Welcome friends,

for the second episode of Untrained Effort I deep dive in UBI - Universal Basic Income to understand what that mechanism could do to our understanding of work, institutions and our relationships with the State.

It leads me to ponder how artists and other creatives could achieve a greater freedom in their occupation and what other mechanisms exist that aim to do that.

I speak to Clemence Huckel (in her English voice by Victoria Valcheva), a producer from France who works in dance, theatre and radio. She explains to me what "l'intermittance" is - a specific state benefit that compensates artists and technicians for periods of unemployment.

To hear the full, unedited interview in French , check out the bonus content available.

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With thanks to:

Clemence Huckel

Victoria Valcheva

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