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Hi, welcome to the Vegans Fitness

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and Nutrition podcast. This is episode

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ten. I'm the muscle deficient vegan

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here with the protein deficient vegan.

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Hi. Hi.

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So this week we're going to talk

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about vegan myths, misconceptions,

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hesitations you might have when trying

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to go vegan. It's still veganuary.

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So a lot of people are still, you

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know, poking around trying to understand

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what it maybe means to go vegan or

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maybe switch to a plantbased diet.

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So I think a lot of these things

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are probably things that people think

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about or hear, maybe if they talk

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to people about being a vegan. So

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we're going to try to tackle some

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of these and have a little bit of

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a conversation about them.

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Yeah, it might even be good if you

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are trying out veganuary and you're

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getting a lot of these.

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Yeah.

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So jumping right in. The first thing

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we have is the myth that all vegans

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eat is rabbit food. So there's a

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big misconception that a lot of vegans

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basically just eat like salads, literally

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bowls of lettuce for whatever reason,

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maybe just vegetables. But everybody

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needs actual protein in their diet,

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even if they're not doing a high

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protein diet. So a lot of the sources

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are really going to be things like

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beans and lentils for the common

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ones. But our style is to kind of

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do the more high protein stuff like

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tofu and satan.

1:09

Yeah.

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And this is a big problem. Like if

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you're going out with friends and

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they're picking restaurants that

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only have maybe one vegan option,

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and that vegan option is just a salad,

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you kind of run into it at work functions

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and stuff, too. For some reason,

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people don't seem to understand.

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Like, just because I'm vegan doesn't

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mean I don't also need things other

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than lettuce.

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Yeah, a lot of the times the vegan

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option is just take everything off

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that's not the lettuce and vegetables

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and it's not very helpful for anybody.

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Really.

1:38

Yeah.

1:39

It's actually pretty wild because

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at work a couple of years ago, we

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were doing strike coverage, so we

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were probably going to get locked

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in. And so the preparations were

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happening and they were sending out

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the menu of like, here's what you

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can expect since you can't leave

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for two entire weeks. And I was like,

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there aren't vegan options. What

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is the vegan option? And I hear back

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that, oh, well, the vegan option

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is going to be a bowl of mixed greens

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for lunch and dinner. But you would

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need to bring your own dressing.

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I had no words.

2:13

Yeah, that's very generous to let

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you pick your own dressing.

2:18

Yeah, I know I can bring my own dressing.

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It was wild. So I started stocking

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peanut butter. Do you remember that?

2:18

Yeah, I was like stockpiling peanut

2:18

butter.

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And like, if we knew then what we

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know now, you probably could have

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made some high protein dressing for

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that.

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Yeah, I could have, but it would

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have only lasted like four days because

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it has tofu.

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Yeah.

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Still not ideal.

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It was pretty nuts. Yeah.

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But anyway, most vegans, even vegetarians,

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not a big fan of the bowls of lettuce

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and other things that are considered

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rabbit food, that's not really how

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we eat.

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Yeah, I don't even consider that

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like a vegan option. Like, if someone

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asks me to go somewhere and that's

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the vegan option on the menu, unless

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I really want to hang out with you,

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I'm probably not going to go.

2:57

Yeah.

2:58

All right, so next up on the list,

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vegans are protein deficient. So

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being as we're here with the protein

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deficient vegan, we've obviously

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got some opinions on this. Actual

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protein deficiency that makes you

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actually sick is super rare. It's

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not even a common vegan problem.

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There are some people who can run

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into it if they go into what we were

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just talking about and maybe make

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a switch to eating a bunch of rabbit

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food for some reason, because they

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don't really.

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Or like a lot of junk food.

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A lot of junk food, too. But to be

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healthy, like, the actual dietary

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minimum to not get sick is a very

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low protein percentage, which is

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not really a concern.

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Like 10% maybe. It's really low.

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I mean, people are hitting this without

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even trying.

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Yeah.

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If you eat anything, like anything

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really, even plants have protein

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to a certain degree. But if you're

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not trying to lose a bunch of weight

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by just eating lettuce, this is probably

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not something you're going to run

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into.

3:57

Yeah. Or junk food.

3:58

Right.

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Yeah. But it is a little hard. Like if

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you are trying to build muscle and

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trying to hit those protein targets,

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it can be a little more challenging,

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but it is definitely not unachievable

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by any means.

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Yeah.

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And I think this is a pretty clear

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argument against this is there are

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plenty of vegan athletes and even

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bodybuilders. So I mean, obviously

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there are a million ways to get vegan

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protein, and that's one of the things

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we specialize in with our recipes

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is how to do that.

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Go check them out.

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Go check them out for sure. But there's

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just protein and so much stuff. This

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is not really a real thing. Next

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up, the myth that vegans can't get

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all their nutrients and they live

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on supplements.

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I've been hearing this a lot. Yeah.

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And a thing about a lot of these

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myths is there's a little bit of

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truth in some of them. Like the protein

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thing comes from the fact that there

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are some protein quality issues,

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but they don't really end up being

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relevant to just be healthy. The

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nutrients thing, there is one nutrient

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we can't really get, which is vitamin

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B. Twelve.

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Right. But that's not naturally occurring

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in animal products either. It's more

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of a modern agriculture issue.

5:02

Yeah.

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And we do have to take a supplement

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for that as far as everything else.

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Or eat nooch.

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Or eat nooch. Yeah, I mean that's

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fortified. A lot of fortified stuff.

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We do have to kind of be aware of

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it though. So while we don't need

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to supplement things, there are some

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things that are a little less available

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on a vegan diet, but they're usually

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not to the point where you end up

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with any kind of actual deficiency.

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As long as you're eating a wide variety

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of foods on either a vegan diet or

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even like the standard american omnivore

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type diet. If you eat the same couple

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of things over and over or you just

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eat junk food, you're going to run

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into vitamin nutrient type deficiencies

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anyway. I mean, it's not like people

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who eat animal products never have

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nutrient deficiencies. I mean, I

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know back before I was vegan I ran

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into vitamin D issues. I even ran

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into b twelve issues at some random

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points in my life. They weren't serious,

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but I was definitely on the low end

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on blood tests and things like that

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at random times.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, a wide variety of whole

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foods is the best way on any diet

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to get your vitamins and nutrients

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that you need. You can't replace

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the taste of meat and dairy products.

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I guess that's not really a myth.

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But I think people think it's a lot

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bigger deal than it actually is.

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I think that's the best way to put

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it. Meat and dairy doesn't really

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need to be replaced. It's just kind

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of another ingredient that you use.

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Yeah, I think definitely meat is

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like you can replicate that with

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anything as long as you're seasoning

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well and you're marinating stuff

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well. I don't really think you miss

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that. Dairy was a concern for me

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before I went vegan. I was a little

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worried I was going to miss it. But

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there are a lot of great options

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out there now for dairy substitutions

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if you want to use those. And also

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once you haven't eaten it for a while,

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I don't miss it any. I don't even

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think about it.

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Yeah, you think of meat as like the

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central part of the meal, but I mean,

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really, when you really think about

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it and you start eating things that

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don't have meat, you realize it was

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just kind of like the chewy textured

6:55

part of the meal. And there are a

6:55

lot of things that you can do that

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with tofu.

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Right, Satan. Satan is amazing, right?

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Yeah, Satan is kind of like, fills

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that gap immediately.

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Yeah.

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I mean, definitely if you feel the

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need to replace that part of your

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plate with something kind of similar,

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Satan is a great option.

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And there are a lot of meat substitutes,

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too, that work really well.

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There are a lot of different ingredients,

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thousands probably, of different

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ingredients out there that have all

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their own flavors. Meat and dairy

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are really just a handful of ingredients.

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So you're not really going to miss

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those nearly as much as you think

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when you have all these other options

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to eat food.

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Maybe a little bit hard the first

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few months, maybe even the first

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year, but you learn how to cook around

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it and you don't need it.

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And I would even argue a lot of that

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in the first few months is just learning

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what to eat instead. Like, you're

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just a habit kind of thing, really.

7:48

Actually missing the taste.

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It breaks your brain a little bit.

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Yeah.

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And again, if you really like those

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things a lot and you want to maybe

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help the transition, there are a

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lot of great straight up substitutions.

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I got beyond and impossible for meat

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and a million different vegan cheeses.

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It's hard to even miss cheese with

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all the cheese options out there.

8:14

Yeah.

8:14

And they're actually good nowadays. Yeah.

8:16

All right, next up, vegans are all

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weak and frail. This one is just

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obviously not true. Again, going

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back to vegan athletes, vegan bodybuilders,

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and these aren't like amateurs. There

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are professional athletes, professional

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bodybuilders, professional strong

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men, even, that are completely vegan.

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There's actually a website, greatveganathletes.com,

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where you can go to it and just look

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at list of vegan athletes at the

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highest level in a bunch of different

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sports. And that was one of the things

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I got from the game Changers movie.

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There's a lot of argument about the

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scientific details or whatever of

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the game Changers movie, but for

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me, it was just the realization that

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people could be at the top of their

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sport and be vegan. For me, that

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was enough to just know, like, oh,

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well, that's possible. Why would

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I even need to bother with not being

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vegan?

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Do you know what I got from game changers?

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Oh, wow. All right, what do you get

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from game Changers?

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Apparently vegan erections are way

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better. That's what I got. There

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was like a whole segment on it.

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Yeah.

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If you're looking for that kind of

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motivation, it's definitely worth

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a try.

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Vegetables, the new Viagra.

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That's what they say.

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That's what they say.

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That's pretty much the game changers

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tagline, I think.

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I think that's going to be the vegan

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version of the gut milk campaign.

9:34

Next up, plant protein isn't complete

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and isn't as good as animal protein.

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Again, we come back to a little bit

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of truth in the kind of myth here,

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because this is technically true.

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A lot of plant proteins aren't what

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they would consider complete. And

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the quality as far as the amino acid

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profile is a little less than animal

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proteins, but a lot of the time it

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doesn't actually end up mattering

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for practical purposes.

10:04

You know why that is, though, right? Why is that?

10:06

Okay, so basically what I read is,

10:06

like, needs, like. So basically,

10:06

if you wanted the best protein, you'd

10:06

be a cannibal, right? You'd eat human

10:06

meat to get, like, a full, complete

10:06

protein, because humans are eating

10:06

the full, complete protein, so their

10:06

bodies are made up of the full, complete

10:06

protein. And that's the same for

10:06

animals. Animals are eating all these

10:06

vegetables, or like, grains, whatever,

10:06

that make up complete proteins in

10:06

their body. And that's what you would

10:06

be eating if you were eating animals.

10:06

So you just need to eat better, and

10:06

then you'll have complete proteins

10:06

with non animal products, or you

10:06

can be a cannibal.

10:47

We need to see some studies on cannibalism,

10:47

protein efficiency, for sure.

10:51

Yeah.

10:54

For one, all plant foods and really

10:54

all foods that have protein actually

10:54

have all 20 amino acids. So everything

10:54

has all the amino acids. Complete

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protein really just means, does it

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have a high enough percentage threshold

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of each of those amino acids to meet

10:54

basically a predetermined number?

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So there are a lot of things. For

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an example, satan is not considered

10:54

a complete protein, but it's only

10:54

because it's lacking in one amino

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acid, which is lysine. So it's got

10:54

everything else it needs. It just

10:54

is a little lacking on lysine. Lysine,

10:54

though, comes in beans and tofu and

10:54

lentils and all kinds of other stuff.

10:54

So basically, if you eat soy and

10:54

you also eat satan, you're going

10:54

to get that lysine anyway. So it

10:54

doesn't really matter that there

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is not the lysine in satan.

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Right.

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So you don't have to get all the

11:42

amino acids at once. You don't even

11:42

have to necessarily combine those

11:42

foods at the same time. It's just

11:42

throughout the days and weeks your

11:42

body needs to have all, especially

11:42

the essential amino acids available

11:42

to it. And so eating, again, a variety

11:42

of foods will get you this total

11:42

big picture complete protein profile,

11:42

even if the individual foods technically

11:42

don't qualify as complete proteins.

12:07

Yeah, you can think of it like an

12:07

amino acid pool party in your body.

12:07

They just all chill out until your

12:07

body's ready to take them all together.

12:16

I like that.

12:16

That's good.

12:17

A pool party.

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A little pool party, yeah.

12:20

But if you are interested in single

12:20

source complete proteins on a vegan

12:20

diet, soy and quinoa are on their

12:20

own complete proteins and buckwheat.

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Although I've never used buckwheat.

12:30

Don't know what to do with buckwheat.

12:33

I think I've had buckwheat pancakes.

12:35

I have too. I think they had them

12:35

at home to sweets back when I was

12:35

a vegetarian.

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Oh, and also, one more thing. Even

12:40

if you only ate satan, and satan

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was lacking in lysine on a percentage

12:40

basis, if you were in a caloric surplus

12:40

and you just ate a whole lot of satan,

12:40

you would still get a lot of lysine.

12:40

You just wouldn't get maybe as much

12:40

as is optimal to build muscle if

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you were eating sources that also

12:40

contained those amino acids that

12:40

it's missing.

13:01

Yeah.

13:01

And another thing you can do is eaas,

13:01

right? Isn't that like, the whole

13:01

point?

13:05

Yeah.

13:05

An EA supplement has all the essential

13:05

amino acids in there in a pretty

13:05

high quantity. So if you're worried

13:05

that maybe you're eating the same

13:05

thing over and over, like, if you

13:05

do eat a bunch of satan, you can

13:05

take a supplement like that and you

13:05

would know, okay, I'm getting some

13:05

lysine from somewhere for sure. And

13:05

it just helps increase the diversity

13:05

of your amino acid pool party.

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And they come in fun flavors.

13:28

Yeah, there are a lot of good flavors.

13:28

I like all the sour ones. A lot of

13:28

the eaas come in like the sour watermelon,

13:28

sour lemonade flavors. All right,

13:28

next myth. Being vegan is hard. Now,

13:28

would you say being vegan is hard?

13:41

In some ways, yes. Socially, yes.

13:41

But I am pretty introverted, so I

13:41

actually find it to be kind of helpful.

13:50

Yeah, the social stuff doesn't really

13:50

bother me, but the convenience factor

13:50

is. I think I would qualify that

13:50

as hard. But actually being vegan

13:50

isn't really that bad. I mean, there's

13:50

a lot of snacks and stuff, even if

13:50

you want that we can eat here and

13:50

get from the grocery store a lot

13:50

of vegan stuff. But if you're just

13:50

like, man, I don't have anything

13:50

in the house, I don't really feel

13:50

like cooking. Trying to just go somewhere

13:50

and get high quality vegan food is

13:50

really difficult unless you're in

13:50

the middle of a big city.

14:19

Right. Like our natural gas went

14:19

out last week and so we couldn't

14:19

cook. And yeah, pretty limited options.

14:19

We just had to do what, hummus and

14:19

falafel? That's pretty much all we

14:19

had that was a vegan option near

14:19

us.

14:33

Yeah. So, yeah, for sure, that part does

14:33

suck.

14:36

Yeah, it takes a little bit of extra

14:36

planning, even in the best of circumstances,

14:36

to eat healthily. But honestly, even

14:36

if you're not a vegan, it takes extra

14:36

planning to eat healthily.

14:45

Right.

14:45

And I don't feel like that there's

14:45

really much of a difference. It's

14:45

still the same kind of thing. You

14:45

cook your own food, you try not to

14:45

eat out very much. And in our case,

14:45

we just don't have the option to

14:45

eat out very much. So that kind of

14:45

makes it a little easier.

14:56

Yeah.

14:56

I mean, if you were going to be a

14:56

junk food vegan, you could eat nothing

14:56

but oreos and it would be just as

14:56

convenient as being a junk food omnivore.

14:56

So, yeah, trying to do it healthy

14:56

is always going to take more time.

15:06

Right. Plus, there are a ton of vegan

15:06

recipe sites out there. Vegansfitness.com

15:06

is one of them.

15:12

You should really go check that out.

15:14

But out there, there are lots of

15:14

easy, delicious, even quick recipes

15:14

that you can make. Even with vegan

15:14

ingredients. It's the same as cooking

15:14

with non vegan ingredients. Really?

15:25

Oh, for sure. Honestly, one of our

15:25

go to's is just that Alfredo with

15:25

the tofu sauce and that takes like

15:25

15 minutes. And it is super healthy,

15:25

super high on protein, really easy

15:25

to make. And I think it tastes really

15:25

great.

15:39

Yeah.

15:39

And it's definitely not any harder

15:39

than making a non vegan pasta. It's

15:39

the same process.

15:43

I think it's actually easier because

15:43

you're blending tofu. No, that's

15:43

true in a lot of ways. Some of this

15:43

stuff can be easier because you're

15:43

just blending shit where you'd normally

15:43

be, like making a roux or whatever.

15:53

Okay, so next up is being vegan is

15:53

expensive. If you're eating whole

15:53

foods like we tried to do to be healthy,

15:53

it is obviously a little more expensive

15:53

than normal commodity food.

16:05

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's definitely

16:05

more expensive than eating 2000 calories

16:05

a day in Doritos.

16:10

Yeah. Right. Yeah. But I think even

16:10

if you're not vegan and you're trying

16:10

to eat healthy whole foods, the prices

16:10

are really similar. I haven't noticed

16:10

anything that's really egregiously

16:10

more expensive on the vegan side.

16:23

Yeah, I mean, if you are really sticking

16:23

to a lot of meat and dairy substitutes,

16:23

it is going to get expensive. Like

16:23

very expensive.

16:32

The meat replacements are very expensive.

16:34

The dairy ones can be too, like those

16:34

specialty products. But I mean, honestly,

16:34

you got to learn how to cook. You

16:34

need to learn how to cook and you

16:34

need to not rely on those. And if

16:34

you're not relying on those, it's

16:34

not, in my opinion, any more expensive

16:34

than an omnivore diet.

16:51

Yeah, I mean, we've got a lot of

16:51

big staples in like oats, TVP beans

16:51

and rice. And those things are all

16:51

notoriously very low priced.

16:58

Wheat gluten flour is pretty cheap.

16:58

You can make satan yourself. Satan

16:58

yourself.

17:05

Yeah. And the plant milks are kind

17:05

of the same price range as like the

17:05

premium dairy milks. I mean, it's

17:05

definitely not going to be as cheap

17:05

as the store brand.

17:13

And I think even on the non dairy

17:13

milks, you can make those yourself

17:13

without having a cow in your house.

17:13

So that's exciting. You can milk

17:13

the almonds with your own hands,

17:13

get those little almond teeth and

17:13

milk them. I have nipples, Greg.

17:13

Can you milk me?

17:32

All right.

17:34

Okay. Yeah.

17:35

The last kind of thing you might

17:35

hear, and it does kind of fall more

17:35

towards the myth side, is people

17:35

say either, like, I could never eat

17:35

vegan food or I've never eaten vegan

17:35

food before. Well, okay, so you definitely

17:35

have, right? Some popular ones. Peanut

17:35

butter and jelly sandwiches, baked

17:35

potatoes, oreos, every vegetable

17:35

you've ever eaten. I mean, unless

17:35

it was cooked in butter or something.

17:35

Right. Movie theater popcorn is usually

17:35

vegan. I mean, you are definitely

17:35

eating vegan food all the time.

18:04

All the time.

18:05

And that's because vegan food is

18:05

not special food. It's just the food

18:05

that doesn't include the animal products

18:05

like meat and stuff.

18:13

Yeah.

18:13

So I mean to say you could never

18:13

eat the vegan food or you've never

18:13

eaten vegan food. You're eating it

18:13

all the time. Even if you don't really

18:13

think about it like that.

18:22

Yeah.

18:22

This one's always been extra funny

18:22

to me because you get this a lot.

18:22

Like, I could never eat vegan. And

18:22

it's like, you probably ate vegan

18:22

yesterday.

18:32

Yeah.

18:32

The only special food we have is

18:32

really, like, soy stuff, like tofu.

18:32

And I'm not even really sure why

18:32

that is associated with vegains specifically,

18:32

because anybody could eat tofu or

18:32

soy or.

18:46

Anything and not even could.

18:48

They.

18:49

They should. Because honestly, the

18:49

macros are amazing. Everyone should

18:49

be using that silken tofu.

18:55

I mean, there are so many things.

18:55

If I would have known how good silken

18:55

tofu was for things.

19:00

Or TVP.

19:00

Or TVP. You could just put it in

19:00

so much stuff and there's not really

19:00

a food like that. That's not those

19:00

things. So I'm not really sure how

19:00

soy got pigeonholed into being a

19:00

vegan and vegetarian thing instead

19:00

of just another protein option for

19:00

everybody.

19:18

Right. Like another protein tool.

19:21

Yeah.

19:21

I think omnivores need to pick up

19:21

on tofu and TVP because they are

19:21

missing out. Like, it is pretty handy

19:21

in the kitchen for sure.

19:29

All right, so we hope that helps

19:29

you kind of have some conversations

19:29

about veganism or maybe even think

19:29

through some hesitations you were

19:29

having or just generally any questions

19:29

you might have. All right, so we've

19:29

got a couple of recipes coming out,

19:29

so we're going to talk about those

19:29

a little bit. The first one we made

19:29

that's really good, and you can see

19:29

it on the website, is the strawberry

19:29

cheesecake.

19:47

Yeah.

19:48

It's a strawberry chocolate cheesecake.

19:50

Yeah, chocolate. Right.

19:52

It'd be really good for Valentine's

19:52

Day. Hint, hint. Maybe you should

19:52

make it for me.

19:58

Yeah.

19:59

So this was really super good. And

19:59

it has actual chunks of whole strawberry

19:59

in there. It's not just like some

19:59

weird strawberry flavoring or anything.

19:59

So it's got the streaks, you can

19:59

see it looks really pretty and red.

19:59

And obviously it tastes awesome.

20:11

Yeah.

20:12

And it's got a chocolate TVP crust

20:12

and the filling is made out of silken

20:12

tofu.

20:16

Yeah. Also the. Did we mention chocolate

20:16

strawberry cheesecake is 32% protein.

20:23

Right.

20:24

These cheesecakes are getting better

20:24

every time. I don't really understand

20:24

how you keep doing it, but really

20:24

happy. All right, next up, we made

20:24

a nice fajita bowl. So you want to

20:24

talk about that a little bit?

20:39

Yeah.

20:40

So we used seasoned TVP as, like,

20:40

the rice that you put it on for extra

20:40

protein and then black beans and

20:40

then some sauteed green peppers,

20:40

mushrooms, onions, and like, a little

20:40

sprinkling of vegan cheese. And I

20:40

thought it turned out really well.

20:58

Yeah, no, I'm hungry. Thank you for that.

21:00

Yeah, it was really easy to make

21:00

too. Like, super quick.

21:04

Yeah, that was really good. You could

21:04

probably meal prep, something like

21:04

that.

21:08

Oh, yeah, for sure.

21:09

You can put another one, obviously,

21:09

with fajito bowls, you can do whatever.

21:09

You can eat it with chips. Put it

21:09

in a burrito, put it in a taco, eat

21:09

it just straight out of the bowl.

21:16

Yeah.

21:16

You could put on your calories for

21:16

the day.

21:18

Could put in a tortilla. It'd be

21:18

pretty good in a tortilla.

21:21

And then the last one we had were

21:21

some banana nut TBP muffins.

21:25

Dude, we just made those this morning

21:25

and I thought they were pretty good.

21:29

Yeah, I think they're probably the

21:29

best. We've got a couple of these

21:29

TVP muffins so far. I think this

21:29

is the best form of that so far.

21:29

The banana is really good flavor

21:29

in these.

21:38

Yeah, it's a really good, strong

21:38

flavor. Can't even tell there's TVP.

21:38

Kind of tastes like oatmeal.

21:43

Yeah. Or like my friend said, it kind of

21:44

feels like a muffin meets, like,

21:44

one of those oatmeal no bake cookies.

21:44

And I think that's a pretty good

21:44

description.

21:56

Yeah.

21:57

And they're not necessarily high

21:57

protein. I think they're like 18%

21:57

or something. But they have a decent

21:57

amount of protein and it doesn't

21:57

compromise on the flavor or anything

21:57

like adding some protein powder would.

21:57

So, I mean, best of both worlds,

21:57

in my opinion.

22:09

Yeah, I agree.

22:11

Okay, so that's what we have on the

22:11

recipe front, and I think that is

22:11

it for this week. Next week we'll

22:11

be back with another topic to carry

22:11

you through veganuary. And as always,

22:11

if you have any questions, feel free

22:11

to reach out to us on the website.

22:11

You can leave comments, reach out

22:11

to us on social media, or you can

22:11

just email [email protected]

22:11

and you can find all that information

22:11

in the show notes. So I think that's

22:11

it. And I hope everybody has a good

22:11

week. Do you want to say bye?

22:38

Bye?

22:38

Bye, everybody.