International minister and bestselling author John Bevere wants you to live in fear of God. But a life lived in fear of God is probably a lot different than what you’d imagine. In his own life and ministry, John has seen that fear of God transform him personally, change his family, and allowed him to take the gospel to millions upon millions of people. On today’s episode of Unapologetic, John and Julianne unpack exactly what it looks like to live in fear—or as John calls it, in awe—of the Lord.

During their inspiring conversation, John shares why this message is so close to his heart—outlining how understanding the difference between loving and fearing God truly motivates his ministry. Julianne then asks John to talk about what living in awe of God looks like practically in our everyday lives, how embracing that healthy fear of God can counterintuitively give us peace and encouragement, and why John thinks so many Christians today are missing this vital aspect of a relationship with God. Towards the end of the episode, John opens up about how he and his wife, Lisa, started Messenger International and why he’s so passionate about discipling the world. John is truly a hero of the faith, and you’re not going to want to miss this episode!

John’s newest book—The Awe of God—is available everywhere now! Connect with him through his website and learn more about Messenger International at messengerinternational.org.