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Welcome to unfucked your brain.
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The only podcast that teaches you
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how to use psychology, feminism,
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and coaching to rewire your
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brain and get what you want in life.
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And now here's your host, Harvard
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Lost Full Rad, Feminist Rockstar,
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and Mask your coach, par a low and
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thigh.
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I know my chickens. Today,
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we are doing a kind
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of a q and a. I'm gonna be answering some
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questions that I've gotten on social media
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lately. Some of them are
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about coaching in general, the
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kind of practice of coaching, questions
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and coaching. Some of them are about coaching
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businesses, some of them are about kind of
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entrepreneurship in general. So
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it's really something for everyone. Just kind of an
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overall q and a. But particularly
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with questions from coaches.
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It's kind of the majority, but by no
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means the totality. Okay.
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First question that I got is
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What is the question that you love
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to ask during a coaching session with someone?
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So there's obviously a million questions
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that I love to ask depending.
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Sometimes I just like look at you with
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a raised eyebrow.
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It's been called a coaching smart before.
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But if I had to, like, pick one question for
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the
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rest of my life, like, if I was gonna be limited to
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one coaching
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question, I think it would be
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why. Like,
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the question why gets
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you ninety percent of where
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you need to go in coaching session.
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It really is such a deep
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all purpose question because it just always gets
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you to the next layer. Like, somebody
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can come in and say, you know, well, I wanna
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talk about my boss, and then you
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say why. And then they say, well, because
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my boss is just I think that
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they're disrespectful. And then you just
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say, why. And then they, like, tell
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you what circumstances are. Right? And then they,
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like, say, and that's, you know, a problem. And then
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you say, why?
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So it'd be, like, really why
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is, like, the all purpose workhorse
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of coaching sessions. So
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I do love that question. Everybody asked that question.
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That is my favorite and then there's like so many that
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are kind of similar or different versions,
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but the other thing that I sometimes love to ask
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like this is what I find the most helpful
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to ask when you have tried like thirteen
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different
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routes to get to where you're going.
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You
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know, you've asked a bunch of different questions
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or you've coached someone on something frequently.
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Like, you've coached them 2345
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times about it. Still coming
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back, or they, like, know that their thoughts
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are irrational about it. but they really don't
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wanna let them go. Whatever. You're you're sort of
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like, this isn't the first time you're coaching
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them on it or they're really
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stuck whatever it is. I like to just ask,
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what do you think you are gaining or
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benefiting? Right? How is this
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story or this behavior or whatever it
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is? How is it helping you? What are you
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getting out of it? because so
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often if we have been, like, coached a lot
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on something or we have a lot of judgment
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about a behavior, we only see
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the negative of it. And that's really
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blocking us from understanding what
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it's doing. Why are we holding onto it?
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Right? We're holding onto it because it is doing
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something for us. It's
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answering some need. It's making sense
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of something for us. It's providing some kind
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of psychological safety for us.
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It is keeping our ego
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feeling intact and coherent or something.
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Like, it all depends on what the issue is.
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But I find that can be a kind
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of unexpected question that really
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makes person think about something from
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a really different perspective. And
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sometimes with coaching, what you're
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actually asking less
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than if you are just able to get the person
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to look at something from a different perspective.
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So it's not always even the case that
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what happens is I say, what
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are you getting from this? How is it helping you?
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And the person comes up with a one line answer
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that unlocks the whole thing? That's not what
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happens. But the mental
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flexibility and shift and creativity
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that is like required
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for them to unhook
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from the way they've been thinking about it and look
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at it from a completely it direction of
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how is it helping me? How is it serving me?
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Why am I attached to this? They've been they've been like so
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identified with. I don't like this
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thought. I don't like this pattern. I wanna get rid of it.
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and sort of it just like surprises their brain
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basically. When you surprise your
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brain, you come up with
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a lot more insight and you start to see
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and notice different things. you're not just
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looking for the same thing over and over again.
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So that is one of my favorites. And
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then another kind of general kind
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of coaching questions. And he said, how do you
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balance managing your thoughts and actually taking
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action? The islands
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makes it sound like there's like an intentional
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fifty fifty going on or something?
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There is not. My friends, like, we're not.
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Nobody is living Martha Stewart life other than
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Martha Stewart probably, and probably
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not even her. So I
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think the question is really like, how
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do I know when to match my mind?
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Do I want to take action? And I
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think the answer is always just like you look at your
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results. Right? If
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you're taking a bunch of action and you're not getting
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the results you want, then something's
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going on in your thoughts. Right? And it's impacting
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how you feel, which is impacting how you show up
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in the actions that you take. And that's why
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you're not getting the results you want. Right? So, like, if
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your thought is I suck
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at selling coaching. You might be
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taking a lot of action going out there
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to like make offers and to
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podcasts and talk to people and blah blah blah. But if
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your thought is that you suck the whole time, it doesn't
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usually produce the result you want because
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the way you're doing it is
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driven by that negative thought and feeling.
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So if you're taking a bunch of action, you're not getting what
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you want, that's when you wanna look at
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your thoughts for sure. On the other
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hand, I think part of what this
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question is kind of gesturing at is that
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it is possible to get to
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caught up in self coaching and not take
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any action. But I think that the
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reason that that happens is that people
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think, well, because my thoughts will
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show up my results, I need to be in the perfect
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place to take action. And that
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is like a very perfectionist
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thought process that is also not
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helpful because thought work and
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action and learning and changing
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results are all iterative processes,
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which means you have
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to iterate you have to do it over and
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over again, learn something each time.
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Right? You can't just like coach yourself to a
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perfect state of calm and positive
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emotion and then take action. Because honestly,
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the minute you start seeing action, some new shit's
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gonna come up that you didn't expect. You're gonna have to
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coach yourself again. So there isn't really a
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point to waiting to that. You wanna, like, coach yourself
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enough to take the action, take the
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action, evaluate, see
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what happened, did you take the action you wanted
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or not? Did you get the result you wanted or
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not? Cut yourself as needed.
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Do it again. And you gotta keep
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iterating forward. Right?
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Do it, evaluate, coach yourself,
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do it, evaluate, coach yourself, do it,
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evaluate, coach yourself. whatever
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the thing is. Like, whether you're trying to get yourself to
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the gym three times a week or you're trying to
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make a million dollars in a coaching business, like, it really
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doesn't matter. It's the same thing. So
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I wouldn't call it a balance because
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that makes it sound like there is a
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like correct ratio. I
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just think of it as more of a dialectic like
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you are continuously doing both
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things and they are building on and feeding
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off of
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each other and you are
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continually evaluating what's
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happening and adjusting based
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on that. Okay.
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Got some coaching business
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questions. So one
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was how did you know your niche?
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And then how did you know it's time to switch from one
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on one coaching to a group? And
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the answer to this is, and
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this is gonna be useful. So those of you who aren't
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coaches too because of how I'm gonna answer this.
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There's no such thing as knowing your
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niche. Your niche is not a thing that exists.
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that you, like, stumble upon and know it.
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That's like saying, like, how do you know if someone is
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your soul mate? It's not a thing that exists
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that you, like, stumble on and have to recognize
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or not. It's just a decision
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you make. I just decided that
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my niche was lawyers. Right?
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And this is really like this isn't an issue
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of semantics. really important how we
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think about and phrase these things. Right?
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How did you know your
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niche sort of implies that there's
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some mystical or
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receptive thing happening like
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that I am discovering it or I have
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to recognize it or I have some knowledge
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has to come from within me. about
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something that already exists or is already
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true. As opposed to, I
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had no niche because I didn't have a business and then
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I decided what my niche was. Some
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people say niche. Some people say niche. I
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go back and forth. So I decided
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it was lawyers. And
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I took my coach, Brook
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Castillo's advice, and I
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I mean, I have many coaches. Bookes was my the
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person who trained me in coach certification
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at the time. That is, you know, still in my
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mentors. But I just when I say my coach on this
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podcast, I could be talking about twelve
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different people that I work with or have worked
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with on different aspects of my life. But
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in this case, I'm talking about Brook, who, you
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know, really taught, like, stick with
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your niche for a year. And I did
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that and I'm really glad that I did.
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I learned a lot and it made me commit
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to it and really, like, work at it
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rather than changing my niche when it didn't
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work immediately. So I decided that
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based on the fact that I had been a lawyer I mean, for
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lots of reasons, like, some that I
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stand by, some that, like, are not how I would
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decide it now. but
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who cares? Like, that's where I was then. And
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my thought process then was based on both,
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like, my professional expertise,
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my professional network, but also like
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what I thought sounded kind of plausible and
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made sense. So it was a variety of
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reasons. And then after about
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eighteen months, I had already made my
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first hundred thousand in a
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year coaching lawyers. And
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I just started to see that I was being
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feeling like drawn to add
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this stuff. Like, this is a good thing
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because I think this is a good example for how to know if
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you are just trying to run away from your from
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a niche because you have niche drama or
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whether you really want to do something else. I
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wasn't like, oh, I wanna stop coaching
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lawyers. I don't like them. They're not buying.
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They're not cooperating, whatever. I had like
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no negative thoughts about the people who
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are in my
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niche. I just kept
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wanting to add to it I was like, oh, when
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I want to also do this body image retreat, and
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then I wanna also coach on dating.
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So it wasn't like a rejection of my current
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niche. It was like, oh, but I wanna help
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people with all these other things too. And
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so in that point, I started the process of
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saying like, okay. Well, is there a way that all these
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things fit together? and that was how
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I sort of created unfocus your
10:23
brain. And I did that work with a business
10:25
coach. I did a day long intensive
10:27
with Rachel Rogers in
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two thousand and, I guess,
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eight seventeen eighteen.
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Anyway, I did a one day retreat where
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we talked about, like,
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everything I've been doing, my core niche, all the
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other stuff I've been doing, and, like, talked
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through kind of what brought those
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things together. to pull together my
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expertise, what to call it, all of that.
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And that was how I figured it out. But
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the point is, you don't just know you're
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niche, you decide it. It's an action. The
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decision is an action. And then somebody is,
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how do you know it's time to switch to group?
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I really just am by the book
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with this. It's time to switch to
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group. when you have a waitlist for one on
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one coaching and you are now booking
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people to start several months out.
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That's when you switch to group.
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Listen. I'm not a sort of mainstream
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business coach. I mean, I offer some
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business coaching to people who've gone through my advanced
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certification. We really focus
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on deprogramming kind of
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the patriarchal thought patterns that are keeping you
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from making money, but, like, I'm not somebody who
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has a whole patented system
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for start from scratch. and go
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to million dollars with these steps of these
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kinds of programs and
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whatever. That that's not my expertise, but I
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will say that when people ask me, this is
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what I say, which is In my
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experience and in my people's experience, it is harder
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to sell a group than it is to sell one on one coaching.
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You need more people coming through your consult
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process to fill a group. So
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don't start a group until you have a
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waitlist for one to one and you are signing
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people up. So when I started my first group, I
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was at that point doing consultation
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calls and taking people's deposits and
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signing them up to start working
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with me one to one, like, two to
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three months ahead of time.
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and my consults were booked out
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like
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two months or
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so.
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Okay. Biggest piece of advice for folks
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in their first few years. So think this
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applies to any business probably, but I feel like
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it's more intense for coaches
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for some reason.
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Your business is
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not supposed to
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just work magically overnight. I
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think that this is like a disservice
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in a way that I don't know. There's
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so many complicated factors with this, but
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one of the things I see so much in my
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students is that because people become coaches
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without really often much
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business experience, nobody's gone to get
12:38
an MBA. Most people haven't, like,
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studied business in college. people
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are, you know, drawn to
12:45
helping people, and they're drawn to coaching, and they
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wanna be entrepreneurs. And then
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they don't really have an understanding
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of what entrepreneurship is
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like. Being an entrepreneur
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is inherently a
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roller coaster experience,
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like and you have to learn
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the whole thing while you're doing
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it. It just the first few
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years especially are just can
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be really tough. And I that's
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not a reason not to do it. Like, lots
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of shit is
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really hard going. Harvard
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Law School was hard. I'm glad
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I did it. Clirking
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was hard. I'm glad I did it. Being a reprocerytes
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litigator was hard. I'm glad I did it.
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Doing the work on my body image to love my
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body was hard. days, it's still hard. I'm
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glad I do it. Like something being hard is not
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a reason to not do it. But
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so much of the suffering I see from
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coaches especially, but lots of kind of
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first early entrepreneurs who don't
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have any background in business and
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haven't studied it in any way and don't really know what's
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gonna happen is that they think
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that it's supposed to be this, like,
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smooth ride where
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everything goes easily
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and you
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just business just starts out
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self supporting from the ground up. That's
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just not realistic. Like,
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most people who start a
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business either are
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working a day job to pay their expenses while they get
14:04
the business up and running or are
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using capital their own if they have
14:08
money or are they borrowing from other people,
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whether that's a bank or family and
14:12
friends or getting business
14:14
partners or getting investment from people they
14:16
know whatever it is. Like, that's
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normal. It's like a normal
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thing to build a business requires
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time and money and effort.
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But for some reason, people get into it and
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they somehow think that it's not going to acquire
14:29
those things or that it is all going
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to happen overnight. So
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my biggest advice for people in the first few
14:35
years is just like keep going.
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Like, just keep going.
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My student Corey just
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posted
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something about how three years ago
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she was
14:45
out of a treat with me in New Orleans.
14:47
and she had made, like, her
14:50
goal was to make a hundred thousand in a
14:52
year. Actually, she gave me two retreats and they the
14:54
first retreat her goal had been to make a
14:56
hundred and she made twelve thousand or
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fourteen thousand. And I coached her
15:00
quite a lot. And
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then the
15:02
next year I
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think was the year she made a hundred for the first time. But
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anyway, she was so she was just like reminiscing
15:08
about how. At this point in the
15:09
year, maybe three years ago or something, she had made
15:11
thirty five thousand. and that
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this year now she had
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made two hundred thousand in the first six months
15:17
of this year. And
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I just like I remember watching
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her go through like, what it
15:22
was like in the beginning, like, the year that she
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made fourteen when she wanted to make a
15:26
hundred. And then, you
15:27
know, the year where she
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got partway through the year, and she was still only
15:32
at thirty five, and she'd wanted to be at
15:34
a hundred or be at fifty, whatever it was.
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Like, I'm just watching her go through
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this process. obviously don't have all the math
15:40
exactly. I don't remember all the math
15:42
exactly. But I remember coaching
15:44
her about the fourteen thousand, which told
15:46
me at the time was twelve thousand because our brains ignore
15:48
money when we have thoughts like this. But
15:50
I remember coaching her about the twelve, and I
15:52
remember when she made her first hundred k, now
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she's made two hundred and worked two thirds the way through
15:56
the year. Like, she's stuck with it. And
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in the scheme of time,
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it has not been that long.
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You know,
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she's been doing this for like
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three or four years,
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but we get so fixated on
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like the first year or the first two years, and
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everybody's path is different. Some of sometimes it
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takes five years or ten years, whatever it
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takes. So my
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biggest advice is, like, stick with it,
16:19
but be all in for it. Don't become
16:21
an entrepreneur if what you want
16:23
is a
16:24
really chill, non challenging
16:27
risk free experience. That's
16:29
not on the menu. That's not what
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we're doing here.
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So you gotta be up for it. You gotta be
16:34
in for it. You gotta be ready to do that
16:36
work. If you
16:38
have been listening to this podcast
16:40
for a while, you would not be
16:42
surprised
16:42
to hear that I call myself
16:44
a feminist coach, and that kind of
16:46
coaching that I teach and
16:47
train coaches in is feminist coaching.
16:50
But
16:50
feminist coaching can mean a lot of different
16:53
things. And what you may not
16:55
know is that I actually have
16:57
a signature framework that
16:59
builds on the concept of
17:01
feminist coaching and
17:03
teaches a
17:04
principal for actually each letter
17:06
in feminist coaching. To give
17:08
you the kind of 101
17:10
of it, founder is coaching the way that
17:12
I teach and train it is
17:15
facilitative and empowering
17:17
mutual intersectional, non
17:21
hierarchical, inclusive, safe,
17:23
and transparent. Those are
17:25
the characteristics that I believe coaching has
17:28
to have to
17:29
be truly feminist coaching.
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And because
17:31
I think this is so important, I'm
17:34
going to be teaching it for the
17:36
first time outside of my advanced certification and
17:38
feminist coaching on a
17:40
totally free training that you
17:42
can sign up for. So if
17:44
you are a coach This
17:46
is a no brainer.
17:47
It is a must know,
17:49
need to know framework.
17:51
It will help you
17:53
understand how to create more transformation with
17:55
your clients,
17:56
how to create a coaching experience
17:58
that's actually in line with your values.
18:01
instead of replicating different
18:04
kinds of hierarchy and oppression in
18:06
your coaching experience and
18:08
as a coach in your coaching
18:10
session. we're not aware of
18:12
the kind of active principles we
18:14
need
18:14
to have. We will unconsciously
18:16
revert to patterns
18:18
and programming that we haven't really
18:20
looked at or considered. So this is
18:22
a totally
18:23
free training and I'm gonna teach you what
18:25
each
18:25
of these words means
18:28
in the context of coaching, which is different from
18:30
the dictionary definition sometimes,
18:32
and how to bring
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these values and principles
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to your coaching, to
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make it more feminist, to make sure that your
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coaching is facilitative and
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empowering mutual, intersectional,
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non hierarchical, inclusive,
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safe, and transparent. So we
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are gonna be doing that on this
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free training you can get all the
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sign up to attend live, or you'll get
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