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us Live from the Holy Land Leah

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know it is exactly they get always.

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Woods is a very good a wedge

1:49

lot of the television and it's nice

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and straight at a Hollywood Joshua. Molina

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but. I'm in

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a Wallace city so I can. I wish you

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a happy for. Usually on a. That

2:00

actually have one Jewish guess and one

2:02

gentile. This week we're feeling spicy. We

2:04

have three Jews know gentiles. Is it

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because are no more gentiles who wish to speak to

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us? It's eight years of the cell. There are

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no more gentiles left in the universe With interview them

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all We have spoken to every single one Saturday. First

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were can speak with Dan Passman host of

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the Sport full podcast but his new cookbook

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it's called anything's Possible are also don't Touch

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novel length and we talked to actor and

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comedian a threat Gelman you may seem Brett

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on Stranger Things, Flea Bag many other shows.

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He also my own from Instagram where he

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is very loudly and proudly do as he

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says and he talks to us about that.

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Passes New book of short Stories The

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Terrifying Realm of The Possible. Reduce.

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Three interviews, but. First these three jews,

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what's going on guys doesn't leave the

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house out. Portman Hollywood? well look to

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my great shame Ice I've started to

2:58

celebrate things in isolated trash. a resume

3:00

gila I got to get my shoe

3:02

game going to give the pandemic has

3:05

had a big impact on might be

3:07

part of call you throw what would

3:09

you say You read your on Mugello.

3:11

The kind of sad isn't it? You'd

3:13

be a D Y O m view.

3:15

you did your own Mcgillis exactly this.

3:17

kind of amazing though it's not as

3:19

raucous because has for hims. Past seven

3:21

Hola A we are we talking form leaning

3:24

here. Did you do the whole they have

3:26

them Again I didn't although I know the

3:28

mughal a trap. I just read,

3:30

of course you do. I actually did

3:32

manage to drink to the point of

3:35

not being able to distinguish between come

3:37

on and mortified because. I. Posted

3:39

a picture and as he Heyman

3:41

as a Hamas bring Them All

3:43

Home tweets in which I posted

3:45

a famous depiction of about i'm

3:47

Mortified but I forgot that it's

3:49

it's more, found, the worse and

3:51

across that mortified. Islam. Is that

3:54

you really are that? Most

3:57

I guess that that is t door

3:59

mitzvah butter. From what we are, more importantly, this

4:01

proves you are. You are the whole Mcgillis forget triple

4:03

threat. You are the whole Mcgill. A home legally

4:05

Gorilla I'm a triple threat. You could. See

4:08

you to dance You can read Okay I have

4:10

a Perm revelation because I have to say I

4:12

never quite.what all the fuss was about with Per:

4:14

I'm and will be started preschool this year. It

4:16

was like we don't do with our we and

4:18

we do per hour. But like you wouldn't believe

4:20

that Perm is so fun. It's a whole week

4:22

of the kids just. Funny everyday and I

4:24

was like whatever let's assume Halloween. But

4:27

now I've seen it and it's amazing.

4:29

There's something really transgressive about this idea

4:31

of like this is ours does could

4:33

be a bunch of kids dressing and

4:35

thousand you don't have any idea why?

4:37

Maybe. But. That's okay. like there's something

4:40

really amazing about. like. We actually

4:42

don't need. Halloween Parade is ours

4:44

for the taking. our remembers: being

4:46

younger and feeling super transgressive been

4:48

sure just running around and making

4:50

noise, possibly drinking as an underage

4:52

person abs of very poor clarinet

4:54

player. I would bring the mouthpiece

4:56

of my clarinet, just the mouthpiece

4:58

and a read so on every

5:00

game and I can make just

5:02

the loudest, most discordant noise in

5:04

school. I loved. Anyone

5:07

who's ever been in like middle school bad knows

5:09

exactly. What noise that is. It's unbearable. And

5:11

eighty four, it. And

5:13

they did the congregation. Honestly, I could not

5:15

love porn more. It's kind of an embarrassment

5:17

of riches. As like as if someone came

5:19

and said. To. Like like dressing up

5:21

and give me your friends candy and receiving

5:24

lots of tasty treats. Like sure. That's really

5:26

nice. Other. Also some nice charity some

5:28

but a live you name some gifts for the

5:30

poor was like wow that sounds great. How.

5:33

About. It also entails.

5:36

Drinking. In. Excess of

5:38

I That sounds amazing to

5:40

me. And then finally? how

5:42

about is also a story.

5:44

That. Reads like the World's greatest

5:47

Telenovelas. And. Culminates in

5:49

the story of the zoo's slaughtering

5:51

seventy five thousand of their prosecutors

5:53

and enemies by guys some a

5:56

new me really really well and

5:58

design and entire holiday. Around

6:00

me. This. One has everything but

6:02

I'm celebrating here in Israel form here

6:04

is serious. there is no Halloween Halloween

6:07

as but at this and rumor on

6:09

American television shows and some amazing amazing

6:11

things happened to us on this form

6:13

of her to them because I see

6:15

the really great first producer Korea is

6:18

that and I went to this school

6:20

in Tel Aviv which my great grandfather

6:22

built. not much of a five but

6:24

yeah wow that's it. therefore say I'm

6:26

impressed at the party was intense they

6:29

have like an amazing amazing bad and.

6:31

Every time. When. You know

6:33

whose name was mentioned Instead of grog or

6:35

and like banging and on the pews. They.

6:38

Had the band just play a

6:40

risk from like a cool sounds

6:42

like viola math. Ah man San

6:44

San San San San say it

6:46

was like the most think our

6:48

credible incredibles have sex and every

6:50

one is recipe all the adults

6:52

her dress up it's path to

6:54

the gills than me go out

6:56

to those shows like courtyard work

6:58

my dad would skip school. To.

7:00

Go play with his friends! And. There

7:03

was open bar, hundreds of

7:05

people, Incredible fun! And.

7:07

Or friend rabbi the is there to.

7:09

And. He notices this person standing right

7:11

there in. the show is now called

7:14

Tel Aviv International Synagogue as obviously who

7:16

goes to show in Tel Aviv? It's

7:18

only pretty much Americans and know people

7:20

who moved from France. And so

7:22

this guy standing there. And. He's dressed

7:25

up like Macgyver. And. The

7:27

three of us, being men and women have

7:29

a certain age, are very excited to see

7:31

our childhood hero represented in this way. And.

7:34

Then it goes to talk to this

7:36

person who of course transitive been from

7:38

queens. And see says.

7:41

That's. A really nice cost him and he

7:43

says hey thanks. And. She says you

7:45

must really hate Macgyver. And. He

7:48

says. Who's. Macgyver assists and then

7:50

we look at the sky and will realize

7:52

not only did he not know that he

7:54

was going as Macgyver, I don't think he

7:56

was actually wearing a costume, he just had

7:59

a mullet of. The Jacket and

8:01

those very particular Macgyver Ray Bans.

8:03

And will like have never mind you

8:05

look cool My friend is the eye

8:08

of the art us but that is

8:10

nothing nothing compared to the day. That.

8:13

Are good friend and Sabbath magazine call

8:15

he gave Sanders had these. He decided.

8:17

That. Because today as we record this as

8:19

Monday Night in Israel Monday afternoon in

8:21

in New York Monday morning or Sunday

8:24

or Wednesday. whatever it is analysis is

8:26

the today is on Purim. It's the

8:28

extra day of celebration that you get

8:30

if you live in a walled city.

8:32

so game isn't she was some. He

8:34

decided to celebrate the day by going

8:36

to mass housing the really really amazing

8:38

neighborhood where you know mainly orthodox people

8:40

list and he knew that one of

8:42

them bits vote one of the commandments

8:44

of this holidays to give gifts for

8:46

so had his pockets. Filled with I to censor

8:48

two points it's this is as not nothing like to

8:50

laugh dollars since I did. You know people are probably

8:52

going to ask for gifts and I'm going to be

8:54

done as and sure enough as soon as he walks

8:57

in. A bunch of kids in

8:59

a young boys with arab side last down

9:01

to the waste run to him and ask

9:03

for months. The first one comes Gabe offers

9:05

detention for point. And. A kid looks

9:08

at him. With. A side disdainful are

9:10

going to stay site. Now

9:12

not worth my efforts com guess I do it

9:14

as a job. Dollars is not nothing either like

9:16

ride the subway with this if you at a

9:18

subway in some way to go to. But.

9:20

The kid walks away so all the other kids

9:23

com and gave gives all the other kids money

9:25

because games. Super nice person and then the first

9:27

kid comes right back. And he

9:29

says hey man, I was first. Give.

9:31

Me a coin. And gave says well

9:34

but I offered you a coin or etti and you'd

9:36

turn it out. And the kid

9:38

says okay, but I want to now. Gay.

9:40

Breaches as well as A But I have

9:42

no more points to give you. And

9:45

the kid looks at him and says. But.

9:47

There isn't a T M nearby. And

9:50

gave says i'm not gonna do

9:52

that. And the kid looks at

9:54

him with the site I see, steer pointed

9:56

him and his is walking away says. Nice.

10:00

The. We. Did an amazing

10:02

a half of them have about

10:04

his neighbors. A space is not

10:06

beautiful is is nice. Nice Dlc.

10:08

Gabe says ah for him Here

10:11

from early and like the Muslim

10:13

else that's. Amazing! Isolate like Zed

10:15

Mo really changes since the calculus

10:17

hear. Exactly. There's always more the

10:19

don't worry if is a scan. The

10:21

Qr code suggests that I have been

10:23

my arm aka and sell me. It's

10:26

fine but a Yarmulke with a Qr

10:28

code that accepts donations is amazing. That

10:30

such us ingenuity. Just to the

10:33

stereotype. census. Of

10:39

it's you. And

10:42

D J move the

10:45

goods. Let's

10:47

get that news of the zoos Sasso

10:50

Molina You come in with a personal

10:52

injury. Yes so in the hits

10:54

close to home for yo breaking

10:56

as you see away at which

10:58

university I have a deer. loved

11:01

ones that are was a protest

11:03

outside the meeting of the you

11:05

see the University of California regions.

11:07

I guess the ideas to get

11:09

them to divest from Israel and

11:11

how do they choose to express

11:13

their opinion? They build a pig

11:15

statue, a pig carrying a Jewish

11:17

star in a bag of money.

11:19

Once again I guess conflating all

11:21

Jews with. Israel and coming up

11:24

with the at Not that I

11:26

support anti Zionism, but coming up

11:28

with a mode of expression that

11:30

fails to distinguish. Between at

11:32

the Zionism an anti semitism at least

11:34

for once the university spoke to the

11:36

Jewish or Nord said we are offended

11:39

and deeply saddened by the ugly It's

11:41

anti semitic caricature that was displayed as

11:43

part of a protest aimed at the

11:45

University of California Board of Regents them

11:48

many usually it's on Wednesday and Thursday

11:50

and the protest ended and the displays

11:52

been removed but not without doing I

11:54

think the kind of damage it was

11:57

intended to do and to make Jewish

11:59

students and. Professor that you feel I

12:01

feel. Less. Secure about their

12:03

safety in and around campus isn't

12:05

a just wonderful that all the

12:08

pretenses gone. Only just love

12:10

advantages like straight forward star, fully a

12:12

pig with money is really refreshing. It

12:14

is nice when I don't have to

12:17

pick through and figure out what the

12:19

protesters are saying. They're just right on

12:21

the on the nose As a word,

12:24

Yeah, this is this a grouse. The pig is

12:26

on fire. The up says i

12:28

asked the doctor box it's it's bad

12:30

when not anti semitic were just at

12:33

a zionist guess that you money grubbing

12:35

pig heaps users. Yeah,

12:37

it's it's it's it's to the. Pegasus offensive

12:39

is the pixels we like bacon or are

12:42

we the pigs or that making fun of

12:44

us at jews to usually not eating pork

12:46

we. Are the greedy Yeah, where

12:48

the greedy pigs Were the pigs And

12:50

we can even eat pigs right? Wow

12:53

wow wow that that next. Had Cpm.

12:55

As poor as said they must

12:57

grab by the money but. You know

12:59

sometimes though these horrible things happen we do see

13:01

to me news coming together and that is what

13:04

we saw in New York But one of my

13:06

favorite places and I'm yelling i think one of

13:08

your as I said spent a lot of time

13:10

with me What Esses Cafe on the upper west

13:12

side of Manhattan and the front of the restaurant

13:14

and that the sidewalk near at work vandalized with

13:16

messages reading free Gaza and on the sidewalk a

13:18

set of for mine here to support genocide. Which

13:21

is really funny because of you know jews

13:23

you know we never line up like it

13:25

as a matter of was a big excuse

13:27

me djelic I got tied to have a

13:29

question that's the to go in there real

13:31

quick and grab something like line high you

13:33

you really don't know as right You obviously

13:35

haven't subject lot marred of the week before

13:37

police arrived as despite. People just came and

13:39

started cleaning it up. There are some photos

13:41

of just people someone has it is really

13:44

flag draped on them this passers by getting

13:46

down there scrub it out and it's depressing.

13:48

but seeing this response me as a bad

13:50

I'm like the responses so nice people came

13:52

together is that where the bar is so

13:54

low that I'm just like with some nicely

13:57

we came together to clean off the anti

13:59

semitic. Whatever way, We can find I think

14:01

and. Yeah, but I just say we do

14:03

have some good news. Here are some good

14:05

news for the jews for now at least

14:07

Sprayer agree. To a headline from The Jewish Chronicle.

14:10

Aaron. Taylor Johnson Rumored to become

14:13

first Jewish James Bond and I

14:15

will have you know that rumored

14:17

is spelled. Oh you because this

14:19

is a British Public servants of for

14:21

a for tonight's remorse about Aaron Taylor

14:23

Johnson some scan read you a murder

14:25

bit of this article. Because this is

14:27

this is big news Stews after Aaron Taylor

14:29

Johnson is rumored to have been quotes formerly

14:32

offered the role of James Bond for the

14:34

next film In the popular. Franchise Or oh,

14:36

and. He's become the first Jewish after

14:38

to portray the illustrious Double O seven

14:40

spy. Speculation began early last year when

14:43

Taylor Johnson, thirty three, known for his

14:45

versatility across roles in tic as Bullet

14:47

Train and Know Our Boy was rumored

14:50

to have met with Bond producer Barbara

14:52

Broccoli for a secret addition. Through

14:54

which he became the front runner for the coveted role.

14:57

This. Could be big for us. Our

14:59

first seems Bonds I. I was thrilled

15:01

to this news, particularly because I remembered

15:03

and I have now confirmed that I

15:05

created a hash tag game. And

15:08

twenty eleven on Twitter called Jewish

15:10

Bond Films. Here. Were my entries

15:12

and now are my suggestions for the first

15:14

film starring. Rg respond. Or

15:17

diamonds are expensive Misfits always

15:19

say never again. Hymans are

15:22

forever. The

15:24

spy who loved me through a hole in the see. Musab

15:28

take forever as this is recommended

15:30

by some and they bend the

15:32

Levant states octopus she's. Those

15:36

are my chances. It's for the first to respond

15:39

film you Been ready for this for over a

15:41

decade of security. Thirteen years I've been waiting for

15:43

this moment. I'm thrilled was the only thing that

15:45

I could think about is. If

15:47

Aaron Taylor Johnson married actress

15:49

on the at tailored Joy?

15:51

Yes! They. Would be What?

15:53

No air And and on the ah Taylor

15:56

Johnson Taylor joy and love it till adroit.

15:58

Oh Johnson I think this is exciting. Until

16:00

of course people like inevitably start like protesting

16:02

against the idea of a Jewish. James Bond which

16:04

I feel like is a museum. Now not as he

16:06

semitism, it's it's just anti Zionism because

16:08

we don't want to read to go to

16:11

a parody Hebrew as James Bond by. This

16:13

will lots of hunting game and he does over

16:15

the to. Do much better than yours but

16:17

I imagine our a brilliantly our listeners have

16:20

of all the suggestions I will say our

16:22

producer does cross said that his tagline to

16:24

be seeking not snored oh that's good as

16:26

very good is tweak for the for the

16:29

roles that see you should be his mother.

16:31

Arm and is Not Am. A

16:34

sucker for so I'll invite all of you

16:36

listeners to write an unorthodox it's have like.com

16:38

more likely to be enraged these be as

16:40

boss which in the den a take movies

16:42

because it was Judi Dench dame Judi and

16:45

yesterday com mom. So. Far,

16:47

but as a mom. With. I

16:49

go hiking airdrop right now a know

16:51

as yes I am in Switzerland yes

16:53

I will do what you asked me

16:56

and be amazing but honestly we already

16:58

we've already had a Jewish James Bond.

17:01

His. Name was the Zohan and you

17:03

do not miss the greatest do

17:05

a super agent ever to edges

17:07

and are always on far. We.

17:09

Have one more entertainment related story. This

17:11

a little bit less exciting, but I

17:13

here's here's a headline for your original

17:16

read: Power Rangers Months and clothing line

17:18

censoring Hitler quotes. Yeah, I saw this

17:20

Hits me more than you guys have

17:22

like Power Rangers with like a real

17:24

sable of my childhood. I'm. Too old

17:26

for the original read because what? There were other

17:28

reds who followed. Yes, yes, there was

17:31

a recasting. Yeah, there was. There was

17:33

a lot. So here's the article. Austin

17:35

St. John, best known for playing Z

17:37

Suddenly Stop the Original Red Ranger and

17:39

Mighty Morphing Power Rangers, recently announced that

17:41

he will be launching a line of

17:43

merchandise called The Warrior Line The New

17:45

Any such a feature quotes from prominent

17:47

historical figures. Speaking on a podcast, St.

17:49

John explained the choice to include quotes

17:51

from Hitler. He says, I'm going as

17:53

famous quotes from Warriors of All Elks

17:56

including the terrible ones Hitler was, you

17:58

know, a dinner on steroids. Some

18:00

pretty good one liners. For God

18:02

he continued. The point is to look to

18:04

our pass to leaders both. Good and terrible

18:06

and take from them what you can. This

18:09

is an inch interesting interpretation of that. What

18:11

would you guys? Think about this as he

18:13

gets a bad idea. Some pretty good one

18:15

liners like like work makes you free That's

18:17

a great while my moods but that and

18:19

the teaser but it around I want that

18:21

I'm at a laptop sicker down to I'm

18:24

curious to know with which of Hitler's Angie

18:26

one liners make it onto those clothes. The

18:28

line is called.hitler Baby one more time. I

18:32

feel like we do this better than all these

18:34

people exist. Let us. Decide you're a

18:36

sensitive? Yeah, Seriously awesome since all much

18:39

as such as higher jews you want

18:41

to hitler towards jews will replace you.

18:43

Is it a line of brown shirts

18:45

that I have. Ah

18:48

well. Thanks Everyone who makes the New is easy

18:50

for us to laugh at as is as more

18:52

as more important than. Ever. These days so I've

18:54

read, parent or you keep, You keep doing whatever it

18:57

is that you're dealing seem. To Matthew

18:59

in published. On our podcast. Past

19:24

posts the sports or podcasts which is

19:26

now and it's fourteen year of telling

19:28

stories about food is also one of

19:30

very few people living today who was

19:33

invented and entirely new pasta dishes. cigarette

19:35

there is cause to sell it and

19:37

you confided in your grocery store. Of

19:39

course we ask them about that but

19:42

we also talked with him about his

19:44

new cookbook. anything's Possible eighty one inventive

19:46

pasta recipes for thought. The people here's

19:48

definitely l with a one and only

19:51

then passed. There.

20:00

Has been welcome to. Unorthodox! Thanks for home

20:02

is going to be here! This is very

20:04

exciting for us for me to our use

20:07

tablets there are my a killer Get to

20:09

be inside the hallowed halls. You're. Inside the

20:11

house? You're inside our windowless room Or the

20:13

became. Are packed. Just sit around and I

20:15

want to go straight for the juggler. My

20:18

way of introduction: A Red. ah the book

20:20

is absolutely gorgeous since love that Reddit a

20:22

means of them. She's like look at a

20:24

cookbook used for down to skim milk if

20:27

it's this last we read but there's a

20:29

specific recipe which is the most Baller Kugel

20:31

recipe from what I have ever seen in

20:33

my life. So first of all, What's.

20:36

A good the west be doing in

20:38

a book like this as a couple

20:40

tells of others mad crazy. So sublets

20:42

the whole book is is sort of

20:44

non pasta dishes and so there's no

20:46

recipe for tomato sauce. there's no. Centered.

20:49

Issue: Meat sauce if you want to me the

20:51

saucer tell people how to the best. Charged me

20:53

as odd to gets. I really wanted a tunnel.

20:55

I have been doing different ideas and being a

20:57

Jewish person has eaten my share of cook. All

20:59

I wanted there to be some sort of Jewish

21:01

component in the book. So. He lives

21:03

references to some of the Us Jewish connections

21:05

to Italian food and pasta history. Wish our

21:07

others have rid of I really well as

21:09

you've seen them spent Odetta, Jasmine was at

21:12

book and Leah Canings new both a kind

21:14

of wanted to have an excuse to mason

21:16

some of that stuff for folks who are

21:18

unaware that histories and then I also just

21:20

felt like I grew up. A. Cuddle

21:22

was often their special. It brings the

21:24

like, your bagels and lox and way

21:26

for salad and cuddle. And I don't

21:28

go like Gilts was just there wasn't

21:30

a xenophobe Israel is that. It looks

21:33

as if it was something that everyone

21:35

felt obligated to have their, but nobody

21:37

was especially excited to eat garlic. If

21:39

you grew up with your grandmother's cuddle

21:41

as the base them as you look

21:43

forward to getting bullets fired, this is

21:45

wrong by like for me it was

21:47

this always an afterthought and I've never

21:49

heard anybody sound very Saturday google one

21:51

person in the sermon. Particular. I

21:53

hate isn't going to thank you. I

21:55

don't understand it. and we foods that are

21:58

those sweet or savory like a new. Clarity

22:00

and my life. I don't sound and

22:02

like the Us and he wanted to summit you want

22:04

the food the desired. I saw it. It's always different. You never

22:06

know what is going to be and I don't trust it. A

22:08

success. It's a great point and I agree

22:10

with you that's his exit like I have

22:12

sued like sweet and savory in some situations

22:14

with me the problem with additional cookbooks as

22:16

it does, it's not enough of either. A

22:19

sort of like a little sweet, innocent, a little

22:21

savory but it's mostly kind of blah and so

22:23

what I want to do with amp up both

22:26

the sweet and savory as after a lot of

22:28

test is I'll our our I was at a

22:30

lunch one day sucre down on Mcdougall freezer New

22:32

York City if you know middle eastern. Great.

22:35

Food. That. Says she does a lob

22:37

know there's always have. This. Is the best!

22:39

Loved my read the So it's a different

22:41

topic in a very tangier, extremely creamy sort

22:43

of yogurt. and she did. It was a

22:45

precedent relish on top one time and it

22:48

just was so good and salty and sweet

22:50

and luxury of both News and I said.

22:53

Could. I turned this into a couple. Years.

22:55

So I sort of sickness is or is

22:57

that is at a saw the gym regularly

22:59

or low enough when I was right about

23:01

it as a cookbook yes it affects every

23:03

meal of the consider plaza are the most

23:05

for that it is possible so as a

23:08

yes every of that maybe this the pasta

23:10

so I typically could was made with what

23:12

you're caught a season sour cream and I

23:14

said one of the what it used lubna

23:16

instead of very tangy. Type. Of

23:18

yogurt and then brainstorming and testing abruptly

23:20

my recipe developers. We completely jettison the

23:23

sour cream and the kind of seasonal

23:25

would love that buttermilk. Was.

23:27

Also very takes out a we have tested

23:29

in as I want more tank more tang

23:32

it's more se we removed the sugar entirely

23:34

unlike the stephanie be removed the sugar entirely

23:36

from the congo and instead did a person

23:38

and relish the you drizzle on top. The

23:40

rest is the book of you can do

23:42

a million other fruits if you don't have

23:44

rhythm and butts this to me. The other

23:47

problem with google is that are often comes

23:49

out dry. As it's often the recipes

23:51

the biggest for it. Or. Not very specific in

23:53

terms of how long to cook guess and how

23:55

to know when to take it out and people

23:57

to leave it in that if whatever it's rise

23:59

in there better make sure it gets cooked and

24:01

then they overcook it and it's dry and crumbling.

24:03

Get still somehow. Mercy Yes this is the so

24:05

I said was going to. We're going to make

24:07

a very tang he was in to make it

24:09

through your as a sweet relish. Never going to

24:11

put a lot of thought and effort into the

24:13

cooking instructions to make. said he will take it

24:15

out when it's just cooked, when it's still little.

24:17

it's custard eats and melty and said. There's. A

24:20

very serious plastic note: Some egg noodles

24:22

are sold in one pounds sixteen. After

24:24

this is what I know to the recipe rape but are often.

24:26

Sold in twelve ounce packages. I don't know why

24:28

but it's annoying or sample the recipes, call for

24:30

twelve ounces. I think six analysis is better because

24:33

it is more possible pile up above the liquid

24:35

line into baking pants and those are the best

24:37

possible turn. Chrissy got a brown and the ovens

24:39

if all the process of much you don't get

24:41

that. and if you reduce the amount of liquid

24:43

the coolest fight and will be more prone to

24:45

drag out see Really want? Six. And.

24:49

If it means as my suit well that cited

24:51

as you'll find a used for the extra eight

24:53

ounces agnew a cook Quickly you can drop them

24:55

brought into any soup or stew and the be

24:57

ready almost instantly. It's to me that is what's

25:00

fun about this book. Not only that are revolutionizing

25:02

cuddle and bring it into the past. The cannon,

25:04

The possible cannon. but think that this is you.

25:06

This is what we go to you for right?

25:08

Like the storytelling, the personality. that's what we've done

25:11

for me on this purple you sort of brought

25:13

that fun and that know how. But also the

25:15

fat sadness I would say like is very accessible.

25:17

Everything that you do have a you and that those

25:19

with us going for was I really wanted to because

25:21

I feel like. As I was fourth

25:24

in this process a manner in a cookbook

25:26

and I'm not a professionally trained chef, I'm

25:28

a pretty good home cooking just as lot

25:30

of opinions about eating kudzu as well as

25:32

a hearing about that, the anus and so

25:34

I say that I write their idea. Of.

25:38

Hundred one of the like pulled us kernel of in

25:40

the book and like his why I'm doing it this

25:43

way. Here's the thought process behind it says even people

25:45

who buy a lot of cookbooks don't really know what

25:47

goes into it or wide and decisions get made where

25:49

you know. We also did a whole four part series

25:51

on the sport full at the making of this cookbook

25:53

the gets into a lot of be so as will

25:55

give you new perspective on what was into a cookbook.

25:58

but those kinds of decisions are agonize and. I'm

26:00

I've been doing creative stuff for twenty

26:02

five years and I've done radio, podcast

26:04

and tv and video and books and

26:06

writing and live as all these things

26:08

and I have never in my life

26:11

was on a project to the required.

26:13

This many decisions is an infinite stream

26:15

of seemingly miniscule, but collectively massive disorders.

26:17

And one of them is how many

26:19

ounces of. Egg Noodles recall for most

26:21

of the Badger twelve but is that can make

26:23

the best causal. We find a sixteen and so

26:25

like bees of the things you've says about and

26:28

stress about and Lily coming up in a bit

26:30

as what you wanted another day is free recipes

26:32

to work for people. And. So that's

26:34

also why I wanted to explain why I was

26:36

due to a certain way doesn't It will also

26:38

make it more likely to will follow the instructions

26:41

as it has been like whatever. It doesn't matter

26:43

how many Amazon name is, no it really matters

26:45

is why it matters. Idyllic. With cookbooks you learn

26:47

to make a recipe and then you learn to

26:49

cook as an elemental piece of this which is

26:51

like how can you cheat some and to be

26:53

a a better cook ware herb like a more

26:56

confident cook some cook. For certain as

26:58

and there are whole books out there like some

27:00

Unicef's all fat ass of here tend to. Lopez

27:02

also put the food love that really do is

27:04

that guy's poetry school in a boat as I

27:06

don't have the expertise to do that. but I

27:09

did want to explain the why. And

27:11

it's on the you explain the some into some one of

27:13

the give you tell them why you figures to be done

27:15

a certain way they're more likely to unjust season your point

27:17

of view I would think so. I. Just felt

27:19

that also to sort of makes it more

27:21

engaging. I go to the said Greg Abbott

27:23

isn't together when they read the books. The

27:26

books called anything's possible. What else is

27:28

possible in this book besides. To revolutionize and

27:30

cuddle be I mean I began for the

27:32

point that almost anything to be turned into

27:34

a passed in the seventies. Maybe you lend

27:36

themselves more readily than others but there's a

27:39

lot of Middle Eastern and North African ingredients

27:41

that most of the be familiar to anybody

27:43

who spend time eating in Israel's one of

27:45

my favorite this is is this some roasted

27:47

artichoke and preserve lemon This There's a lot

27:49

of vegetarian pasta dishes in here. There's also

27:51

a big focus on texture the the The

27:53

pasta dishes that a lot of we we

27:56

often in America are pretty monitored for oil

27:58

and I'm a big tech. For either. I'm

28:00

very fast and by this concept the

28:02

sensory scientists call dynamic contrast is when

28:04

you bring together different textures in the

28:06

same bite. That's. Why? like every good

28:08

candy bar has like a chocolate cel and

28:10

then kind of a good gooey and then

28:13

there's some new get an image of the

28:15

creamy the middle and as you bite through

28:17

those different textures he is a very pleasing

28:19

sensation so I wanted more passes as the

28:21

have dynamic contrast and have varying testers more

28:23

past decision easily have it certainly isn't noodle

28:25

dishes have a millionaire from ways from corporate

28:27

tax for so we have some this is

28:30

a pen grip todos or season toasted bread

28:32

crumbs or but I'd miss uploaded to some

28:34

of the corn us let's say to this

28:36

is a lot of tech services. Know the

28:38

source of the sort of using ingredients that I

28:40

love like kim see so we're in. we're not

28:42

to do traditional cabrera do a kim see carbonara.

28:44

it had some spice when you cook the kimchi

28:46

the path mls a spice a little it but

28:48

it's still a sedated it's currency and and you

28:50

get the rich creaminess of the eggs and I

28:52

mean that is I love but we we did

28:54

a team a bowl and a's so that some

28:56

team as like us and indian displaced ground meat

28:58

like to meet any this that is to billie

29:00

made with ground meat for any cuisine is a

29:02

natural to be matched up with meat sauce but

29:04

with new flavors. so he did a key a

29:07

bowl and a. Is that has all these Indian

29:09

spices and at that is just like flavor for

29:11

days. I do want to talk to

29:13

about four words. Hotdog Pasta Salad that

29:15

by be the most Italian dish in the

29:17

book. that sensible that those the rise of

29:19

the as like oh this is a common

29:21

this in Italy. this is a real Italian

29:24

thing especially in the summertime in the cafeteria

29:26

style restaurants. A robber and sort of like

29:28

the Sax on the beach for people looking

29:30

for quick snacks and eight his past afraid

29:33

a cold pasta this leading of as high

29:35

as seventy. Italians, Love hotdogs. Lovato

29:37

is not know that than a we have all

29:39

these very romantic ideas of Italian cuisine and that

29:41

like candlelight, dinner buggy and the ah to death

29:44

of that any or whatever but the truth is

29:46

just as the rest of us if the I

29:48

have sometimes estate a quick meal at lunch or

29:50

there at the beach in they want something delicious

29:53

and comfort food. So. They do these past

29:55

as with like whatever random house to say they

29:57

are lying around as got hot osmosis, grab a

29:59

can opener, They'll have all of the

30:01

canned corn can't Onions are stuff out of

30:03

a can't those up in tune in it

30:05

and a little de mayo and it's authentic

30:07

Italian style pasta salad. and yeah, I mean

30:09

what's that heard of that existed on my

30:11

disasters or the books that. Is Amazing! So

30:14

you and I first connected when we came

30:16

out with our list of the one hundred

30:18

most Us foods has come a highly debatable

30:20

less you featured that on the portal and

30:22

you like had thoughts about this and I

30:24

see like a really wonderful deep with you

30:26

on like the nuances of Jewish food in

30:28

your life like besides to the like what's

30:30

your hottest to exclude tape like what do

30:32

you hate that he love when you grow

30:34

up less. About I'd I grew up.

30:36

Very. Serve Eastern Europeans who assume so it

30:38

in in the New York area so bagels

30:40

and lox by for salad brisket, cogo like

30:43

I said master Ball soup so my mom

30:45

worth late Tuesday night and Thursday night and

30:47

so those are the nice that we had

30:49

the than any gave us dinner at my

30:52

parents are out working and Tuesday night was

30:54

cottage cheese pancake night. there's and I was

30:56

hot dog night. Tuesday night was kind of

30:58

his pancake night. that's a very thoroughly Russia

31:01

and Eastern European thing is that savory cause

31:03

he's picking the sour cream a little bit

31:05

of sure to be. Europe I

31:07

make the for his last last my daughter's ask for

31:09

them are going to make those but that that was

31:11

every Tuesday night. That's. Probably the said

31:14

less obvious sort of I a Jewish food

31:16

which it wasn't even like. It's funny in

31:18

retrospect because I don't remember my mom ever

31:20

same like this is a Jewish thing and

31:22

as it's probably some non jewish like. Russian.

31:25

Or Soviet era folks would probably know this

31:27

despite like makeover I'm I saw this is

31:29

a pretty Jewish. they will be had cause

31:31

no one else is adding Robin very to

31:34

restart No one else has his utter geek

31:36

where it was only really in the past

31:38

maybe ten years. As I've gone to

31:40

Israel couple times and to sort of learn

31:42

more about the entirety of Jewish food, they

31:44

gain a deeper appreciation for how diverse it

31:46

is and how end. And I mean I

31:48

love Middle Eastern and North African food. All

31:50

those in I love spicy food and I

31:52

love anything as lemon or preserve lemon and

31:54

it We have lemon wallpaper atkinson. I'm

31:57

more. Intrigued by the hot dogs as as the your

31:59

Italians. It coming and. Five.

32:01

And I think of hot dogs. Been raised Jewish, know? Me

32:03

too. I know, but now I know. Now I'm speaking of

32:05

them as Italian. Or hum, it's of. I think this

32:08

point has also sort of crossed over. like bagels.

32:10

yeah, maybe hundreds and one though I mean, they

32:12

are as I grub levin bagels nicer to have

32:14

like. Mixes. This is very

32:16

few good bagels out there and because to become

32:18

very mass produce such top of this little bit

32:20

in the in the past a cookbook because I

32:23

wanted to think deeply about how cuisine evolves because

32:25

Italians have a stereotype of being very protective of

32:27

Italian food is only one way to do it

32:29

and that's the way that the known as have

32:32

always done it. And in my research for this

32:34

book was the i learned is that there's a

32:36

lot of mythology around that that's Italian food. A

32:39

lot of the most famous pasta dishes have been

32:41

invited the past hundred years and they continue to

32:43

season of all just as cuisine everywhere does. And

32:45

there are new boss just being invested in Italy

32:47

today in certain restaurants and so I explored that

32:49

and it made me think about you know, like

32:51

kind of. What? Do I have to add to

32:53

this? Sort of on Don't Evolution and Us But like. It's

32:56

a delicate balance because if a huge come to cuisine

32:58

that isn't yours, you want to be thoughtful respectful of

33:00

it. You. Are earned the right to put

33:02

your own spin on it. and then I'd sort

33:05

of like a bagels and cosmos at all these

33:07

crappy bagels the people are making them kind of

33:09

like wall I don't want to do to someone

33:11

else is cuisine what some he was done to

33:13

Vegas Is this a bagel is not just or

33:15

roll with a hole in the middle of a

33:17

list of see May with high gluten flower sorry

33:19

gluten free people at Cb Very Tsui to be

33:21

Christian the outside and Susan the inside. a really

33:23

good baseless. make a sound when you bite into

33:26

it and will be a deafening crimes but you

33:28

should hear same sound as is a really good

33:30

really fresh bagels. as he told. That it's not

33:32

that great. And. I just feel

33:34

like bagels to become gigantic and very fluffy.

33:36

They're not shui, they're not crispy, they're not

33:38

fresh. The last that away a little bit.

33:40

there's there are. Places. All over America

33:42

making phenomenal bagels, but you're there to seek them out

33:45

of their the exception you know it's. Funny

33:47

you mentioned pasta dish

33:49

inventions. You're. More than a pasta

33:51

dish and then during you invented a safe

33:53

as possible. For our listeners who do not

33:55

know this artist like us, please tell them

33:57

cast the telly, Tell them. About it

33:59

though. There is so that a sport for series

34:01

called mission Impossible which is pretty epic in you're

34:03

welcome to listen to. The short version of the

34:06

story is that I i set up to event

34:08

of food I decide to invent a new past

34:10

safe because I just felt like the lot of

34:12

seeps out that kind of mediocre. I came up

34:14

with these three criteria that I used to judge

34:16

all pasta saved so on his fourth ability how

34:18

was it stands for how easy to get out

34:20

for didn't even this sauce ability how the sausage

34:22

here and to think ability which is as satisfying

34:24

as it's as if your teeth into it's as

34:26

in a lot of pasa safes are good at

34:28

one or two of these things. But very

34:30

few now. All three a spaghetti. Barely.

34:33

Even gets one is very hard to get

34:35

a good by the spaghetti on the fourth

34:37

a disease or too big or small others

34:39

dangler you finish the past and half the

34:41

sauce a on a plate and was is

34:44

very good Spaghetti could just write this not

34:46

especially to thinkable So I set out to.

34:48

Try. To come up with a safe the would

34:50

sec all these boxes and it's a three

34:53

years. My wife and everyone I talked to

34:55

in the past and a seat on the

34:57

was a terrible idea. Things like all that

34:59

on tape testified that fact that it was

35:01

much harder than I anticipated. I thought that

35:03

the hardest part would be just coming up

35:05

with a good idea for a saber the

35:07

had been done before. But. As it

35:09

is a lot has been done is to this is

35:11

only a few hundred seats. there's like twelve hundred name's

35:13

Susan Susan three or four hundred seeps and a lot

35:16

of them are are. Were made

35:18

a deal with hundreds of years ago that

35:20

when options are very limited. What's her as

35:22

we much harder is is I wanted to

35:24

mass produce that I want to actually get

35:26

a maiden actually sell it is wanting a

35:28

picture of a shape yet to put on

35:30

Instagram. I did not want to gimmicks and

35:32

so finding a safe that would be legitimately

35:34

good and could be made by traditional plus

35:36

to make machinery. That was a

35:38

big limitation. By. Overtime overcame at

35:41

Athens. Gold color is the wrong and I

35:43

came out with the say podcast Could tell

35:45

he means waterfalls The source save that as

35:47

these sort of two strips of ruffles that

35:50

protrude from the mainstream of the same in

35:52

parallel, the kind of create a canyon between

35:54

them if Google. The same is a cast

35:56

the tally, but I'm. In. Old it's

35:58

on a sauce, missing the reform. It really does.

36:00

It has a lot of dynamic contrast, different

36:02

textures, the ruffles, the hard part of the

36:05

south parts that was exciting and of itself

36:07

but by some miracle it took a have

36:09

fully assess came out and guy went viral

36:11

and was like on a roof like the

36:13

New York Times to Access Hollywood now says

36:15

stores over the countries and Whole Foods nationwide

36:17

is made by a company called Splenic as

36:19

Sf. Oh gee Ally and I agreed to

36:21

take you on with this idea we have

36:24

about the regardless hum of the couldn't find

36:26

a pasta company the wanted.i didn't want to

36:28

start manufacturing past I want a partner. Was

36:30

it is that you're on a podcast rare to

36:32

the dance and and I said i want to

36:34

be the guy that they call him in a

36:36

truck breaks down in front of deliveries. But so

36:38

the problem is most past com is was these

36:41

gigantic multinational conglomerate Sue didn't hear any system work

36:43

with me or they were like teeny tiny regional

36:45

things. I wanted some resume dried pasta and ship

36:47

it to have sprung for listeners. And.

36:49

So part of this com this Fellini they make

36:51

phenomenal pass in upstate New York they're all of

36:53

the country and yet another caskets how the everywhere

36:56

but one thing with habit as as exciting an

36:58

amazing as it was when the same came out

37:00

everyone sent me pictures with the cooking with it

37:02

was is very gratifying special like I I thought

37:04

has been invited to he was houses for dinner

37:06

as they at that rate touching. But.

37:09

Like ninety percent of the photos A

37:11

got were like tasks I would Tomato

37:14

sauce meat sauce that mack and sees

37:16

a few party animals made pesto. I'm.

37:18

Happy that once making self the test the telly

37:20

but like this so many more things it's

37:22

it's just made me realize how limited most Americans

37:25

are. even if they are vague we were other

37:27

options they just kind of stick to the three

37:29

to five. Pasta. Sauces that they know.

37:31

And so I set out to read cookbooks that

37:34

would help people to broaden people's horizons for what

37:36

they can and should we put an impostor. You're.

37:38

On into his podcast. It is my job to

37:40

say this but I can't help but think there

37:42

is like. Something. The Silver

37:44

Jewish. About your way of thinking right where

37:46

you're like the right save doesn't exist. I'm

37:48

gonna make it this food. Is good this

37:50

would have that. Can I like? Put it together

37:52

as a my reading Way too much into to

37:54

be like there's no like secrets House here right?

37:57

Like like there's there's rules of gravity and do

37:59

whatever the ability. The Roka out when yes,

38:01

ago Monday but like. There. Is a

38:03

sense of like place on this and

38:05

and creativity The as I don't know

38:07

current psychologists. Yeah, for sure. I think so.

38:10

I'm in Illinois. I come from a long

38:12

line of lawyers if is Bob was also Zuma.

38:14

I am it create I'm around that it out

38:16

Also very analytical. that sort of like Tom

38:18

mooted, sort of like let's. Let's.

38:20

Look at this thing and rather than just

38:22

taken as a spy dead outlets question as

38:24

turn it around and wounded underneath it was

38:26

lifted up and let's take it apart and

38:28

was analyzed as break it down with component

38:31

parts and was is part of her said

38:33

how they all work together and of weeks

38:35

reconstituted in different way. how does that change

38:37

it So to me I think of as

38:39

being a very sort of. Analytical.

38:41

To an obsessive degrees significant which I

38:43

think is a Jewish personality traits. Everyone.

38:46

Knows me. saw several notable in a is Right or

38:48

what is it was. Break it down with component parts

38:50

are at roughly speaking as ground meat. And

38:53

sauce. Okay, So that maybe

38:55

who are Okay, we'll so. There's. Other

38:57

ground meat dishes i read Xinhua bull in

38:59

Israel's to do a lob like that the

39:02

tylo since appetizer this law but I love

39:04

the spicy ground meets with the lime juice

39:06

and love fish sauce and use around legacy

39:09

bombings as Grammys. Can we make

39:11

a pasta sauce is based on? That's so. It's that

39:13

analytical approach of kind of breaking down of the component

39:15

parts that I think he knows what part of what

39:17

I do. I'm. Grateful for like this this

39:19

the spirit of ingenuity and and and sort

39:21

of like craftiness that you're bringing the curiosity

39:23

and a craftiness that you're bringing to to

39:26

food and to the industrial food enter into

39:28

putting into pasta and deposits I do these

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Italian saves that we are bringing from America

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called quite for Teeny and Vesuvius and a

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set of newsworthy our that us crowds at

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42:28

gotta litter in the moon

42:30

was not a letter in

42:32

the mail. Mail.

42:36

All right let's headed to the mailbox. Here

42:39

is our first letter says really L and

42:41

Joss I'm a long time the sir have

42:43

an orthodox and I'm writing for advice from

42:45

the expert panel that has given so many

42:47

great answers over the years. solicitors and death

42:49

a like. Okay, I know by the know

42:52

what of an oppressor I. Don't

42:54

fuck this one up. I am a Jewish convert

42:57

and I'm raising to Jewish kids and have been

42:59

observing Jewish holidays for about eight years. I

43:01

grew up in a Protestant household. my

43:03

husband is atheists, but enjoys a secular

43:05

celebration of Christmas. I've continue to

43:07

participate in some Christian celebrations, but extended

43:09

family in the spirit of solemn by

43:11

it. So. By it. Which of course

43:14

means peace in the home. I love

43:16

this interpretation to also keep peace with

43:18

our our gentile relatives us. However, as

43:20

the years have passed, I've had less

43:22

interest in celebration of events like Christmas.

43:24

Prior. To make a version, I ran a yearly

43:26

Easter egg hunt for the kids in the extended

43:29

family, but have not arrange one in several years.

43:31

This. Year my extended family ask me at

43:33

the last minute toast Easter dinner and the

43:35

egg hunt in my home. Even

43:38

though no one is pressuring me to attend

43:40

east or search services, I'm hurt them being

43:42

tasked with the responsibilities for celebrating holidays that

43:45

I no longer observe. In. Past years

43:47

that seem extended family has an on interested

43:49

in participating in our Passover celebrations at the

43:51

end of the day. They are my family

43:53

but I wish they would more fully accept

43:55

by Jewishness and realize the insensitivity in Ascii

43:57

a jew to coordinate and. Easter celebration.

44:00

What advice my y'all have to help maintain

44:02

harmony but garner greater acceptance or status as

44:04

a Jewish family. Within our extended non

44:07

Jewish clan. This is a

44:09

great question. I'll yell just wants to take

44:11

the first. Of are getting. I

44:13

could jump. First of all, listener love you.

44:16

But you. Know you're not a Jewish convert,

44:18

your your job, and it strikes me

44:20

that you have not one, but two

44:22

separate issues are questions of. The.

44:24

First question is a question of what to

44:26

do. With. Living in in

44:29

a world where which may include

44:31

family members but also. Friends.

44:33

Colleagues and other significant others who may

44:35

not be Jewish. I. Have an

44:37

amazing story I'd like to share. This one

44:39

is about one of the most famous American

44:41

Orthodox Rabbis of the twentieth Century. When he

44:43

was a child. He was sent to

44:45

public school. And then one

44:47

day in December he came home and

44:50

announced that he's gonna be cast in

44:52

the schools in production of the Christmas

44:54

Play of Those Christmas Pageant of the

44:57

Nativity Scene et cetera. And

44:59

the very next morning his teacher

45:01

gets a call from. His. Mother.

45:04

And. A teacher as soon as he hears the

45:06

mothers voices of Mister So and So I'm very

45:08

sorry. I. Was me to call

45:10

you. You're. Probably so offended that we

45:12

as your boy to be in the nativity

45:14

scene. We. Know that you're Jewish and

45:17

your observant and you're probably so heard by

45:19

the fact that he's gotta be in a

45:21

Christmas place. The mother like know

45:23

nothing like that. I'm just calling to say.

45:26

Really? Just one of the

45:28

shepherds. like. Not a big a

45:30

role for my boy. Emphasis on.

45:32

I think this is exactly. Kind

45:35

of the right spirit, especially for

45:37

a holiday like Easter, which if

45:39

and when divorced from, it's very

45:42

significant Christian markings. It sounds

45:44

like you're being asked to participate in

45:46

involves a giant rabbits are hunting for

45:48

painted eggs which is you know, fine

45:50

I think and everybody's book so out

45:52

of the you should worry about that

45:54

at all. But then it also seems

45:56

to me like you have a second

45:58

problem. And it's. Probably is. You

46:00

can imagine that as an aside, but I

46:02

think it's really the actual. Issue.

46:05

At hand as Aaron Taylor Johnson might say.

46:08

Ah, We did. It is the issue. Of.

46:10

Your family kind of being other know

46:13

dicks about your Jewish life, not accepting

46:15

an invitation to join you for Passover.

46:17

Gotta throw one liner and they're being

46:20

pesos dix. Hills. But.

46:22

Actually that you will carry on with

46:24

your boyfriend us this week and every

46:26

other way they're being pissed off Decks

46:28

By is basically selling a total lack

46:30

of interest. So dear listener, you have

46:33

not one but two problems from Number

46:35

One is should I host an Easter

46:37

Egg hunt in my home? The answers?

46:39

Sure, Why not. It's fun for the

46:41

kids. Everyone be happy. It's a giant

46:43

rabbit. It has no meaning. And we

46:45

do live. With. People who we'd love

46:48

very much and some of them do not have

46:50

the same traditions as us. And. It's no

46:52

big the of. the bigger deal is that

46:54

your family seems to be totally not cool.

46:57

With. Your life and your

46:59

face. And your beliefs. And maybe

47:01

I'm. Over. Of stating this and

47:03

maybe I'm reading way too much into an

47:05

email. Maybe three. Gonna explore

47:08

some things for this first. You: It's

47:10

interesting because. It's not just the

47:12

egg hunt, it's Easter dinner and that to me

47:14

seems like the issue. I don't know you serve

47:16

as an Easter dinner but it's probably not the

47:18

saying that is most often find and Jewish homes

47:21

like I'm picturing like a hamlet. or to me

47:23

I think that's the piece of it. That's the.

47:25

I totally agree with you that you can make

47:27

an Easter egg hunt into sort of on that's

47:29

not super religious and yes that's like a choice.

47:32

I think the distinction is at the dinner which

47:34

is also part of this demand. Sara or letter

47:36

writer has not only the stuff on Easter egg

47:38

hunt but also the dinner and we know as

47:40

as those. Are meaningful dinners even if you just do

47:42

like. No. Arrest a Sunday dinner like the not religious

47:45

in the. Sense you're in a synagogue, but it.

47:47

Is something that feels like tradition and

47:49

culture and I can see why. That.

47:51

Would be sort of like Beyond the Pale,

47:53

you know it. But here here's the power

47:55

move though he I think you're onto something

47:57

really great. the power being a kosher know.

48:00

You say? I would be delighted to

48:02

host the Easter dinner and then everyone

48:04

arise the I have friends, family. We.

48:06

Will serve dinner soon. But. First there's

48:08

a little book that be read. Before.

48:11

Our is there, there's you got

48:13

everybody? I'm an introvert Eight

48:15

I brought my love that me an

48:17

hour or a. First of all, some

48:20

somehow lost banyai. You pesticides. I

48:22

just seen. I do. I do feel for a

48:24

letter, read it because this is a crappy situation

48:26

to be an end to feel like you're either

48:28

not been seen, are not be taken seriously for

48:30

it. We live your life. I just wanna sort

48:32

of acknowledge that no one wants to have family

48:34

drama. I respect how much you're trying to get

48:36

our as you say maintain harmony and it a

48:38

bus the you imagine it's really really hard, violence

48:40

or literary or that we're here for you. We

48:42

should come over for the Easter egg hunt is

48:44

he was. No blessing levels right is

48:46

ultimately about expressing to her family which

48:49

is express to us as I think

48:51

also agree with we all that underneath

48:53

it all I think is this you're

48:55

asking me to do what you will

48:57

not extend to move plus you're asking

48:59

the ones you to arrange your family's

49:01

eg. I'm really like that's what you

49:03

don't know Ours is this a little

49:05

rude. If you're going to add

49:08

of for this letter writer send us a note.

49:10

unorthodox. It's have an Egg That Thomas you've been

49:12

in a similar situation yourself. If you have any

49:14

helpful advice that dealing with this or about organizing

49:16

Easter egg. Hunt were all ears for all bunny

49:18

ears as they say. Little

49:36

Own as an author or. Publisher: And host

49:38

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49:40

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49:42

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49:45

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49:53

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49:57

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50:00

in this post pandemic world because we

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were. Talking. To You when you're

50:04

you're Quarantine anthology came out Mom's don't Have

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Time To Read Books and. Use all

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lot since then suisse or catch

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50:13

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carries books based on emotion and interest

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rather than by shown us and we

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have tons of other events. We started

50:33

a line of retreats where we have

50:36

reading retreats and bring meters. On

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fun adventures for the weekends and in

50:40

terms of my writing and after at

50:42

the to anthologies with the mumps or

50:44

have time to seem it's I had

50:46

a children's that called Prince Charming come

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Zebra Israel so we started using it. The L

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some article on a cyclist that's of sunny. It's

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tongue in cheek right? I mean this is this

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to be fun. Authors or Rock

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funny. Is is still fun as become

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all consuming. Are you still enjoy everything you

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and be able to say that's good to be able to say. No,

51:42

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people are like oh my gosh had

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all and love reading more than anything

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I'd love getting advance copies and poking

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into books by authors I love and

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discovering new authors and connecting p. I'm

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connecting authors to each other and others to

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people and readers and I love the whole

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community and I'm really happy and really happy.

52:06

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deftly challenging but I love what I'm doing.

52:11

I'm in the rights. that for me to

52:13

tell us about Blank Blank is about a

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six days in L. A Pepper is a

52:19

former best selling author who can't come up

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had an idea, but she ends up not

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out in the book itself. and at. Dinner

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one night her son suggest.

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will sell vs your own opinions of

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themselves. That is the crux except most

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of it is really just about how

52:59

one woman deals with many stresses in

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her life career. Especially in our

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to see career. Her kids, her best

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friends, her mom, her difficult marriage and

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how this one decision turns everything upside

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the next chapter. I'm lucky enough to

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have been a guest on your So

53:17

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guess on the So So. It's like

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you really do this amazing job of

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creating community and it's all people who

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read and write them and are a

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time stymied by. With still seems

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like an industry that's very hard to break

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into and to achieve success in, I'm delighted.

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You're in the face fucker. I love it.

53:40

but yes I I once you're on the

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podcast. are you do an Avenger Years? Your

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part of it forever? It's like the life's

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lifetime membership card and I love connecting people

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like oh I really need like between Union

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of Everyone is on the podcast and that

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would people come Would I be selling their

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a hundred things. Just are you saying the

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basic I am So yes, community and new

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ideas for bringing people together, new ideas for

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selling books and tell readers sign stories that

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can really improve their lives. This is of

54:12

utmost importance or me. It is interesting moments

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in the pelvis and space for to do

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for Jewish writers who have found themselves on

54:19

the receiving end of anti Semitic trolling. In

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many ways, a lot of it is through

54:23

sites like Good Reads and a lot of

54:26

it shows that. The. Beautiful community oriented

54:28

side of the book loving world

54:30

is also sort of being turned

54:32

against identify average was authors especially

54:34

those who are taking on to

54:36

a subjects in a really twisted

54:38

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54:41

as a Jewish were a Jewish

54:43

author I have watched with horror

54:45

since the for a long time

54:47

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54:49

October seventh I was part of

54:51

a group of women authors who

54:53

started Artists Against Anti Semitism. We

54:55

did a big fundraiser oxen online.

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that he was also a d Unite

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the community of is it away to

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give people a groups to talk to,

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it to be a part of and

55:09

to see like they could do anything

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something to help when we all felt

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so helpless that group has been. Really?

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there's a Instagram sir group chat

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of the founding members of that

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group and. Everyday. People can

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say oh my gosh, this happened

55:27

to my sonorous. did you see

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this in the paper or can

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you believe this happens And there's

55:33

a lot of support within that.

55:35

So because of that in addition

55:37

to my just reading papers and

55:39

living my life, I get to

55:41

see experiences that happened to other

55:43

people. like someone's daughter having something

55:45

mean said to her because she

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were Jewish, started an airplane or

55:49

things like that. In terms of

55:51

my own author leave experiences When

55:53

my novel. Blank when up on. Good reads.

55:55

One. Troll put a

55:58

negative one star reviews. Then

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it free Palestine Mean it? Like remember

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what? The thing next to it was, but it was.

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56:07

racially motivated comments. I ended up writing

56:09

an essay about it. Tell a good

56:11

read. So thanks May that are his

56:14

ratings because it felt so unfair to

56:16

me and not okay and I really

56:18

take issue and things don't feel fair

56:20

in whatever contexts. So I wrote an

56:22

essay about it and reported it to

56:24

Good Reads. I had a lot of

56:27

other people help me report and help

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offset the negativity and that Reads actually

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took it down. Which. I felt

56:33

was a major major victory. Mind

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you my email attacked at the same time so

56:37

I'd I think they're linked other friend said no

56:40

it's just random chance so who knows but enough

56:42

milk Adidas and past. This is more than just

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a bad reviews some and things like me about

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you to clean a little bit about how platform

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57:00

That way other readers get to

57:03

know what books similar loving. There's

57:05

it. an average score that is

57:07

attached and that score is incredibly

57:09

important. In many ways that good

57:11

read score as attached to your

57:13

Amazon Bucks profile. It is used

57:16

for editorial purposes a written for

57:18

a bazillion places are doing round

57:20

up some things like that in

57:22

one place. Won't. Even look

57:24

at look for their magazine unless they're over

57:26

a for no Good Reads farm. So it

57:29

does have. A lot of the

57:31

facts it affects the algorithm as some

57:33

things work and what books get put

57:35

in front of you. So if somebody

57:38

tanks your score you actually on purpose.

57:40

It can lead to a lesser likelihood

57:43

of success like it actually has the

57:45

material impacts on how successful your book

57:47

as how far and wide against should

57:49

be at all other things and I

57:51

think people know that and that gives

57:54

some people a sense of power that

57:56

they can do this saying it without

57:58

getting fired and it's. In that it

58:00

sort of in the bounds of okay because

58:02

that said, that is gonna going to prison

58:04

for tanking. Could read scoring know that it

58:07

is a way that people assert their own

58:09

well. So I mean, I could go into

58:11

why people might do this, but. It

58:13

is away also for people to target

58:15

certain groups where it's not particularly about

58:17

the back it's about. Oh okay well

58:20

I know that authors jewish to she

58:22

posted over there and that means I

58:24

should go and I don't want any

58:26

Jewish authors to succeed so I'd better.

58:28

Hurt. Her chances and that's just me

58:30

personally. Obviously as you alone else,

58:33

things like book tours have been

58:35

cancelled Sit. There have been security

58:37

threats said cancel entire tours in

58:39

music concerts left lots of things

58:41

these days, which is. Terrible.

58:43

And I've heard to through other

58:45

reported article is that I can't

58:48

speak first hand that book contracts

58:50

are harder to come by in

58:52

the Uk right now for Jewish

58:54

authors. so it's is every day.

58:56

There's something new about ways that's.

58:59

Jewish people are being and you know,

59:01

unfairly punished in this world. which is

59:03

so ironic given that we are the

59:05

people of the book and obsessed with

59:07

literature and have been contributors to this

59:09

fields. Huge contributors to the seal, the

59:11

literature and or letters and all of

59:13

that forever. So that's where we're. We're

59:16

going to be talking to break down and

59:18

is wonderful actor With the new book coming

59:20

out who does yes and events a book

59:22

soup cancelled because of or security threats most

59:24

A would I I we're just sister way

59:27

to weaponize Fear Probably there was no thread

59:29

but we the threads than a suddenly and

59:31

a book stores in a weird position and

59:33

has to figure out whether or not a

59:35

can even carry on. Such a way of

59:38

silencing people say the same way that the

59:40

good reads a rating system is been weaponized

59:42

to sort of silence people to affect them

59:44

more than they're worth. Awful. It's awful

59:46

so high you stay positive like

59:48

amidst all of this your other

59:50

you're promoting not only got about

59:53

but all these other authors had

59:55

he sort of keep keep telling.

59:57

So the first month or so

59:59

after us. were seven. No, actually all

1:00:01

the way through early December, it

1:00:03

was affecting my own personal life

1:00:05

so profoundly in my

1:00:08

distress and distraction.

1:00:10

And I made a choice in early December

1:00:12

that like I had to put it aside,

1:00:14

not aside that I wasn't thinking about it,

1:00:17

but I had to just go on functioning

1:00:20

and doing my work and trying

1:00:22

to bring joy and spread bookish love

1:00:24

and whatever all the happy feely things.

1:00:27

And that if I let it consume me

1:00:30

so much, you know, it's

1:00:32

like they were winning again, right? All

1:00:34

of us being sidelined by grief and

1:00:36

shock and all of it. So

1:00:38

I have really tried intentionally,

1:00:40

not of course to

1:00:43

forget because I focus on it a

1:00:45

lot, but to put it aside enough

1:00:47

that I can be out there doing

1:00:50

the good work and representing

1:00:52

the Jewish values of giving back

1:00:54

and all of it. That's

1:00:56

why I'm doing what I'm doing. I want

1:00:59

to continue doing all of this. I want

1:01:01

to help. So how

1:01:03

do I keep doing it? I'm doing

1:01:05

it because I'm really mission driven. I

1:01:07

feel what I'm doing is more important

1:01:09

now than ever. And while it's important

1:01:13

and good to not lose

1:01:15

sight of what's going on and post about that

1:01:17

too, I think people need escape.

1:01:19

People need just to remember that there

1:01:21

are good people in the world and

1:01:23

that the Jewish community is strong and

1:01:25

we're going to be okay. And we,

1:01:27

this has happened to us a bazillion

1:01:29

times throughout history and we are

1:01:31

resilient and we're going to keep going and we're going to

1:01:34

keep writing and going on our book tours and doing whatever

1:01:36

we have to do despite all

1:01:38

odds because that is who we are.

1:01:40

That's beautiful. And that's inspiring. Who is

1:01:42

inspiring you these days? You are

1:01:45

Stephanie. That's honestly the answer. Thank you. I teed

1:01:47

it up. No, but honestly, people who are doing

1:01:56

the work, going there, talking about the

1:01:59

hard work, The Jags getting

1:02:01

our faith and values and

1:02:03

community front and center and

1:02:05

inspired by the other. Board.

1:02:08

Members of this Artist Against

1:02:10

Anti Semitism group who are

1:02:12

so tirelessly trying to think

1:02:14

of new ways to help.

1:02:17

And. I'm inspired by

1:02:19

the collectives. Resilience,

1:02:21

Of so many People series, so much

1:02:23

stuff assists it's and at La this

1:02:25

is our legacy. This is also a

1:02:27

reminder of of our strength, so I

1:02:29

know that's a vague answer. But and

1:02:31

I mean that there's so many examples

1:02:33

all the time as people. Rebounding.

1:02:36

And helping and doing good and.

1:02:39

And. Inspired by. Friends.

1:02:41

Who after I've ever sevens? I

1:02:44

didn't even consider like really close friends who were

1:02:46

emailing me and being like I would hide you.

1:02:48

I want you to know I will do anything

1:02:50

for you and like it's just. Wonderful!

1:02:52

And. What are you reading of? How

1:02:54

much time do you find to read?

1:02:57

Even given the slices, letters and books

1:02:59

to find the have much time to

1:03:01

read as enjoyed. Reading is how I

1:03:03

get through beaten. It's. An essential ingredient.

1:03:05

Like I couldn't do all the other stuff

1:03:08

without it. Not because my career happens to

1:03:10

be in bucks By whatever it was, That

1:03:12

is how I personally decompress. It's how I

1:03:14

mean is. My. Anxiety. It's

1:03:16

how I. It's just what

1:03:19

I need to sit there sell ice.

1:03:21

I take that medicine offense. I just

1:03:23

finished reading the Manicurist Daughter which came

1:03:25

out today by Susan View. It's March

1:03:27

Twelfth. As are saying this, it's my

1:03:30

April Book Club take is it is

1:03:32

the club and it's about. A.

1:03:34

vietnamese american women whose parents worked in

1:03:36

it and nail salons and the aftermath

1:03:38

of her the death of her mother

1:03:41

which her family refused to talk about

1:03:43

and saw that legacy has affected the

1:03:45

rest of her life spans her identity

1:03:47

and it's really get so that's it

1:03:49

i've just told listeners the best way

1:03:51

for them to follow along with you

1:03:54

with the bee media with used to

1:03:56

be verse book tour everything yes they

1:03:58

can follow me on instagram at Zibi

1:04:00

Owens. Go to zibiowens.com for

1:04:02

the tour schedule and how

1:04:04

to buy a fun tour

1:04:07

t-shirt and all of

1:04:09

the fun collabs we're doing. Also

1:04:11

for Zibi Media, you can sign

1:04:13

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1:04:15

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1:04:17

newsletters and find out great

1:04:19

stuff that's coming next. Zibi, thank you for

1:04:21

everything that you're doing, both making this so

1:04:23

much fun and then also doing the serious

1:04:26

work of being publicly Jewish in what we

1:04:28

all know is a difficult space. So we're

1:04:30

just so grateful to you and thank you for

1:04:32

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1:06:47

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1:06:49

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1:06:52

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1:06:54

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1:06:56

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1:06:58

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1:07:01

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1:07:04

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1:07:06

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1:07:08

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1:07:10

he spoke out for Israel online.

1:07:12

You'll hear in our interview that

1:07:14

he's only become even more

1:07:16

loud and proud as a

1:07:19

result. Brett

1:07:24

Gelman, welcome to Unorthodox. Thank

1:07:27

you so much. It's so great to be here. Shalom.

1:07:30

Shalom. You're in this interesting

1:07:33

category of like well-known person who

1:07:35

since October 7th has really become

1:07:37

a leading Jewish voice. You've gone from basically being like the

1:07:40

guy from Stranger Things to this really, really

1:07:43

proud Jew online. To the Zionist king of

1:07:45

Hollywood? Yes, exactly. Sorry, Josh. Sorry, Josh. One

1:07:48

of the kings. You don't mind? You don't

1:07:51

mind? I'm happy to serve as prince.

1:07:53

So like what is that? We

1:08:00

talked to Josh a lot about this. We're like, when did

1:08:02

you decide to be Jewish on Twitter? How

1:08:04

did this happen for you where you're like, everyone

1:08:06

likes me, I do all these things creatively, I'm

1:08:09

also a big Jew. I didn't mean

1:08:11

to get right to know it. It's always been a

1:08:13

steady... It's funny. It's like

1:08:15

as the world slowly became

1:08:17

more and more anti-Semitic over

1:08:19

the last 10 to 20

1:08:21

years, I became more and

1:08:23

more Zionistic, more and more

1:08:26

Jewish. Not that I

1:08:28

was ever an anti-Zionist or not a support

1:08:30

of Israel, but I definitely was falling into

1:08:33

the whole realm

1:08:35

of, oh, I'm white

1:08:38

and I benefit from white privilege

1:08:40

and, oh, Israel oppresses

1:08:42

the Palestinian people in the same

1:08:45

way that the United States oppresses

1:08:47

the black community and stuff like

1:08:49

that. So there was

1:08:51

those notions. And then I met

1:08:53

my fiancee, who is an Israeli

1:08:55

American, and that was

1:08:57

six years ago. And she really

1:08:59

woke me up to my self-hatred,

1:09:02

because that's what it is. And so that

1:09:04

made me really start to see things clearly

1:09:06

start to become educated of what

1:09:08

was really going on over there. And also see

1:09:10

a lot more clearly what was going on

1:09:12

over here. It just really wasn't a

1:09:15

choice once the seventh happened. I had

1:09:17

already been speaking out a bit, but

1:09:19

I've always spoken out for causes.

1:09:22

How could I not speak out for

1:09:24

our people? And I didn't

1:09:26

do it blindly. I knew what was potentially

1:09:28

going to happen. I knew what the blowback

1:09:31

was going to probably

1:09:33

be. However, you still

1:09:36

experience that in real time.

1:09:38

You still experience the trauma

1:09:41

of the backlash to

1:09:43

the same degree, even though you expect

1:09:45

it. You're also now promoting your new

1:09:47

book, The Terrifying Realm of the Possible. And

1:09:49

you're in the strange position of seeing

1:09:52

this play out on your book tour, right? Yeah.

1:09:54

Yeah. I mean, it's A

1:09:56

very Jewish book. It is. It's not.... About

1:10:00

the you the conflict in all

1:10:02

or anything having to do with

1:10:04

his or but it's a very

1:10:06

Jewish. But I'm so influenced by

1:10:08

Jewish authors and Jewish comedic authors

1:10:10

and I wanted to put that

1:10:12

sort of culture out there again.

1:10:14

it's so much a part of

1:10:16

me and so much of what

1:10:18

is influenced me and I wanted

1:10:20

people to. Be. Able to

1:10:23

read that type of voice again.

1:10:25

You know, make that voice cool

1:10:27

again. There is a tie to

1:10:29

it and people trying to cancel

1:10:31

my appearances, and there is a

1:10:33

connection to the Jewishness of the

1:10:35

book. But also, I mean, obviously

1:10:37

they're doing it because or they

1:10:39

claim they're doing it because of

1:10:41

my. My. Stance because they

1:10:43

claim to know what my stances

1:10:46

amidst a Jew haters A sock.

1:10:48

How do you feel about places

1:10:50

that are canceling like book? Super

1:10:53

Los Angeles A bookstore that I've

1:10:55

enjoyed and visited many times. They

1:10:57

claim they're not censoring you. They

1:11:00

canceled your event there for security

1:11:02

concerns. Dubai that? ah not really.

1:11:04

not the end of the day.

1:11:07

I want people to be safe.

1:11:09

I want to be safe. I

1:11:11

am going. To pay for security

1:11:14

when I mom making public appearances.

1:11:16

I think that that's essential right

1:11:18

now. I get death threats all

1:11:20

the time so I take precautions.

1:11:22

I'd take the precautions of the

1:11:24

people who work at the store

1:11:27

and.my audience. So. That's all

1:11:29

clear and then you know, even

1:11:31

if there is a threat which

1:11:33

it's very unlikely that some is

1:11:35

going to combine, do something violent,

1:11:37

It seems to me more that

1:11:39

they don't wanna have this reputation

1:11:41

because the people buying their books

1:11:43

are people who are anti semitic

1:11:45

without knowing. And you know, hiding

1:11:47

behind social justice when they have

1:11:50

no idea when a lack of

1:11:52

justice saw their exhibiting. They're so

1:11:54

yeah, I know, I don't buy

1:11:56

it at all. I I especially.

1:11:58

with something like books. Because

1:12:00

we press like whoa, provide security and

1:12:02

they still didn't wanna do that. And

1:12:05

then you know you see where that

1:12:07

stores located and then people like you

1:12:09

and die we're going to that stores.

1:12:12

That means that if you're like us

1:12:14

but you're not a zionist then you're

1:12:16

gonna have. You're not gonna like the

1:12:18

fact that I'm showing up there so

1:12:21

they may be don't want to have

1:12:23

that reputation is my guess but I

1:12:25

don't know. You know thats I have

1:12:27

no proof of that. That. Logic is

1:12:30

just extra depressing from a bookstore. When

1:12:32

you're like it's bucks, they're not scary,

1:12:34

they know us new ideas like it

1:12:37

to me seems to defy though. the

1:12:39

logic of fled this creative enterprise is

1:12:41

on s yeah well you know I'm

1:12:43

a genocidal warmongering. You seem like yes,

1:12:46

Yes, yes, Has spread

1:12:48

out at all in your realize. Your

1:12:50

friends? Yeah yeah absolutely. I have

1:12:52

some friends who have shown me

1:12:54

know so poor. I

1:12:57

have friends who have been

1:12:59

verbally abusive to me and

1:13:01

it also just sucks to

1:13:04

see people I know signing

1:13:06

ceasefire petitions which is just

1:13:08

such a destructive Pr move.

1:13:11

You. Know when they have no

1:13:14

idea what's going on Earth? They

1:13:16

do. They're choosing to ignore it

1:13:18

and are completely erasing Jewish pain,

1:13:20

just calling for a cease fire

1:13:23

without any mention of the return

1:13:25

of the Hostages, for instance. Yeah,

1:13:27

our the surrender of Hamas. It's

1:13:30

also just a complete disregard for

1:13:32

what they claim to be advocating

1:13:34

for, which is Palestinian humanization and

1:13:37

self determination because Hamas is a

1:13:39

completely oppressive entity towards their own

1:13:41

people. The. Designed this whole

1:13:43

situation so their own people would

1:13:46

die. so people would react in

1:13:48

the way that they're reacting. Obviously,

1:13:50

I mean, how many people have

1:13:53

said that? So yeah, it's just

1:13:55

so it's not really considering anyone

1:13:57

except their own narcissistic don't lose.

1:14:00

The Law. View. Of themselves

1:14:02

as some sort of voice

1:14:04

of social justice. Bottom.

1:14:07

So. Yeah, no. I mean

1:14:09

like it's been really disappointing. You.

1:14:11

Know you you see like right?

1:14:14

We watch the oscars, josh him

1:14:16

in, you see or that applause

1:14:18

and that is crazy. You're sitting

1:14:20

room wondering and maybe not wondering.

1:14:22

Maybe you know how many people

1:14:24

the I know just clapped. To.

1:14:26

That speech just applauded that speech.

1:14:28

and that's ah. That's really disappointing.

1:14:30

makes you feel really alone. Said.

1:14:33

There weren't weren't not a lot of yellow ribbons

1:14:35

on the red carpet. Know there were none. There.

1:14:37

Were none and and I think that

1:14:40

people should have spoken out against not

1:14:42

only Glazers speeds but also the wearing

1:14:44

of the red pins which again is

1:14:46

a completely slanted view of the whole

1:14:49

situation. And I don't think they know

1:14:51

this, but that's anti semitic so what

1:14:53

to do? And and this is the

1:14:55

question. probably would you do? you're in this

1:14:57

industry rate is still wanna work? You wanna

1:15:00

do the thing you love to do. You

1:15:02

recognize a lot of city miss out there.

1:15:04

What is the answer? For. You

1:15:06

going forward by me I think there's

1:15:08

a lot of people who actually see

1:15:10

the see it the way we do.

1:15:12

I encounter quite a few people but

1:15:14

you navigate As I mean like show

1:15:17

business is is lonely at times and

1:15:19

so he try to go with the

1:15:21

people who stand with you. Luckily like

1:15:23

my collaborators are. Supportive.

1:15:25

People. I'm working with them and my wraps

1:15:27

are all supported so you've never got. Nobody

1:15:30

has ever said anything like a could detect

1:15:32

it down and social media nobody is asked

1:15:34

you to pull backer. no no no not

1:15:36

at all. Does that only happens? Cm yeah

1:15:38

I mean and about I've found the same

1:15:41

thing I've been. I've had my moments in

1:15:43

the barrel with for people are mad at

1:15:45

me on both sides and wondered whether an

1:15:47

employer might say like could just stop with

1:15:49

the post explain to my delight I've not.

1:15:51

I've found that a nobody's ever ask me.

1:15:54

I think a lot more people agree. With

1:15:56

us than we think. The. problem is

1:15:58

is that they're not speaking out there not

1:16:00

counteracting what's being said. I mean, you know,

1:16:02

I'm really sick of like these

1:16:04

silent Jews who come to

1:16:06

me and thank me. Yes. And

1:16:09

I'm like, don't thank me. I'm not your fucking human shield. Say

1:16:12

something. And because you bear the

1:16:14

burden of it. That's I think what I was getting

1:16:16

at. If you have these like studio execs who I'm

1:16:19

sure feel the same way you feel, don't

1:16:21

take a stand. Part of it is like people

1:16:23

want to work within the system. Like I think everyone has their

1:16:25

reasons, but to me it is frustrating to

1:16:27

see a lot of people say thank you for doing this.

1:16:29

I can never do this. I can never post this. I

1:16:31

can never say that. Yeah. And you have

1:16:34

an audience. Everyone can do something, right? No, I like

1:16:36

I'm sick of it. You know, I

1:16:38

resent it personally. And I

1:16:40

also think that that mode of assimilation

1:16:42

and mode of

1:16:44

self-preservation is why we're in

1:16:46

the fucking place that we're in right now.

1:16:49

Interesting. October 7th didn't just,

1:16:51

it wasn't the big bang. It was an

1:16:53

explosion from a gas leak that

1:16:55

was steadily seeping in to

1:16:57

American culture. And to European culture,

1:16:59

this was all set up. It

1:17:02

almost feels like it all led

1:17:04

to this and this

1:17:06

reaction. And we were not speaking

1:17:08

out. People were not speaking out

1:17:11

enough. The Jewish people

1:17:13

should have never allowed ourselves to

1:17:15

lose our marginalization status, should have

1:17:17

never allowed ourselves to

1:17:20

be considered white. You

1:17:22

know? Because what does

1:17:25

that mean? You know, to be considered the

1:17:27

white oppressor. These labels and things like that.

1:17:29

Whereas if, you know, I've said this so

1:17:31

many times, but ask a white supremacist if

1:17:33

I'm white. You know? We're

1:17:36

not. You know, we are an oppressed group.

1:17:39

And yes, the way in

1:17:41

which we're oppressed is not the same way in which

1:17:43

another group is oppressed. But like,

1:17:46

it's not a competition. It's

1:17:48

a fact. We are an oppressed people. So

1:17:51

we should never have been giving in to

1:17:53

this, you know, we felt the

1:17:55

need to assimilate to whether it was out of

1:17:57

guilt, whether it was out of greed. Whether

1:18:00

it was out of just like, oh, I don't want to

1:18:02

deal with it. It's like you got to deal with it.

1:18:05

And so now we really have to deal with it.

1:18:08

And people are still playing by the same, same

1:18:11

handbook and it clearly doesn't work.

1:18:14

And in a funny way, you, you're representative of

1:18:16

the big group of people, I include myself who

1:18:18

sort of had the right politics, right? Who were

1:18:20

like, I support all of

1:18:22

these things. I've supported all these other causes. Of

1:18:24

course we see ourselves as being on the right

1:18:26

side of things. And then to

1:18:29

realize that we're not included, there's no reciprocity. We

1:18:31

realize that when it comes to Israel, when it

1:18:33

comes to Jews, things are a little different. And

1:18:35

I think that what we've been seeing, you know,

1:18:37

from our listeners and from our guests even is

1:18:40

that dealing with that is very hard for people

1:18:42

who are like, what do you mean? I was out there

1:18:44

with you and now I'm

1:18:47

the bad guy, basically for being Jewish. Yeah.

1:18:49

I think it's a lot of people coming to terms

1:18:51

with, a lot of Jews coming to terms with the

1:18:53

fact that they just hate us. We're

1:18:56

just hated by everybody. Anti-Semitism

1:18:58

is baked into the fabric

1:19:00

of society. And then

1:19:03

in this moment, it's requiring a lot of

1:19:05

non-Jews to recognize that in themselves in the

1:19:07

way that I had to recognize all of

1:19:10

my unconscious biases, you know,

1:19:12

which is what everybody has. I mean, everybody

1:19:14

has these things. I think

1:19:16

it's also like a massive, very active

1:19:18

denial that they have this inside of

1:19:20

them, that they have anti-Semitism in them

1:19:22

and it drives them nuts and it

1:19:25

makes them compensate for it by becoming

1:19:27

even more anti-Semitic. Unlike

1:19:31

book soup, we want to give you a

1:19:33

platform to talk about your book. How

1:19:36

long have you been working on it? Like three

1:19:38

years, but like probably like

1:19:40

six months of actual writing. You

1:19:44

know, it's like you procrastinate and then, you

1:19:47

know, other jobs come up. I just wonder,

1:19:49

I'm like, oh, was it procrastination or was

1:19:51

it percolation? Was it

1:19:53

baking in my subconscious so that I

1:19:55

could just Vomit it out once.

1:19:58

I Finally sat down at the computer? We'd

1:20:00

been a writer yeah yeah, I have and I

1:20:02

I wanted to be an author to and then

1:20:04

I want to do something like this. Didn't want

1:20:06

to be an actor, writing a book, a one

1:20:08

to be and author. Writing. A

1:20:10

Book and I was really lucky that my

1:20:13

editors to Roberts. Reached. Out to

1:20:15

me one day and he likes. I think

1:20:17

you'd write a great book a short stories.

1:20:19

I was like holy shit to slip some

1:20:21

this him from his husband and. You've. Created quite

1:20:23

a world with indistinctly tell us about

1:20:25

than the characters who we me along

1:20:27

the way. To send they

1:20:29

are actors. They are quite there,

1:20:32

yet there are. There

1:20:35

quite a quite loud right? Colorful know

1:20:37

it's ah, it's so it's a child.

1:20:39

Him, Abraham and Stir damn. A.

1:20:41

Teenager named Mendel Freudenberger an

1:20:43

adult Them: Jackie Cohen an

1:20:46

older woman named Iris below.

1:20:48

And. A person in the

1:20:50

afterlife named Z. And.

1:20:53

Each character has about like

1:20:55

fives. Short stories are pieces

1:20:57

about them. And.

1:21:00

They're all bullets of Jewish

1:21:02

neurosis. Choose exile, It. it's

1:21:04

The Book is a total

1:21:06

purge. Of. My self hatred. Absolutely.

1:21:08

And to do, get all out, it's all.

1:21:11

And no, No, absolutely no. The never would

1:21:13

have known. Of course I'm a Jew. it's

1:21:15

an ongoing or as a yes I yes,

1:21:17

but it enough feels good said. get it

1:21:20

out for a day. But I also think

1:21:22

there's a beauty to that neurosis and that

1:21:24

anxiety that I wanted to, you know, shine

1:21:26

the light on and laugh at to. And

1:21:29

you call these nearly true. Stories He

1:21:31

others autobiographical elements in each character

1:21:33

and then you know I feel

1:21:36

like it's characters somewhat of an

1:21:38

extension of me. I call them

1:21:40

nightmares, you know? Who.

1:21:43

I am. I love it! It's great stuff

1:21:45

at we need a new Philip Roth said

1:21:47

make you. That's. Really sets really

1:21:50

nice for you to say yes.

1:21:52

Oh he's definitely one of my

1:21:54

my biggest influences. I mean I

1:21:56

also am really influenced by so

1:21:58

many people, but pages sale! We

1:22:00

separate artist from our but are

1:22:02

you know I mean without feathers.

1:22:04

And in all Woody Allen's early

1:22:06

prose is like a huge I

1:22:08

was weaned on all that area.

1:22:10

yeah like the moment who I

1:22:12

read without feathers it broke my

1:22:14

brain so I wanted to are

1:22:16

you know, just bring things like

1:22:18

that back. I mean you know

1:22:20

I eat cheaply curing this this

1:22:22

condescension to like bagel lox. Jews

1:22:24

are certain type of Seinfeld the

1:22:26

in culture and I'm like I

1:22:28

think that that is absolute. Jewish

1:22:30

excellence? Someone to put that my own

1:22:33

version of that into this book. Explain

1:22:35

that more of your own version of just

1:22:37

excellence. I just think that

1:22:39

there's a beauty to how

1:22:42

American Jews specifically have taken

1:22:44

deep neurosis and turn that

1:22:46

into humor and art. And

1:22:48

are able to relate to all

1:22:50

of humanity. Through. That you know,

1:22:53

with people either enjoying it by being

1:22:55

a voyeur or relating to aspects of

1:22:57

or relating to are all of it.

1:23:00

But I think we're all plagued with

1:23:02

a lot of. Fears.

1:23:04

About the big questions and fumbling through

1:23:06

the asking of them and I think

1:23:08

that's a very Jewish thing. sad swear

1:23:10

that than which I am, I love

1:23:13

that idea and I think that's brilliant

1:23:15

Bahamas for that was at all these

1:23:17

people. We now see who are like ah

1:23:19

I'm i'm not real it's and U S they're

1:23:21

fine with the like you to see ness the

1:23:23

don't have the real Jewish balls basically to stand

1:23:25

up in this moment are these people who now

1:23:28

in this moment or like are nuts U S

1:23:30

L Israel's makes me uncomfortable like they really have

1:23:32

distanced themselves from the actual Jewishness of at all.

1:23:35

Yeah. Maybe they keep the

1:23:37

bagels? I mean they can. You

1:23:39

know they can fuck off. I

1:23:41

assist assist the sake of us.

1:23:44

Are. Yeah I hey sorry sorry

1:23:46

that you're a coward. And.

1:23:49

That you hate yourself. Yeah.

1:23:51

i've i hope not that i think

1:23:53

my book will do this but it

1:23:55

would be great for people to read

1:23:57

my book in the experience reefs other

1:24:01

Jewish art and revamp

1:24:03

their own Jewish

1:24:05

pride and be willing to

1:24:07

speak out. I mean, yeah, I just don't know what

1:24:10

you think is going to happen. What

1:24:13

you're gaining by not speaking out, they

1:24:15

hate you to. It doesn't matter. It's

1:24:18

a cliche thing to say, but it

1:24:20

doesn't matter if you make a speech

1:24:23

at the Oscars comparing

1:24:25

Israel to Nazi Germany.

1:24:27

You're still hated. That

1:24:31

doesn't take the Jew off of you. So

1:24:33

you should be proud of it and not

1:24:35

be ashamed of these really important aspects of

1:24:37

our culture and our history.

1:24:39

Well said. Thank you. Yeah,

1:24:41

I want the Jewish pride boot camp. What can we learn from

1:24:44

you? Where

1:24:46

to start? But inspire us. I

1:24:48

don't know. Give us the motivational speech. A

1:24:50

lot of pressure. Yeah, seriously. I

1:24:52

mean, you know, revisit Jewish

1:24:55

artists, revisit Jewish thinkers, read

1:24:57

about Jewish history, read about

1:24:59

Israeli history. Really

1:25:02

start to retrain your

1:25:04

mind into thinking that

1:25:07

you are the dominant culture

1:25:09

for yourself. I'm

1:25:11

not saying don't be influenced by other cultures,

1:25:14

but don't devalue your culture

1:25:16

in comparison to another culture.

1:25:19

And see, really see how we

1:25:22

helped build the culture in a

1:25:24

very real way, whether

1:25:27

it was ours or not in

1:25:29

this country. We wrote the Christmas

1:25:31

songs. We produced the

1:25:33

Westerns. But then we also,

1:25:36

where Jews really stood up, I think

1:25:38

is very much in comedy and in

1:25:40

writing. So I mean, listen

1:25:42

to 2000 year old man, go

1:25:45

watch that episode of Seinfeld, watch

1:25:48

Annie Hall. I mean, you know,

1:25:50

really read Philip Roth, read

1:25:52

Saul Bellow. Go and look

1:25:54

at old episodes of Fashion Police

1:25:56

on YouTube with Joan. Yes,

1:26:01

exactly. This is like excellence.

1:26:03

It's so funny. And I think

1:26:05

that there is something about

1:26:07

rebuilding Jewish culture that in

1:26:09

some ways will come

1:26:11

from a heavy influence from Israeli

1:26:13

culture, which there's so many amazing

1:26:15

aspects of Israeli culture that people

1:26:18

should educate themselves on that

1:26:20

I've been steadily educating myself on. And

1:26:23

sort of blending that with this

1:26:25

American Jewish culture, which is show

1:26:28

business, and which is being

1:26:30

kind of an amazing mess. I

1:26:33

think like the Jew is like really like

1:26:35

a great answer to these times. Because

1:26:38

we're not a people that claim

1:26:40

to know the answers. We sort

1:26:42

of beautifully fumble through these things.

1:26:44

We say the wrong thing. We

1:26:47

do the thing that's like not

1:26:49

cool all the time, but that's

1:26:51

cool. Hold that, embrace

1:26:53

that, and be proud of that

1:26:55

rather than like putting it up

1:26:57

against somebody else's gaze. I think

1:26:59

like it's time that we really

1:27:01

adopt the Jewish gaze and

1:27:03

not close ourselves off to other influences. I

1:27:05

think that the influences from

1:27:07

other cultures can help feed that

1:27:09

because that is America and that is

1:27:12

also part of being Jewish too. And we have

1:27:15

to recognize, I mean, I hope we're able to

1:27:17

recognize our alliances too.

1:27:20

This is the great tragedy of like the

1:27:22

rift between the Jewish community

1:27:24

and the black community or the Jewish

1:27:26

community and the queer community. We all

1:27:29

built America together. We all built the

1:27:31

culture. We do really

1:27:33

well when we work together. So

1:27:35

I don't know. That's a

1:27:37

really long answer. But yeah,

1:27:40

finding every ways in which to read. It's amazing.

1:27:42

I want to put like the rocky training montage

1:27:44

under that because that is like, but you're

1:27:46

right. It's like we're outsiders. We do our

1:27:48

thing. We work against culture in a way. We

1:27:50

always have. And that's when we've been most successful. And

1:27:53

I think finding that gutsiness right

1:27:55

now is incredibly important. And you're showing us how

1:27:58

to do it, which I appreciate. beautifully

1:28:00

and comically in a grand tradition of which

1:28:02

we should be proud. Thank you. That means

1:28:04

so much you say in that. Thanks. Yeah,

1:28:07

that's what I strove to do. I tried

1:28:09

to, but I do think

1:28:11

it's a book that a lot of

1:28:13

people can find laughter in, even if

1:28:15

they don't relate culturally to it, you

1:28:18

know, at least as an onlooker, which

1:28:20

is what the Jew has been great

1:28:22

at doing. Yeah, you can laugh with

1:28:24

me as I do this as a

1:28:26

comedic figure. I think that there's

1:28:28

that universal thing to us. Like, it's

1:28:30

amazing. Like, we really are able, and

1:28:32

there's other cultures who obviously

1:28:35

are able to do this too, but

1:28:37

like, we're one of the cultures that

1:28:39

are able to really exist in ourselves,

1:28:41

but then also reach out across the

1:28:44

aisle, as it were, and have other

1:28:46

people enjoy us too. And you feel

1:28:48

the Jewishness, you know? Yeah, go watch

1:28:51

the Marx Brothers. Watch the

1:28:53

Marx Brothers. My dad used to

1:28:55

show Marx Brothers movies on the reel-to-reel in the

1:28:57

basement of our house. Oh my god. I grew

1:28:59

up on that, and the 2000 year old man

1:29:02

that I loved that you name checked as well,

1:29:04

because that is my greatest comic influence of my

1:29:06

life. Yeah, me too. Me too. That is, I

1:29:08

mean, I think that that might be the greatest

1:29:10

piece of comedy ever done is the 2000 year

1:29:13

old man. Agreed. It's true

1:29:18

perfection, and it's, yeah,

1:29:21

I mean, it's perfect. And how can people get

1:29:23

your book? You can get it on wherever you

1:29:26

can find books. I mean, you can go visit

1:29:29

my Instagram page at Brett

1:29:31

Gelman, or my Twitter page,

1:29:33

which I really wish I

1:29:35

didn't have. My TikTok page,

1:29:39

which hopefully will no longer exist soon.

1:29:41

And now you can

1:29:44

find a way to order the

1:29:46

book at the link in my

1:29:48

bio too. But like, yeah, anywhere

1:29:50

you buy books online or in

1:29:52

stores. Ooh, stores. Not Book

1:29:54

Soup. I Mean, they're selling it. Go Buy

1:29:57

it at BookSoup. Yeah, go buy it at

1:29:59

BookSoup. To. Rub

1:30:01

it in their face. Rub it in there.

1:30:03

That's that's I have a right. Not not

1:30:05

the way. cardigans were just sending people there

1:30:08

and mother and love that idea that funds.

1:30:10

Would you sign a copy for one? Of our listeners and

1:30:12

will give away. See them

1:30:14

to do right now but I will put this

1:30:16

in front of it. Guy who's the to it's

1:30:18

the someone we're not we don't know saw a

1:30:21

listener of the great so diocesan scribe all the

1:30:23

jewish as them in there was absolutely zero unidentified

1:30:25

zoo. Series do

1:30:27

thing to do named later.

1:30:32

Brasil Me: this book is Me and this

1:30:34

book is Do. That

1:30:36

assist. Thank you so much for being on a

1:30:39

regular guy so much! This is so amazing! Right

1:30:51

time for some models have layout take

1:30:53

us off my muscles officer the amazing

1:30:55

community of but The end where I

1:30:58

had the pleasure and privilege of spending

1:31:00

my poor him with our dear friends.

1:31:02

A hoover it's to Halperin and they're

1:31:04

amazing children Went to a poor him

1:31:06

celebration at the Brodie's house. Shoutout to

1:31:08

the Brodie's just to be there in

1:31:11

with the Eames, surrounded by these wonderful

1:31:13

hills where the Hanukkah story takes place.

1:31:15

As as feel really grateful.

1:31:18

For. Everything that we've got so. Would.

1:31:20

Improve called some ask for you happy for

1:31:22

him again and again and again. Amazing

1:31:25

and my muscles have this week. Goes to

1:31:27

my grandma Seal because she got a whirl

1:31:29

hole in one for the six. Time was

1:31:31

little and one sees a genius. It's amazing

1:31:34

Sauce of you. Have you ever done that?

1:31:36

Have I ever got? I think I once maybe

1:31:38

got it on the first try but I also

1:31:40

might be making that I gotta once I see

1:31:42

I said also to begin with the same words

1:31:44

which will never be. yet

1:31:46

my grandma definitely doesn't do that but i don't

1:31:48

i don't really go for the whole one but

1:31:51

i'm gobsmacked that anybody has done it six doesn't

1:31:53

it occurred to me this week that the moda

1:31:55

undies a jewish word or that's the first thing

1:31:57

we do in the morning and love that she

1:31:59

was hurdle I always get that in

1:32:01

one. You

1:32:04

always try the same one each time.

1:32:06

I have a mazel tov to Jewish

1:32:08

Democrats, all Jewish Democrats who pushed back

1:32:10

this week against Trump's ridiculous statements that

1:32:12

anyone who is Jewish who votes for

1:32:14

a Democrat is somehow disloyal to Israel

1:32:17

or hates his religion, his or her.

1:32:19

Just garbage. We're self-hating, but not like that.

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