Episode Transcript
Transcripts are displayed as originally observed. Some content, including advertisements may have changed.
Use Ctrl + F to search
0:00
breakups and divorce
0:00
can be extremely painful, lonely
0:04
and confusing. But I believe
0:04
they can also be the key that
0:08
opens the door to who we really
0:08
are. I'm Lindsey Ellison,
0:12
author, coach, speaker, and
0:12
single mom of two awesome young
0:17
man. Welcome to a podcast about
0:17
finding joy and inner peace.
0:21
after a breakup, you may not be
0:21
able to see what's on the other
0:24
side yet, but I promise if you
0:24
do the healing work, your life
0:28
will transform in ways you never
0:28
thought possible. Welcome to
0:32
unbreakable you. I am back. I am back. I am so
0:35
happy to be here with you today
0:42
and kick off a new season of
0:42
unbreakable you. And you know
0:47
what, it's almost been a year
0:47
since I did my last podcast,
0:52
which I actually cannot believe.
0:52
And you guys are still
0:56
listening. So thank you so much,
0:56
I still get my little weekly
0:59
reports of who's listening and
0:59
not who's listening. But how
1:02
many episodes are downloaded,
1:02
and I'm still getting hurt. And
1:05
so I really appreciate you guys
1:05
being really, really great loyal
1:09
listeners and, and a great
1:09
audience. So thank you, I have
1:13
so much to share with you. And I
1:13
wanted to just have this episode
1:18
give you an update as to what's
1:18
been going on in my life, and
1:22
where I am professionally and
1:22
all the new work that I have
1:26
just recently launched. So let's
1:26
go back in time, almost a year
1:31
ago, I believe the last episode
1:31
I had, I talked about my most
1:36
personal episode ever. So when I
1:36
recorded that episode, I had
1:42
just returned from being away
1:42
for six weeks at the meadows,
1:46
which was a fantastic, awesome
1:46
place that specializes in
1:50
childhood trauma. And when I got
1:50
home, I had really made an
1:56
effort to focus on my marriage,
1:56
and to, you know, hopefully,
2:03
repair things and really start
2:03
fresh. Well, it didn't turn out
2:08
to be that way. Things have
2:08
really changed and progressed
2:13
over the past Gosh, how many
2:13
months and I'm really, you know,
2:17
trying to give you enough
2:17
information to tell the story
2:20
without kind of diving too much
2:20
into my personal life and, and
2:24
disrespecting any type of
2:24
privacy with my ex husband. So
2:29
yeah, I just gave it away, we we
2:29
actually broke up and we are now
2:34
divorced. That happened very
2:34
quickly, didn't it? So I want to
2:38
just talk a little bit if I
2:38
could about the process of what
2:44
happened when I got back because
2:44
again, everything that I share
2:47
with you, the goal is for you to
2:47
take something away from it for
2:51
your own personal life. So what
2:51
happened was is I got home and
2:55
if you all remember when I
2:55
talked about recognizing
2:59
codependency and how
2:59
codependency is very much seen
3:03
as an addiction and in the
3:03
clinical world. I was basically
3:07
working on what we call
3:07
emotional sobriety. So if you
3:12
think of an alcoholic who is
3:12
addicted to alcohol, their drug
3:17
of choice is alcohol or the
3:17
bottle. And so when an alcoholic
3:22
is coming into sobriety they
3:22
avoid alcohol and being around
3:27
alcohol and alcohol is something
3:27
that is black and white. That's
3:31
something that you should
3:31
abstain from should you abuse
3:35
it? Well with codependency it's
3:35
a bit different. So the way we
3:39
look at codependency is like
3:39
alcoholic has a drinking
3:42
problem. A codependent has a
3:42
thinking problem. And you're
3:46
gonna hear me talk a lot about
3:46
this in future episodes about
3:49
distorted thinking. And when we
3:49
have childhood trauma, what we
3:53
end up doing well, more kids as
3:53
we go into this fantasy mode,
3:58
where I mean fantasies a little
3:58
strong, but it's where we're not
4:03
really in tune with reality
4:03
because as children, we were not
4:06
in control of our reality. As
4:06
children, we're you know, under
4:10
the decisions and controls of
4:10
our parents. And when bad things
4:14
happen, we really can't do
4:14
anything about it, we have to
4:16
rely on our parents. And so when
4:16
our parents aren't doing
4:19
anything about it, and they're
4:19
not nurturing us in a certain
4:21
way, as children, we develop
4:21
coping mechanisms to step out of
4:25
reality and go into distorted
4:25
thinking. So that's the kind of
4:29
stuff that helps us so as
4:29
distorted thought as a kid is
4:31
like, everything's fine. We go
4:31
into denial, or we become you
4:36
know, really creative or we you
4:36
know, we're good at, you know,
4:40
making up stories and fantasy
4:40
play and drawing and all kinds
4:45
of little things that we do as
4:45
kids well what happens is if
4:48
that has not been resolved, as
4:48
adults, we can still use the
4:52
same kind of coping mechanisms
4:52
such as distorted thinking in
4:56
order for us to handle reality
4:56
the difficult way ality that we
5:00
have. So going back to where I
5:00
was, when I came back from the
5:05
meadows, I was really working on
5:05
clarity and my reality, and
5:12
making sure my thinking was not
5:12
distorted, and therefore what we
5:17
call emotional sobriety. But
5:17
having gone now living in the
5:21
home with my husband, since I
5:21
had returned, it was very, very
5:25
difficult. And it was so much
5:25
though that our past as a couple
5:31
hadn't really fully resolved
5:31
itself out of distortion. So I
5:36
then it felt as though the way I
5:36
was I could best explain it is
5:39
that it was coming home, and I
5:39
was being triggered constantly,
5:43
like an alcoholic would. So he
5:43
and I decided that it would be
5:48
best for everyone's kind of
5:48
mental health and our own
5:52
emotional individual emotional
5:52
sobriety that it would be best
5:55
to separate. And so we did, and
5:55
it was a very, very difficult
5:58
thing. It actually was just one of the
5:59
hardest things I've ever done.
6:03
You know, my first divorce was
6:03
with, as you all know, my story
6:08
of with more of a narcissist,
6:08
and he was the father of my
6:10
children. And I was not in love
6:10
with him. And it was just a more
6:15
of a, our divorce was more of me
6:15
escaping out of a really bad
6:18
toxic situation where in this
6:18
situation, I was working so much
6:23
on healing, my codependency and
6:23
some really bad patterns of
6:28
thinking and behaving that it
6:28
was very hard to do that around
6:33
him. So we separated and it was
6:33
kind of the the most grown up
6:38
thing we had to do. And it was
6:38
very difficult because we still
6:43
very much loved and cared for
6:43
each other. So breaking up with
6:49
someone who you love, again, is
6:49
one of the hardest things I've
6:53
had to do. Generally, when I've
6:53
broken up with someone, I'm done
6:56
with them, and I'm over them and
6:56
get the hell out. And but this
6:59
was very different. So he ended
6:59
up moving away. And we kept a
7:03
very good relationship. And to
7:03
this day, we were very amicable.
7:08
But during that time when he
7:08
left, I went through what I
7:13
think was significant withdrawal
7:13
from him. And again, you've
7:17
talked about your you have all
7:17
heard me talk about one of my
7:21
addictions is that love
7:21
addiction. And I'm going to talk
7:23
more about what love addiction
7:23
is and further episodes. But
7:26
love addiction was something
7:26
that I really saw that it was a
7:30
problem. And I'm not going to go
7:30
into too many details as to why
7:33
because that starts to get,
7:33
again, crossing the lines of
7:37
some private information. What I
7:37
will talk about is how I dealt
7:40
with it. And here I am a coach
7:40
and working through some of
7:45
these deeper issues that I
7:45
hadn't really not known about
7:48
myself, I really hadn't
7:48
experienced withdrawal from love
7:55
in many, many, many years,
7:55
probably not since college, and
7:58
I forgot how agonizingly painful
7:58
it is. And we could be love
8:02
addicted to someone, even if it
8:02
is a narcissist or someone who's
8:06
who isn't good for us, etc. So
8:06
there's all various kinds of how
8:09
we react to our love addiction.
8:09
But for me, I struggled with
8:15
really not knowing who I was or
8:15
what my identity was without
8:19
being married. And I had to kind
8:19
of go back and figure out who I
8:24
really was. And part of love
8:24
addiction is where we start to
8:29
make someone else, our higher
8:29
power. And we lose contact with
8:34
our own higher power, meaning
8:34
our greatest self, our highest
8:39
sense of self, whether it's our
8:39
connection with God, our
8:42
spiritual values, etc. And I had
8:42
been trained, I believe we're
8:48
conditioned to do that just in
8:48
my childhood growing up. My
8:52
father was my higher power, I
8:52
was not allowed to have my own.
8:56
And I was not allowed to have my
8:56
own sense of self. So the
9:00
departure of my husband, who was
9:00
my higher power, I felt angry
9:05
and alone. And so many times I
9:05
wanted to call my husband and
9:10
tell him to come back home. But
9:10
I realized that that was not
9:13
good. So I really had to dealt
9:13
and really, really deal with
9:17
some of these kind of sober
9:17
issues and the pain around it.
9:22
And doing so, I'd say almost
9:22
this time last year and going
9:26
into the new year of 2021. I was
9:26
still reeling and just figuring
9:32
out who am I and what is my new
9:32
voice and what am I going to be
9:36
talking about, and what is my
9:36
career look like? And it wasn't
9:41
fun. I'll tell you it was really
9:41
really painful. And I remember
9:45
spending day after day after day
9:45
being just a gripping pain, as I
9:52
called it. mind bending, just
9:52
boiled over into the couch
9:57
crying kind of pain of just loss
9:57
and death of marriage and a
10:03
relationship and someone who I
10:03
truly loved. And I never thought
10:06
I would get out of that pain.
10:06
And so I looked for all kinds of
10:13
guidance. I did some meetings
10:13
with love addiction anonymous,
10:21
which were helpful for me in the
10:21
beginning just to be around
10:24
other people to talk about it,
10:24
because again, we're still an
10:27
early part of COVID. And things
10:27
just hadn't opened up yet. So I
10:31
was really dealt with dealing
10:31
with it on my own. And it was,
10:37
like I said, very, very painful.
10:37
And I really had no other
10:41
choice, but to start to pray
10:41
about it, because nothing was
10:45
taking this pain away. I just
10:45
felt so lost. And so I wouldn't
10:51
even say lonely. I just felt
10:51
like I was heartbroken. I think
10:54
that's the best word. And
10:54
heartbreak, I forgot how
10:58
horrifically painful it is. I
10:58
mean, it really does feel like
11:03
your heart is breaking in your
11:03
chest. So I prayed. And I
11:07
prayed, and I prayed. And I
11:07
asked God to take this pain away
11:12
from me. And to help me see this
11:12
differently. And I started to
11:17
get into this rhythm of getting
11:17
up in the morning, I did not
11:21
have cable, I cancelled cable.
11:21
So I really don't have any TV to
11:24
watch. And I got up in the
11:24
morning. And I started to create
11:27
a ritual where I sat on my live
11:27
this awesome little reclining
11:32
chair, that looks out to my
11:32
backyard. And this is winter now
11:36
and I just watched the snow
11:36
fall. And I would just stare
11:41
outside and try to center myself
11:41
and find whatever the hell
11:48
higher power existed in me. And
11:48
I started to then look for more
11:54
spiritual guidance to connect
11:54
with some kind of higher power
12:00
around breakups. So I was
12:00
looking for that, and looking
12:03
for books on that, and I didn't
12:03
really find anything. So one of
12:07
my favorite books, is
12:07
Conversations with God, I don't
12:11
know if you've read it. It's a
12:11
very old book. But it that's
12:14
kind of been the most tangible
12:14
book that I really, really
12:17
enjoyed, to help me through
12:17
things just life in general
12:21
about life. But I was really
12:21
looking more for things around
12:25
love and heartbreak. And to help
12:25
me get through this pain. So
12:30
what I ended up doing was
12:30
praying and asking for some kind
12:36
of guidance. And then I would
12:36
sit quietly for around 10
12:40
minutes, and not really think of
12:40
anything and just really try to
12:43
clear my mind and clear my ego
12:43
and allow this higher power for
12:49
me to hear it. And that is
12:49
really where 2021 started. And
12:55
it has changed my life forever.
12:55
So this season is going to be
12:59
talking a lot about that. And
12:59
about all the things that I've
13:05
learned in the process between
13:05
ego and our higher power. I also
13:11
dusted off a book through a
13:11
meditation one morning, I dusted
13:15
off an old book called the
13:15
course, A Course in Miracles. It
13:19
was written in the 70s. I don't
13:19
know if you've heard of it. But
13:22
I bought it maybe four or five
13:22
years ago. And it was very
13:25
biblical, and lots of God
13:25
references. And I just had a
13:32
huge distaste for anything like
13:32
that I was I've never been a
13:35
really religious person. Not a
13:35
bible thumper by any means, I've
13:40
only really been more spiritual.
13:40
So I didn't know what to do with
13:43
it. And I just sat on my shelf
13:43
and collected dust. But oddly,
13:48
during one of those quiet
13:48
mornings, I just got this
13:51
message to say go find that
13:51
book. And that is when things
13:55
just really started to open up
13:55
for me. And it really, it
13:58
actually made sense. All of
13:58
everything in that book made so
14:01
much sense. And I just kept
14:01
highlighting and really diving
14:07
in to some of the deeper work.
14:07
There are YouTube videos on
14:11
this. It's there's lots and lots
14:11
of writers out there who
14:14
interpret it. Because it does
14:14
need a lot of interpretation,
14:18
because it's a very difficult
14:18
text to read. But again, I felt
14:22
as though there really wasn't
14:22
anything like that, around the
14:26
pain of breakups or the pain of
14:26
heartbreak. And so that's really
14:31
what I asked God to send me to
14:31
give me some information on
14:36
that. And what came out of it
14:36
was I would meditate and then I
14:41
would just write, I would just
14:41
allow myself to write and allow
14:45
God or higher power to speak to
14:45
me and through me. And what came
14:50
out was unbelievable and very
14:50
remarkable that I just to this
14:55
day i i go back and read this
14:55
stuff and I can't believe I
14:58
wrote it and I I really don't
14:58
think I wrote it Lindsay and ego
15:02
did not write it. Lindsay and
15:02
Lindsay's higher power, wrote
15:06
it. And I ended up writing
15:06
passage after passage after
15:10
passage. And then I would go
15:10
back and read them. And I found
15:13
them to be incredibly comforting
15:13
and peaceful. And not too long
15:18
after starting this process, the
15:18
pain just started to go away.
15:23
And I started to feel more
15:23
connected to God. And I gotta
15:28
tell you even saying this out
15:28
loud, I have no problem writing
15:31
it. But even saying it out loud.
15:31
I'm so afraid of having any
15:36
listener be offended by that
15:36
word, because I think God and
15:40
religion and at least in the
15:40
United States, so there's the
15:44
religious, right, there's all
15:44
the stuff going on around
15:47
religion that has caused I think
15:47
more fights and anxiety and
15:52
grief and wars, over religion.
15:52
So I'm very sensitive to saying
15:57
that word. So a lot of people
15:57
say, universe.
16:02
And for me, it doesn't resonate,
16:02
because I think universe is
16:06
outside my body, where God is
16:06
within me, and I believe God is
16:10
in God is within all of us. And
16:10
we can tap into that higher
16:16
power at any time. But my God,
16:16
the only way we can do that is
16:21
to allow ego to rest and be
16:21
quiet. And when I did that, this
16:26
amazing piece of writing started
16:26
to emerge. And it took me about
16:31
three or four months to really
16:31
start to get through all this.
16:34
And once I did, and I gotta tell
16:34
you, guys, 90% of the stuff that
16:38
I wrote was on my phone, I had a
16:38
notes, you know, the Notes app
16:41
and an iPhone, I was just
16:41
writing that to the point where
16:44
I was like, almost closing my
16:44
eyes and just typing really
16:47
quickly with my thumbs of what I
16:47
heard. And remarkably, by
16:53
spring, I don't even know how to
16:53
explain it, I just felt joy. And
16:58
I felt alive. And I felt
16:58
awakened. And this summer has
17:03
been probably one of the best
17:03
summers I've ever had ever, just
17:08
with all the friends that I've
17:08
picked up along the way, this
17:11
summer, some old friendships
17:11
that I had severed, I renewed,
17:16
my ego, and all of the shame and
17:16
all the stuff that I'd been
17:20
working on, I think finally
17:20
started to dissipate. And there
17:25
was just me authentic Lindsey,
17:25
and it was showing up, and all
17:30
of these domains of my life. And
17:30
while this was happening, two
17:34
things were going on one, I
17:34
decided to create a new online
17:38
course called breakup
17:38
breakthrough, to help you all
17:43
get through a breakup or
17:43
divorce. And taking everything
17:47
that I learned at The Meadows
17:47
and boiling it down to more
17:51
understandable concepts, as well
17:51
as taking the spiritual aspect
17:55
of what was going on with me and
17:55
making it a hybrid of learning
18:01
about trauma, learning about
18:01
codependency and narcissism as
18:04
well as the addictions we have
18:04
and love addiction and love
18:07
avoidance, and taking those
18:07
clinical aspects. And then I
18:11
merge them with the spiritual
18:11
side. And it is designed to help
18:15
not in just your personal, you
18:15
know, romantic life. But it's
18:20
focused on the five core domains
18:20
of your life, which is
18:24
relationship with self,
18:24
friendships, your relationship
18:29
with money and your professional
18:29
life, your family. And then the
18:33
fifth one is romantic
18:33
relationships. So I developed
18:36
that course. And that took me
18:36
several months to do, which is
18:40
why I've been so busy. And you
18:40
haven't heard from me. And that
18:44
course launched earlier this
18:44
year, and those who have gone
18:47
through it, it has it has been
18:47
amazing. It's a six week course.
18:51
I'll talk about that in a little
18:51
bit. But the six week course,
18:54
that I, it's my best work I've
18:54
ever done. So if you're
18:58
interested in learning more
18:58
about it, you can get onto my
19:01
website, shoot me a note, I also
19:01
have a new webinar that I
19:05
produced, it's on my website,
19:05
it's under other good stuff.
19:09
It's a webinar that is about the
19:09
five things that you must do in
19:14
order to get over a breakup that
19:14
is free. So that's on my
19:17
website. And then what I ended
19:17
up doing was I took all of my
19:22
writings that I was talking to
19:22
you about and I decided they
19:26
helped me so much that I decided
19:26
to just start to create a book
19:30
about it. And what emerged was
19:30
this new book that I've just
19:34
launched, called blessings of a
19:34
breakup. So I come up with this
19:39
new word blessing. It's a hybrid
19:39
between blessing and an actual
19:43
lesson, something that you can
19:43
apply to yourself, but it's
19:45
definitely aimed as a huge
19:45
departure of other things that
19:49
I've done. I've never been a
19:49
spiritual and I'm also a little
19:52
nervous about it. I gotta tell
19:52
you because I no one has really
19:55
seen the side of me or heard
19:55
this voice in me and it's
19:58
something new and may turn off a
19:58
lot of people, and I may lose a
20:02
lot of people from it. But I
20:02
really would like to focus on
20:06
the people I would help, I'm
20:06
going to help and those who will
20:10
gain so much from this piece of
20:10
work, the lessons are now
20:16
available to you for free, which
20:16
is pretty cool. So what I ended
20:20
up doing is I ended up taking
20:20
each one of them and making them
20:24
as a daily email. So you will
20:24
look at my website, and you're
20:28
going to see that you can now
20:28
opt in to that. So first thing
20:33
you see on my website, where you
20:33
can opt in and get each one of
20:37
those lessons right now there
20:37
are 50 of them. So over the next
20:40
50 days, I've also included
20:40
other emails, different kinds of
20:45
support emails that I talked
20:45
about some more coaching type
20:48
emails, if you sign up for for
20:48
the lessons, and if you love it,
20:53
and you want to get all of it,
20:53
you can purchase the lessons of
20:57
a breakup on my website for I
20:57
believe it's 995. And it's all
21:02
in one big PDF for you that you
21:02
would download right away. So
21:07
that is all the good stuff that
21:07
I have been doing all year. So
21:11
here we are almost a year later.
21:11
And over the next season, I'm
21:16
going to be talking a lot of
21:16
some of the core elements of the
21:19
lessons. So if you're going to
21:19
be listening to this podcast,
21:22
please feel free to encourage
21:22
you to opt in and get them. I
21:28
also have a Facebook group that
21:28
I'm just starting so that some
21:32
of these concepts can be
21:32
discussed on the Facebook group
21:34
or any other feelings or things
21:34
that you want to share on a more
21:39
intimate level with me, you can
21:39
do so. And if you opt into the
21:43
lessons, you'll see the link in
21:43
my Facebook, you'll see the link
21:47
the Facebook link in that email
21:47
that you get the very first
21:50
email inviting you to the
21:50
Facebook group. So I will be so
21:55
excited to be talking about some
21:55
of this, I'm also still going to
21:58
be having guest speakers and
21:58
authors to mix it up a little
22:02
bit. And right now I have a
22:02
pretty rigorous podcast schedule
22:07
coming up. So I'm really, really
22:07
excited to have you with me,
22:11
make sure you subscribe to my
22:11
podcast, if you haven't already.
22:15
That way, your phone will notify
22:15
you of a new episode. And then I
22:21
will also of course and my email
22:21
list, the new episodes that I
22:25
publish, so that you'll be able
22:25
to see that and get notified if
22:29
you want it done that way. So
22:29
overall, this episode was really
22:33
just to kind of tell you where I
22:33
been and what I'm up to and what
22:37
I'm planning on doing over the
22:37
next kind of several months. And
22:42
I'm now going to be working on
22:42
another book that actually is a
22:46
memoir of my own personal
22:46
journey of love addiction. And
22:51
the title right now the working
22:51
title is I see me in men. And of
22:56
course, there's a little MI, M
22:56
E. And the men part is is you'll
23:01
see that in the print. And so
23:01
that's it's kind of a double
23:04
entendre there. But I see me in
23:04
men, and that is a memoir that
23:08
I've got, I've been working on
23:08
it for a while. But I really,
23:11
really, I'm putting this out
23:11
there to you guys to hold me
23:13
accountable. Because I'm really,
23:13
really hoping that I'll finish
23:17
it up, I have to write a book
23:17
proposal and get that out to an
23:20
agent. And I'm really hoping I
23:20
can get signed. So send me some
23:24
good vibes. And if anyone knows
23:24
any good agents or publishers
23:27
out there, let me know. But I'm
23:27
just starting that process this
23:31
year, along with all this other
23:31
new work that I've done. So
23:34
thank you guys for listening,
23:34
thank you for being so
23:36
supportive. And I really hope
23:36
that you are liking the lessons
23:42
and you can understand where the
23:42
spiritual aspect of my journey
23:47
can really help you as well. I
23:47
really, really don't think we
23:50
can get through any hard time.
23:50
These days without some kind of
23:56
connection to our higher power.
23:56
Because ego is so strong and so
24:02
programmed. I talk about this in
24:02
my book, I talk about how the
24:06
belief system, the thinking
24:06
problems that we have is
24:09
operated by our belief system,
24:09
it's a system of beliefs. And if
24:14
they are distorted, it's all
24:14
operated and led by the chief
24:19
operating officer called ego.
24:19
And ego is the Chief Operating
24:23
Officer of your belief system,
24:23
which is short for what BS which
24:26
is bullshit, right? And the only
24:26
way to get a hold of those
24:33
thoughts and that idle thinking
24:33
that can really lead us down a
24:37
rabbit hole of sadness and
24:37
depression and heartbreak is to
24:41
quell ego and tap into our
24:41
highest self. We all have one.
24:46
And so I invite you to join me
24:46
on this journey and I can show
24:50
you how to do that. My course
24:50
shows you how to do that, but
24:53
I'll be talking about that a lot
24:53
in future episodes. So stay
24:57
tuned for the next one and I'll
24:57
be talking to you soon. Thanks
25:00
for listening. If you haven't already, make
25:01
sure you sign up for your free
25:04
subscription to the lessons of a
25:04
breakup or you will receive
25:07
daily spiritual guidance on
25:07
getting out of your pain and
25:10
fact to who you really are. And
25:10
if you sign up, you'll get
25:14
access to my private Facebook
25:14
group and more good stuff. You
25:17
can find it all there at Lindsey
25:17
ellison.com.
Podchaser is the ultimate destination for podcast data, search, and discovery. Learn More