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local division an country, undeniably

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deep

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right now and

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he'll i'm

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being jones and this is

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uncommon ground

0:35

what about and common ground is the show

0:37

where were exploring what it takes to make meaningful

0:39

change in a country that is as divided

0:42

it our country has the com ambien

0:44

, outlet no matter what side i'll you're

0:46

on on are probably frustrated

0:49

with the mainstream the it's okay

0:52

i get it number by the mainstream media

0:54

and the have been at cnn for about ten years proud

0:56

of the work i've been work there but

0:59

i know that cable

1:01

news cnn the mainstream we

1:03

are reaching everybody and we're not resonating

1:05

with everybody and we may not be returned

1:08

you

1:08

and

1:09

the reality is that on

1:11

tv we taught a certain

1:14

way we can address ourselves to

1:16

a certain perceived audience the

1:18

and that leaves a lot of people

1:20

out the offered it doesn't resonate with everybody

1:23

and i decided i wanted the

1:26

talk to somebody who's doing something about

1:28

it in a very big way her

1:30

name is a be burned tucker you

1:33

heard of are you probably know her by her user

1:35

name on tic toc i am

1:37

legally hype hats and they went

1:39

tic tacs i am legally hype

1:41

as you the law student and she's

1:43

created this incredible outlet for

1:45

herself by going on

1:48

tic toc encode switching explaining

1:51

the news and ebonics or

1:53

would they call african american vernacular

1:56

english a the he to start

1:58

black sea coast of addict if

2:00

you blame new saga black ah

2:03

and isn't to become a phenomenon

2:05

where that sound like are they will use example

2:07

here's how she explains what's going on

2:10

with no knock warrants in

2:12

minnesota

2:13

hi got a letter to play but it's a mixture

2:15

of is it as a few questions as you don't want

2:17

to make the plaza if you meant the ramu vice

2:20

so after he got to and you bought the sign office

2:22

in the homies on a way that is what happened a long

2:24

as a minutes that i figured out that they think they play

2:26

price that angle to the based on the house at ten

2:28

o'clock at night they don't have a family there for a

2:31

pm hidden or to asia oatmeal and wants

2:33

to support the for the mighty the athletes in other ways

2:35

to one of his army got it applies to

2:37

all of these you know how they were so he

2:39

signed up on a place play say that involved

2:41

in a spot when on that book

2:43

the

2:44

there may not be your cup a tea you might need

2:46

a translator for the translation but

2:49

see is getting a massive amount

2:52

of attention in tic tacs

2:54

it's becoming increasingly important but

2:57

as new generation coming out when i first got

2:59

on cnn twitter was really that big

3:01

a deal with becomes huge a

3:03

you tube is huge but for the

3:05

new generation it's all dot tick tock

3:07

the and

3:08

if we're not reaching people were they are we

3:10

gotta stand on one side of this

3:12

kind of here elite college divide

3:16

a lot of people either can be left out or we

3:19

miss informed by other people so

3:21

i wanted to have a conversation with someone

3:24

who certainly could do it the way i do

3:26

in a c e o's you get lost

3:28

in i wasn't used to be a lawsuit and a

3:30

but he's chosen to do it differently then

3:33

she reminds me of family my dad told

3:35

me and my dad said there

3:37

only to kind of smart people in this world they're

3:40

smart people who take very

3:42

simple things and make him sound very

3:44

complicated to try to impress everybody

3:47

and they are smart people who take very complicated

3:49

things the make him sound very simple

3:52

to empower everybody

3:54

that is a kind of smart person that a be

3:56

is and i want you hear from her after

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the to meet you and talk with you

6:02

the you are a and a regional

6:05

boy from the american see

6:08

said i

6:10

consider myself be a good communicator at at think

6:13

i'm good at qb a near here

6:15

you come across us that such as his assistants

6:18

i sleep talk about why

6:21

you decided to use

6:23

your code switching ability the

6:25

to bring news and a completely different

6:27

way in a completely different forums tic

6:29

toc completely different a vernacular

6:33

what why are you doing this cause

6:35

is so amazing is so amazing

6:37

i think you're on the

6:39

reason i'm doing it is is because isolate

6:42

there's so much information out

6:44

there that is not being received

6:46

by people on our community black people

6:49

are , i is less who are politics a

6:51

lot of my friends that i talk to their live

6:54

on here like i don't here in oregon

6:56

that the deal with me whatever and as i as

6:58

a nerd right it affects us ally and

7:01

so i would always as my friends

7:03

i or did you see what happens in on the news

7:05

the other day in a blade grown now i was watching

7:07

leather hip hop or whatever whatever

7:09

then sell our life break it down to

7:12

on the way i view on social media and

7:14

they would like know banner

7:16

you know so when i started

7:18

doing and on social media it was i don't

7:20

think it was going to be that big i decided did it like

7:22

or ominous explain it as if i was talking to my

7:24

friend early

7:27

for people like

7:30

i think that what you're doing

7:32

his revolutionary because for spots hectare

7:34

people don't think about tic tac the

7:36

being a political and

7:38

they think about deal in the people dancing

7:41

on tic toc or whatever they think about twitter

7:43

the being the political format and

7:46

yet you brought politics to tiktok

7:48

and that's where all the young people are and

7:51

so you're saving a whole generation the expectation

7:54

about how news is both be delivered rica

7:57

is you know your dog in a way that that young

7:59

people thought

7:59

you know our when you

8:02

first started doing it i mean you part of the me

8:04

first posted

8:06

then you started seeing the reaction what

8:08

would do your mind because of me year the

8:10

urge you just a law student your dad you're

8:12

you're not a d v all your

8:15

data celebrity that be adds that you just the

8:17

right will acid and all sudden literally millions

8:19

of people are listening to your take on things where

8:21

was it like the first time you realize you're honest

8:25

the first time it was extremely soft

8:27

and so when i made the first video

8:29

i posted it and then i had to go to work side

8:31

and even know what was happening right

8:33

and my phone kept blowing up by people were

8:35

calling me a text me and they're like did you say

8:37

did you see what's happening he likes charlemagne

8:40

of i just posted you and as

8:42

only super like repost know i was

8:44

i going so my phone and it's dislike

8:46

blowing up honestly

8:49

it made me fall right

8:51

you know people were tied

8:54

into ask me questions about politics

8:56

i people were scientists and me articles

8:58

and like can you explain this to me i was going on with

9:00

this ain't you know and that stuff so it

9:02

made me proud of the way now

9:05

people are gonna listen to what's going on like maybe

9:07

now we can make them change in our community maybe

9:09

now we get people instead i'm voting or running

9:13

for office whatever see a but i

9:15

was shot

9:16

definitely that

9:19

one of the key skills being

9:21

able to bridge differences is being

9:23

able to code switch and

9:25

people act like that really bizarre people assume

9:28

that the the version of you that

9:30

i'm target you right now at work or i'm talking to

9:32

right now the gym is the only version

9:34

of you can you talk about what it

9:37

means to actually be a

9:39

multiplicity of of voices a multiplicity

9:41

of perspective or especially as

9:43

a woman of color in a majority

9:45

in a white male damn a the country

9:47

so do the i would oppose which is

9:49

definitely a skillset rights

9:52

on and it's something

9:54

that i did learn to do naturally

9:57

because i've always

9:59

the air

10:00

like the only

10:01

after all right or one of the new black

10:03

people somewhere

10:04

and so

10:06

you don't learn how to the

10:09

land and right in the area

10:11

as i said in the space that you're and and

10:13

so it can be difficult sometimes

10:15

they sometimes you know people say such

10:17

you you want and

10:19

given that that

10:21

you know legs

10:24

you want to you that boy he you know out

10:27

but you have to use another phase but i think that's

10:29

what makes black people and black woman and particular

10:31

so amazing and so unique because

10:33

we can blend in and any any

10:36

crowd right and we can ah

10:38

i think be gentle and i can speak

10:40

ebonics by if i'm in a room with people

10:43

were i need to use the proper been

10:45

at us on and proper english

10:47

as they say that i to do that as well i

10:50

think that will make more valuable him and in

10:52

because we need that we need people who can communicate

10:55

with both sides right we need people

10:57

who can translate the message

10:59

like you think about it or speaking to someone

11:01

who's the

11:02

french right

11:03

you're either to me a break out the french

11:06

so what you have to say to me is a relative

11:09

i don't understand you so i think

11:11

been able to close which is almost like being

11:13

a translator as well because my

11:16

friends don't see cns

11:19

de sade room

11:21

rights than any birds and latest

11:23

say room so that they get them up as because

11:25

that's what they're gonna pay

11:26

in here i've visited the maybe

11:28

other the same room as any by the know what

11:30

that is as bad as as black as bases you can

11:32

fire and it's a different

11:35

this isn't even about the same topics

11:38

you are a law student you are

11:41

somebody you obviously takes a stuff very seriously

11:43

yeah you can't

11:45

translate something without understanding

11:47

it even better the translator

11:49

has understand from

11:52

this side and that fi to be able to

11:54

make the links i was not just twice as hard as as

11:56

initially harder the be a translator

11:59

the pre reading

11:59

it may take politics so seriously because

12:02

of things that happen in your own family in your own background

12:05

talk a little bit about why you

12:07

decide to go to law school and why

12:09

you think it's so important for people in our community

12:11

and archimedes to be engaged simple

12:14

so i decided you going to law school

12:16

because my younger brother was wrongfully

12:19

convicted when he was fifteen years out

12:21

of murder and he was sentenced

12:23

was sentenced years to life in prison i'm

12:27

sorry i remember

12:31

going to trial like our

12:33

promo

12:35

from purposes go to san bernardino to be

12:37

a trial every week

12:39

then i watched the trial and once because are

12:41

very difficult as like what is often

12:43

you know i didn't really understand

12:45

exactly how to allow right fit in it

12:48

that me because i'm fairly smart

12:50

right saw the site hungry able to

12:52

pull the wool over my eyes like that over

12:55

my family's eyes a sigh and and do

12:57

this to a person like never get on my

12:59

watch and japan there

13:01

i made the journey you know to school

13:03

and so when i got to law school when

13:07

i realize how complex

13:09

the law as the is when i realized

13:11

all the loophole the law when

13:13

i realized the language

13:16

of the law is not how we think you

13:18

know the way it supplied of not the way we would think

13:20

this applies and so

13:22

that's where made me realize like people need

13:24

to understand how this how this because

13:27

so many of us and my community

13:29

or been wrongfully convicted or

13:31

you know being railroaded in the justice system

13:33

and we don't know why and a lot

13:36

of times it's taboo to speak about the

13:38

lot about me don't really want to speak about you

13:40

know that have a situation

13:42

because they're embarrassed in our the things

13:45

that people are going to feel like oh well you

13:47

know you have a must have found the and the reality

13:49

is like know we just don't know we

13:51

don't understand the law we don't understand

13:53

how it works we trust lawyers

13:55

we don't know anything about them and they don't know anything

13:58

about as soon as the confirm this thing community

14:00

or that's what you expect them to be able to

14:02

tell your stories and a compelling

14:04

way to twelve people talk

14:06

the forty people they don't know and

14:08

you don't know and don't know you and

14:11

is never spent it in your shoes as a

14:14

that real wednesday the me

14:16

going to law school was like the defender always

14:18

looks like me but the lawyer never death and

14:21

i don't like it

14:22

plain

14:25

and simple

14:26

yeah but now i'm like i'm gonna look

14:28

like my defendants some great lakes

14:30

some of my defendants says in a see a

14:32

familiar face and when we have to

14:34

communicate about your tastes i'm

14:36

going to be able to communicate with you in an effective

14:39

way where you understand what

14:41

i'm trying to tell you what we need to prove and

14:44

i think that will make all the different

14:46

the moving the hear your

14:48

to hear about you

14:51

i have a law degree and i'm

14:53

on

14:54

he be to communicate

14:56

you're getting a law degree your on tic tac trying

14:58

to communicate liquid trying to communicate

15:00

the same thing that

15:03

and things answer

15:04

we do have to pretend and assume

15:06

that everything is his workouts boss be working

15:08

out at the hall of justice it's really not

15:11

and

15:13

i think why we don't want to have you on the pike asses

15:15

because i'm hoping that the people

15:17

who are part of this uncommon ground community

15:20

will be inspired by you to figure out

15:22

no it you know something you

15:25

have responsibility sure that knowledge for people in

15:28

niger the people were to same causes you have the same

15:30

income is you but there's a whole world the people out

15:32

there that really just out now damn

15:35

yeah you decided to to take it to a a completely

15:37

different level but

15:39

and i notice i mean

15:41

you talk to me and cnn right

15:44

, now

15:47

of i suppose love suppose love

15:49

a i

15:51

don't know if i feel i feel so type

15:53

of away see now that

15:56

the darkest times of london loaded well

15:58

as that

15:59

although

16:02

wow i wanted to do was to

16:04

just i want to throw some topics

16:06

at a at you and yo

16:09

and then talk to me and cnn about it and

16:11

then taught me how you would talk save room about

16:13

a cyclical she's just give people a sense

16:16

that show or eight so i'm

16:18

for it is right now the midterms a coming up okay

16:20

and i'm literally with democrats are going to have

16:23

a hard time so just you know in cnn's be

16:25

you just what what what a situation

16:27

that you think the democrats are in right now as we

16:30

approach the midterms

16:31

okay

16:32

democrats are not the greatest place right now

16:34

when it comes to the midterms because a lot of

16:36

people have lost faith in the party's

16:39

they don't feel like the party a strong enough i

16:41

know that black people in particular

16:44

the like there were a lot of promises made

16:46

you know during campaign season and

16:49

we're not being for fail

16:51

hum

16:52

do it alone that was a big one

16:55

for a lot of the younger people who

16:57

came out and vote it for certain politicians

17:00

and those type of issues are not

17:02

be an address in the way that they were promised to us

17:04

and the beginning and so right

17:06

now i think saw the democrats are definitely

17:08

gonna struggle on this election

17:11

unless they can pull america

17:13

end which really quickly

17:16

home and start actually fulfilling

17:19

their promises the older voters

17:21

who actually them over

17:24

to the top that they need to get

17:26

and his and get to get his office

17:28

though that we have talked about at seen it now

17:30

viewer try to communicate that same message either

17:32

to for or about citizen of

17:35

folks who do not watch cnn how would you

17:37

approach as same topic

17:38

okay about the game ah

17:40

the democrats that have messed up right now say

17:43

they not do what they said they was gonna do the

17:46

they are here run intimate blaming everybody

17:48

for it a taste of

17:50

the to be tell you ,

17:52

you taught us humans are help us out are you not happen

17:54

as house on now folks got a problem with you

17:57

be an arrest the i the

17:59

democrats so the

18:01

republican side mess with them other posters

18:03

at least when i say anything to do something they don't

18:05

do what they said he was on do sally's you know with some

18:07

it's bizarre here well no with and a pop

18:10

are so you know him i was like our chances

18:12

with a double we know

18:13

the

18:17

look there a

18:20

iota see above very well as

18:22

a sad to see above day was on

18:25

but you know what i will years what i

18:27

in wrestling

18:29

when you put it forward and

18:31

yell a more authentic way i

18:34

think i'll the multiple

18:36

more people would understand

18:39

i owe me like a few more people would

18:41

understand i mean literally millions

18:44

more people with understand and

18:46

yet i think you would be hesitant to

18:48

come on cnn and talk that way

18:50

that i would do it no

18:52

i

18:52

i will you would do it was that

18:56

cnn summon up the yeah

18:59

obama legally

19:01

hype yes i said what i said says

19:04

, banks that

19:06

my time the sign of sign didn't imply that is

19:08

now cnn and i did the same i message

19:11

same don't want to do so on the speak

19:13

on one's attitude i've been now

19:15

i may be more comfortable to join it says now

19:17

i see that people have received it wells

19:20

birds as them believe yes i will

19:22

why it's fairly i think

19:24

is important because we're trying to figure out

19:27

how to have a country where all these different

19:29

people can get along and can talk and

19:31

in in can communicate and off rightly

19:33

so we stop wasting so much genius as

19:36

that wasting so much perspective it

19:38

in my age and my generation the

19:41

really really felt that i still feel that

19:43

if i can't speak that king's english

19:45

and i have to be able to do that otherwise i will

19:47

never get that platform and so

19:50

was interesting with you pics

19:52

or you might want am having a platform bigoted seen

19:54

it i mean because tic tac is growing so fast

19:56

and with of what you're doing is that is so popular what

19:59

would you say to p

20:00

based on what your experience has been in

20:02

the mainstream media what is being

20:05

missed what is america losing

20:07

out on by not having the conversation

20:09

include more authentic wasn't like the way

20:11

that you can sometimes sooner

20:13

i think we're missing out on expansion

20:16

right i think that we are miss not like you

20:18

said on genius and great ideas

20:20

i think that it could

20:22

work if we also hives individuals

20:25

like myself who can speak ebonics

20:28

the out you know a the the

20:30

data on major platforms because then

20:32

it would be more inclusive write and

20:34

then you have more ideas and how to

20:36

implement more idea

20:38

the people can didn't bother what's going

20:40

on and politics and the world and saturday

20:42

if they don't understand and then you

20:44

only get one perspective rights the you have

20:47

you know we have these major caucuses

20:49

and stuff or black people were they promise

20:51

you know speak on our behalf of the last when

20:53

the last time you came it's offseason as if

20:55

a real denied any feel

20:58

you still given the same as is from the sixties

21:00

or seventies and grain of we still have the same

21:02

if you read from but there

21:04

there are ways to handle loves and

21:06

i think you have a boulder generation now

21:08

that you can tap into right younger people

21:10

are they ready to go toe to toe or whoever

21:13

on an idea that they so passionate about

21:15

and a lot of the ideas and suggestions

21:18

as younger people the younger generation have

21:20

our our gray and they could help

21:22

as v the america that we claim to be

21:25

so i think i might have been

21:28

people who can speak on that levels

21:30

on major platforms this is where the miss

21:33

out on really getting people from communities

21:35

of color lower income community

21:37

is right sir really participate

21:40

american

21:42

democracy right it and what we have

21:44

going on because i guess we're not talking

21:46

to me there have been above me

21:48

you're talking to the person next to me you understand

21:50

what you're saying you're not you're

21:52

not speaking to me and so i don't feel included

22:08

there were the result interesting is that

22:11

things are gonna coming full circle there was a time

22:13

when

22:15

the be able to go on cnn be able

22:17

going in his big platform

22:18

the to have a lot of information and

22:21

that information was very hard to get i'm talking about before

22:23

social media and you google anything or whatever

22:26

and so you know those of us in the media we

22:28

were very specialized emmy we will people who

22:31

were going interviewing people we were going

22:33

near the light loot physical libraries going

22:35

back to stop doing research etc

22:37

info it mass like the expertise

22:40

of you've had a have and and the time

22:42

that you had to have was really more that cause

22:44

educated crowd

22:45

now everybody's got the information

22:47

i mean it's not like you have to

22:49

have of ill repute deaves and

22:51

access to the or less of nexus and

22:54

and lot law libraries to get the information

22:56

everybody has the information which means that

22:59

everybody should have a chance to speak on

23:01

that said

23:02

the to the extent that

23:05

now a logical getting all their information

23:08

from social media a

23:11

that good in other words i mean you

23:13

are not getting all your information on social media you

23:16

can you raise your glasses forces but there

23:18

may be people for whom you are their only source

23:20

how do you what what is a downside

23:23

having social media being though that

23:25

may or only source of information for whole new generation

23:27

i think the downside and i as

23:29

i it's hard to fact check when

23:32

everything

23:32

from social media rights home and you think about

23:35

like you're speaking about by

23:36

the library and having access to lexis

23:38

nexis and things like that's because we

23:40

can cross reference on we come back said

23:43

it leads you that other things that i

23:45

didn't understand other things rights when

23:47

you get your is the erm news on the internet

23:49

unfortunately you have people out there who

23:52

their goal is just to go viral they

23:54

may get their infamous mason from

23:56

a few snippets of information right

23:58

they don't actually do though the research

24:00

or understand the

24:03

information that they're sharing other people's i think

24:05

that said downsides

24:08

on his it's harder to cross reference

24:10

i where'd you get

24:11

the fourth round

24:12

the same time to it's also easier

24:14

to miscommunicate certain

24:17

ideas as well

24:17

when i'm like i said that you doing

24:20

my hope is that it will inspire people

24:23

to then

24:24

the are googling different terms and start looking

24:26

for more information because you do make it

24:28

accessible you do make it more interesting my

24:31

fear that people will stop with take top of my hope

24:33

that the own you be like the gateway

24:35

drug if he he'll be think it's your grave

24:38

of digital breadcrumbs of people to go and

24:40

and find more information unless

24:42

a second have another topic of me as a good thing that

24:44

really puts you on a map for me was when you're talking

24:47

about ukraine

24:48

at a time when people were really confuses

24:50

islands acres you that they confuse it with

24:52

the about what was going on

24:55

and and will and will play a little bit of

24:57

a what you said

24:59

the baby was about

25:01

, a if i were both both

25:03

us have happened country so he moved

25:06

his moved mama

25:08

like a mama while now

25:10

that's as are you aware reduce

25:13

that as a military out there today citizens

25:16

have to do tae bo this it has his eye to defend myself

25:19

right now

25:20

what i thought was interesting about

25:22

your approach was that

25:24

the most of the mainstream media wasn't as you were

25:26

talking about it differently your

25:28

perspective on it was different

25:31

most of the mainstream media at that time was

25:33

really coming either more from the ukrainian

25:35

point of view of from the zaleski point

25:37

of view

25:38

and yet you defy the colored come at it from

25:41

potent point of view

25:42

the talk about that well does that level

25:44

though the very different veto was

25:47

wasn't eight

25:48

the when i say that it was more so

25:50

the kinect set the foundation

25:52

of what actually happening

25:54

and where we sit and death and why

25:57

we might end up

25:57

where we are

25:59

i mean you

25:59

the officer you understand like it

26:02

depends as two sides right and whoever

26:04

can tell the best sorry that this guy that's gonna win

26:07

and so again when you have only one side

26:09

of the story right is it looks like

26:11

well why are the been invaded like

26:13

what have you know and so my thing was like

26:16

none un and you ran up over here and you end

26:18

up over there could be polite his own as a

26:20

as a he wanted any on a

26:22

briefcase higher body in a

26:24

nato looking up on him you don't like it really

26:26

becomes really rights and so i

26:28

think that highness that the premise of oh

26:30

that's why they about that have that conflict

26:33

okay it's not just you know all

26:35

of us and we're just having just having now

26:37

you feel like that's based baloney him and

26:39

he won't

26:40

yeah

26:41

i think the freedom that use deal to just call

26:43

it like you see it to really try to explain

26:46

it's almost like a beard a barbershop nail salon

26:48

a community center laundromats break

26:50

this down for people being able

26:52

kind of really embody emotionally

26:56

we're that person might be coming from that

26:58

also different because we try

27:00

to be very emotional last the i

27:02

get emotional more the most people on tv but in general we

27:05

decided you're just the facts ma'am does give the

27:07

new the on that kind of stuff was you're trying

27:09

to not just convey the fact that and they the

27:11

feelings the get a different

27:13

and tic tac and helps you do that how important

27:15

that you to convey the feelings that might

27:17

be motivating stuff as well as if

27:19

i think it's important because as

27:22

human beings we understand feelings

27:24

probably a lot more than we understand language

27:26

right even if you and i don't speak the same

27:29

language

27:30

i can understand how you feel

27:32

why you feel a certain way race

27:34

even if we don't necessarily agree i can

27:37

understand oh that's why you hausa

27:39

the respective on that race based on your

27:41

feeling so i think that by doing that

27:44

you connect with people more and

27:46

that's kind of the disconnect and disconnect

27:48

and and

27:49

a lot of places now that there is not

27:51

that actual connection with people

27:53

people are not doing what you're talking

27:55

about so when you film your your john

27:58

live in l a though

28:00

many have the my farmers were like people

28:02

delights the whole time i was shaking my head

28:04

as a and yeah you know like you were actually here

28:07

you're being in a can say goods ron and

28:09

so i think that's what are some york

28:11

they'll let you know a lot of people love what you're doing

28:14

also know that nobody can get attention

28:16

without getting attacks as well than

28:18

i did my talk about that that side of it too

28:21

well have been some of the push back and i'll some people feel like

28:23

all as like a year oh

28:26

well put together you you can

28:28

speak wait english for live

28:30

a better term you go to the or law school are

28:32

all this other he buys that be doing this isn't they

28:34

call stuff like how how do you the

28:37

see them above criticism the way and will what

28:39

he say about

28:40

they don't know anything to do a mean because as beside

28:42

the point of what i'm really trying to do you

28:44

know like you didn't say i want to fill

28:47

up on me as praise and pass is my

28:49

information accurate did you learn

28:51

anything

28:52

i mean like you said you're getting their place by for anything

28:54

but the best is not a space that i

28:57

seem to get my energy to right now

28:59

i think that i'm doing something great are

29:02

neither think neither realize how amazing

29:04

you know

29:05

the

29:06

the job i'm doing i nasa to my

29:08

own horn budget

29:10

the way people are receiving s so

29:13

for me i'm more focused on

29:15

the goal at hand which is to give people

29:17

information to get people and my community

29:19

more and bob i want more little growth in this

29:22

low boys in the her to go to law school has you

29:24

can you see night i mean like

29:26

my this one a be i went to represent

29:28

as much as i can go you

29:31

go every one of bill about me close

29:33

with that's between

29:35

you and i'm gonna need to me

29:37

i love that mm that you know

29:40

that's something i think a lot of folks the

29:42

to hear more of because

29:45

the couple things one as the and we all goes without

29:47

any any african american is professional

29:50

there are you that professional most

29:52

as you know the lingo that

29:55

you need to be able to show up with and then there's

29:57

then says well hello second are you you

30:00

leave enough behind you think you're better than somebody

30:02

you bubble blah you talk and white leave

30:04

your token white that's all they should be all

30:07

book who owns the oh trilogy

30:09

know my about you talk and white and

30:12

yet we live in a country where they are different group we had

30:14

in we have to interact with more than than just african

30:16

americans know for americans i've

30:18

often thought disconnected you know from

30:21

archimedes at different times in my in my

30:23

journey if you walk into

30:26

that city council

30:28

me when you walk into

30:30

that school board meeting or you walk into that

30:32

courtroom you

30:34

sound different the microphone

30:37

than their grandmother doesn't you sound

30:39

different the microphone then the young

30:41

people you're organizing were and ,

30:43

can be a real benefit to a community

30:45

cause by it also can be

30:47

can real point of separation where

30:50

is it the you you recognize like

30:52

yeah i have they get himself

30:54

away

30:55

from be aware my family came

30:57

from

30:58

they can become point point a real distress and then

31:00

up on top of that usually people calling you names

31:02

it's hard to have the strength of you have waited as trent that you

31:04

have and what you're doing come from

31:06

i mean when my brother first went to

31:08

prison you know there were so many

31:10

things that people said you

31:12

know without even though in the keys

31:15

without knowing what happened and

31:17

i have to be strong through that you know

31:19

i have found this journey for him

31:22

for over fifteen years and

31:24

so i think that's just where the

31:26

strength com comes from is a it's about

31:28

more than me at the end of the day you

31:31

know what i mean

31:32

you just have to know your audience

31:34

that's when it comes down to and

31:36

i think about the satellite

31:39

i then a day my brother need me i don't have

31:41

the luxury

31:43

really caring

31:45

how somebody else feel about high the down

31:47

as long as i make sure that the end of the days

31:49

that mission is getting handle that's

31:51

all that matters to me

31:53

i'm always trying to figure out ways to reach across

31:56

yeah the i'll politically racially

31:58

economically whatever it is

31:59

people like i care about need more friends

32:02

and your enemy to argue about we would have that

32:04

much and so

32:05

i wonder how you think about that v or

32:07

generation europe or that black

32:09

lives matter generation you are trying

32:11

to make sure that average americans are informed and empowered

32:14

how do you think about the reach out how

32:16

do you think about the oh trying to connect

32:19

with people on the other side history

32:21

i think that it just comes down to

32:23

communication and listening to people

32:25

so i have friends on both

32:27

sides of the i'll write i'm in law schools

32:30

so you know there's a very

32:32

conservative crowd here as well

32:34

as there's a very liberal crowd here

32:36

i have learned so many things

32:39

from my conservative friends

32:41

it made me even go see more

32:43

and for me san right so that i can be

32:45

more informed and and kind of understand what's going

32:47

on so i think was that is really just come

32:49

down to talking to people and listen to people and

32:51

meat in them whether i think a lot

32:53

of time where where's the or i know everybody is talking

32:55

at each other's you know everybody wants

32:57

to devious bigger and badder and my

32:59

idea is the best when best when reality

33:01

life we all want the same thing less is figure

33:04

out how to be like in this together

33:06

on his that's important

33:09

i think when people are authentically who

33:11

they are

33:12

you know and you're authentically a

33:15

the a sister whose brother is

33:17

in trouble your authentically somebody who decides

33:19

you something about it

33:20

and you have a a town and ingenious for being

33:23

will explain

33:24

and in a complicated confusing

33:26

world being able to be the explainer

33:28

and cheese

33:30

as nine just going to be good for black folks that can be good

33:32

for whole lot of folks and i really really

33:34

appreciate getting a chance to target early i like talking

33:36

to people went too early to get it on the ground

33:38

for we got your phone number now know

33:42

that when you have you have show on netflix

33:44

or whatever i guess the i knew you were that i might be

33:46

able to text you feel you've graduated for your emmy who

33:48

knows who's going to happen with you and also

33:50

you know when you when your brother comes home

33:52

i'm not gonna be a big mommy live

33:54

i just think

33:55

i'm really happy be able to use

33:57

my platform

33:58

the show

33:59

my on com aground community

34:02

there's a whole lot of that out there happening

34:04

that you don't even know about death in one

34:06

them is you

34:07

the people your social media handles

34:09

all that stuff they can be in contact with

34:11

a definitely a thank you so much for having

34:13

me my social media handles i

34:16

am legally hype you go buy me

34:18

on you to to solve

34:20

instagram twitter

34:22

i'm everywhere omalu

34:24

get a

34:26

good yes you are so listen own

34:29

it means allowed to have you here i'm sure

34:31

we're going to have you back and little bored watching all that

34:33

all that do think a be burned tucker

34:35

yes as he never heard of her before you have her

34:37

on on common ground yeah you're you're a lot

34:39

more from being a visit to the spanky

34:42

summit

34:44

he did you

34:51

those are become american citizens

34:54

discovery even more and

34:56

, why the statue of liberty literally

34:59

for work

35:15

i love a be that as you may

35:17

feel very old who's ,

35:19

favorite if you allow it to the

35:21

whole new wave come and they

35:23

gonna do knuth where they want to they're gonna express

35:26

themselves are they want to and they're gonna do it it

35:29

know on the format that they feel comfortable i

35:32

think people are missing out on tectonics

35:35

missing out know my generation of

35:37

from and sixty eight he doesn't do the math on that

35:39

we're looking at twitter still the

35:42

target massively bigger than twitter already

35:45

growing exponentially and i think

35:47

that is in same way that twitter

35:49

completely changed politics ah

35:52

with donald trump and others

35:53

i think you're gonna have these tic toc for have completely

35:56

changed politics in a in a different way

35:59

and

35:59

when i love about

36:01

i'm i'm like a be he was trying

36:03

to get same as he was just trying to be

36:05

ours and

36:08

and she's gotta calling and i

36:10

hope hope she inspires you

36:13

cause we all have a lot

36:15

more to say that i think we're letting out it

36:17

and we all have

36:19

the the part of ourselves that we only unlock

36:22

when we feel comfortable we only unlock

36:24

around certain people on that way

36:26

but maybe he said these are getting feel more

36:28

comfortable with more people

36:30

because maybe that's for some will treat can come out

36:32

in tamil entries come from animal

36:34

understanding

36:35

the thing her emotional intelligence

36:37

and being able to explain

36:40

the ceilings behind what's going on

36:42

in an an american lives on the global stage

36:45

is something is really really missing as

36:48

i'm pretty good at this until new year the

36:50

year from easy for easy very a very

36:52

time out never back soon

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