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the way, there are people supporting me on my Emmitt

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Smith moment, just so people are aware.

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Oh, your wife called that? Right? No,

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she didn't actually. She didn't say anything. As a matter of fact, I

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texted it to her. I'm like, did you see what happened? No response.

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So maybe she's not supporting me. So Emmitt

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Smith was great with us. You can go back

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on the ESPN app and listen to our podcast

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as he was phenomenal with us. And as he was walking

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out,

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I went to give him a handshake and he went to give the

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fist bump and it was a weird exchange. And there's a lot

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of people tweeting at me at Evco Radio, EVCO

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Radio in the Dr. Pepper inbox

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that I did the more professional thing. I went for a handshake

1:01

and I was trying to be a true professional. But

1:03

it's Emmitt Smith. You should have stood up.

1:06

Exactly. That would be taking

1:08

professionalism to another level. You were

1:10

already standing though because we did take a group

1:12

shot just moments before that

1:14

happened. Oh my God. So I don't understand

1:17

why you stood up, took a picture,

1:19

then sat back down to shake the man's hand. That

1:22

made no sense. I

1:25

don't get it. I mean, in your mind,

1:27

how did you see that going? Let

1:29

me sit down so I look more professional

1:32

now that he's on his way out of the studio after

1:34

I got up and totally fanboyed

1:36

out and took a picture with him. That's such an awful shot

1:39

of

1:39

me too. As you can see on the television side, if you're

1:41

joining us via that medium, they just had an up

1:44

close photo of Evan's face after the

1:46

botch interaction and it just said pain

1:47

next to it. Yeah,

1:50

that was rough. That was rough. I'm

1:52

feeling secondhand embarrassment on behalf of the show. Oh,

1:55

and then we did this. And then I did the Arthur Smith

1:57

on the sidelines. It's been quite the

1:59

day. for you. That is a lot

2:02

of chins I have on that shot. Man

2:04

oh man. All right anyway, so

2:06

there were a lot of reports over this weekend that

2:09

Kirk Cousins is staying.

2:11

That Kirk Cousins is not going to wave his

2:13

no trade clause. On the final year

2:15

of his deal, Minnesota wins yesterday. They beat

2:17

the Chicago Bears. Justin

2:19

Fields gets hurt in this game for the Bears.

2:22

The Vikings win 1913. Cousins was 21

2:25

of 31, 181 and a touchdown.

2:28

But Cece, we need you to translate

2:31

something here. What's up? When we hear the

2:33

reports that Kirk Cousins is not going

2:35

to wave his no trade clause, does that

2:37

just mean an offer hasn't come his way that

2:39

he might get? That's all it means. That's all it means because it says

2:42

barring anything unforeseen or

2:44

changing circumstances. Anytime you see

2:46

language like that in a definitive statement,

2:49

it lets you know that it's not definitive at all.

2:51

Right Smalls? Like there's an exception somewhere. This is

2:53

a fluid situation. Stephen A always says this

2:55

is fluid. Okay this is fluid. This

2:58

is subject to change and we know

3:00

Kirk Cousins is all about his money. If there's

3:02

a team out there that's going to give him his fully

3:04

guaranteed bag at the kind of money that he's

3:06

looking for on the AAV of a deal, then

3:09

he's absolutely going to wave his no trade

3:11

clause. The question is, is there a

3:13

team out there desperate enough to upgrade the

3:15

quarterback position, willing to make that big

3:17

of a swing, pay Kirk his money plus

3:19

give up the draft picks that it would take to get it from Minnesota?

3:22

I don't know that it exists.

3:25

The Atlanta Falcons should be on the phone right now. That

3:27

should be the team but I digress. But

3:29

I think that's, are there others? I think that's

3:32

the, well here's the thing, I think that's

3:34

what the statement is saying. Because

3:36

there aren't teams out here, let

3:38

me control the narrative. Let me go ahead and

3:40

let folks know this is where I'm at.

3:43

I want to stay in Minnesota because my family

3:45

is comfortable and finish out the season. I

3:47

don't want to move mid-year. What he's

3:49

really trying to get ahead of is nobody giving him

3:51

the kind of offer or giving Minnesota the kind of

3:54

offer that's going to change the status quo in terms

3:56

of who's on the center for the Vikings. But it's a double

3:58

whammy though so it's a team. team like Atlanta,

4:01

I've thrown out Tennessee. I do wonder

4:03

if Tennessee is maybe too far gone now to even

4:05

try to make this move without well. Jacksonville's

4:07

playing. Houston's been excellent. CJ Stroud

4:10

leading them to another victory yesterday. Now, Indy

4:12

obviously is in a different circumstance. Gardner Minshew

4:14

did not have a great performance. Anthony Richardson could be out

4:16

for the season. I know there's a team that you really

4:18

want to throw out there, so go ahead and throw it out there. No,

4:21

I don't think it makes sense for the Pats. I don't think they can come back from

4:23

this in terms of the postseason. And am I ready?

4:25

Is that the only team that you're thinking?

4:27

Is there another team? What do you think? Oh,

4:29

no. Tennessee was the team I thought. I

4:32

don't know that they can come back from this right now. I mean,

4:34

he's clearly better than what they have. I

4:36

think that's obvious.

4:37

Let's go back to the Patriots for a second. Do you think if you

4:39

were to bring Kirk Cousins that it could maybe infuse

4:42

the Patriots with a bit of life? I

4:44

think if you could bring in me over back, you would

4:46

have infused them with life. I mean, look at my

4:48

hand-eye coordination that I have at that quarterback

4:51

position today. But no, I think that

4:53

you have to look at this because based

4:55

on what Cece just said and the translation of the

4:57

reports, there's

4:59

not a place I want to go to that's willing to guarantee

5:02

me enough years. If you're in New England,

5:04

if you're Tennessee, are you willing to guarantee multiple

5:06

years versus just taking your shot in the draft?

5:09

Now, is he a bridge quarterback? Sure. Do

5:11

I guarantee him this year and next year? Do

5:13

I give him a one-year extension? Yeah,

5:16

but I don't think he would take a one-year extension. You've got

5:18

to get at least two or three because there is going to be

5:20

a team that will give him a two or three year deal. He's

5:22

still good enough for that. No doubt. And

5:25

is probably the team now because

5:27

they're middle of the draft, good

5:29

enough now, could still win the division.

5:32

They may have a coach on a hot seat. Yeah.

5:35

And they probably have guys that you can

5:37

give up. None of us think Desmond

5:40

Ritter is that good, but he's fine for the rest of the

5:42

season from Minnesota if that's going to

5:44

be part of the deal. So that's

5:47

the one that makes the sense. I think

5:49

because if you put Kirk Cousins on that team,

5:51

Cece, Anya Bijan-Robinson, Drake

5:53

London, Kyle Pitts, all of a sudden, you're looking

5:55

at it like, okay, they may have made some noise

5:58

here. Yeah, I would look at them as a contender in the...

5:59

in the NFC South. I'm not sold on

6:02

Tampa and we saw yesterday we have

6:04

good reason not to be sold on Tampa based

6:06

on how Baker Mayfield and that offense spit

6:08

the bit but in looking at that game

6:10

yesterday between the Bears and the Vikings and that was

6:13

a god-awful football game to watch. Kirk

6:16

Cousins ain't the only quarterback that should have been talked

6:18

about in trades leading

6:20

into this past Sunday. I

6:22

said it two weeks ago after Justin

6:25

Fields had a great game against

6:27

the Washington commanders in a huge

6:30

Thursday night football win. The

6:33

Chicago Bears should have been fielding

6:35

calls, no pun intended, to trade

6:37

Justin Fields because his value

6:39

would never be higher to the franchise and

6:42

Ev what was one of the reasons why I said they should

6:44

do it sooner rather than later. I was

6:46

worried that Justin Fields could get hurt and

6:49

now that concern has materialized

6:52

to Justin Fields dealing with a

6:54

thumb injury in the reports out there

6:56

by Adam Schefter and Jay Glazer and others is

6:59

that there is a dislocation of his

7:01

thumb even though there are no broken bones

7:03

the x-rays were negative they've got to do an MRI because

7:05

they're worried about the ligaments in the thumb. How long does

7:08

that take? If you're

7:10

a quarterback or if you're a defensive

7:12

lineman? If you're a defensive lineman it doesn't

7:14

matter. For him not you. But

7:17

if you're a quarterback it's gonna take some time. Everything

7:19

is done with your

7:22

hands as a quarterback like taking a snap

7:25

as a quarterback being under center being in the shotgun.

7:27

Falling to the ground. Catching the ball, falling to the ground.

7:29

All of those exactly everything

7:31

you relied on your heads for everything and

7:34

so Justin Fields and let's also

7:36

keep clear this one thing he went like he was playing

7:39

great against Minnesota yesterday either. Justin

7:41

Fields was struggling I mean think about it

7:43

DJ Moore

7:45

came into that game with the prior

7:47

two games had it combined 16 catches

7:49

for 361 yards and four touchdowns. Justin

7:52

Fields only targeted DJ Moore once

7:55

and Justin Fields was knocked out of the game in the third

7:57

quarter. What the hell is going on?

8:00

Like what the hell was happening with your offense? What

8:02

were you looking at if you adjusted fields as

8:04

to why you wouldn't throw the ball to number two? I

8:06

don't care if he's double or triple covered. You throw

8:08

it up to that guy because good things happen when you do But

8:10

I digress my point is they

8:13

were better off moving off of Justin Fields

8:15

sooner rather than later Because Justin Fields

8:17

wasn't gonna be the future for this team. Anyway,

8:20

he just wasn't so walk So let's how

8:22

many games do we want to assume here or potentially

8:24

assume

8:25

three four? I mean, how long is this?

8:27

That's the thing you just don't

8:30

know there's a reason I'm asked My point

8:32

is this you don't know how long it is

8:34

before he's back and able to play. Okay,

8:37

so let's do something Okay,

8:39

the number of games he's gonna be playing this

8:41

year is then going to be lowered obviously

8:43

It's not going to now be 17 No, when

8:46

you look at his team's win-loss and I'm not

8:48

putting this all on him But when you look at his team's win-loss

8:50

with him in the lineup, it is going to be horrific

8:53

by the end of the season Absolutely horrific

8:56

when you talk the totality of it the Carolina

8:58

Panthers are awful this year The

9:00

Carolina Panthers pick this year goes right to

9:03

the Chicago Bears The Chicago Bears pick is

9:05

kept by the Chicago Bears right now The

9:07

Chicago Bears have the first and second pick

9:09

in the NFL Draft When you don't

9:11

win games like they don't there is literally

9:14

no excuse to not roll the dice and take a quarterback

9:16

the Quarterbacks were seen this year and Caleb Williams and

9:19

Drake May are so good and Michael

9:21

Pinnock's junior and Michael Pennick So where do

9:23

you want to go?

9:24

They're going to take one of those two

9:26

Justin Fields Unfortunately for him his days

9:28

are numbered as a starting quarterback with

9:31

the Chicago Bears at least a full-time starter Maybe

9:33

starts next year and becomes the bridge guy. I don't know.

9:35

Here's where CC looks good on this amongst

9:38

other reasons But here's where you look good on this now

9:41

with a broken thumb or whatever a banged up

9:43

Whatever it is. Yeah, who's trading for him? Nobody

9:46

like it's for nobody I'd

9:48

rather have him the Mac but not a hurt version.

9:51

Nobody's gonna trade for him. And here's the other thing

9:54

We didn't see him stay healthy in each

9:56

of his first two years. And I said that

9:58

that was a concern

9:59

And that's going to be something that other teams think about

10:02

if they're looking at Justin Fields as a potential

10:05

option for them moving forward.

10:07

Now with this latest injury, that

10:09

just adds more fodder to the critics

10:12

for Justin Fields and saying, this is why

10:14

he's not a franchise guy. This is why

10:16

he's not worth a premium pick if you are considering

10:18

trading for him because the guy can't stay healthy.

10:21

So on top of the questions on whether

10:23

or not he can play the position at a high level, there's

10:25

the question of, can this guy actually

10:27

stay healthy through a 17 game regular season? If

10:29

you're the Bears, you could have circumvented all of that

10:32

by trying to move on from Super rather than later. There's

10:34

somebody that's willing to give him the benefit of the doubt

10:37

based on the first two years. You could

10:39

say, oh, well, his rookie year, he wasn't the starter week

10:41

one. So him not playing all the games makes sense.

10:43

Oh, last year might've been an outlier injury.

10:46

Okay. Those things are fine. You can't explain

10:49

away why he hasn't played

10:51

a full season and he's been in the league three

10:53

years. And so that's the risk that

10:55

the Bears have

10:57

run. And that's the position that they find themselves

10:59

in now with Justin Fields. Now, I don't know if he's going to miss

11:02

time or not. We don't know. Okay. So

11:04

we're just speculate hypotheticals, but if you can't grip

11:06

the football, it's probably going to be

11:08

hard for you to play quarterback. And that was the situation

11:11

yesterday. So I'm anticipating him missing

11:13

some time. If that ends up being the case, then

11:15

the Chicago Bears missed an opportunity to flip

11:17

Justin Fields at the height of his

11:19

value while they could have.

11:22

Now everybody's going to know going into

11:24

the off season, you're taking a quarterback. His

11:26

value is not going to be what it once

11:28

was two weeks ago.

11:30

Yeah. I don't know where he would go. I'm looking

11:32

around. I'm trying to think, okay, what team would

11:34

make some sense for Justin Fields?

11:37

New England would be a team that I would rather have

11:39

him than Matt Jones, but I can't have a banged

11:41

up version of him. And I just

11:43

can't. Now his fifth year option is going

11:45

to have to be declined. No, no doubt. There's

11:48

no way they're going to pick that up. Now next year

11:50

at $6 million, okay, like

11:53

some team will take a shot on him to see if they

11:55

could find value. And it's not like he's been the worst quarterback

11:57

we've ever seen, but now we don't

11:59

know.

11:59

what the rest of his season looks like. The Jay Glazer

12:02

report from yesterday from Fox did not look good

12:04

relative to the immediate future and

12:07

now they're in a little bit of a pickle amongst

12:09

a team that has been horrific that is probably going to have the

12:11

top two picks in the draft. Yeah, but you can't keep Justin

12:13

Fields in the building if you're going to draft a quarterback with

12:15

one of the first two picks. Like Justin Fields

12:17

is not going, like he still views

12:20

himself as a guy that's ascending

12:22

as a franchise quarterback. There's no way that

12:24

those two can coexist in the same quarterback room.

12:26

You need a clean slate. You gotta have a clean slate. You

12:28

gotta go with somebody that's a career backup, somebody

12:30

that can be your bridge option. Hell, even if you

12:33

want to go with Tyson Bajan or if you want

12:35

to let that person be the number one starter

12:37

going into the season until who you draft

12:39

is ready, that's all well and good. There's

12:41

no world that exists in which Justin

12:43

Fields can be your week one starter

12:46

in 2024 and you draft a

12:48

quarterback with the first or second pick

12:50

in the draft this coming spring. There's no

12:52

way that happens and that's why the Chicago

12:55

Bears were better served moving on from

12:57

Fields sooner rather than later.

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This is the Unsportsmanlike Podcast

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on ESPN Radio. Yeah, not pretty

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yesterday for the New England Patriots. It's Unsportsmanlike

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14:31

Teddy Bruschi, ESPN NFL analyst,

14:33

was on Sunday NFL Countdown. This is before

14:36

the Pats lost to the Raiders

14:38

yesterday in Vegas. And he had this to

14:40

say about Bill Belichick

14:42

and the Patriots.

14:44

I just think it's different there now. Okay,

14:47

what I was known as a player was

14:49

we were coached to win meaningful

14:52

games. Meaningful meaning division

14:54

championships, playoffs, world

14:56

championships, Super Bowls. The meaningful

14:59

game now is not for the team it seems.

15:01

The meaningful wins, it seems like it's

15:03

for Bill. Now, why is it for Bill? It's

15:06

because the whole Shula thing is

15:08

really just muddying everything. Do we wait

15:10

and see if Bill can get Shula? Because is

15:12

it all about getting to 348 and Bill's

15:14

at 330 right now?

15:15

But

15:18

I just never knew it to be

15:20

meaningful for an individual record

15:22

there. And now it's overshadowing that

15:25

team.

15:26

So guys, like

15:28

there are a million problems with the Patriots

15:30

right now. Nobody would deny that. The

15:33

focus on Shula's record, I don't know as

15:35

a fan and a media member. I

15:37

don't think it's one of them.

15:39

Really? As to why they're performing

15:41

poorly this year? I don't think that I

15:43

don't know if it's a major contributing factor

15:45

into what we're seeing on the field, but

15:47

when I think about reasons why the Patriots

15:50

would be hanging on to Bill Belichick, it's

15:53

because of the record. It's because of the

15:55

respect that they have for him and everything

15:58

he accomplished in Foxborough. The

16:00

record is the only carrot that's dangling out there.

16:02

Teddy Bruski talked about when he was there, they played

16:04

in meaningful games. He's meaning playoff

16:06

games and Super Bowls. That's gone out the window.

16:09

So what's the meaning behind these games

16:12

other than you're a professional athlete and you're paid

16:14

to win? We're all focused on Bill

16:16

Belichick as he has a finite

16:18

amount of time left as a head coach in the NFL, can

16:21

he get to or break Shula's record?

16:23

Yeah, I think that's why the organization

16:26

is staying with Belichick, but I don't think that's

16:28

the reason why. This team in particular

16:30

is struggling from week to week.

16:32

I just think that they're a team that

16:35

has

16:35

lost confidence in their head coach providing

16:38

a path for victory for them each and every

16:40

Sunday. And that's what it looks like because

16:42

they have 10 penalties yesterday and

16:45

you're talking about them having two turnovers if

16:48

you include the safety. Like we don't

16:50

usually see Bill Belichick's teams

16:52

not be buttoned up in that way where they avoid

16:56

the self-inflicting wounds. And the

16:58

fact that this team was in that situation

17:01

yesterday that Mack Jones takes that safety

17:04

in that circumstance is just unacceptable.

17:06

That's a part of coaching. And so

17:08

again, I don't think this group has a lot

17:10

of confidence that that Belichick

17:12

is gonna be able to give them an opportunity to win.

17:15

This locker room has lost trust in the head coach,

17:17

they lost confidence in the head coach. The

17:19

head coach has lost the ear of the players that

17:22

he's trying to get to go out there and execute.

17:24

When that happens, it's a telltale

17:26

sign that it's time to move on and

17:29

find a new head coach. That's where we're at

17:31

with Bill Belichick. I'm not sure

17:33

all of the different things that led to us being at this point,

17:35

but we're here now, we have to accept

17:38

it. He's lost his touch as a head coach.

17:40

Doesn't mean he's forgotten how to coach football. It

17:42

just means that he's forgotten how

17:44

to galvanize and inspire the guys

17:46

that he put together on this particular

17:49

team. So honest question, am

17:51

I allowed to bring up all of the injuries that

17:53

they've had this year? Like seriously,

17:56

am I allowed to bring up there without the four

17:58

top four corners as their best defensive player. There's

18:00

three-fifths of their offensive line. No, because

18:03

unless it's the quarterback, then it doesn't matter. Unless

18:05

it's the quarterback, it doesn't matter. That's fine.

18:07

I just wanted to point out... It's not the quarterback. I

18:10

don't wish he was hurt, but I wish there was a better option.

18:13

I wish there was a better option. Matt Jones is not

18:15

a good option for them right now. No! And

18:18

there was all kinds of things about how they got him. And

18:20

this is what got Bill Belichick used the 15th overall

18:22

pick on this guy three years ago. Everyone...

18:24

Maybe you didn't. I shouldn't say you did. But I know

18:26

I did and many other people praised them for

18:29

sitting there and waiting for Mack to fall to

18:31

them. And I think that we all believe that

18:33

if Kyle Shanahan with the San Francisco 49ers

18:35

had a terrible loss yesterday, even though I think it'll help them

18:37

and motivate them, if Kyle Shanahan

18:40

had his say, I think he would have taken Mack Jones

18:42

at three overall and not Trey Lance. Well,

18:44

that's hypothetical. We'll never be able to prove. But my

18:46

point about Mack Jones is that he's gotten worse

18:48

every year he's played. Yeah. Like

18:51

his first year was his best year, and then he's regressed

18:53

from there. Well, he had Josh McDaniels,

18:55

and this is the thing. We can't now blame Patricia

18:58

on all of this. Right? Everyone's like, oh, Matt Patricia,

19:01

that really... No, I'm not going to start. No, you're

19:03

not. But he has a proven very

19:06

good offensive coordinator in Bill O'Brien,

19:08

and he's still making tons of mistakes. But there

19:10

could be residue from the dual coordinator

19:12

situation last year. We don't know how much that's factoring

19:14

into the regression that we're seeing from Mack Jones. But

19:17

you bring up the injuries, which I think is an interesting point here. Because,

19:19

yes, of course, if you are sustaining injuries, especially

19:22

to the unit that's supposed to carry you through

19:24

and the defense for the Patriots, it's going to be a problem.

19:28

Even if they were fully healthy as, how

19:30

many more wins would you expect them to have? Even

19:32

if the defense was at 100% capacity,

19:35

what's the war difference

19:36

there? I think they would have won. I

19:38

think they would have won yesterday.

19:40

Okay, so I think maybe one to two more wins. We're

19:42

still talking about a team that's not going to be in the playoffs. A

19:44

team that's going to have a losing record. A team that's going to have a losing

19:46

record. Yeah. It just looks like

19:48

a better version

19:50

of what we've seen now. But the problem

19:52

is... But maybe you're better off, Ev, with it looking as bad as it

19:54

is. Yeah. Maybe it's better off that this thing

19:57

is 1-16 or 2-15. or

20:00

three and four, maybe you're better off

20:02

coming to that realization because this team

20:05

is closer to a rebuild than they are competing

20:07

for a division title. Look at the AFC East.

20:10

You're not close to any of those teams. You're

20:12

not close to the Jets even though you beat them a few weeks

20:14

ago. It's a different team. It's a different quarterback. Yeah,

20:17

that's what I'm saying. You're not beating this version of the Jets.

20:19

You're not beating the Miami Dolphins. You're not beating the

20:21

Buffalo Bills. You're not close. So

20:24

this is going to push Robert Kraft

20:26

closer to what he needs to do anyway, which

20:28

is pushing a rebuild and

20:31

doing a hard reset on his franchise.

20:33

And to me, that includes moving on

20:35

from the head coach. Now I get it because

20:38

of what Belichick has done over the last 23, 24 years. You

20:41

want to present a united front, a mutual parting

20:43

of ways, or even leaving it up to

20:45

Bill to resign even though

20:48

it's an organizational decision because

20:50

you do want to have that degree of

20:53

respect. And as you mentioned before, Michelle, the

20:55

quorum, but this is not

20:58

a Belichick decision. Belichick

21:00

is done as your head coach. He can't

21:02

pull out of this nose dive that this team has been

21:04

in. Three of the last four years they've been out of the

21:06

playoffs. If you're including this year, it

21:08

would be three of the last four years they would have

21:11

a losing record if you're including what they're doing

21:13

this year.

21:13

That ain't good enough based on the standard that was established

21:16

in part by Belichick over the last two decades.

21:18

No. And if you're doing a hard reset, why wouldn't that

21:20

include a new head coach? If you're going to go out

21:22

and get a new quarterback, wouldn't you want a completely

21:25

new regime in place?

21:26

Me, no, but I understand why you're saying

21:28

that, right? But what has happened here today is

21:31

the same thing that happened a couple of weeks ago

21:33

that was a hard pill for you to swallow, Cece, that

21:35

is a hard pill for me to swallow. I gave you

21:37

that same response you just gave me about the Giants where

21:39

I said to you, hey, this is a good thing. And you're like, oh,

21:42

God, I don't want to think that way.

21:44

I feel that way about that. Of course, this is a good

21:46

thing because, yeah, without the injuries, there's

21:49

seven and 10. And they don't have

21:51

a chance at one of these great quarterbacks coming out. You

21:53

really think it would be seven and 10? Well, okay, closer. Right.

21:56

Okay. I like how that's why. Six

21:58

and 11, whatever you want to say. And by the way,

22:00

this is a good year to be bad. No

22:03

doubt. These quarterbacks came like they're going to

22:05

be really good in the NFL and there's a lot

22:07

of them. I know it doesn't always work out

22:09

that way, but there's enough of these guys. There's

22:11

a lot of guys. I'm just sitting there running through the list. I

22:14

mean, it's Kayla Williams, it's Drake May, it's

22:16

Michael Penix Jr., it's JJ McCarthy,

22:18

it's Quinn Uras, it's Shador Sanders.

22:21

I mean, there's a lot of guys. I mean, if

22:23

you want to count the kid down in Florida State, Jordan

22:25

Travis, there's a lot of guys.

22:28

A lot of quarterback spots. A lot of guys

22:30

with first round raids on them. Like you said,

22:33

this is a good year to be really, really, really

22:35

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I assume she's now a free agent as

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25:31

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25:33

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25:35

I wonder what team's coming after

25:37

her. Yeah, that was a curious note

25:39

to come across our Twitter feeds just minutes

25:41

ago because Kim Eng quite

25:44

literally picked Skip Schumacher

25:46

to be the manager of the Marlins and in his

25:48

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25:50

her fingerprints all over this team and

25:52

that seems prime to continue to build

25:55

on what they did this season and this postseason. So

25:57

for her to leave, I can only. Did

26:00

you skies that she may have a better

26:02

offer on the

26:03

table? Can she come back to the Bronx

26:05

and put her fingerprints back on the Yankees? Can

26:12

we do that can we do that CC here's

26:14

the question She's

26:17

too big time to take a

26:19

number two rolls to cashman,

26:21

right? Well, who said it has to be a number

26:23

two role Oh, well, then you just flip in the script. No, I

26:25

mean we don't have to fire Brian cash But we

26:27

can move Brian cashman around to another

26:30

analyst down within the organization.

26:32

We can give him the president Michael

26:35

K Paul O'Neill There's

26:38

a lot of job titles within the Yankees

26:40

organization I'm sure we can find a nice

26:43

cushy place for him to land if it means us

26:45

being able to get Kim Ying

26:46

and he's been in that post for quite some

26:48

time and after what you saw in New York this

26:51

Past season the disappointment that it was for your

26:53

Yankees. I would not be surprised that they were looking

26:55

to bring in some fresh blood

26:56

Last

26:58

time we've been in the World Series was 2009. It's

27:00

been a long time. What do you have 14 years running?

27:03

Yeah, not great. Not great. Well

27:05

tonight not great on ESPN Of

27:07

course, we do have Monday Night Football the Cowboys

27:09

and the Chargers and Emmitt Smith

27:12

Was with us earlier today a very very great

27:15

moment that he and I had a nice handshake We're

27:17

very close You can check at unsports

27:20

ESPN where he went in for the fist bump

27:22

and I went in for the handshake But

27:24

Emmitt Smith talked about the pressure and both back

27:27

and McCarthy coming up. I

27:29

Think it's on both. I think it's

27:31

on both. I mean obviously the head coach has

27:34

to bring I mean Jerry

27:36

and Staff who's who's

27:39

drafting these players and so forth and I say we

27:41

have quality players They're bringing

27:43

the the ingredients to the table No

27:45

doubt the meal itself got to be prepared

27:48

correctly on the football field and that product has

27:50

to hit the football field and play at A level

27:52

that that everyone is expecting

27:54

it to play at and so So

27:57

I think it's on both. We also discussed

27:59

with Emmitt Smith Smith Hall of Famer, of course, whether

28:01

or not Jerry Jones should be more thought of as the

28:03

owner of the team or the GM of the team. Jerry

28:07

Jones is better suited to be an owner

28:09

of a team or a general manager of a team. At this

28:11

point, I think he's better suited to be the owner

28:13

at this point. I mean, it's

28:16

been a number of years and Jerry

28:18

is still a wise man, don't get me wrong. I'm not

28:20

saying he should not have some say, but I

28:22

think Stephen Jones and the rest of the staff

28:24

has been developed enough to where they

28:26

bring in the right talent. The question

28:28

is how come the meal has not been prepared

28:31

the right way? That's the question.

28:33

It's not about talent. The Cowboys have always had talent

28:35

over the last 20 some years. That's

28:37

one reason why everybody, the pressure is

28:39

on them. But when you see it on the football field, you

28:42

start to question really,

28:43

what are we doing? And

28:45

of course, the quarterback is one of those talented

28:48

players that obviously doesn't always perform

28:51

at the highest of levels. We asked

28:53

Emmett Smith about paying Dak long term.

28:56

At this point, I probably wouldn't.

28:58

I think there are other positions

29:00

on the football field

29:02

that we need to have.

29:04

We need to create, see our defense

29:07

have great chemistry. Offensively we

29:09

don't have the chemistry that's required. We're

29:11

not matching what our defense is doing

29:14

from a chemistry standpoint and functionality

29:16

standpoint and aggressiveness. And

29:19

if you missed any of that, you can go back on the ESPN app and listen

29:22

to our podcast, the Unsportsmanlike podcast. And now

29:24

as we get ready for my night football, Cowboys at

29:26

the Chargers, three and two Cowboys, two and two

29:28

Chargers here.

29:30

He said a lot. He said a lot. He

29:32

doesn't have the full faith, obviously, in his team. And

29:34

tonight, if they lose, guys, that

29:37

is all anyone's going to be talking about tomorrow is a three and three

29:39

Cowboys team. No doubt about it. And

29:41

for me, this is all about the Cowboys being able

29:43

to protect the football, not get penalized

29:46

and be able to capitalize on scored opportunities

29:49

in the red zone. Now in a weekend where we

29:51

saw the fewest red zone touchdowns court

29:53

since 2017, we're talking

29:55

about the Cowboys being one of the worst red

29:58

zone teams in the national football league. They've

30:00

got their work cut out for them, going

30:02

up against this Chargers defense. And one of the things

30:04

that this Chargers defense does well is take

30:06

the football away. Five takeaways over the

30:09

last two games. So coming off of a

30:11

bye week, they're going to be juiced up. They're going to be ready

30:13

to go. It's going to feel like a road game to

30:15

the Chargers, because it's in LA and there

30:17

are more Cowboys fans there than

30:19

Chargers fans. So again, Dallas

30:22

is going to have to be ready to match

30:24

the energy that the Chargers are going to be bringing

30:26

to the party. And coming off

30:28

of a performance where they fell flat against the

30:31

49ers, I can't have any confidence that

30:33

that's going to happen, Smalls.

30:34

They need to come out and make

30:37

a statement here. That loss

30:39

to the 49ers was brutal. They talked so much about

30:41

it leading up to it, how it was the measuring stick. And then

30:44

we certainly learned a lot about the measuring

30:46

stick. Yeah, we did. We learned a lot about the measuring

30:48

stick. But the

30:50

Chargers are getting Austin Echler back. When James

30:52

Beck, they're coming off their bye. This isn't

30:54

going to be an easy one for the Cowboys, even though they're 9

30:57

and 1 in games following a loss since the start

30:59

of 2021. But if they come

31:01

out after that loss to the 49ers and

31:04

they do not have the appropriate response tonight,

31:07

we're going to have a whole lot to say

31:08

tomorrow. Well, it's interesting because the loss

31:10

of the 49ers, 42.10, looks worse

31:13

today, even than it did a week ago,

31:15

because of the fact that the Browns just beat the Niners,

31:18

And when you look at the Cowboys wins, the Giants 40

31:21

to nothing, Jets 30 to 10, Patriots 38, 3. They

31:24

haven't beat anybody. Well, the Jets are clearly

31:26

the best team of that three. And you're

31:28

right. But that wasn't this version of the

31:31

Jets. No. No, it was not. Robert

31:33

Salah had coached the Jets, though, yesterday

31:36

after their big win against the Philadelphia

31:38

Eagles, had this to say, which includes,

31:40

by the way, some of the quarterbacks that he saw here, includes

31:43

that Prescott, which is interesting. Salah,

31:46

very proud of his team postgame.

31:48

Thought defense per the usual,

31:51

outstanding. Through

31:53

these first six weeks, we've played a gauntlet of quarterbacks.

31:57

And I know

31:59

we haven't gotten

31:59

all wins but we've embarrassed all of them. We've

32:02

embarrassed all of them. That's a

32:04

gauntlet of quarterbacks. Do we consider Dak

32:06

Prescott as part of that gauntlet of quarterbacks?

32:09

Bills Cowboys Patriots. Patriots

32:12

do not have a gauntlet. Yeah, I don't know

32:14

about that one. Chiefs Broncos, I

32:16

love them but don't either. And Eagles, the

32:19

way Jalen Hurts played yesterday, not gauntlet.

32:22

Did they embarrass a gauntlet of quarterbacks or

32:24

is that an overstatement there by Salah? They

32:26

saw a stretch of games where some good quarterback

32:29

struggled.

32:30

So I mean I don't think that they...

32:32

let me not take anything away from what the Jets did. This

32:34

is not about them. This is about the Dallas Cowboys. But

32:36

he included Dak as part of the gauntlet. But my point is this,

32:38

it's always been about the Dallas Cowboys.

32:41

But when you have Cowboys legends like Emmitt Smith

32:43

saying at this juncture they wouldn't pay Dak

32:45

Prescott, that's telling in terms

32:48

of how you see people that

32:50

are close to this organization be split on

32:52

what the long-term future of Dak is. This

32:55

is one of them ones for Dak where he's got

32:57

to go out there and silence all of the critics. For

32:59

all of the people that are saying, you know what, maybe

33:01

I wouldn't pay Dak, maybe we can invest that money

33:04

in other areas of the team, and we can

33:06

be similar to what we see the

33:08

San Francisco 49ers be under Bry

33:10

Purdy. We can be one of these teams that has

33:12

a quarterback on a rookie deal or a controllable

33:14

contract and that has a really good

33:16

supporting cast and ends up competing

33:19

for championships that way. I

33:21

just... to me this is the kind of

33:23

game that you look at Dak and say after we

33:25

got embarrassed by the San Francisco

33:28

49ers, we need you to go out there

33:30

and have a career night and be a reason

33:32

why we get a road win against

33:36

a team in the LA Chargers that

33:38

could contend for a playoff spot. Be the

33:40

difference in a positive way in

33:42

this type of game because the Cowboys need

33:45

some positive momentum. They need a quality

33:47

win. I know this is not college football, but

33:49

they need something to feel good about, something tangible

33:52

to let them know that they can

33:54

get close to realizing the expectations

33:56

that they had on this season.

33:57

They need a response. They need

33:59

to agree.

33:59

rebound. Can you imagine the way you would feel

34:02

if you were in that Dallas Cowboys locker room

34:04

after you did get embarrassed by the 49ers and then

34:06

you followed that up after a longer week with a loss

34:08

to the Chargers? Morale will be down.

34:11

I'm your former offensive coordinator in Kellen

34:12

Moore. The Kellen Moore Bowl. We didn't even bring

34:14

that up yet, that's right. But certainly back really quickly

34:17

to Robert Saleh, what the 49ers

34:19

did to the Cowboys was embarrass them. That

34:22

is a pretty bold statement for him to say that they've

34:24

embarrassed quarterbacks. The Jets defense

34:26

is good. I mean Josh Allen

34:28

embarrassed himself in that opener. I don't think

34:30

the Jets embarrassed him by any sort

34:32

of thing. Yeah, Rob Saleh is doing a little too much. He's

34:34

feeling himself a little too much. I just pumped the brakes

34:36

on that one, Rob. You're not embarrassing him.

34:39

But here's the thing though, because you're talking about embarrassing

34:41

people. The Cowboys have embarrassed

34:44

themselves two of the last three weeks. Let's

34:46

not forget, there's a loss on the road to the Arizona

34:49

Cardinals baked in there too. So I mean,

34:51

two of the last three times we've seen this team on the field,

34:53

they have quite literally embarrassed themselves

34:56

against a team that has the

34:58

second best odds according to our FBI of

35:00

having the number one overall pick, which is the Cardinals.

35:03

And then they got embarrassed by a team that we all thought

35:05

was the best in football and the 49ers in a

35:07

very different fashion. Now, if you're Dallas, you

35:09

need to make a statement about who you are and

35:11

what your team is going to be about for the

35:13

rest of the season. Because guess what? Coming off of

35:16

your buy don't really get easier. You got the LA

35:18

Rams and then you got the Philadelphia Eagles on

35:20

the road. This could be a problem

35:23

for the Cowboys. You could talk about this team

35:25

spiraling. If you're going into

35:27

your buy week, having lost three of your last four

35:29

games. And by the way, there's another

35:31

side of this. Smalls is brought up. At what

35:34

point do we critique Justin Herbert

35:36

and treat him the way that we've treated other star

35:39

quarterbacks? If they lose tonight and they're three

35:41

and three, we always go to the head coach. Maybe

35:43

the quarterback had some conversation around it. Yeah,

35:45

they'll be three and four. Oh,

35:47

we know three and three. Okay. Three and three after

35:49

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35:51

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unsportsmanlike moment of the day slash

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weekend.

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We have a lot of candidates today. Michelle Smallman,

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Chris Canty, Evan Cohen with you. All right, let's just

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get this one out there.

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Emmett Smith joined us earlier today. Uh,

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he's a pro football hall of famer. You can listen back

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on the ESPN app to in our podcast. Yeah.

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And, um, he went for the fist bump. I went

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for the handshake as he exited the, uh,

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the studio.

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And it was very awkward. Go

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ahead. I don't understand why

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you didn't stand up to shake his hand

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after we were just standing to

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take a group photo with Emmett Smith. And

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then after the awkward dap slash

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and shake, you kept your fist

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clenched for a while. You

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look like you were about to swing on somebody as

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tight as that fist was clenched. I don't understand

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it. Nobody would feel it. I promise you. Did you

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realize in that moment that you screwed up? Did

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you realize in that moment that you made it awkward?

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I think that's what it was. With the all-time leading rusher? Yeah,

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I think it's exactly what I did. So it was like a fist

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pump? Is that what you were doing afterwards? Like,

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great job, even though it wasn't? It was

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more of like a fist pump. And then

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I was giving myself the Kobe fist

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pump. Like, great job, dummy. Great

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job. Like for myself. I could

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feel the cringe exuding

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from your clenched fist after

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the botched

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interaction. Yeah. Thanks.

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It's not great. It's not great. That's

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the nominee. It's not great. But you

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know what? Let's see if I

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win. Where we can gloss over

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all of your gaffs today. I don't know. Maybe.

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Yeah. All right. Nick

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Saban, head coach, Alabama. They beat Arkansas this weekend. You

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know, when a quarterback can take a major

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college football player and sling

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them off like a gnat on a fly's ass. I

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mean, a fly on a gnat

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on a cow's ass. I mean, that

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was one of the most impressive plays I've

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ever seen a player make. What

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a comparison. Wait,

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a gnat on a fly's ass? And

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then a fly on a cow's ass? I don't know.

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I don't know who's, what has gone there?

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It took us a long time to get that handshake done. I think

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is what happened there. It took him a long time to figure out

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the way to go with that analogy. All

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right. Now, next, next candidate for unsportsmanlike

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moment of the day slash weekend. Kirk Cousins, quarterback

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of the Minnesota Vikings, they beat the Chicago

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Bears. Maybe he has a reason as to why they're

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winning a game now.

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Garrett Bradbury in the locker room pregame

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took a clip from

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the Texas Rangers and made sure that Creed got

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played before we went out in the field. And I felt like that,

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that

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may have made the difference. So we

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got that going for us. What made

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you decide to play Creed? You know that

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the Rangers have been playing Creed in their role in the playoffs.

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And we've been listening to it in the list a little bit here

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and there. But music is banging

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on the boombox, most pregames.

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locker room we thought we'd mix it up mix up the genre

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a little bit get some Creed in there. Okay

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so Creed is now

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the rallying cry for not only the Texas Rangers

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who are up 1-0 in the ALCS over the Astros

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with their win last night all the games heard on ESPN radio

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through the World Series. Now

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the Vikings are crediting Creed.

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Should we be playing Creed before every show?

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No no we're not gonna do that and here's

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the thing those two teams are not

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the same. One team has a chance to compete

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for a championship another team

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doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell it winning

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a title. But

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both have the same result because of Creed?

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In the weirdest of them? I mean

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they won a game against the Bears. That's

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like me going into a kindergarten class

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and being proud that I'm the tallest person in

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the room. Like what

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are we talking about? Like they're awful

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the Vikings are an awful football team

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it's just the Bears are worse. I'm

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not gonna credit them because they don't have as

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much ineptitude as Chicago does.

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So

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no love for the positive juju

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surrounding Creed lately? No no

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I'm not saying that because I mean the Texas Rangers

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they doing a thing and they had a big win last

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night in the LCS shout out to the Texas Rangers

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because they beat my team's mortal

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enemy the Houston Astros so I'm never gonna be

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mad at that but

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yeah don't take a you're not taking

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a page out of the Texas Rangers playbook because

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y'all are terrible and y'all are going nowhere.

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So weird note about Creed? Oh. When

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I was covering the University of Miami football team I'm standing

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on the sidelines ready for the game to end to go into the locker

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room postgame I looked to my left and Scott Stapp the

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lead singer of Creed is standing next to me on the Kane sidelines.

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You recognize what he looked like? Yeah

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you wouldn't recognize the lead singer of Creed?

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I would not. You

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could put a line up in front of me and I could not.

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100% you would. I'm

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not to save my life. I couldn't do

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it. I think you could. Alright next candidate.

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Tyrod Taylor, Brian Dayball combo

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package end of the first half last night

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Giants Bill CC take it away. It's not

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a combo package. I mean Tyrod Taylor

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clearly checks to the option on

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the play in Really, it shouldn't have

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been an option because it was a run play to take

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one Barkley in that situation with no

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time out You can't get stopped short.

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So why run the football you wouldn't

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so if you're Brian day ball Why would

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you send in a play where your quarterback has

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the option to check to a run? It

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just doesn't make sense image

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miss said the same thing before he came on

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our show during a break He said yeah,

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that's not on the quarterback. That's on the head

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coach. You don't send that play in Not

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under those circumstances not tie rod being a

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veteran being a guy in his early 30s He

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should know better under the circumstances But sometimes

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you get wrapped up you get lost in the sauce in the game

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that can't happen from your quarterback more

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importantly It can't happen with your head

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coach and your offensive coordinator by Kafka

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So them they the ones that deserve all the smoke

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even though day ball gave tie rotted earful

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on the sideline He should have been yelling

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at himself or yelling at his offensive coordinator because

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it shouldn't have been on the board in the first Alright next

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one jet end of game

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critique. They scored too quickly ended

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up that they won Unsportsmanlike

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moment the critique a little bit a little

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bit. I mean Breece Hall There's a reason why they're

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letting you in the end zone How about you don't jaw

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and mouth off to the Philadelphia

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Eagles guys in that moment? They were

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trying to get the ball back. It was still

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a one possession game They were only down

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six dayland hurts could have put together a drive

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and had a touchdown on that last one It

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didn't happen because of how well your defense played

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But if you're being savvy if you want

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to be aware if you want to take

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it to a different level as a young player Recognize

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that in that moment stop short of the goal

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line Give your team an opportunity to take some

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knees make the Eagles burn their timeouts

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and then if you're forced to kick the go

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Ahead field goal and then get the ball back to to

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me that was

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next level The fact that he didn't recognize

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that and he was celebrating and mouth it off

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to the Eagles guys after they let him score

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A little bit on sportsman like smalls. All right. All right. All

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right now another one Tyree Kales scores a touchdown

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grabs a camera from a photographer flip

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with the camera in his hand and videos himself,

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which was amazing pre-set up beforehand. We

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also had a situation where Johnny Hecker, the punter in

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that game against the Dolphins, had a,

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was going at a player and we saw a flop

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on the sidelines with the Dolphins player.

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In addition, one more unsportsmanlike candidate

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of the weekend slash moment of the weekend, Arthur

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Smith, head coach of the Atlanta Falcons, their

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loss yesterday to Washington, had a terrible

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moment where he had the leaning back double

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chin scenario and me

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imitating it during the course of the

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show today. We have a lot of candidates.

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The official answer for the most unsportsmanlike moment

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of the day slash weekend is what? Brian DeBolt,

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Tyrod Taylor. What?

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It's Evan botching the handshake

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with Emmet Smith.

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Yeah, that's bad.

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That's bad. How could you

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go Tyrod Taylor

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over me doing what I did? How terrible

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I was. Because that was bad. That was bad what Tyrod

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Taylor did. I mean, yeah. That

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is worse. That is bad. Yeah. You

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know what? Tyrod at least had pressure in the situation.

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There was no pressure with Evan. Evan was in control.

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The interview was already over. He

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came through. We had a good time in this segment. We

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took a picture. And for Evan

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to mess up the handshake on the way out of

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the door.

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Everything was going great. He stayed afterwards.

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We were chatting. As you see mentioned, he took the photo

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with us. And then you are the last

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line of defense representing our show.

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And what do you do? You

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botch this. It's very Josh Harris of you.

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You know, minus the football team in the billions of dollars.

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And the basketball team and the hockey team. Minus

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all of the sports franchises in the billions. Very

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Josh Harris of you. Josh Harris still broke up. I

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mean sorry. Emmitt Smith

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is trying to go. You know what? He probably said he...

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A true professional would have remained standing and shook his

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hand rather than sit back down and he'd tap

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up. He probably knew I was a quarterback. He's like I could tap

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up a former football player as well. We're on to Tuesday. It's Unsportsmen

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