Perry and David discuss audiobooks, cover a swag of awards and recent news, and then go on to talk about what they've read (or listened to) recently. And Perry talks about a great TV series he recommends.

• Introduction (01:40)
• Listening to audiobooks (11:57)
• General News (13:42)
  • Hugo Ballot 2023 (06:20)
  • World Fantasy Awards 2023 (01:32)
  • Cordwainer Smith Rediscovery Award 2023 (00:37)
  • Miles Franklin Award Winner 2023 (00:58)
  • The Booker Prize long list 2023 (02:46)
  • Death of Milan Kundera (01:20)
• What we've been reading (55:00)
  • The Long and Faraway Gone by Lou Berney (07:18)
  • Utterly Dark and the Heart of the Wild by Philip Reeve (07:33)
  • An Artist of the Floating World by Kazuo Ishiguro (07:04)
  • Conjure Wife by Fritz Leiber (07:28)
  • Here’s Luck by Lennie Lower (04:24)
  • The Russia House by John Le Carre (11:05)
  • The Bear (08:33)
• Windup (01:34)

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