In this episode of Vacation and Short-Term Rental Titans, Leo Walton (co-founder of SUPERHOG) has the pleasure of chatting with Cliff Johnson, the Vice President of New Homes at Realtor.com.

Founded in 1996, Realtor.com is the trusted resource for home buyers, sellers, and dreamers, offering the most comprehensive source of for-sale properties, among competing national sites, and the information, tools and professional expertise to help people move confidently through every step of their home journey.

A true industry Titan, Leo explores where it all began for Cliff in the short-term rental industry. Cliff shares with us his story about the creation of Vacasa, and the valuable lessons that he and his co-founder learnt when it comes to creating a successful and profitable VR company, through company culture and recruitment to name just a few. Cliff also shares with Leo his passion for sustainability and his thoughts on how we can help make the STR and VR space, a greener and more sustainable industry.