In this ninth episode of Upstream Radio, we zoom out and look to the deepest sources of hunger and food insecurity, and what can be done to address these urgent Canadian public health crises.

The real problem is poverty — something we spent tens of billions on just to maintain, but might actually be cheaper and easier to simply eliminate. We're joined by PROOF's Valerie Tarasuk, Canada Without Poverty's Harriett McLachlan and Upstream's Cody Sharp to discuss what can be, and must be done.