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Hour 3: Is Saquon a Top 10 Player?

Thursday, 6th October 2022
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you know? Yes. That is correct. eight seven in

1:01

New York, Great Station.

1:03

the and and

1:05

Jay was

1:06

already going nuts. We're not even talking

1:08

about this yet. Right? Jay's all I'm like,

1:10

hold on. We're about to talk about Seguin Barking,

1:12

and he's chewing my ear off about what Jay?

1:15

I just don't want Mitra Jabiski on our team.

1:17

Hi. It's fine. don't

1:19

know what it is. This is personal for me. It's

1:21

fine. I'm allowed to have feelings and emotions. Does

1:23

he have a past due? Just well, just follows

1:25

me. I mean, he he followed me to Chicago.

1:27

I saw it there, Keith. I saw what

1:29

time it was, and it was funny for me

1:32

because that narrative changed for people. Right?

1:34

I got it with Matt Nagy. I

1:36

was over Matt Nagy from the beginning,

1:38

but then people started trying to tell me, well, look,

1:40

Richard Chabinsky, he just you know, he took him

1:42

look, he he won a lot of games and look what he different

1:44

from, like, look, there is no people. There's

1:46

Kishan John's Not you, Kish. Are other

1:48

people say it too? Are other

1:50

people say it too? And I'm like, I'm just trying to tell

1:52

you he's not the leader of

1:54

a team. Like, when I see these transcended They

1:57

almost like him. He was on the bills. I

2:00

when

2:00

I see these transcended quarterbacks, I

2:03

want a transcendent quarterback with

2:05

my team. Hold on. As a wait. Daniel

2:09

Jones with the ankle. Tyler Taylor

2:11

with a concussion. and and we just need a

2:13

guy to go to London. You're looking for a transcendent

2:16

quarterback. Daniel Jones, he'll be fine.

2:18

If he can transcend the Atlantic, we're

2:20

good. I don't wanna bring Mitra Chabinsky over for

2:22

ten million dollars a year. I don't I

2:24

don't I don't think he's deserving of ten million dollars

2:26

a year. I'm sorry. I saw Chabinsky in

2:29

Chicago. I've seen Trebisky

2:31

with Mike Tomlin. It's

2:33

Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin makes anything work

2:35

for everybody. He's the coaches of all coaches.

2:38

So I know Brian Daybell took a chance of him in

2:40

Buffalo for a year. I know he's under

2:42

the tutelage. I just I don't

2:44

want him near my team. key I don't.

2:46

Daniel Jones participated in Wednesday's

2:49

practice. Brian Daybell said the

2:51

giants also would want to evaluate

2:53

his ankle on a daily basis before

2:55

making a decision on whether he would play --

2:57

Yeah.

2:57

-- probably be a game time decision. They're

3:00

playing overseas. Should the

3:02

tie rod tailor is out for a minute

3:04

should the giants consider trading

3:07

for Mitch Trebisky key? And

3:09

do what? Fly him over to London?

3:11

I mean, just They they

3:13

not for this Sunday. It's a little bit much for

3:15

this Sunday. say okay. Yeah. Okay.

3:17

In general, key. Oh. So they trade for

3:19

him in general.

3:22

Probably not. Thank

3:24

you. No. Not because of that.

3:26

Doesn't matter whatever your reason is, it's gonna work

3:28

for me. Go ahead. Tell me.

3:30

I just think it's a little it's probably

3:32

a little too late

3:33

to go get him even

3:36

though Tyrone Taylor's banged up, but I don't know

3:38

how long t t will be out.

3:39

the you

3:41

it's a little too late to getting Mitsubishi

3:44

made the biggest mistake in in anything as

3:46

far as I'm concerned about going to Pittsburgh to

3:48

begin with. he shoulda he shoulda just

3:50

negotiated with the big blue wrecking

3:53

crew and got it done

3:55

-- Mhmm. -- when they were

3:57

kind

3:57

of, you know, flirting, court,

3:59

and whatever

3:59

the case was because of the relationship

4:02

that he had with Brian Daybell from his Buffalo

4:04

Days. And Yes.

4:06

It would probably been in a

4:08

quarterback

4:10

battle, so to speak, to a degree,

4:12

but he gets a little bit of upper hand

4:15

because

4:15

of the little bit of familiarity that

4:18

Brian Dave will have with him for a year

4:20

and liked him enough

4:21

to sniffing

4:23

out to possibly join the Giants.

4:25

But he went to Pittsburgh because it was an open

4:27

situation where, you

4:29

know,

4:29

there was no quarterback at all. It was

4:31

just you you could come in and he'll

4:33

start and then eventually drop to the guy.

4:36

I felt all alone. If he wanted to

4:38

get

4:38

his career back on track,

4:41

that New York would have been the best situation

4:44

because the moment mid the

4:46

moment Daniel Jones started to teeter

4:48

along, they would have put Mitra Biski

4:51

in and moved on from the Daniel

4:53

Jahl's experiment. The giants are playing packers

4:55

over in London, that'll be a hot ticket for Jay

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happens live, guys. Me time. Sequan

5:08

Barkley is

5:09

currently leading the NFL.

5:12

with five hundred seventy scrimmage

5:14

yards through four games as I predicted before

5:16

the season. Here's

5:17

the question.

5:18

Is he a so I just throw

5:21

out a lot of predictions. Some of them stick, you know,

5:23

Lamar Jackson. You know, he's gonna have

5:25

this made touchdown, Seguin. Barclays yards

5:27

is is Seguin. Key,

5:29

I

5:29

didn't play. This is all I got. Is Sequan

5:32

a top ten player in the

5:34

NFL right now, Key?

5:38

top tier player in the NFL

5:40

right now. He's blocking for Daniel

5:42

Jones on those He's pro I mean,

5:45

Yeah. I mean, I I could probably find

5:49

nine guys that's playing

5:50

a good football and and stack them

5:53

up but he probably would be in that list.

5:55

Mhmm. You know, he probably would be in that list

5:57

because, you know, you got quarterbacks. Right? You

5:59

gotta you you gotta

5:59

have basketballs in in in Josh

6:02

Allen in in in all the QB.

6:04

So you got, like, five, six

6:07

quarterbacks. And then you got some receivers

6:09

and a defense player you Or if you go by

6:11

position key Like your parcents. If you

6:13

go by position and you're the best at your

6:15

position, there are eleven positions. Right?

6:17

And the offensive line, you're not gonna take guard.

6:19

Right? Garlic. So so if you're the

6:21

best at your position, you probably are around

6:23

top ten. Right? He's not a

6:25

top ten, guys.

6:27

He's not he's not taking you

6:29

because I I devalue

6:31

the running back position. I

6:32

think he's having No. I don't. I devalue

6:35

it at all. Well, I do because of injury rate. And

6:37

what I've seen was Sequan Barclay over the course of

6:39

his career and with other running backs, I

6:41

think take Sequan is playing like a top

6:43

ten player. Why is the injury rate affect like,

6:45

injury rate shouldn't affect how you value

6:47

him in a moment because he's not an injury. Jay,

6:49

I play with play with Curtis Martin, who's

6:51

a hall of fameer. I play with Ward

6:53

Dunn, who's ridiculous. And I play with

6:55

Mike Allstadt, Michael Pittman,

6:58

him dues. I can't devalue. I don't

7:00

know why. I mean,

7:01

they did so much

7:03

for our teams

7:04

because they're easier to place the ideas

7:07

key that that it's not that they don't what they don't do

7:09

is an important or difficult. It's that

7:11

other people can do the

7:13

job more or less if

7:15

it's a little less like them, it's much harder

7:17

to to approximate you

7:21

a a number one receiver. then

7:23

it is to approximate a number

7:25

one back. Here's the idea. Here's why I don't

7:27

think he's top ten. Let's go I I can go

7:29

through ten players right now that I

7:31

think I would take with the way

7:33

they're playing over Sequan. And

7:34

I love I love Sequan. I'm a giant fan.

7:36

Yep. I would tell either Aaron Donald.

7:38

One, I would take Aaron Rogers.

7:41

Well,

7:41

you're not not right now, he's not been

7:43

playing better, but you went I got CAG you

7:45

wouldn't. Max Keller. Max Meyer.

7:47

Eight Air Rogers, though. What is Kelly? I

7:49

can't. He's done There's

7:52

two separate questions. What I take, Anurag, was take

7:55

one of course. But if we're saying how have

7:57

they played so far this year, Matt? Take one's

7:59

been a better running

7:59

back so far this year, then Aaron Rogers

8:02

has been a quarterback. That's not true.

8:04

That's not not true. It's and Aaron Rogers has

8:06

been the best quarterback in football this year, so far.

8:08

Aaron say he was just running back. I

8:10

mean, Max. Yeah. Aaron Rogers

8:12

is dropping dimes. I think you Is he the that's

8:14

a quarterback? football right now.

8:16

As you know, when his six doesn't say

8:18

that. Do you think he has been?

8:20

he's been flawless as far as I can,

8:22

sir. Alright. Alright.

8:23

Consensus win on that one. We we'll I

8:26

mean, I I think they're a handful of quarters. so

8:28

far, please. Yeah. Do a pick six at

8:30

home last week against renewing the Patriots?

8:32

You'll never see that again. Yeah.

8:34

You won't see it at all. Like, you went at home

8:36

and it's stupid. Sure again. Okay.

8:38

So that's two. Okay. I'll check my

8:40

homes. Yep. k.

8:42

Cool with that? Okay.

8:44

I think Josh Re gotcha. Josh Allen?

8:46

Mhmm. Okay.

8:47

Cooper cup.

8:49

Season wise? Okay.

8:51

That's right. I mean, Cooper

8:53

cup is

8:53

very good. Diwati

8:55

Adams? Justin

8:56

Jefferson? No. No one on Davonte so

8:58

far. Like a Parsons? Parsons.

9:00

Yes. Let's let

9:01

let's leave quarterbacks aside for

9:03

a second because quarterback is But you only have to leave

9:06

quarterback. What I'm saying is quarterback is so

9:08

important to the team running back.

9:10

Well, net, of course, a quarterback. Really,

9:12

what we're talking about is for

9:14

his position. No. No. No. No. I wasn't the

9:16

question. The question was, is he a

9:18

top ten player in the league? The

9:20

question was, Is he a top player at

9:22

his position or top three at his position?

9:24

Top ten

9:24

player in the league. So that has to Let's just change it

9:27

to top ten non quarterback. Because

9:30

otherwise, it becomes a quarterback list,

9:32

guys. You wanna do a quarterback list? I

9:34

said that at the top. I said

9:36

I said at the top max. you're

9:38

gonna pick you say in top ten, there's

9:40

gonna be six quarterbacks in front

9:42

of him. Then there's gonna be a couple

9:44

receivers. Sure. They're gonna be aired down on the

9:46

Michael Parsons, gonna be quarterbacks,

9:48

please. It's gonna be those guys.

9:51

Max. So let's do non quarterbacks. because otherwise Max

9:53

Crosby lies me in front of him. And then he's a kicker.

9:55

Okay. Let's talk about non

9:57

quarterbacks. Is he a top ten

9:59

non

9:59

quarterback in the league? Yes. Okay.

10:03

Just slow down. Let me think.

10:06

he's

10:06

right around he's playing right

10:09

around that ten to

10:11

fifteen mark. Okay? ten

10:14

to fifteen. I

10:15

think

10:16

Seguan has been so much better than

10:18

all the other running backs so far this

10:20

year. that that unless you

10:22

say running back see, Jay, there's a difference in

10:24

saying running backs are

10:26

not important because you can approximate or

10:28

running back with another guy. but

10:30

sometimes a guy pops so much over

10:32

the next time that's It's harder to

10:34

approximate them. Like, I need those guys in

10:36

San Francisco Cisco like Dibos Samuel --

10:38

Mhmm. -- that plays a little bit of both

10:40

-- Yeah. --

10:41

receiver running back this ten year. Yep.

10:43

So when

10:44

you start saying, well, Saint

10:47

Qant is this and he's doing better than that. I love

10:49

Saint Qant. I think Saint Qant, I wanted to

10:51

go to a team that can win a championship for him before

10:54

things run out. He run out of gas.

10:56

goes to the top of the

10:58

layers is very

11:00

difficult to pin down

11:02

where he fits in those top. players.

11:06

Certainly, if you add quarterbacks to the mix,

11:08

he's not even he's nowhere near. Leave

11:10

quarterbacks. This is good. It's boring. If you're

11:12

If If Max -- Yeah. -- come on

11:13

now.

11:16

If.

11:16

yeah I mean,

11:18

what Seguan's been able to do with me at

11:20

my car office. You gotta clean out your

11:22

ears, Max. I mean, really, the only cup was

11:24

I mean, he's part of the offensive line the

11:26

way he blocks. Switch John and Taylor, but now

11:28

John and Taylor's hurt. I mean, there's really

11:31

nobody playing better. No. He he look.

11:33

Nobody has positions running back wise. He's

11:35

doing let's say Kwan is doing. There's no question

11:37

about it. I love Kwan Barclay. I

11:39

I think He's powerful. He's low center

11:41

to the ground. He could he's

11:43

shifty. He knows how to jump cut

11:45

all of those sort of things. It just

11:47

ridiculous. He gets a ball out of back

11:49

field. Defense of backs don't

11:51

wanna see him coming around that corner. And

11:53

and so he is

11:55

in offense aligning his dream.

11:58

he understands how to get in and out of

12:00

the holes, all those sort of things. And

12:02

and Damon Woody can speak to this as an

12:04

offensive line. And

12:05

Damon, a guy

12:06

like say, calling Barclay in the backfill for

12:08

you, how much easier it is it for

12:10

you to be able to pin down your

12:12

man when you have a guy like that in

12:14

the backfill?

12:16

Yeah, man. He makes your job

12:18

a lot easier because you don't have to hold

12:20

your blocks as long. I mean, a guy like Big Point

12:22

Barclay so talented.

12:24

He's able to hit those holes in

12:26

and because of his explosiveness, he's

12:28

able to exploit those type of things.

12:30

So You know,

12:31

Safran is obviously, he's

12:33

had a rejuvenation of his

12:36

career and he's

12:38

been great in both the running and passing him

12:40

in hell. He is the giant's offense

12:43

because we know that giants don't have anything

12:45

on the perimeter as far as the wide

12:47

receiver position. So

12:49

State Farm basically is the giant's

12:51

offense. The if you

12:53

were if you were the giants right

12:55

now considering this is the highest Saiwan's

12:58

value has been in a long

13:00

time. Would you trade him? Is the

13:02

right move to trade him and get assets in

13:04

return for him?

13:10

Man, that's I don't think so.

13:12

And the reason I'm gonna say that

13:14

is because it's so important to establish

13:16

a culture. winning

13:19

winning when you've been a losing

13:21

franchise for for some time like the New York

13:23

Times have been, is so

13:25

important to establish a culture. And one thing

13:27

you don't want to do is

13:29

you don't want to lose a lot of room. because

13:31

that guy is one of the main reasons why you're why

13:34

you're sitting in the position that you're

13:36

sitting there. I get that, you

13:38

know, State Farm Barclay Clinical stock is

13:40

probably high right now. But

13:42

at the

13:42

same time, that should be

13:44

Trump

13:45

trying to establish a winning culture

13:47

in your locker room. doesn't that mean

13:49

Damian that when you logically

13:51

play it out, that you gotta sign them. Right? You gotta

13:53

extend them. You gotta give them a big deal because if you're

13:55

not going to trade and when his value is

13:57

high, which I agree with you by the way. And it's

13:59

also hard. Even

13:59

if you get a third round pick or something, that that's

14:02

not gonna be equal value for the kind of

14:04

explosive player that this guy

14:06

is, long as he's healthy, knock wood.

14:09

But

14:09

doesn't that mean also you gotta extend them at that

14:11

point? Otherwise, would keep him for. Right? So you gotta give him the

14:13

contract. And and and though I would do

14:15

this, I have to recognize I would give

14:17

him the contract. Didn't work with Tar

14:19

Gurley. Didn't work with officer McAfee, didn't work with

14:21

Ezekiel Elliott. It doesn't work.

14:23

Right? So so are you saying that you would

14:25

extend Sequan and give him his money?

14:28

No. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying

14:30

that maybe you tag them. You know,

14:32

maybe you tag, you know, do a, you know, tag them

14:34

and trade them. You know, But I

14:36

think you're right. You know, you look at the you

14:38

look at what happened with these running backs after

14:41

their their first contract. You

14:43

know, you're not getting the bang, you know, bang for

14:45

your buck. with these

14:47

big running back contracts. So

14:49

listen, I think the New

14:50

York Giants are going to live in

14:52

a moment right now and St. Humbertley

14:55

is playing his butt off and,

14:57

you know, he's helping them

14:59

establish a culture win in bringing back

15:01

a winning culture there in with

15:03

New York, but you know, I'm

15:05

I'm sure they're thinking we're just gonna

15:07

have we're just gonna let this thing play out right

15:09

now and we'll revisit all that the

15:11

business side wants the season to

15:13

go with. let me ask you this, though.

15:15

What what what is your hesitation

15:18

on

15:18

paying Segua Barclay. Right?

15:20

if

15:21

Seyquhar Barclay never hurt his

15:23

knee and his contract was up,

15:25

would

15:25

you have paid

15:26

him? I

15:30

mean, key. Listen, I still

15:32

would have reservations because look at the

15:34

look at look at these running backs. Look at

15:36

these running backs. Look at Christian McHenry

15:39

right now. Christmas camp right

15:41

now. I mean, he's been hurt twenty

15:43

something games in the last two years.

15:45

He's he's basically broken down.

15:48

What does that you know, you broke it down.

15:50

But what does that have to do with say Qualcomm

15:52

Barclay, though? Because

15:54

they played it for Facebook. This is a

15:56

date they -- that running back position has to wear and

15:58

tear.

15:59

that

15:59

That's what I'm talking about

16:02

here. And so can

16:04

-- is it better to reallocate

16:06

funds to other

16:08

positions that need, other

16:10

positions that we quote value

16:12

more asked the question we

16:14

gotta ask, if he you're gonna pull a boatload

16:16

of money into a running back? As

16:18

great as safe when Barclays pray as great

16:20

as safe when Barclays pray right

16:22

now. Are we gonna

16:23

pull a a boatload of money into the running

16:25

back position? I guess, for me, d

16:27

Wood, like I was explaining to to

16:29

Jay and Max. I

16:31

played with a guy

16:33

named Curtis Morton. And Curtis

16:36

Morton, he has a hall of fame running back. They

16:38

probably had three contracts. I also play

16:40

with a guy named Ward Dunn, who probably went

16:42

through three contracts, Mike Alstead,

16:44

who probably went through three contracts. You you see

16:46

what I'm saying? And so for me,

16:48

but I don't He's he's he's

16:51

he's on the same key. That

16:52

also was a different style of football at

16:55

that time. we're we're in a

16:57

different era right now as far as to how the

16:59

game is playing. And

17:00

so, again, I'm gonna ask, are you

17:02

gonna allocate that much that many

17:05

funds into a position that

17:07

that might not be

17:09

that might not fit into what this

17:11

area is doing right now. That's

17:13

what I'm saying. with with special

17:16

with a special back, like, say, Juan Barkley,

17:18

if he's if he's fully healthy,

17:21

I'm not gonna have hesitation of

17:23

reservation in paying him. if

17:24

he's fully healthy. I didn't take him as a number two

17:26

pick to use four years of him. I took him

17:28

as a number two pick to get at least eight

17:30

years out of

17:32

him. You

17:34

can

17:34

get most of those years pretty cheap, key if

17:37

you you get this rookie deal. I mean, here's the truth

17:39

that I think there should be an exception in the CBA

17:41

for this would because you get

17:43

five years off that if you draft them up

17:45

high. Right? Then you franchise them

17:47

for a couple years. There you get most of the eight years

17:49

and you never have to give them as big

17:51

deal.

17:51

Right. I mean,

17:54

that's

17:54

not a bad that's not a bad mood because you

17:56

think about it. I don't I think off

17:58

the top of my head,

17:59

the I

18:00

don't think that the the tag number is high

18:03

for running backs because how many

18:05

running backs are getting paid? Is that big bucks

18:07

like that? So, you know, that might

18:09

be a move. But, again,

18:11

for me, listen, I'm on State Farm

18:13

Barclays, and I'm I'm happy to tell

18:15

the State Farm Barclays looking

18:17

like Safe Harbor again. But am

18:19

I going to invest four or

18:21

five, you know, four or five years deal?

18:24

And so and so running back that, let's

18:26

be honest, has had

18:29

multiple injuries in

18:32

his career. You

18:33

tell me. Yeah. I

18:35

think I I might have to do it

18:37

because of what you said earlier, though,

18:40

would You're trying to build something. You're trying to establish something.

18:42

The value he gives you at the

18:44

position over everyone else when he's

18:46

on the field is such

18:49

that and also,

18:50

like, it gives you

18:51

something to watch as a Giants fan. Oh,

18:53

it's gonna be certainly fascinating when the

18:56

season is you know, if he

18:58

if he stays the course, certainly

19:00

gonna be fascinating. a and d, what I would

19:02

say, we all notice key u and

19:04

d too. Like, I've

19:06

seen guys that get paid, and when they get paid, they

19:08

check out. Right? Saint Kwan to me is the

19:10

type of guy that if you pay him,

19:12

he's not checking out. It's gonna he's gonna

19:14

turn on it even

19:16

more. You know what? And that that says something to the culture you were

19:18

talking about, d wood?

19:22

Yeah. Listen, there's

19:22

no question about that. I'm

19:24

you know, me personally, I'm just

19:27

loving seeing Saint Juan being Saint Juan

19:29

again. Yeah. You know, like

19:31

that that's I love watching him

19:33

play football because he's one of the most

19:35

talented runners that we have in our

19:37

games. And I'm sure the business side of this is gonna

19:39

work yourself out. Yeah.

19:41

Yeah. I I think I

19:43

know it's it never makes sense, but I

19:45

think you gotta bet. As a giant spin, I wanna

19:47

watch him. I wanna watch him.

19:49

Willie, do do the New York Jetson Zach

19:52

Wilson have an opportunity to do some

19:54

specialist week against the the Miami

19:56

dolphins and Zach, you know, our guest seat in

19:58

practice yesterday got a little ankle

20:00

deal going on, but I'm not worried about that as

20:02

much as I am whether or not they can get the

20:05

game. They

20:07

can they can win this game key.

20:10

Like, listen. They

20:12

just got some young they got

20:14

some young talent

20:16

on this team. I don't know how many people have been

20:18

watching them. You know, they've had the two

20:20

comeback wins on the road, but they

20:22

got young guys that could golf.

20:25

on both sides of the ball. So,

20:27

you know, this is a team. They

20:29

actually stopped hitting both office and

20:31

defense total yard. So

20:34

They're not a slouch. They're

20:36

not a slouch right now. So they got a

20:38

big opportunity against

20:40

Miami dolphins who's the top team in the

20:42

ASC East to make a

20:44

statement. Let's see if they can do

20:46

it. I'm I'm

20:46

with it, actually. Damian Woody. How

20:48

was that? Yep. Damian, where where do you see real quick

20:50

we only got about a minute left. But, Zach Wilson and his

20:53

progression, what he what he needs to improve

20:55

on this weekend? Well, I

20:57

think

20:57

you got I think for Zach, what what

20:59

needs to have is what you did in the

21:01

fourth quarter, which was phenomenal, it

21:04

was terrific. Now you

21:06

gotta consistently do that right

21:08

from

21:08

jump. Don't wait until

21:11

chaos and then start playing your butt

21:13

off. I need

21:13

to see that right from the beginning.

21:16

because for three quarters in that Pittsburgh game, he

21:18

didn't look good at all. Then all of a sudden,

21:20

the fourth quarter of the switch turned

21:22

on, and he looked like one of the top

21:24

quarterbacks in the league. And so if you

21:26

can get that consistency right

21:28

from the beginning with the

21:30

weapons of just terrible office,

21:32

Man, this thing could

21:35

look really good for them. That

21:37

is Damian Woody, ESPN,

21:39

NFLano, two times super bowl

21:41

champion. Thanks to you. Well, if that if that's

21:43

the case and it looks real good for

21:45

him, I have a no return

21:47

policy on receipts. He

21:50

wants me

21:53

to be a pet

21:55

dentist more. He can't help himself.

21:57

I'm not being petty. I'm just saying No.

22:00

You're not gonna say anything like,

22:03

Keith. I'm just saying me,

22:05

are we starting to fight? You

22:07

know, I'm just saying, I have a no

22:09

return policy on my receipts. I

22:11

can't you know, I I'm not taking

22:14

them back. I gotta stick with what I

22:16

believe. Mhmm. Okay?

22:17

And what do you believe?

22:21

Based on what you just said,

22:24

that

22:24

they got real talent. They might get this

22:26

thing going in the right direction. Then

22:28

I'm one of the first receipts that's in

22:30

solid shoe box and he'll be trying to return. That's

22:33

alright. There you go. We'll have another

22:35

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22:37

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22:39

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22:41

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Alright. It's

24:07

time to play take it or shake it, brought to you

24:09

by Granger, Shannon, take it

24:12

away. Alright, gentlemen.

24:12

Let's take some stuff. Let's take some stuff.

24:14

Key, I will start with you.

24:16

Cooper Rush will remain the Dallas Cowboys

24:18

starting quarterback until he

24:20

loses a game. Take it or

24:22

shake it. Shake it. Take it. Take

24:25

it. Take it. It

24:27

doesn't matter. He's there until that Prescott

24:29

can play again. And I

24:31

understand that, you know, it it's a good story.

24:34

It's a good conversation. And this

24:36

this is exactly what mister Jerry Jones

24:38

wanted. That's why he said

24:41

hey, I

24:41

hope there's a quarterback controversy.

24:44

Guess what? We're having that

24:46

conversation, but we all know

24:48

that as Zach pressed Scott's team, is

24:50

his job. Whenever

24:52

he's ready to come back, he'll get right back

24:54

underneath the center. Actually, I'll

24:55

take it because I actually think the timeline

24:57

will work out perfectly for deck press

24:59

Scott, the comeback Rush to lose a game. They will

25:01

beat the Rams, then they will lose at

25:03

the Eagles, and then you will see

25:06

Jack Prescott come back in the

25:08

first game against Detroit at home for the

25:10

Cowboys. So I'll take it. I'm gonna take

25:13

it. Hold on. because it loses

25:15

first game. I will I will know it. I will shake it because

25:17

I believe Key is probably right, although you

25:19

may also be right in which case you take it. My

25:21

point is this, if I ran the

25:23

zoo, man,

25:24

a know we're winning,

25:26

we're not touching it. And once

25:28

we lose, we could

25:29

touch it, but I'm not touching it. If Cooper

25:31

Rush beats the Rams, then

25:33

beats Eagles, you want me take out against the trade hell, no.

25:35

But they will. I

25:36

think he's not wrong. They will. Jay and Jay, if

25:38

if it works out to what you say, fine. I

25:40

love Maxx. If this was the second half

25:43

the season, and we were week twelve

25:46

or eleven. Then you leave it alone, and then

25:48

he will roll it. Then

25:50

I

25:50

might have to say

25:52

Is it tight? Yeah. Context

25:54

matters. Gotcha. Speaking

25:57

of

25:57

the Dallas Cowboys, the NFL East

25:59

will

25:59

have three teams make the

26:02

playoffs this year. Take

26:04

him a shake and keep. Shake.

26:07

Shake. This is it. You

26:09

want a slow I know that NFC

26:11

e's probably based on record of is

26:13

the best conference, a best

26:16

division in football based on a record, but

26:18

it's not the best teams. You got the

26:20

Dallas Cowboys

26:20

in the Philadelphia Eagles. You got

26:22

a three in one New York Giants team. They

26:24

gotta win how they win and how ever they win and they

26:26

win and that's all they really matters that you're

26:29

winning. but no. They're

26:30

not no. Not at all.

26:32

So the giants

26:33

are three in one right now.

26:36

I

26:36

mean, our next three games at packers. Raven's

26:38

at home at Jaguar's. We're about to come out of this whole

26:40

thing, three and four. Like, we are. Like, that's

26:42

the reality of it. Like, maybe

26:44

I don't know. I think probably get a win where you expect a win. Man, you

26:46

get you you said they get made loose three

26:49

straight? Yeah.

26:50

Yeah. I think they'll

26:51

lose their home to the Ravens. What if

26:53

they win one of

26:54

those games? And I think they're a jugs

26:56

are a different team. Yeah.

26:58

I don't think they all jaguar, that's a

27:00

cornflip for me. Yeah. They're a good cornflip and

27:02

a good cornflip. Okay. Yeah. I'm with

27:05

it. Mhmm. I will shake it. Ain't

27:07

no three teams coming out of the n f c's. You

27:09

know, the two teams could come out of the

27:11

east or one, but three incoming. I'm just

27:13

being realistic. Eagles gonna

27:15

cobble. maybe the cowboys. I'm not sure

27:17

about the cowboys. We'll see Max. Yeah. You

27:19

go with the giant stuff stuff. So it's not the that's

27:21

the objective of it. It's not the giant stuff. I'm telling

27:23

you this team is functioning with

27:25

Cooper Rush. If that comes back, I

27:27

don't know if it functions the same way we

27:29

shall see. You know what that is, Keith?

27:32

not getting into it. Hey, Shannon. You know you

27:34

know what? Key. That's the max

27:36

Kellerman set up for you. I just said Shannon.

27:38

I'm dealing with

27:40

it's all gonna go up and going down. What I

27:42

do? Oh, it's a setup of all setups.

27:44

It's got smart. Gotcha.

27:46

She's like spent

27:49

too much damn time at first take is what it is.

27:51

It doesn't matter.

27:54

Go ahead, Shannon. Alright.

27:56

Matt Ryan has been the most disappointing quarterback so far

27:59

this season. Key, take it or

28:01

shake it.

28:03

Shake it.

28:06

Shake it. Shake it. Shake it. Yeah.

28:08

I wouldn't necessarily say he's been

28:10

the most disappointing. Well,

28:12

I guess if I had high hopes for him, but

28:14

I had high hopes for the team. I thought

28:16

they would be better than where

28:18

they are right now.

28:20

but I also had high hopes for Carson wins

28:23

going over -- What? -- and Matt I

28:25

mean, Jay, I had

28:26

high hopes for Carson wins

28:29

going over with Ram Rivera in

28:31

a defense. I just thought

28:33

that this would have been different

28:35

for him. So,

28:36

you know, I'm gonna give it to Carson once I ain't

28:38

give it, oh, god. You just show me the video.

28:41

I'm a I'm a every I'm a give

28:43

it to Carson. for those who are listening

28:45

on the radio that you guys got

28:47

snatched down by one arm, by the

28:49

defender of Matt Ryan

28:51

Diazak. As I was saying, I'm gonna

28:53

give it to Carson Yeah. The defender was ready

28:55

to give it to Carson West. That's that's the

28:57

problem. I never thought I never

28:59

thought I'll ever hear you utter

29:01

the words. High hopes and Carson

29:03

went in the same sentence together. Man,

29:06

I'm a guy. I'm a guy. Jay,

29:08

I give people the benefit of a doubt. No matter

29:10

what, until they show me something to it. Unless it's

29:13

to it. man,

29:13

I get to listen to the dial.

29:15

Y'all want me. Y'all want me to

29:17

put tour in the in the damn Miami hall

29:20

of fame. in the in Come on.

29:22

It's just Jay. It's

29:24

just me. I'm the reasonable one. Yes.

29:26

I split the difference. I say he's better than

29:28

get some credit for, but not as good as Jay thinks. I was shaking

29:30

at Matt Ryan, not the most disappointing quarterback,

29:32

and that takes a tough one to beat. I

29:34

would probably

29:35

say baker Mayfield.

29:37

Most disappointing quarterback. Eleven

29:40

points lower in QBR.

29:43

Eleven

29:43

points lower than Justin Fields.

29:45

Oh. You have been but he showed you

29:47

some moxie. What? He showed you some

29:49

moxie into one game. What game? The click?

29:51

Was it the cleeping You you can't

29:53

remember that lady. Remember, Hazi. That's

29:55

what I'm talking about. He showed something in

29:57

one of them games. I don't remember exactly what game

29:59

it was,

29:59

but he you know, he was

30:02

like, yeah. I might

30:02

have been cleaning the game, but I was like a bloody guy. Come on. It's

30:04

it's Baker Mayfield wins us by a

30:07

mile. And I'm looking at a list to

30:08

see if I can come up with anyone better

30:11

than because James wants to meet with his injured. So, you

30:13

know No. James wants to ball up

30:15

before he wouldn't hurt. He

30:17

didn't call. I got one. I

30:19

got one better than both of them. Kylor

30:21

Murray. Kylor

30:23

Murray is the most disappointing quarterback

30:26

because Kylor Murray just

30:28

got paid as an elite

30:30

quarterback. Right? This was not like, hey,

30:32

maybe you can do something or, hey,

30:34

can the remains of Matt Ryan do

30:37

something. This was young quarterback in his prime,

30:39

throwing handoffs, playing the way everyone

30:41

wishes Lamar could put all this kind of

30:44

stuff No. Can he stay healthy enough to win? He is

30:46

he an elite quarterback? because it so he could just

30:48

got paid. Alright.

30:50

He's an elite. running back

30:52

right now for Arizona. I can't I say he's

30:54

the most disappointing guy so far. Most

30:57

Yeah. He you know. Yeah. A

30:59

lot of Kyle and Murray issues

31:02

And and I

31:02

know Jake, don't say a word.

31:05

In my

31:05

opinion, it has

31:08

something to do with his size.

31:11

those

31:11

throwing lanes aren't there.

31:13

Things aren't opening up. He's gotta

31:15

always be out of the pocket

31:17

running around. It'd be it's almost

31:20

like Dan Orlowski was

31:21

saying yesterday on NFL live with

31:24

us, it's recess.

31:25

You go out there and just play.

31:27

Just do what you need to do. because

31:29

Cliff Kingsbury doesn't have a

31:31

real

31:31

plan in place to help him out. It is

31:33

not all about the Audrey Hopkins. It's not in

31:36

the lineup.

31:37

this offense

31:39

does not suit his

31:40

skill set in the national football

31:43

league the way it's supposed to, if he

31:45

was in the Seattle offense

31:47

or he was in something a little more had

31:49

a large Kyle Shanahan in

31:52

in San Francisco, it

31:53

would do him a million

31:56

wonders. I hear

31:57

you. Matt Ryan is old.

31:59

Carson went saying good, but

32:02

Kyler Murray is supposed to be

32:04

elite, and he's not. I

32:06

understand. I

32:06

get it. He's running around and who didn't he

32:08

like, and they paid him two hundred million dollars looking

32:10

like a running back. hundred percent.

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33:44

what are you saying something? Hey, June.

33:45

You're right. You drink?

33:48

No.

33:48

What? What? Are you a country music singer?

33:50

What's going on? Did you hear this in your

33:52

gourmet dog food store? He was telling

33:55

a story for, off Mike,

33:57

about

33:57

what he feeds. Is this dog? It's better than

33:59

Yates? This is our

33:59

dog. I mean, when I when I went to a

34:02

restaurant with Yates. Yates is like this. Yeah. just

34:04

telling you Yates is, like, got a limited

34:06

menu over there. Maybe a limited menu. No. I just was asked to

34:08

j a minute. I just was asked to j a little while.

34:11

feet and his feet and his dog. And what he

34:13

fed his dog, and and he was just telling

34:15

me dog food. And I'd said, gourmet dog

34:17

food, or are you giving him, like,

34:19

canned dog food. Like, what are you giving

34:22

them? And and so yes. I mean, I

34:24

said, well, I give my

34:26

dog chicken. I

34:26

go to we get we tend

34:28

to

34:28

get a bag of chicken, frozen

34:29

chicken breast from either Trader Joe's

34:32

or Costco every now

34:34

and

34:34

every now and near then.

34:36

I'll go

34:36

to a place called Californian chicken cafe here in LA,

34:38

which is, oh my god. Right? So I went

34:40

the other day. I got home from work. Uh-huh. And

34:44

And, you know, I broke down the chicken. But as I was breaking it down,

34:46

I was eating it. Yeah. Of course.

34:48

You know what? When

34:50

your dog is eating your

34:53

dog is eating stuff that you're like, this is good. I wanna get a stick. sitting there in the

34:55

kitchen sitting on the rug in the kitchen

34:57

looking up in me, like,

34:59

looking like, dude. Like, come on. I

35:01

saw you get our pants, but they help you do

35:04

it. And so we we tend

35:06

to boil the chicken. We put

35:08

frozen

35:08

peas and carrots, and we mix it up

35:10

in we break it down and we put it in the deep freezer so we don't

35:12

have to keep doing it over time. You know, we can

35:14

break it out and put a little

35:16

bit

35:17

of the the the

35:19

broth

35:19

from the chicken that we boil, we put it

35:22

on top, and we mix a little

35:24

bit of dog food, not a lot,

35:26

just enough so they could get the the nutrition that they

35:28

need in the dog food. That's all. And

35:30

so I sent you if you see, Jay, I just

35:32

sent you

35:34

a link to

35:34

a gourmet tofu. There there's and and you said you live

35:36

on East Coast. No. If you go in some

35:39

of your grocery stores, I'm

35:40

sure there's a section.

35:43

They got

35:43

they really got the farmer's dog, really. Like,

35:45

the farmer's market version for the dog.

35:47

They got

35:48

a whole market for the dog. Yeah. laid

35:50

in. LA. Something not problem.

35:52

Does your dog

35:55

have a spiritual

35:59

adviser? means what I wish approach to pet food. No. My

36:02

dogs I've given my

36:04

dogs at at times. I've

36:06

steamed halibut. Oh, but

36:07

Yeah. Steve Halliburton. You've

36:10

taken the time to prepare

36:12

and seen Halliburton? Dean

36:14

Halliburton. Yes. Dean didn't gave it

36:16

to him. See, I'm mixed with white rice.

36:18

Nine. You're not doing it? They're not worth it.

36:20

Okay? You're you and

36:22

your

36:23

dogs be doing. I

36:25

don't know. Talibin white rice. Forget about yay. Your dog eats better than

36:27

I do. I have some friends, fly

36:29

a private jet to

36:32

their dogs up and bring them back to California and

36:34

what nothing on the plane with the

36:36

dogs. God. This is out

36:37

of control. What? I know.

36:39

Right? Listen to Kishanji. We'll have

36:41

Max live. Everywhere you are.

36:44

Download the ESPN app. Tap

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36:48

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36:51

Everywhere you are.

36:54

Get out the

36:58

way. Let's

36:58

use I used to wake up to

37:00

this song. That was

37:01

remember those old alarm o'clock.

37:03

You put the c d in key? The alarm

37:05

clock that did what? You had the c d

37:07

in the alarm clock, and it will start to play

37:09

the song. Yeah. woke up. Everything all

37:11

in one. Yeah. But this would jump me out of bed. It did. That's why I did

37:13

it. But why would you ever just wanna wake up in

37:15

a panic? Like, I don't wanna I don't wanna jump

37:17

right out of bed. I don't wanna

37:20

linger. Right? when I was hosting around the horn, I had an apartment in

37:22

DC. I really still lived in New York, but I stayed

37:24

down at DC half the week, and I would

37:26

have my alarm right next to the bed. Boom.

37:28

Jump right out

37:30

of bed. That's right.

37:30

Yeah. They would play this in the stadiums. Like, when Brandon

37:32

Jacobs was playing for the giants and

37:34

he'd run somebody over. Yeah. They

37:37

play this, you know, like, all stop. Unless somebody

37:39

over the road. Did did did it get

37:41

out the way? Truckstick,

37:43

man. You

37:44

know? Also, Scott ran over. That's Well,

37:47

you're gonna tell me. Really? Kishaw

37:49

j will have access ESPN radio. We are

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now on ESPN new, and we're on the

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ESPN a pen app. Right in your pocket. You didn't even know it. Click

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and listen live. Take us with you wherever

37:59

you go. So The Golden

38:01

State Warriors are reviewing Dreymont

38:04

Green's altercation with Jordan

38:06

pool. Dreymont threw

38:07

a punch reportedly

38:10

at

38:10

his teammate, Jordan Poole. At

38:12

practice on Wednesday, that's yesterday. The

38:14

two players had been verbally going at

38:17

it. And then there was some pushing, then that

38:19

escalated and green dream

38:21

on took a swing.

38:22

But it just takes a swing

38:25

to make with pool sorta like it. Yeah. Team

38:28

officials are reviewing the episode. Why do you like

38:30

it? Because that that

38:31

I just you know, whoever whatever

38:33

I just like the fact

38:36

that they could do

38:38

all

38:38

of this to still coexist at the same time

38:40

because guess what? They got to play together.

38:42

they got to give us same planes. They got to be sitting in the same meeting rooms. They got to

38:44

eat. In the in the training room together, they got

38:46

to see each other all the way around. I

38:48

mean, it happens in professional sports

38:52

certain times, scuffles do happen and people don't even know that

38:54

they happen because nobody says anything. I mean, I got

38:56

it to a fight one of my teammates on

39:00

the plane. you know, we thirty thousand feet in

39:02

air in or getting ready, actually,

39:04

we we hadn't taken off yet, but I

39:06

get into a get into a scrap

39:08

with him. on the on

39:10

the tarmac, you know, after one of our

39:12

games just because it

39:14

happens. But, you know, I felt like

39:16

I got better end up. In any

39:18

way, so I wouldn't worry about that. But I mean, listen, by the way, fights aren't the end of the world, but the warriors

39:20

are considering disciplinary action

39:22

against Draymond for escalating the

39:26

practice encounter. Okay. See, the the the fight to

39:28

me, that's that's nothing, man. Like, that that'll be

39:31

that it happens all the time in professional sports.

39:33

It happens when you have two compared

39:36

to people. I do like this move, though, for Jordan pool, though, because

39:38

I I've known there's been a history for

39:40

Draymond always to be popping off at

39:42

the mouth. Right? and look Steve

39:44

Kerr's addressed it. Steph

39:46

Curry's talked about it. This is who

39:48

Draymond is. I've heard Bob Myers say to

39:50

multiple young players. Don't let this stuff get

39:52

under your skin. he's always

39:54

talking. Right? But for Jordan pool,

39:56

it gets to a certain point where, you know, at the end of day,

39:58

you won't respect me, man. Like, I'm putting up

39:59

nineteen points of game. I'm I know

40:02

who I am and when I bring to the table. So good for

40:04

Jordan pool drawing a line in the

40:06

sand saying, oh, like and he

40:08

got drymont

40:10

to react. Should

40:10

that lead to a

40:12

suspension for Draymond? Jay?

40:13

Draymond, Pool, and

40:16

Wiggans

40:16

are all eligible for contract

40:20

extensions. Mhmm. At the end of the year. Right? So, Trey, for

40:22

a max contract extension. We can't do

40:24

it. Hundred and sixty seven million. It

40:26

take up to eight weeks. How old is he?

40:29

He's thirty two. Thirty two. So but does the max

40:31

contract extension You can't do it, but it would take

40:33

him till age thirty seven. Think

40:36

you pay him on the back end if for being a good

40:38

guy, being my guy, and you're

40:40

gonna give you when you win

40:42

championships, whether it's magic Johnson, the

40:44

late Kobe Bryant, whoever Michael, whoever

40:46

it is, on the back end of

40:48

the deal, they just you know, take care of it a little

40:50

bit. Yeah. Take care. I got forty

40:52

million for you. Made me a

40:54

billion dollars. I got forty But there's if there was no salary cap, that would

40:56

be one thing, but there's a salary cap and a luxury

40:58

tax. I'm sure Jacob would pay the

41:00

luxury tax. No problem to do what you're

41:02

saying, Keith. But with a

41:04

cap, that may affect,

41:06

you know, what flexibility of what you

41:08

can do. Do you think do you

41:10

think you think Jay, that that has something to do

41:12

with it. That I'm not saying, well, you know, it's

41:14

just but, like, if everyone can't get

41:17

paid or they're not sure, Does that

41:19

feed into the whole thing where Jordan fool's like, damn it, you're gonna respect me.

41:21

As you said, I averaged nineteen a game. Andrey is

41:23

sitting there going time

41:26

out. I'm the real Steph's crime partner for

41:28

four championships. Right? Like, is that is

41:30

that lingering underneath is that is

41:33

that lurking underneath? think it's a thing with

41:35

with Draymond and the team sure. For sure. Now whether that

41:37

directly translates to Jordan pool or not, I

41:39

don't know, but Jordan pool could just be a byproduct

41:42

of it. Right?

41:44

But at the end of

41:45

day key, this organization needs to

41:47

make decisions in the best

41:49

long term interest Now I get all the things that

41:51

Draymond brings to the table, the heart, the soul, the

41:54

passion, defensively. But

41:56

is that worth a

41:57

max contract not

42:00

when

42:00

you got stuff making forty forty eight million dollars a year. You

42:02

got Clay, who his contract expires

42:04

after next year, he's talking about

42:07

an extension. You have Wiseman who

42:08

is bringing a lot of the same degree. contract

42:11

expires already? Yeah, Doug. Yeah,

42:13

man. Or he can opt dollars on

42:15

expiration date two thousand twenty

42:17

four. He's gonna looking for an extension coming up,

42:19

Keith. So then you got Jordan pool --

42:20

And then you got -- wiggum, commingus,

42:22

he pans out. commingus, he lives

42:25

a little younger. you have to make

42:27

some decisions Are a movement? And, yeah, we may lose a little bit of

42:29

heart, but if somebody's gonna get treatment on a max

42:32

deal, go out in the market and get a

42:34

big dog,

42:34

marketing did a big dog go

42:36

get

42:36

your money. But see, I I gotta I I see. I

42:38

I don't know. I just look at it differently.

42:40

I'm looking at him, at

42:42

him Steph, in

42:45

whoever else, Clay, four years

42:48

from now, they could

42:50

still

42:51

make some runs but after that

42:53

four years, I I don't I understand Steph is a shooter,

42:55

but he's getting older. He's

42:57

not getting younger. Clay

42:59

has had injuries. He's getting older. So I'm

43:02

willing to write this thing out

43:04

for the next four years. And then eventually,

43:06

they're gonna fall off

43:08

the books. And

43:08

once they follow the books, then I'll worry about reloading

43:10

at that time. Look, he's already

43:12

playing this year on his deal. So

43:15

if they wanted to do a contract extension, they

43:17

would have done it or on the verge of doing it. Right?

43:19

I mean, they just want a championship.

43:22

So

43:22

playing out this year, best chance to run it

43:24

back and then might they We might we might

43:26

go to sleep and wake up in the morning. His deal might get

43:28

done. I mean, you know how that goes. He would wake up and

43:31

Myers a lot of credit it is not easy. Think of how

43:33

they thread this needle. They had one down

43:35

year because of injury and in that time

43:37

they pick up Kaminga and

43:40

Wiseman Right? They they bring a long pool.

43:42

They still got dray clay and

43:44

stuff. Moses Moody's and also misleading.

43:47

They have to now

43:50

figure out how to keep this all

43:52

together, how to be flexible, how

43:54

to try to get younger as teams do,

43:56

or if they don't want just one dynasty

43:58

in that it, but they wanna

44:00

keep this going the way the truly great franchises do heading into

44:02

the future. Max, there's a

44:04

part of me that really believes

44:08

that this

44:08

will be the last year or that dream on dream will play for the Golden State

44:10

boys. How do you place a guy like -- Yeah.

44:12

-- well, you don't but you you're gonna

44:15

have to. So, I mean,

44:16

there were also times during the playoffs guys

44:18

where he was a liability on the

44:20

court off, principally. Now once I know what he brings

44:22

to the table defensively key, I

44:24

know how certain foul, certain plays. Right? And there's a

44:26

balance there. How he might have

44:28

to pay him. Yeah. Considering the other

44:30

pivotal young pieces on your team, It's

44:33

a

44:33

futures market in the NBA, man. You got a plan

44:36

for where you're gonna be two years from now.

44:38

Just not, you know, on Dream on Green

44:40

for this year. I don't I don't see

44:42

it

44:42

happen. By the

44:43

way, you see Victor, one tell me his

44:46

name again. One by yama. One by yama.

44:48

One by yama. Just calling Victor.

44:50

Everyone's gonna be taking his agent. His yeah. Everyone's

44:52

be taking from unavoidable. Seven four and moves like that and

44:54

sturdy kind of I saw I saw the

44:56

highlight here at three the

44:58

other day. He was

45:00

like, his agent says there's no plans

45:02

to shut him down until the

45:04

draft. I mean, like, I guess

45:06

that, like, he's he's he doesn't

45:08

give you the same sense of Chegg homegrown where it's

45:10

like, uh-oh, a strong breeze. You

45:12

know? He looks sturdy.

45:14

Now I'm

45:14

like, hey, he's look, between him,

45:17

He's gonna

45:17

get a lot of hype. I get

45:19

it.

45:19

Please do not sleep on

45:21

Scoot Henderson. Please do not

45:23

sleep on this young guard. Now, this

45:25

do And when yama, it it crazy special. And Keith, that's what

45:27

I'm talking about. Hey, what's a what a seven foot four guy

45:29

and a six foot two guy are in the same draft. Tell

45:31

tell me about it. Do you have any experience that

45:33

ever happened? On these skis. Exactly. Schools

45:36

going too. Schools going too. I

45:38

got a foot four guy from overseas

45:40

versus six foot two guys from the

45:42

from this country. Well, what year

45:44

was that? Yeah.

45:45

My ear. Corner No. It was a

45:47

seven it was a seven foot four guy from overseas

45:49

and A66 to three quarter guy

45:51

from here. 0630

45:52

that's 63I

45:54

forgot about that. 6363 Yeah. How concerned

45:57

should the Bronco's be? With

45:59

Russell Wilson's slow start,

46:02

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46:02

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