In this special episode, we have an in-depth discussion with newly elected TUC president Maria Exall.   Is being the first openly LGBTQ+ president a breakthrough moment?  What is the interaction between her Catholic faith and activism? How is the union-Labour relationship (she is also vice-chair of TULO)?  What life is like in the CWU at present given most of the union's members are in dispute?  Access all episodes at bit.ly/DuesUnion. Companion blog here. Music by Scott Holmes. A Makes-You-Think production.