We interview both vegan psychologist Clare Mann from Australia and also Paula Richter, a psychologist from Sweden working as Climate Psychologist. Both are vegans and are experienced in the anxiety and frustration vegans can feel in a non-vegan world. We talk about the difficulties – in terms of mental stress that vegans and especially vegan activists can feel and how to deal with it.We get advice on communication and we learn that being active for a good cause - is a key to tackle the frustrations.We also try to understand how vegans, can feel so bad about animal industry and other people can choose to work within it.The episode also covers news and some reflections on mink farming.The podcast is produced by Minal Parekh Nygårds and was previously in her native language Swedish - but has now swapped to only be in English. The podcast series covers business, news, society, trends and much more - from a vegan perspective. The podcast can be found on youtube, Spotify, podbean, ITunes and most podcast platforms. The official website is Veganpodden.se.