One creates large scale art installations in fresco style, the other runs a social enterprise empowering woman by transforming shavings of graffiti into unique jewelry. World renown muralist, Dr. Hubert Massey and Founder and CEO of Rebel Nell, Amy Peterson join us in studio today. In a truly inspiring and fun conversation, we circle around the topics of art, community engagement, and empowerment. We also tell stories of our worst luck, and ‘attempting’ to be sneaky.