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The CCC? The CCC seats. Michelle
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Smallman, Evan Cohen. Chris Canty back with us tomorrow. Today
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is a big travel day for the NFL Draft. We
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are heading to... You can't turn. I'm looking at
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you. You cannot... She's like a
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robot turning here this morning. I'm like Zoolander. Instead
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of turning left, I can't turn right. I can't turn
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right. You know how Zoolander... I saw Zoolander, but I don't
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remember that specific line. You
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don't? No. He can't turn left. He's
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not an ambi-turner. An ambi-turner? Oh, that makes
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sense, actually. Yeah, he's not an ambi-turner. He can't turn
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left. No, he's not an ambi-turner. He's not an ambi-turner.
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He's not an ambi-turner. He
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can't turn left. No, I'm lost. I
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am absolutely lost. Come on. I've seen
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Zoolander. I'm the person that's not supposed
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to know the movies or the quotes. That's
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true. But you know Zoolander, of all the movies that you
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know. Great film. I'm not saying it wasn't.
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And then he does the lips, right? Yeah.
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Blue Steel. Yeah, Blue Steel. Go
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ahead. Did you hear Blue Steel? Right?
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Okay. That doesn't work on radio,
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I just realized. I didn't say a word during that. That
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was more La-te-gray than Blue Steel. Anyway, okay. Huge
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night last night. NBA playoffs, NHL playoffs, draft night,
1:26
and a travel day for us. And the reason
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I bring up a travel day for us is
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I learned something very interesting today about our producer,
1:33
Nuno. Okay. Nuno is a fascinating
1:35
individual. He is excellent at what he does.
1:37
He's very on top of everything. Yes. And
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I bring this up, half for you, but
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really for Pat Costello, because if Pat, our
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other producer, Lola Gervante, does not know this,
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this is one of the most amazing things I
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have learned about Nuno. Nuno,
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can you give the world right now what
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you do to determine if your carry-on
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is too heavy, the exercise
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you do with your carry-on? The on
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because like myself new don't I can like
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to discuss this morning we cannot figure out
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how to pack with just the one bags.
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It's hard. it's very difficult but New Know
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has a strategy. Go ahead you know, sorry
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I thought my bags and then I do
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this or mimic the list. Test flights can
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I did or over my head into the
2:18
overhead compartment. A military? It's no problem, It's
2:20
good. So. He had originally.
2:22
Ben Stiller has a suitcase.
2:24
He's I have them all that this is getting.
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Requests devices few days before, happy
2:29
to put it over his head
2:32
into the overhead compartments. But they
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don't weigh your carry on bags so it
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the weight of it doesn't matter and you
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have. A flight attendant that
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will assist you as. An
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uprising involves still has ever held every
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time. Oh yes you can always use
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me as you fit our house as
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you can ask for help I t
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cannot is. I. Wanted the two
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things. I want to avoid that and I
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also wanted me to. I avoid lights hidden
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someone with my book bag or whatever. It's
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because I hate that guy right like the
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dust with person who's trying to get situated
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in my it's the swing of things around
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and words your dogs and stuff like no
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no I don't want to be bad guys.
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Smooth into the plane and let's go. I
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think as long as you're not the guy that
3:18
as soon as the plane lands, you imbecile your
3:20
seat belt and try to get off the plane
3:22
even if you're in the back of the plane.
3:25
First year goods every other airplane person as sign
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of okay because that person. Source I just.
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I love the concept of just imagining
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new know at home taking his suitcase
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and bench pressing it up to see
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I can I do this or not
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Do this And there is a pride
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thinks it's I'm not a big believer
3:41
in that's for men than for women
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in terms of gender like. whatever it
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where people like, I don't care what
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gender you are. Yes, there is a
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stereotype about men. Passed a
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list their own suitcases under a
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certain age new knows right about
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that sets ridiculous. I know you're
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right. It is ridiculous. The
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new know on a plane says the
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disease stewardess or Stewart's that's working their
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heads Any Jimmy's the numerous. Slight advantage
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and when I would have called slightest and white. Have
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heard that are provided Senate thank you Identity
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the whole gender set up and then I
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did ask why is horrible I'd rather than
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I do. This is a my maybe as
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a matter of fact this is it. New
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know can nonsense Boatman annual A man to
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not then say based on perception can I
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have some help It is wrong. But.
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He's right. What is your struggling to
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get the bag and the overhead compartment?
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and another person on the plane steps
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up selling. Has even worse. Or
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know every time and worse. Imagine now like
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I'm struggling. Project is about my bag and
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over to farm reminds ever get so from
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his seat and I got your mother or
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yes I'm a little taller, a hobby us
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like. What we're realizing is that you guys
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care way too much about what a random
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group of strangers thinks about the I Think
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the Arise and I write. Not care less
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I'm I'm never going to see this evil again during.
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Thousand Berliner on Terror and my teenage
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for helping me with my side of
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the thing in the overhead sit down
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right Arrows was right. The guy in
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for be thinks of you honestly. You're
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so right path and not only will you never
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see for be against for the is so happy
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to help new know and of and their bag
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and the overhead I don't. Need help and
5:18
harvest.group me a better than I might
5:20
run out on my area is. He didn't
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need help every society get the bags in
5:24
the overhead and let's get this thing plus
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and like let's get off the ground. No
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new knows. running for Mayor of Nothing
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uses trying to please everybody. I'm also
5:33
and this might sound my paternal way
5:35
too far. Left. Whatever will
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I do like. If you're so they would
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survive I need you to. Jimmy light is
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a sign of realize Paid new help me
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out here cause I don't want assume any
5:46
birds and an older son to be like
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or got a like leave me alone you
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know this but some of those social media
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videos were someone tries to help someone in
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those notes I'd oddly to help so like
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many to signal from you be allies and
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your help Here are our help. Whoever If
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you're over a certain age and you're struggling
6:03
I'm a big do Need any help. Got
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here on a airplane see that I'd the
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way you're looking at me so awkward cause
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your neck is like the a body is
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not. You cannot figure out how to work
6:14
the Cc seats you can't do it. it's
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very another I did see that and high
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low. He's so tall that I think this
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chairs is has a certain the fall and
6:23
the arm rests. Dig into that.
6:25
the desk years. I can't have a
6:27
so sure. I will. How are you
6:29
say forty five for half a season?
6:31
Six foot eight, six six the highest
6:33
per pencil between the two of you
6:35
is remarkable. Yeah, our eyes are. we
6:37
are unsportsmanlike. We're going to the drafted
6:39
Detroit. We're excited about it through Green
6:41
as the and bet they do very
6:43
much. We're going to be broadcast live
6:45
Thursday and Friday in Detroit. Last night
6:47
we saw and be absence with Minnesota
6:49
going up to nothing in there series
6:51
over Phoenix Felix his own fourteen all
6:53
time when they're down o' two in
6:55
a series game again of all people
6:57
not. At Mans, Mcdaniels had twenty five points
7:00
forth, but he was last night indeed. tied
7:02
up there series with Malachy with a one,
7:04
twenty five, one or eight victories Pascal's The
7:06
outcome was great with thirty seven points and
7:09
Dallas. Even though Hawaii comes back, last night's
7:11
Dallas ties up the series against the Clippers.
7:13
They went on the road and Allied ninety
7:15
Six, Ninety three. Luca had thirty two. The
7:18
game was tied at seventy three and a
7:20
fourth quarter. sounds good on an eel run
7:22
late night game for wise as a way
7:24
up the tab the leads. And Ninety Three
7:26
Ninety Dallas. And look. Almost turn the ball
7:29
over and an imbalance and when once you
7:31
were getting the ball bounced, they ended up
7:33
being okay. So you've got Minnesota holding court
7:35
and Indiana and Dallas starting their series. What
7:37
do I mean by that? The old Pat
7:39
Riley is I'm a series does not start
7:41
until roads He wins Indiana. Did. Their
7:43
job jonases out there. If you win
7:45
one game, you're happy Dallas. If I
7:47
told hours before the series, choir know,
7:49
why are you going to L A
7:51
Nd split one one. They're. Happy
7:54
That series seems like it's bound for
7:56
seven games, but there's your small. Those
7:58
three games last night. You're.
8:01
Going to pick something out of that buffet. Just
8:04
cigarettes got so what? Do I get about corporate
8:06
What it was sued for July side of the buffer.
8:08
I didn't. Know he wanted to go with one of that
8:10
one specific A So. Any of have any of them up,
8:12
right? So. I think for me. I'm
8:14
looking. The most probably at
8:17
Minnesota. See next Friends for a couple
8:19
reasons. the fact that see Next is
8:21
now and an ode to Deficit is
8:23
not great and we're going to have
8:25
a lot of questions about Kevin Durant's
8:27
and the future of this version of
8:29
the Phoenix Suns is there to get
8:31
bounced in this round, but Minnesota is
8:33
so impressive to meet with the a
8:36
lot yesterday about the idea of the
8:38
best team vs the best collection of
8:40
talents. Minnesota is it team. This is
8:42
a really good team. Even when Anthony
8:44
Edwards is being smothered this. Team steps
8:46
up around him and Karl Anthony Towns
8:48
talked about that after the game's about
8:50
how everyone on the team is willing
8:52
to sacrifice their role or whatever it
8:54
takes for the betterment of the collective.
8:57
and I think that makes them a
8:59
really, really dangerous bunch Losing. For yeah, I
9:01
mean it when you win a game like that
9:03
and you do not have the best game. For
9:05
me to the Edwards and you get Mcdaniels with
9:07
his be game, All birds of A and eventually
9:09
disease or guard. and Eighty nine. Devin Booker Different
9:11
times, it seems hard to believe the Phoenix is
9:13
going to come back and win an in in
9:15
Dallas just. Monsters. That's that's
9:17
what you're going to assume right now. Indian Dallas are
9:20
gonna take the Clippers and the or the button the
9:22
Clippers respectively to potentially six or seven games slavery with
9:24
in Dallas gonna win that series. I've been of the
9:26
belief that the Clippers are going to win answers your
9:28
that they would be a be A from yesterday. Is.
9:31
Yet another example of the ridiculous as of something. and
9:34
I love the and Be A you know that's mostly
9:36
I Be A does. That. No one else
9:38
does and that is the two minute report. The.
9:40
N B A puts out a two minute report
9:42
where they evaluate. The. Officiating and
9:44
the calls during the final two minutes of
9:47
every game and the release of the next
9:49
day. They put out a two minute reports
9:51
for the Nixon Sixers game to and this
9:53
for me as being.com and it's last two
9:55
minute report for the Knicks victory over the
9:57
Seventy Sixers again to the Mb rule. The
9:59
Tyree. There he was fouled multiple times during
10:01
a friend a frenetic defining sequence and of
10:04
the Seventy Sixers head coach Nick there's call
10:06
for a time out but the referee didn't
10:08
see it. The league's that Zealand brunson grab
10:10
Maxis jersey before the ball was impounded after
10:13
brunson three pointer tactile it obviously to to
10:15
and that Josh hearts and bump Max seats
10:17
as he taught me about past sending him.
10:20
Fall. Fall into the ground. Gradualist.
10:24
You. Made mistakes, Now. What would like
10:26
to do with that? We're not going to
10:28
change it or not gonna replay it. This
10:30
was the N B. A two minute report
10:32
was created for transparency in wake of what
10:34
happens with a horrible scandal around a referee
10:36
years and years ago. right with the Betty
10:38
Scandal. What we have learned since that is
10:40
that the N B A has been excellent
10:42
in their partnership with gambling and as the
10:44
N B A has people monitoring this, the
10:46
N B A as recently as one a
10:48
week ago band a player and John say
10:50
porter for life. For. Gambling in
10:53
their sport. We. Have figured out
10:55
a way of finding on transparency without releasing
10:57
a two minute reports. and I hope sports
10:59
fans don't look at this and say yeah,
11:01
You know what? I'd love more of this
11:03
in the Nfl or Major league Baseball, The
11:05
Nhl? Whatever it is. This is ridiculous. And
11:07
and the other things was. The.
11:09
Final two minutes don't count more than the two
11:12
minutes prior to that. Of the two minutes prior
11:14
to that are the forty six minutes prior Is
11:16
there's just more time or less time to make
11:18
up for mistakes in the last two minutes. But
11:20
all forty minutes to help? the same. Why are
11:22
we doing this What it is it do think
11:24
a Knicks fan. His book or
11:26
a six desensitized like our you know what
11:29
great finally approved this right? He. Stood
11:31
down o two exactly. There's no repercussions
11:33
from them getting the calls wrong. It's not
11:35
as if the outcome of the game is
11:37
going to set itself. While I appreciate the
11:40
transparency I guests getting, the two men are
11:42
poor is probably more frustrating than anything, especially
11:44
if you're a member of the sixers are
11:46
fan because you're pointing out yeah, you got
11:48
it wrong and now we're at a deficit
11:51
and there's nothing we can do about it.
11:54
There's. No reason to have. It. I'd like to
11:56
have eliminated. I can't imagine that any
11:58
fan of any other sport would. In their sport.
12:01
I. Would you want even baseball? If
12:03
they were released after the game like you know pot
12:06
they were directed at a balls and strikes and review
12:08
every Bolland sites. As. He has
12:10
little different because we can see the strike
12:12
zone so clearly and on replay you can
12:14
always tell whether the guy. That
12:16
call right or wrong. It's the whole
12:19
thing's ridiculous. Absolute ridiculous. The Knicks defeated
12:21
the Sixers two nights ago. The Sixers
12:23
got in in based on a two
12:25
minute report. The Sixers got really bad
12:27
breaks. If. You're unless you're gonna
12:29
replay the end of that game or
12:31
replay the game In general, there's no
12:33
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Jj Mccarthy National Championship quarterback
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guaranteed. When. It gets drafted a
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second. There's a big debate about what state you're in
15:28
the midwest. Yeah. During the break America's
15:30
heartland so I know that Ohio's in
15:32
the Midwest I said that. I think
15:34
some people in Ohio don't miss. I
15:36
consider themselves in the Midwest. The my
15:38
wrong about that. I don't know
15:41
what they consider, but as someone
15:43
who's from the midwest, I certainly
15:45
put Ohio in the Midwest. Their
15:47
okay, and the Big Ten rounds,
15:49
I guess. so. It was. It is
15:51
a Us season in Osceola against Writers Maryland
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is added to the jags and I buy
15:55
a parable example now that cannot be used
15:57
when we were upset that could be used.
16:00
Not anymore. But the other ones, you want to
16:02
eliminate the Dakotas for the Midwest? Yeah, I'm sorry.
16:04
All due respect to the Dakotas, shout out to you
16:06
guys. You're not in the Midwest. Is Nebraska?
16:09
You know, I think that corridor of
16:11
North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma,
16:13
it's almost its own column. So
16:16
everything west of the Mississippi?
16:18
Yeah, it's almost like Midwest West. They need
16:20
their own. Midwest West? Yeah,
16:22
because I consider Minnesota down and
16:25
basically between Minnesota and Ohio. That
16:27
little chunk right there to me
16:29
is the Midwest. So Minnesota, Iowa,
16:32
Missouri, Wisconsin, Illinois,
16:35
Indiana. None of those are west. No, I'm
16:37
saying anything east. She was a Midwest West and
16:39
a Midwest East hat. Of the Mississippi, that
16:41
is kind of my little Midwest chunk.
16:44
Now technically, obviously, Nebraska and
16:46
Kansas, farmland, heartland, like
16:48
yeah, Midwest, but it just feels a
16:50
little west. The Dakotas feel like it
16:52
should be lumped into kind of an
16:54
upper crust. An
16:56
upper crust? Yeah, almost
16:59
like push that over with the Montanas and
17:01
Wyoming's of kind of like the North. So
17:04
you're redoing the map of the United States here? Yeah, like
17:06
the Dakotas are kind of like the central Northwest. So
17:10
how many categories do we have? We
17:12
have the West Midwest, the central North.
17:14
Central Northwest. The central North. I can't
17:16
keep track of this. You have basically
17:18
made it into the college conferences. Like
17:21
if I met someone on the plane today, if I
17:23
sit down and the person next to me says, where
17:25
are you from? I'm from Illinois. And they're like, Midwest,
17:27
me too. I'm from North Dakota. I'd
17:29
be like, no, you're not. No, you're not
17:31
from North Dakota? No, you're not from the Midwest. No, you're not
17:33
from the Midwest. Got it. Okay. It
17:36
just would not feel Midwest to me. And maybe I'm wrong.
17:38
Maybe some of our lovely community members are unspoilthed, my community
17:40
members from the Dakotas can chime in here, but I don't
17:43
even know if they would identify Midwest. Wait, so what
17:45
states are in question for you here as to whether or
17:47
not they're in the Midwest? The Dakota corridor. So
17:49
the Dakota corridor. Again, a term
17:51
that does not exist, but go
17:53
ahead. North Dakota, South
17:55
Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, that little corridor,
17:58
top to bottom, that column. one is
18:00
a little Satsuma. I see what's happening. I
18:02
didn't pick up on this. You work the
18:04
A night the Math: A United States you
18:06
work in columns. That.
18:08
Is fast. So where's Texas for you? Texas
18:11
has his own dale. Texas. Texas. What
18:13
about Arkansas? Why did you to
18:15
send your voice for the sexes?
18:17
The Secretaries: Halliburton, I'm your voice.
18:20
Excise, Taxes. Like as I'm concerned, but Texas
18:22
is that. Is a hot spots? Yeah!
18:24
There's like American in their success. Know
18:26
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not mid was aided I'd say he has
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the and now. We. Know Michigan is
19:00
in the Midwest when midwest right? Firmly.
19:03
In the middle. And. We are heading there today. Or.
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Producer New Know has noticed sensing by way
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former head Coach New Know. I give you
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Touched By You Can you explain what's happening
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here. Are so the
19:21
ones I just the quarterback that
19:23
everyone doesn't know where he's going
19:25
land is Joe Mccarthy right just
19:27
by his odds of move. But
19:29
the interesting thing is so have
19:31
the Chargers odds of nunnery draft
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him a car. Seats were drafted
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a quarterback know the charges. Odds
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to draft Mccarthy's raz Long as
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forty two one. Zero. Know
19:42
eight to one opponents or friends that
19:44
he is in best. That. The
19:46
charges us to draft a quarterback with
19:48
their first picked open that a hundred
19:51
to one in are now at six
19:53
to one. So the question is. That
19:55
is it. or the charges really
19:57
considering second, a quarterback or or.
20:00
It is a dirty have a deal in place.
20:02
For. Let's say Mccarthy if he's there
20:04
with they nother t said This is what
20:06
I wanna try to understand here. Are.
20:09
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details that he has been bet we'll be at the
20:20
he has been bet location Detroit started more. I.
20:23
As they say that Jj. Mccarthy's
20:26
gonna go five to the charges
20:28
slots. Or. Are they saying he's
20:30
gonna go to the Chargers? potentially as
20:32
a team's Is that why the I
20:34
go from one hundred a one the
20:36
six to one? Because that is. those
20:38
are two different things. like ethnically Uma,
20:40
Eli Manning was drafted by the Chargers
20:42
and Philip Rivers was drafted by the
20:44
Giants, right? So if you say could,
20:46
could Jg Mccarthy be drafted by the
20:48
Chargers tomorrow night? Yes, Pretty. Stay
20:50
on the Chargers. The assumption is
20:52
no. But. Based on these
20:54
odds, your mind goes to crazy places because
20:57
who's the coaches, Chargers and Marvel? And who's
20:59
the one guy who said I would take
21:01
him number one overall if I had that
21:03
best. The guy who won a national title is. So
21:07
that absurd. That. The path
21:09
and you know is leading us down to
21:11
think that maybe possibly Jim Harbaugh says you
21:13
know what? This. Guy: so
21:15
good. As. Is so valuable said
21:17
as he quote unquote slips to us at
21:19
five we have to take him even if
21:22
we don't play him right away. So we
21:24
put extra pressure on a guy that we
21:26
all think it's gonna be a mega star
21:29
under her boss and just and Herbert's to
21:31
perform because if not I got my guy
21:33
sitting behind him as have to assume small
21:35
that this would be the odds are lowering
21:38
for him to be drafted in s lot
21:40
because that seems like the obvious slots for
21:42
a team like the by things or design
21:45
some of up one slot. Or anyone
21:47
else that would be interested in potentially
21:49
drafting this guy. To. Get at
21:51
number five. But. Not to us
21:53
for a loop on this one because. Put. The
21:55
Chargers actually address and. They. Could
21:57
they? absolutely could. Jim Harbaugh.
22:00
It made no bones about the fact
22:02
that he loves Jj Mccarthy and he
22:04
thinks he's going to be an excellent
22:06
pro. And why wouldn't you love the
22:09
guy? He helped him get a national
22:11
championship at Michigan. he would did so
22:13
malleable for Harbaugh. He did what was
22:16
asked of him. He played the role
22:18
to perfection at Michigan. He's got the
22:20
makeup of a player that Jim Harbaugh
22:23
would want. The. With the Chargers. However,
22:25
despite his love for Gg Mccarthy, I
22:27
keep going back to the fact that
22:29
a massive reason why he left Michigan
22:32
to go to the Nfl was to
22:34
take this job specifically because he wanted
22:36
to coach Just and Harbors before this
22:38
was even on the radar months ago.
22:40
Green he came in here and joined
22:42
us and said he spoke to Harbor
22:45
at a funeral home and what are
22:47
the things that he told them with
22:49
how much he loved Just and Herbert's
22:51
and So even though I could definitely
22:53
see. The stars aligning and the
22:55
Chargers with their first round pick taking
22:58
Jg Mccarthy if he's there. I also
23:00
don't know if they would wanna waste
23:02
that opportunity to get more talent to
23:05
build around just in Herbert. Who.
23:07
Is a huge reason why Harbours. Even their I agree
23:09
with you it would seem so unlikely. but then
23:11
how do you explain the odds gone from a
23:13
hundred one to six when the only thing you
23:15
could do is really look as if I that
23:17
he would be drafted in That's walk right? That's
23:19
that's how you would have to look at it
23:21
in terms of where he is potentially going to
23:23
be drafted. The odds were they open and where
23:25
they are currently by way of years be in
23:27
bed for Jj Mccarthy who is probably the most
23:29
interesting person here in the draft because as to
23:31
where he goes we know killer whales going one
23:33
to the bears we know Jane doing is going
23:35
to to Washington we know dragged my was going
23:37
to. Be are with us at eight thirty
23:39
five. an easier time. The North Carolina quarterbacks
23:41
is going over three which don't know. the
23:44
T. We assume it's either New England or
23:46
Minnesota is where we go, right? We assume
23:48
Marvin Harrison Jr is going for to Arizona
23:50
unless maybe possibly somebody trades up there. And
23:52
I think we have to assume Gg Mccarthy
23:54
goes five or six. Yes or I haven't
23:56
slot. but we have no idea what team he would
23:58
go to add something Maybe he just slips all the
24:00
way to 11 and Minnesota, right? So if you look
24:03
at it the odds where they open where they are
24:05
now number two overall 50 to 1 to 10 to
24:07
1 now number three
24:09
overall six to one to four to one now number
24:11
four overall 16 to 1 to now
24:13
plus 350 and number five
24:15
overall 13 to 1 to now plus 240 So
24:18
that four or five slot is where
24:20
ESPN bet is targeting him going But
24:22
Nuno noticing what he noticed about the
24:24
Chargers is very interesting specifically because who
24:26
the quarterback is the Michigan guy and
24:29
who the coaches the Michigan guy with
24:31
the tattoo and 15 and oh and
24:34
Could we be thrown for a loop in a
24:36
way that none of us see coming? So
24:38
in this scenario if they were to stay
24:40
put at five and take McCarthy there It's
24:43
one of the biggest draft shocks we'll ever have Will
24:46
it be that shocking? Yeah because of the coach. Yeah,
24:49
they have you just said it the big funeral Sorry
24:52
to whoever passed the rest in peace. Yes awesome purse. Yeah
24:55
We don't actually know because Grady and Harbaugh
24:57
were at a funeral that just they are talking about
24:59
JJ. I'm sorry talking about Justin Herbert Yeah,
25:03
because you said it the guy
25:06
Because of the other guy and now he's gonna replace
25:08
him not replace him But you always
25:10
say you have them laminated the quarterback Quarterback
25:14
when you want one not when you need one
25:16
and he wants JJ McCarthy. He doesn't need him
25:19
I'm fascinated by this. I am fascinated
25:22
by what it means that it yes It
25:24
still would be stunning absolutely stunning. I
25:27
wouldn't be completely shocked I would be
25:29
a little bit more shocked
25:31
that some other team didn't jump up
25:33
to get him And it ain't say
25:35
ESPN is your telephone number to join the show
25:38
We got two things out there for you guys
25:40
to chime in on one the what are you
25:42
calling it? The North Dakota column. No, no the
25:44
Dakota corridor. Oh, I'm sorry The Dakota corridor that
25:46
column where the Dakotas are in the United States
25:49
is that the Midwest and is there
25:51
a bigger? realistic draft shock
25:56
Then the idea of JJ McCarthy
25:58
to the Chargers By the
26:00
way, Adam Schefter is here, a Michigan man
26:02
who had JJ McCarthy on his most recent
26:04
podcast on the ESPN app. Good morning, Adam.
26:06
How are you? Adam
26:08
Michelle, I'm sitting here in Detroit, taking some notes.
26:10
It's like six in the morning and I see
26:13
the headline pop on the screen, could JJ McCarthy
26:15
be a charger? And I hear you talking
26:17
about the odds dropping. Let me remind you that
26:19
the odds also increased
26:22
dramatically that the commanders are going
26:24
to be taking Drake May at
26:27
two last week for whatever reason.
26:29
And Jayden Dang always has been the favorite
26:32
in that spot and remains to be the favorite. So
26:34
I see the headline on the screen, could JJ McCarthy
26:36
be a charger? And I see
26:38
you, Michelle, they're not drafting JJ McCarthy.
26:41
They are not drafting JJ McCarthy. Now,
26:43
could somebody trade into five to draft
26:46
JJ McCarthy? That's the bet? Yeah,
26:48
that's possible. Absolutely.
26:51
But the Chargers have Justin Herbert.
26:54
The new money in Justin Herbert's contract
26:56
has not kicked in. They
26:58
can't trade Justin Herbert. So
27:00
they're not drafting JJ McCarthy as
27:02
the first pick to create a
27:04
controversial situation in L.A. about who
27:06
they should start in quarterback when
27:08
they've drafted a franchise quarterback in
27:10
Justin Herbert and he's the guy.
27:13
So I don't know how the odds on that would ever go
27:16
up to what you say, eight to one. They
27:18
got down to six to one. Adam, I
27:21
have to believe that that's... Oh my God.
27:24
That has to be for the slot, not the team, right? Has
27:26
to be for the slot. Yeah. Has to
27:28
be for the slot. Cannot be for the team. Has
27:30
to be for the slot. Now again, but
27:33
I see the headline on your screen, could
27:35
JJ McCarthy be a charger? No. JJ
27:38
McCarthy can be a charger. From
27:40
Adam Schrafter himself. And Adam,
27:43
wasn't Herbert a huge reason why Harbaugh
27:45
even wanted this job at the outset?
27:48
Absolutely. It was definitely an attractive
27:50
part of it to go coach
27:52
a quarterback like that. And
27:55
So, could ultimately the Chargers tomorrow night be
27:58
the team that trades that? That's possible. The
28:00
Book. Absolutely. But.
28:03
They. Are Not rafting Johjima coaches
28:05
That's not gonna happen And. That.
28:08
Has to be orders that the odds with the six
28:11
to one on the slot not to key. As
28:13
to be get sicker below? what? Are
28:17
we don't want to disrupt your time in Detroit but or
28:19
anything else that we need to know here one day before
28:21
the draft. As long as the guy is se. I'm
28:24
just moderate know your way and as
28:26
I watched the show I might as
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it that's my that's my little I
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just like a service to the are
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taking notes work out to Jg record
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to get nicer. Let me call it
28:42
a second round so Jg record the
28:44
can't be a charger as the unsportsmanlike
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30:30
you've also started a controversy that
30:32
when Nuno presents to us the
30:35
fascinating odds for ESPN Bet about
30:37
JJ McCarthy, his odds going
30:39
from 100 to 1 to 6 to 1
30:41
to the Chargers at 5, you
30:43
think it's not the craziest thing
30:45
in the world to think it's actually the
30:47
Chargers. I'm saying it has to just be
30:49
the slot that the odds are he gets
30:51
drafted at 5 overall. And
30:54
you're saying, wow, it's not the craziest thing I've
30:56
heard. To which Adam Schefter just called in. And
30:58
we love Shaftie, the ombudsman of our show. So
31:00
if we say something wrong in this segment, we
31:03
expect to hear from Adam in about 10 minutes
31:05
that we screwed up something with Penix and Nyx
31:07
coming up as well. That
31:10
you think, maybe there's a chance, even
31:12
though Schefter told us there's no chance. I
31:15
think it's highly unlikely, but just based
31:17
on the mutual
31:19
love between the two and the success
31:21
that they've had together. And
31:24
the fact that Jim Harbaugh has been
31:26
so vocal in this process leading
31:28
up to tomorrow night about how much he loves
31:30
JJ McCarthy and how well he thinks he's going
31:32
to do in the NFL. It
31:34
is not the craziest thing I've ever heard.
31:37
Like I said, highly improbable because he took
31:39
the job in large part because he wanted
31:41
to work with Justin Herbert, which you can
31:43
blame him. This guy is a top 10
31:45
quarterback that we still feel has another level
31:48
to him, that there is a part of
31:50
his game that can be unlocked. That
31:53
is very appealing for a guy like Jim
31:55
Harbaugh. But I wouldn't be totally floored if
31:57
McCarthy somehow landed with the Chargers. take
32:00
down the graphic on ESPN2, could JJ McCarthy
32:02
be a charger? If we're going to respect
32:04
Adam Schefter as this shows ombudsman. And he
32:07
is. He corrected our mistake. I think we
32:09
have to listen. What's Schefter says goes. We
32:12
have to change that. So should it say why have
32:15
the odds shifted? Better.
32:18
Better. Because that's what we're really taking around. Could JJ
32:20
McCarthy go fifth? Yes. I'm
32:22
not blaming Mark. He's an absolutely go fifth. Morales
32:24
is our TV producer today. He's looking into Nick's
32:26
G-League stats currently. But I just think if Schefter
32:29
is going to say it, we have to respect
32:31
Schefter in his new role on this show. Andy
32:34
in South Dakota on 102.3. The
32:37
Midwest. What's up, Andy? Good morning, guys.
32:39
Real quick, small. You
32:44
made a comment how Nebraska and
32:46
Kansas are part of the Midwest.
32:50
I just want to say we are straight up
32:52
north of Nebraska and Kansas.
32:55
Is this the word kind of considered, I would
32:57
say, the Upper Midwest in
32:59
our wonderful country? Yes. I
33:02
put, Andy, the Dakotas, as I said,
33:05
in the Dakota corridor. That whole column
33:08
of the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, top to
33:10
bottom, I kind of consider it its own
33:12
thing. Starting with the Dakotas. The
33:15
Dakota corridor. It's
33:17
literally called, I'm getting tweets from people
33:19
out of it. It's called the Great
33:21
Plains. Oh, the Great Plains. She's
33:24
made up a term for this. JP
33:27
and Raleigh on ESPN2. What's up, JP?
33:30
Hey, how you doing? First, Michelle,
33:32
I graduated from Illinois in 93. Nice.
33:36
Big fan. ILLJP. Thanks.
33:39
I and I. The other thing, I agree, Great
33:41
Plains. I think Missouri is
33:43
kind of questionable. Totally does. St. Louis
33:45
in the Upper half is definitely Midwest,
33:48
but southern part of Missouri, I'd call
33:50
the south. Could not agree more.
33:53
Southern part of Missouri is the south. You get 30 minutes outside of St. Louis.
33:56
You might as well be in Arkansas. And
33:58
let me tell you something. When I meet people. I
34:01
say I am from st. Louis but
34:03
on the Illinois side, which is a
34:05
very important distinction I do not identify
34:07
Missouri at all and
34:09
I think Missouri is more south that
34:11
that little chunk of st Louis is
34:13
kind of Midwest, but a lot of
34:15
Missouri I would consider the south could
34:18
not agree with JP more Okay, Jerry
34:20
in Kansas on serious xm 80 in
34:22
the Midwest or the Dakota
34:24
corridor. What's up? Yeah, good
34:28
morning guys. I call it the
34:30
upper Midwest. Love that Jerry North
34:34
South Dakota, Wisconsin, Michigan and
34:39
Since I'm from Arkansas go hogs of Oxay,
34:43
Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas is in the
34:46
south and Jerry. What about
34:48
Kansas? You put Kansas firmly in the Midwest
34:51
Yes, okay, most definitely with
34:54
Missouri See
34:57
all see what you're making stuff up, but
34:59
that little Kansas Missouri It's the Midwest but
35:01
it's kind of Oklahoma. It's kind of its
35:03
own little chunk right there You
35:05
keep saying the chunk. I don't know where these things are I
35:08
literally I want to tell everybody I have
35:10
a map of the United States on my screen
35:12
as we're having this conversation I really know where
35:14
nothing is I have to actually
35:16
follow it would be easier for me to
35:19
give you random draft Prospects and random notes
35:21
about the NBA playoffs last night than it
35:23
would be to actually identify states on a
35:25
map really Yeah, I'm not very smart Mason
35:28
in st. Louis. I want to want ESPN. What's
35:30
that Mason? Hey,
35:32
good morning guys. I was just calling
35:34
to say I definitely think Kansas and
35:36
Missouri or more Midwest than Wisconsin and
35:38
Minnesota Wait
35:41
what I spent five years in Wisconsin. I went
35:43
to University of Wisconsin and then worked there afterwards
35:45
You're telling me Wisconsin is not the Midwest That's
35:49
way more north So
35:53
Midwest Crown jewel of
35:55
the Midwest in my opinion. How could you
35:57
thank you? How can you not consider? Wisconsin
36:00
the Midwest. When you think I am so
36:02
proud as a New Yorker, I'm from New
36:04
York, I live in New York now, I
36:07
spent years in Florida, but I spent
36:09
five years living in the Midwest and
36:11
part of like who I am as
36:13
a person, the values that I have
36:15
and the experiences from living in the
36:17
Midwest and experiencing something totally different with
36:19
the amazing people in the state of
36:21
Wisconsin, that's the Midwest. Oh, Wisconsin,
36:23
Minnesota, they may be Upper
36:26
Midwest, they are firmly
36:28
in the Midwest category. All
36:30
right, we'll see what Shafter has
36:32
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36:34
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38:39
We're gonna see a lot of Mel over the
38:41
next few days. Can't wait. NFL Draft, we are
38:43
gonna be there in Detroit. CC
38:46
back with us tomorrow and Friday from
38:49
Detroit. ESPN Bet. True
38:51
Green, thank you. We are heading to Detroit for
38:54
the Draft. Where... J.J. McCarthy, where
38:56
does he go? Michael Penix, where does he go? Bo
38:59
Nix, where does he go? And what
39:01
team does Drake May go to? Fascinating
39:04
questions, all to be answered. Tomorrow
39:06
and maybe Friday in the case of
39:08
Nix and Penix? Maybe. Right, like
39:11
there's no guarantee that those two guys are going to
39:13
be drafted. Tomorrow night, we would think they would be.
39:16
I've said on the record that I think that 6
39:18
in the top 16 from the quarterbacks, but I'm not
39:20
sure I'm gonna be right about that. Alright Smalls, each
39:22
and every Wednesday at this time, we do an ESPN
39:24
Personality Draft. We pick a topic and
39:26
we draft ESPN personalities off of that topic. Tell
39:29
everybody what we're doing today and why we're doing it. Well
39:31
today, right after the show, we are on
39:33
our way to the airport to catch a
39:35
flight to go to Detroit for the Draft.
39:38
So today in our ESPN Personality Draft, we
39:40
are gonna draft people from ESPN that we'd
39:42
wanna sit next to on a flight. Now
39:45
I've already been shot down on one thing.
39:47
Okay. So I wanted to pick
39:49
people that I know fly
39:51
private, because then if you pick them, then
39:54
you're on the flight with them. No, you
39:56
can't pat her be off on that. Well,
39:58
her street has an amazing. It's an amazing
40:02
private jet deal, right? We've seen with Game Day.
40:04
Yes. The entire Game Day crew.
40:06
Yeah, you can't travel like his dog, Evan, in
40:08
the lap of luxury. I'm sorry. Okay. Well,
40:11
I tried. All right. Go ahead,
40:13
Smalls. Kick us off. Okay. So
40:16
our ESPN personality draft, the first person that I am
40:18
going to select that I want to sit next to
40:20
on a flight, specifically this flight
40:22
that I'm going to take today because
40:24
it's top of mind. Give me out
40:26
of shelter. Give me
40:28
friend of the show. Out of shelter. As my
40:31
first pick. Not only is Chester
40:33
nice and considerate, so I think he would
40:35
be a great seatmate, we're going to Detroit.
40:37
He's watching the show right now and just
40:40
called in to chime in on our conversation
40:42
about JJ McCarthy. If he strapped in at
40:44
30,000 feet, he can't escape
40:46
me. So I will be peppering him
40:49
with draft questions and undoubtedly come out
40:51
with a very interesting nugget of information.
40:53
So that's the thing. Like, are we on a
40:55
flight? Normally, I like to put my headsets on,
40:57
get my laptop open, and I'm done. I'm not
41:00
talking to anybody. I guess we're playing out in
41:02
this scenario that we're going to talk to people,
41:04
right? I guess we're going to have
41:06
to. Right. It depends on if that's what you
41:08
want. Okay. Well, I'm going to play that
41:10
out here. So my first two picks, we're doing it snake draft
41:12
style. I get two, then you get two, et cetera. Adrian
41:15
Wojcicki. Whoa. So hold
41:18
on. We're also picking for Kante because,
41:20
you know, that's as we've done
41:22
previously. Oh, yes. I didn't know that. So
41:24
you guys go next, right? You guys made my pick out.
41:26
Okay. You can take Wojc. No, you're
41:28
fine. You can take Wojc. Tell us
41:30
why you're going to take Wojc. I'm going to take
41:32
Wojc for many reasons, but I'm going to take
41:34
Wojc because Wojc has been so nice to us
41:37
since we started and so welcoming. So that's number
41:39
one. Check mark. We love Wojc.
41:41
Second thing, he will be annoyed with me by
41:44
the end of this flight, but I am going
41:46
to ask him so many questions about free agency
41:48
and trades. He will, he'll put three headsets on.
41:50
I can't listen to this guy anymore. Leave
41:52
me alone. So there's my first pick with Wojc. Go ahead,
41:54
Nuno. Sorry, I didn't realize we had CC's picks. Yeah.
41:57
So Pat's going to pick First
41:59
for CC. Jeff Darlington doesn't feel like it
42:01
would be a was on my goals and
42:04
one season perfect combination of you know you
42:06
could chat about football, you could chat about
42:08
whatever but I feel like it Also get
42:10
that some point. Know when did stop talking
42:12
and put his of Byzantium darlings? It also
42:15
one of those guys you assume smells good.
42:17
Cholesterol. Darlington definitely smells good Under said
42:19
I've we've been around Arlington he says
42:21
cause could be Darlington definitely smells good.
42:23
You want to sit next to somebody
42:25
that smells good on a plane? Without.
42:28
A doubt. Arsenal. Snowed on. It's
42:30
a snake draft so. What
42:35
do? A first skirted of
42:37
do so said this I of
42:39
i'm gonna take friend of his
42:41
show whose birthday was yesterday on
42:44
sealed yates another guy listen I
42:46
gotta how Good and Field is
42:48
very versatile loves the and be
42:50
a very versatile and day spas
42:52
also it's know when you certain
42:54
to set up like a western
42:56
conversation stuff talked and that's evidence
42:59
of fulfill the aids. Good
43:01
one. Madison go of and now I go
43:03
with my second pic from the first round. Correct!
43:06
A second pic effects. Of.
43:09
My second pic is someone that.
43:12
To. Say that I would want information out
43:14
of and stories from would be an understatement.
43:16
Jimmy Tedy Bruschi. Oh. Boy
43:19
see. Another guy bread a
43:21
success he was eight sitting. Next few are
43:23
suddenly how many people would despise me by
43:26
the end of this fight because I'm asking
43:28
what would you about every trade possible and
43:30
I just one enough We so enchanted this
43:32
what about would build the dad said he
43:35
was what about this would I would you
43:37
on this day what about when you on
43:39
that team or have it you would for
43:41
able to tell me about the our guy
43:44
would he be annoyed by me Go had
43:46
small. So. My next
43:48
tech. As someone that not only
43:50
I wanna talk to but again
43:52
I think would be a very
43:54
considerate seatmates I think this person
43:56
is. Probably. has great
43:58
social cues because her job she has
44:01
to read the room and know when to
44:03
wrap up a subject or when to pull
44:05
something more out of you. She understands the
44:07
art of the conversation and to your point
44:09
about smelling good she's always so fashionable. I
44:11
bet she has an amazing perfume on so
44:13
I would love to sit next to her
44:15
and we could talk football, we could talk
44:17
golf, we could talk anything. Give me Laura
44:19
Rutledge. That's a good one, very good
44:21
one. I want to sit next to Laura Rutledge on
44:23
a flight. Whose turn is it? I don't
44:25
want to screw this up. It's a snake dress so
44:27
Michelle. Okay. Just screwed it up.
44:31
So I want to sit next to someone
44:33
on a flight if we're operating under the premise
44:35
that we're going to laugh, we're going
44:37
to be talking. So I want to sit next to somebody
44:39
that is going to make me laugh. You know who's so
44:41
fun to talk to and I think I could talk to
44:43
for the entirety of a flight and I would laugh and
44:46
who would absolutely stand up to probably help me
44:48
with my bag because he's that type of guy?
44:50
It's Damien Woody. Friend of the show who's going
44:52
to join us later today. I'm rounding out my
44:54
top three with Damien Woody. Well done. Who's
44:57
that? That's not Nick as who,
44:59
Nuno? That would be you, Evan. Okay. I'm going
45:01
to pick someone. On a flight, one of the keys is you
45:03
got to know when to talk and when not to talk. Right.
45:07
Right? Monica
45:09
McNutt did such an unbelievable job. The
45:12
final call of the Knicks game the other night that went
45:14
viral. Her ability to know, okay, I'm going to jump in
45:16
here. I'm going to jump in there. Wait, I got to
45:18
sit back here. That is Flight
45:20
Etiquette 101. Monica McNutt thought
45:22
she was doing a great broadcast and
45:24
she did. But she also
45:27
gave Flight Etiquette 101 as to when to talk
45:29
or when not to talk. So give me Monica
45:31
McNutt on the flight next to me today to
45:33
Detroit. Good. Good
45:35
one. I had her on my big board. You
45:38
could have picked her. I know. I
45:40
went with Damien instead, but Monica solid pick. All
45:43
right, Nuno. Go ahead, Gervonta.
45:45
All right. I'm going to go with
45:47
Freddie simply because I feel like Freddie would
45:49
not talk that much and I wouldn't want
45:51
to talk to people that much. I'm normally
45:53
a guy that throw my headphones on and
45:55
listen to music. And as we all know,
45:58
Freddie has a great music selection choice. If
46:00
I run out of music, I feel like I go to Freddy,
46:02
be like, hey Freddy, what should I listen to? Freddy Coleman's a
46:04
great pick. That is an awesome pick. I just realized I should
46:06
have picked Jovante. He wouldn't say a word.
46:09
It'd be amazing. Yeah? I'd be asleep
46:11
the entire time. Thanks for listening
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