits. Bandits in Caracas?

59:31

What else do you call them? Robbers in Caracas? No, Bandits.

59:33

Maybe Banditos. Yeah.

59:36

I like that.

59:37

What do you think, like the way Frank Sinatra carried around dimes,

59:39

do you think she carried around anything with her? I

59:41

don't know. Maybe guns. Just a massive.

59:44

Yeah. Oh, by the way, his mom did.

59:46

His mom, I saw a picture of

59:49

her. I mean, it was distracting how

59:51

big her hands were. But the stud that

59:53

this guy Justin was referring to, like

59:55

the special forces guy

59:57

that got her out, was kind of

59:59

named Joelle Rangifo.

1:00:02

He led the raid that saved

1:00:04

UUU's mom, UQ's

1:00:07

mom, and you can look up the accounts

1:00:09

of it. It was out of a movie. Like

1:00:11

Rangifo had gotten there

1:00:14

and he shot one of the kidnappers

1:00:16

through the shoulder. Like they went

1:00:18

in on boats,

1:00:19

but then had to jump out of the boats to be undetected.

1:00:22

They had to wade through piranha-infested waters,

1:00:25

then climb a fucking mountain to this camp.

1:00:27

Then they go in there to get the mom back

1:00:30

They shoot when the kidnappers go through his shoulder

1:00:32

and into like a gas tank behind him causing

1:00:35

an explosion that blew up part of the house.

1:00:37

It was one of those things like It's like a Michael Mann movie. Yeah,

1:00:39

it's as cool as hell. So that's the that's

1:00:42

the studly part. So much so

1:00:44

that Rangifo became known as La

1:00:47

Leyenda or the legend. And

1:00:49

baseball hired this guy, Rangifo, on a

1:00:51

part-time basis after the rescue as

1:00:54

a resident security agent based in Venezuela.

1:00:57

Now each major league team has two RSAs,

1:01:00

resident security agents, and Rangifo

1:01:03

eventually became a full-time major league employee

1:01:05

and member of the apartment investigations established

1:01:08

in 2008 and was one of the most well-respected

1:01:10

and well-connected baseball officials. He went

1:01:12

on to play an integral role in

1:01:14

the rescue of Nationals catcher Wilson

1:01:17

Ramos, who was kidnapped outside of his

1:01:19

home in Valencia. The first documented

1:01:21

kidnapping of an MLB player in Venezuela,

1:01:24

Ramos was rescued within 48 hours.

1:01:27

And Rangifo was also involved in the safe

1:01:29

return of Rangers catcher Jorvik

1:01:32

Torrialba's son after the boy and

1:01:34

two other family members were kidnapped in 2009

1:01:37

in Guarinas just east of

1:01:39

Caracas. So Justin's right to

1:01:41

point this guy out as a stud. And I'm

1:01:43

always quick to point out to potential

1:01:45

travelers that three quarters

1:01:47

of the world's kidnappings, right?

1:01:49

I told you this when I told you the Canelo

1:01:52

Alvarez story. Three quarters of

1:01:54

the world's documented kidnappings

1:01:56

take place in Latin America, the bulk in

1:01:58

Colombia, Mexico, and Argentina.

1:01:59

in Brazil. So if you get a very

1:02:02

good deal on an Airbnb

1:02:04

there,

1:02:05

that's why. Yeah, be ugly

1:02:07

and poor because otherwise you're fucked. Yeah,

1:02:10

I'm just wondering. I like that. I like that thing.

1:02:13

Kelsey Smith, large,

1:02:15

huge fan. My husband got me started watching Twisted History

1:02:17

a couple years ago and I think I've listened every episode.

1:02:20

We have two cats at our house because of mice.

1:02:22

I don't love cats, but I don't hate

1:02:25

them. Kelsey, I hate them. I absolutely

1:02:27

hate mice though, she says, and I'm with

1:02:29

you on that too. I'm afraid of rodents. My

1:02:31

husband did not like cats, but now they

1:02:34

are his children. Your husband's a

1:02:35

weirdo. Love the show. Love

1:02:37

St. Anne. Love Vibs. Love

1:02:39

Jack. Love John. We are from Vibs'

1:02:42

dad's hometown, so love the

1:02:44

Indiana shout outs. Oh, Vibs'y. What's the hometown?

1:02:47

Rock. New Castle. Is it New Castle?

1:02:49

New Castle, Mars Hill. Okay.

1:02:51

Shout out to Indiana. Shout out to

1:02:53

Mars Hill, y'all. Who you

1:02:56

roll to think? Shout out to the old Vibs'y.

1:03:00

Vibs'y. Is it tough around

1:03:02

that neighborhood? I mean,

1:03:04

some places in Indiana. Do you want to bandana for what?

1:03:07

Tough. Gary Indiana is tough. Gary Indiana?

1:03:09

Yeah, it's fucking tough there, dude. Where I'm

1:03:11

from, we see a dead body every day. No, I'm

1:03:14

from the... I think it was voted like

1:03:17

the county I'm from, like the 10th

1:03:19

safest place to live in the nation.

1:03:22

Really? Yeah, and then some kid

1:03:24

murdered an old man and now it's not safe. You dropped

1:03:26

down. That was the first homicide you've had since like 19 or 18.

1:03:28

Some parts of Indiana

1:03:30

you gotta walk with your head

1:03:33

up, right? I'd say

1:03:34

the east side of Indiana, like the west

1:03:37

side of Indiana where my dad's from, pretty

1:03:41

rough. I'm from the cushiest,

1:03:43

softest suburbs ever. Like the suburbs

1:03:45

of Indiana. I'm from a town called Hohokus. Is it worse

1:03:47

than that? The only town in the United States with two

1:03:50

hyphens, Hohokus. All

1:03:52

right, and then Kelsey gave me a fact I

1:03:54

never touched on in the Twisted History of Cats. We

1:03:56

did a whole Twisted History of Cats. One of the

1:03:59

clips from it...

1:03:59

ripped. One of the cats clips

1:04:02

like ripped for some reason. That was one of the early ones

1:04:04

I was on I think. Yeah. We did that

1:04:06

one. You and I did that one together. All right first

1:04:08

thing I want you to remember about cats these

1:04:11

evil little animals are serial

1:04:13

killers. They steal babies breath while they sleep. That's

1:04:15

right. They steal if you have milk on your breath cats

1:04:17

will steal your baby's breath and suffocate them. That's

1:04:19

not true. Lap up their soul. Yeah. Unlike

1:04:22

other predators cats only eat

1:04:24

about 30 percent of the animals that

1:04:26

they kill. The other two thirds they just

1:04:28

play around with or they leave there to rot. That's

1:04:31

not normal behavior for an animal. No. And

1:04:33

if you're team bird which I am I'm

1:04:35

an avid birder. You can't

1:04:37

also be team cat because Gordon and George

1:04:39

Fenwick the guy

1:04:41

president of the American bird Conservancy

1:04:44

cat predation is one of the reasons why

1:04:46

one in three American bird species

1:04:49

species are in decline. Cats

1:04:51

are killing birds at an alarming rate. Cats

1:04:53

have contributed to the extinction of 63 species

1:04:57

of birds mammals and reptiles in the wild

1:05:00

and continue to adversely impact

1:05:02

a wide variety of other species. The

1:05:04

ecological dangers are so critical

1:05:07

that the international union for conservation

1:05:10

of nature the IUC and

1:05:12

you may know them as list domestic

1:05:15

cats as one of the world's worst

1:05:18

non-native invasive species

1:05:20

alongside feral hogs

1:05:23

gypsy moths

1:05:25

and the Burmese python.

1:05:26

And now the spotted lantern beetle

1:05:28

right? Isn't that like perhaps yeah

1:05:30

yeah I see we got it nowhere near cats

1:05:32

though. Cats are evil. Back

1:05:35

to this DM. Could you kill

1:05:36

a cat on the spot? No absolutely

1:05:38

not. I could not. I'm team dog but I

1:05:40

think I'm team cat over team bird. Over

1:05:43

team bird. Team dog overall though. Team

1:05:46

dog over everything. Yeah. I'm team cat

1:05:48

over team bird. Birds suck. Yeah I'm not a bird.

1:05:51

Cats suck.

1:05:52

Cats are funny. Cats are murderous. They're funny.

1:05:54

Yeah but birds freak me out sometimes. Birds

1:05:56

can't go anywhere with my daughter with a bird around.

1:06:01

It's bad. This is

1:06:03

what Kelsey tells me though. Cats also

1:06:05

have something called taxoplasmosis, which

1:06:07

is a parasite that lives in cat shit. According

1:06:10

to Kelsey...

1:06:10

That kills babies too.

1:06:12

Quote, when cats, originally wild cats,

1:06:14

drop their feces, rats will end up crawling

1:06:16

around and ingesting the parasite. The

1:06:18

parasite then somehow works on their brain

1:06:21

and makes rats not fear cats anymore,

1:06:24

making it easier for the cats to catch

1:06:26

the rats. So what Kelsey is telling

1:06:28

me...

1:06:28

Cats are playing chess, Mike. Is that cats

1:06:30

have magic shit that

1:06:33

causes their prey

1:06:35

to fall in love with them. You're dying for magic

1:06:38

to be real. Yeah. And I saw the

1:06:40

article she cited, and it's basically true,

1:06:42

although taxoplasmosis is a much wider

1:06:44

disease to consider outside of rodents.

1:06:47

It's no bueno. But her point is salient. Cats

1:06:49

are so fucking evil

1:06:52

that their shit lures

1:06:54

victims into their murderous grasp.

1:06:57

Fuck cats. I won't get to say it again, so I'm going to say it

1:06:59

one more time. Fuck cats. That was from Kelsey.

1:07:02

But that being said, you would never hurt a cat. I

1:07:04

would never hurt a cat. I would never hurt an animal. I

1:07:07

just got to put it out there. You sound so angry. I

1:07:09

would never hurt an animal unless it confronted my family.

1:07:12

Yes, exactly. I love that the

1:07:14

dads or moms that just charge a bobcat

1:07:17

because it's going after the four-year-old. It's like when you did the chipmunk. Those

1:07:19

people are badass.

1:07:19

We had a chipmunk come in the house, and he went after it with a machete.

1:07:22

He destroyed the sink. He destroyed the

1:07:24

floor. He maimed the chipmunk. Did you get it? I

1:07:26

opened the door and it ran out. I didn't

1:07:28

get it. You didn't get it. That was

1:07:32

from Kelsey. I think we have a fair amount of female readers. Somebody

1:07:34

had sent in to me that a young

1:07:36

lady had sent in that she scoffed

1:07:38

when I said I didn't have a lot of female listeners.

1:07:42

She said that we do have a lot of female listeners. I don't

1:07:44

know if that's true. Majority DMs I get are

1:07:46

from males.

1:07:47

DMs? Your DMs are male. Your

1:07:50

listeners are female. The pie chart of

1:07:52

the podcast. There are a lot more females than you'd think. Especially for

1:07:54

a bar stool brand.

1:07:59

fair amount of female listeners. You know why? Or

1:08:02

had. But most of the EMs

1:08:04

are for men. You think that the ladies don't

1:08:06

reach out as much because of the whole, like

1:08:09

I didn't mention that Kelsey, the

1:08:11

cat woman, has him, but she obviously does.

1:08:14

Her gigantic milkers, right? You think people

1:08:16

don't like to be told that they have,

1:08:19

you know? It's everyone. I think women, anybody

1:08:21

who listens to this platform, finds

1:08:24

it hysterical because they get the

1:08:26

joke.

1:08:27

Smart people generally get the joke and

1:08:29

smart people generally listen

1:08:31

to his history. Yeah, like the one woman that said, stop talking

1:08:33

about Joe DiMaggio's dick, right?

1:08:35

Like I didn't know. Was that in jest? Was that

1:08:37

tongue in cheek? I don't know. Oh, it's a joke. You

1:08:39

didn't even get the joke. Here's an example of the exact opposite. This

1:08:41

is from John B. Jack got my joke. John

1:08:44

B.

1:08:45

Man, what the hell happened? I'm a long

1:08:48

time listener, listening to every episode.

1:08:50

I won't pretend to be qualified to lead Barstool, but

1:08:53

I'd like to give Barstool a piece of my mind. He's mad

1:08:55

that this thing is going away. Anyway, thank

1:08:57

you. It's been a pleasure. To

1:08:59

all the boys too, most importantly, Saint.

1:09:01

And

1:09:02

he actually calls Queen Anne.

1:09:04

It's a little bit much. I like that. It's a little

1:09:06

much. Is the best sport. I can't buy you a drink,

1:09:09

but here's a picture of my girlfriend's great tits for

1:09:11

you and the boys.

1:09:11

I love that one. I thought that DiM was awesome.

1:09:14

Hell yeah, no, I'm looking at her. I got her on my phone.

1:09:16

Hell yeah. Right there. Let's go.

1:09:19

A stunningly beautiful young woman. Yeah, thank you. Stunningly beautiful

1:09:21

young woman in a red, white, and blue

1:09:23

bikini in front of a, I mean. I'm

1:09:26

ready for Fourth of July. Yeehaw!

1:09:29

Yes, yes, where? Yes!

1:09:32

Yes! Yes! Yes! Yeah.

1:09:35

Boom, boom, boom, boom. The blitz! Yeah, right?

1:09:37

Fucking, my pants is going off like Snake Hill right

1:09:39

now. Anyway, that's, so

1:09:43

don't send me any more cow vaginas.

1:09:45

Do send the boys every now and again.

1:09:48

Obviously, I showed it to Annie right away too. And

1:09:50

this girl's got a great rack. Can't stop looking at me. Yeah,

1:09:53

so we're gonna close up. We're gonna close up for the last

1:09:55

time. Bud McCormick had sent me something. You shit me?

1:09:58

Who's the stupid son of a bitch cutting out?

1:09:59

I like to use that stuff. Oh,

1:10:03

you want supplies? You'll have to go down to Bud McCormick's

1:10:05

general shop. He'll get everything you

1:10:07

need. Bud McCormick's

1:10:10

grain and feed. But you know what

1:10:12

Bud called this? Which means that Bud McCormick

1:10:14

is a fucking genius. He called this

1:10:16

that he's having a twisted hysterectomy.

1:10:20

Aww. I like that. Yeah. Three

1:10:23

people ease this pain. Yeah, certainly will. What

1:10:25

wordplay. Yeah. So we're

1:10:27

gonna wrap up.

1:10:28

This is it. I

1:10:30

already caught my tongue in cheek about the guy's package.

1:10:32

Ah. Yeah, you got it. Oh, nice one, Andy.

1:10:35

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

1:10:37

Everyone's good, right? Close it up now? Yeah.

1:10:40

We're good to close up? I'd

1:10:42

like to talk about a little Indiana town.

1:10:44

That is. No, you're

1:10:46

good. Indiana got a lot of love in this pocket. A little

1:10:48

too much, I'd say. But it was,

1:10:51

no, I think it was- I mean, you're far, you do

1:10:53

love your home state. I do. You're a serial

1:10:55

killer. I always-

1:10:56

You talked about Indiana the way I speak about serial killers. I

1:10:59

always feel like I'm throwing too much Indiana information out there, but I

1:11:01

think people are always like, no, it's a good amount.

1:11:03

You can tell the kid enjoys what he's talking about.

1:11:06

You made it personal to Vibsy, and I love

1:11:08

that. I spent four best four

1:11:10

years of my life, of the best four years of my

1:11:12

life, not the best. In Indiana,

1:11:15

I love my time in college and stuff. It's great. Yip

1:11:17

yow, yay! It's

1:11:20

an art. I once stole a quote and I tweaked it to fit our

1:11:22

cause. People clung to it as a mantra

1:11:24

for this podcast. I wanna put it on a shirt. One

1:11:26

of the guys had used it when he

1:11:29

had complained about the lack of

1:11:32

Holocaust education at his university.

1:11:35

Like he used this like word for word. Yes, he did.

1:11:37

So I'm gonna say it one last

1:11:38

time. History is fucking ugly and it's twisted,

1:11:40

but it's not there for us to like or dislike.

1:11:43

It's there for us to learn from. And what

1:11:45

we learn from history, if that offends

1:11:47

us,

1:11:48

well, then that's all the better because maybe we will

1:11:50

be less likely to repeat it.

1:11:53

Twisted history is not mine or Vibs or Annys

1:11:55

or Johns to change or

1:11:57

destroy. It's for us to tell.

1:12:00

And on our last live episode, I'll add this

1:12:02

and I'll speak for everyone collectively.

1:12:05

I think I can speak collectively for this group.

1:12:08

We've always loved the idea of twisted

1:12:10

history even before this podcast had started.

1:12:13

We've always loved the idea of stuff that was on

1:12:15

the fringe, right? Being irreverent about

1:12:17

it. So what did we do? We learned twisted

1:12:20

history. And then what did we do? We discussed

1:12:22

twisted history and even taught twisted

1:12:24

history to the people listening and watching.

1:12:27

And now, regrettably, this podcast

1:12:29

is a piece of twisted history. Thank you

1:12:31

for listening.