0:01

Welcome. It is Verdict with Center. Ted

0:03

Cruz ben Ferguson with you, Senator.

0:06

Nice to be with you as always. And

0:08

there is new intel coming out that the Biden

0:10

administration may be welcoming a whole

0:12

lot of refugees from Gaza as

0:15

part of their new plan.

0:16

Well, that's exactly right. There's breaking news

0:18

that the Biden White House is considering allowing

0:20

refugees to come from Gaza, which would

0:22

be an enormous national security

0:25

thread. It makes no sense at all. We're going to

0:27

talk about that and examine what they're talking about.

0:30

We also now have new data

0:32

on the cities that the Biden administration

0:34

is flying illegal immigrants too all

0:36

over the country. We've got numbers and breakdown. We're

0:39

going to get into that. And finally, we're

0:41

going to talk about a new bill that I've introduced. It's

0:43

a bipartisan bill designed to

0:45

limit kids access to social media,

0:47

and in particular to stop young kids from getting

0:49

on social media and to protect kids

0:51

from all the negative influences that can be found

0:53

on social media. We're going to discuss that as well.

0:56

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this plan. And I'm still

2:36

trying to get my head around what the play

2:38

is here politically, except that they're

2:41

trying to signal to young people that are on these college

2:43

campuses, Hey, we're not in favor

2:46

of Israel by any means, stick

2:48

with us. And then while all that's

2:50

going on, they signal that we're going to allow a bunch of

2:52

refugees to come to America.

2:54

Why.

2:55

Look, it is absolutely crazy. The

2:57

White House has put out a

2:59

store. Here's the CBS headline,

3:01

quote, white House considers welcoming

3:04

some Palestinians from war torn Gaza

3:06

as refugees. And what CBS

3:09

reported is quote the Biden administration is

3:11

considering bringing certain Palestinians to

3:13

the US's refugees, a move

3:15

that would offer a permanent safe haven to some

3:17

of those fleeing war torn Gaza, according

3:19

to internal federal government documents obtained

3:22

by CBS News in recent

3:24

weeks, the document show senior US

3:27

officials across several federal agencies

3:29

have discussed the practicality of different

3:31

options to resettle Palestinians

3:34

from Gaza who have immediate family members

3:36

who are American citizens or permanent

3:38

residents. One of those proposals

3:41

involves using the decades old United

3:43

States Refugee Admissions program

3:46

to welcome Palestinians with US

3:48

ties who have managed to escape Gaza and enter

3:51

neighboring Egypt. According to the interagency

3:53

planning documents, top US

3:55

officials have also discussed getting additional

3:57

Palestinians out of Gaza and

4:00

processing them as refugees if they have American

4:02

relatives. The document show the

4:04

plan would require coordination with Egypt, which

4:06

is so far refused to welcome large numbers

4:09

of people from Gaza. So understand

4:12

this, Egypt,

4:14

which is a direct

4:16

neighbor of Gaza, is saying we

4:18

don't want these refugees here. And by the way, the reason

4:20

the refugees don't want the Egyptians

4:23

don't want them there is they're afraid of terrorism.

4:25

They're afraid that there are too many Hamas

4:28

terrorists that are part

4:30

of the so called refugees, and they

4:33

don't want them committing acts of terrorism

4:35

and violence in Egypt, and

4:38

yet the Biden administration is saying,

4:40

well, heck, we'd love to have them here, like

4:43

like this is a

4:45

level of insanity. In the wake

4:48

of October seventh, and the wake of

4:50

this grotesque terror attack

4:52

that murdered twelve hundred Israelis, that murdered

4:55

Americans, that raped women

4:57

and little girls, the reaction of

4:59

the Biden w light house is well, we need

5:01

to welcome more of these folks into America.

5:03

Yeah, And the timing of this is incredibly

5:06

questionable. You look at what the crackdowns

5:09

that were finally seeing on college campuses

5:11

right now, Senator, we're saying hundreds

5:14

that have been arrested, for example Columbia,

5:16

other universities where this is happening as

5:18

well, And the timing seems to be in

5:20

essence perfect, like, hey, we're still

5:22

with you guys. I know you guys are kind

5:24

of getting rid of your encampments and you're getting

5:27

arrested, but just know we

5:29

really are on your side.

5:32

Well, it really is remarkable how

5:34

terrified that the so called

5:36

mainstream Democrats are of ticking

5:39

off the radical left in their party. The

5:42

Democrat Party has a problem right now.

5:44

It has a hard anti Semitism

5:46

problem. There is literally a pro Haamas

5:49

wing of the Democrat Party.

5:52

And we've

5:54

talked about this before. It's not just the

5:56

squad, it's not just the radicals.

5:59

Joe is terrified of

6:01

them. Chuck Schumer is terrified of them.

6:03

Nancy Pelosi is terrified

6:05

of them. And they are really they're

6:08

really setting the agendas. Why Joe

6:11

Biden has so

6:13

so carefully avoided

6:15

speaking out with any clarity

6:18

on the topic because he wants

6:20

he wants the votes of

6:22

the anti Israel, the anti Semitic protesters.

6:25

He's trying to to to get support

6:27

from them, and he

6:30

and the other Democrats view that as a major

6:32

portion of today's Democrat Party.

6:34

What does the oversight look like and

6:36

can they go around Congress completely

6:38

to allow refugees in from

6:41

from guys as specifically, how

6:43

many could this be? How big

6:45

could this program get?

6:47

Well, we don't know the answers to that right now.

6:49

I will tell you in the Senate the

6:51

chances of their being meaningful oversight

6:54

is is really quite low. The

6:58

The White House gave a statement

7:00

to CBS on Tuesday night that

7:03

said the US has quote

7:05

helped more than eighteen hundred American citizens

7:08

and their families leave Gaza, many of whom have

7:10

come to the United States at President

7:12

Biden's direction. We have also helped and will continue

7:15

to help some particularly vulnerable individuals,

7:17

such as children with serious health problems and children

7:20

who are receiving treatment for cancer, get out of harm's

7:22

way and receive care at nearby

7:24

hospitals in the region. The statement

7:26

went on to say that the US quote categorically

7:29

rejects any actions leading to the forced

7:31

relocation of Palestinians from Gaza or

7:33

the West Bank, or the redrawing of

7:35

the borders of Gaza. The best pass forward is

7:37

to achieve a sustainable ceasefire through a

7:39

hostage deal that will stabilize

7:42

the situation and pave the way to a two

7:44

state solution. So the

7:46

White House, remember, these are internal

7:48

documents from the government

7:50

where they're discussing plans. Hey, how

7:52

many refugees can we bring from Gaza

7:55

to America? And you've got US

7:57

officials going back and forth on different programs

7:59

they can used to do that. It's

8:02

not clear who chose to leak those

8:04

documents or what

8:06

their motivation was. The motivation could well

8:08

be what you suggested it could have been a political decision

8:11

by the White House to show

8:13

some love to the pro Hamas

8:16

wing of the Democrat Party, and that

8:18

may well have been part of the motivation. But

8:21

in terms of oversight, look, the sad thing

8:23

is in the Senate. As long as Chuck Schumer is

8:25

the majority leader, he has

8:28

zero interest on oversight on this question.

8:30

The Democrats have zero interest on oversight

8:33

on this question. Remember, just a couple of weeks ago,

8:35

I forced a vote on the Senate floor

8:37

to block the

8:40

Biden administration from giving additional

8:42

billions of dollars to Iran to the

8:44

Ayahtola. And by the way, Iran

8:47

funds ninety percent of a MAAS. So

8:49

it was a very simple amendment, stop giving money

8:51

that goes to Hamas to kill Jews

8:54

and to kill Americans. And

8:58

every single Democrat at

9:00

but one voted no. That's where

9:02

they are so on bringing people

9:05

from Gaza who could be terrorists, who could

9:07

endanger the safety of American citizens

9:09

here. It does not surprise

9:12

me that's what this administration is talking

9:14

about doing, because it's clear that's

9:17

where their sympathies and their loyalties

9:19

lie.

9:19

And the rhetoric's going to be exactly what you described,

9:21

Senator. They're going to say, look, there's

9:24

a lot of people that are innocent, you should be

9:26

compassionate and loving, and those

9:28

that need, you know, for humanitarian

9:30

reasons. But seventy

9:32

two percent of Palatinians believe quote

9:34

that Hamasa's decision to launch

9:36

the October seventh attack was correct,

9:39

which goes back to what you were saying a moment

9:41

ago about other countries in the regions,

9:43

saying we don't want these

9:45

refugees here because we're afraid about terrorism.

9:47

Well, if seventy two percent of Palatinans believe

9:49

that Hamas's decision to launch the attack was

9:52

the right decision, then we have a real concern

9:54

about who may be coming into this country.

9:57

Well, that's exactly right. And by the way, the polling

9:59

your sighting. That's the results

10:02

of the latest polls by the Palestinian Center

10:04

for Policy and Survey Research, and

10:07

it was conducted in the West Bank and the Gaza

10:09

Strip between November twenty second and December

10:12

second of two thousand and three,

10:14

and that period witnessed

10:17

the October seventh launch. So this was

10:20

a little bit over a month after October

10:22

seventh, and I

10:25

got to tell you those numbers seventy

10:28

two percent. The sample size of the poll was twelve

10:30

hundred and thirty one adults, of

10:32

whom seven hundred and fifty were interviewed face

10:34

to face in the West Bank and four hundred and eighty one

10:36

in the Gaza Strip in one hundred and twenty one randomly

10:39

selected locations. And

10:41

so if you look at this, and we also

10:43

know in the Gaza Strip, residents

10:46

were interviewed in twenty four shelter locations,

10:48

of which twenty belonged to UNRA, the

10:50

UN agency that Hamas

10:53

terrorist worked for and

10:55

for to governmental institutions. A total of

10:57

two hundred and fifty interviews were covered in these shelters.

11:00

Is another twenty one were conducted in the homes of relatives

11:02

and friends of displaced people from

11:04

the North and the numbers

11:08

findings indicate that a majority of respondents

11:10

believe that Hamas's decision to carry out the offensive

11:13

is correct and believe

11:15

that the attack came in response to quote,

11:17

settler attacks on the al Asqua

11:20

Mosque and West Bank residents and for the

11:23

release of Palestinian prisoners. Those

11:26

numbers, and it goes on to say the poll

11:28

says it is worth noting that there are significant

11:30

differences between the attitudes of the residents

11:32

of the West Bank compared to the Gaza Strip in terms

11:35

of the correctness of Hamasa's

11:37

decisions, as the attitude of

11:39

Gazans tend to show a greater degree of skepticism

11:42

of that decision. I'll tell you the

11:44

videos I've watched of October seventh,

11:46

when Hamas terrorists are coming back to

11:48

Gaza, and they're coming

11:50

back to Gaza and they're bringing Israeli

11:52

hostages. They're bringing women, they're bringing

11:54

children that are beaten, that are bleeding. Some

11:56

of them have gunshot wounds, some of them have

11:59

have, you know, very very serious

12:01

injuries. They're dragging them out

12:04

of the truck into the truck.

12:06

Uh.

12:06

Some of them have have injuries that are

12:08

consistent with with with violent

12:12

forcible rape. They're they're bleeding,

12:14

uh from from their bleeding

12:18

from where they would being the victims of those

12:20

kinds of attacks. And the

12:22

reactions ben of

12:25

Palestinians and gaza Is. You

12:27

see hundreds of them cheering

12:30

in celebration as they are watching

12:32

these hostages dragged out clearly

12:36

suffering serious abuse. And

12:38

and we're not talking just the Hamas terrorists.

12:40

We're talking just in the town square

12:42

when they come back that the reaction

12:45

is cheering. Who

12:47

the hell in their right mind would say,

12:49

you know, what we really need is

12:52

the people committing these atrocities, the people

12:54

cheering on these atrocities. We need

12:56

them here in America. That sounds like a great

12:58

idea.

12:59

Yeah.

13:00

And then the other question I have for your

13:02

final question on this is we've seen

13:04

this administration be incredibly deceptive

13:06

towards the American people, towards the taxpayers.

13:09

We've seen them fly flights at which we're

13:11

going to talk about in a minute, into

13:13

random cities in America without

13:16

giving notice to those cities. I'm

13:18

assuming if they want to start importing people

13:20

from Gaza, they would use the same exact tactics

13:23

as they've been using all over the country in the middle of

13:25

the night.

13:27

I think that is absolutely right. They would

13:29

do it surreptitiously, they would hide it. That's

13:31

how they've handled this border invasion.

13:34

They lie about it. Alojandro Majorca still

13:36

says our southern border is secure. They're perfectly

13:38

happy to lie about it. And listen.

13:41

From day one, the Biden administration

13:43

has undermined Israel and has sent money

13:47

to people who hate us and people who want

13:49

to kill us. They've sent billions of dollars to Iran,

13:51

They've sent hundreds of millions of dollars to

13:54

Gaza that in turn has an

13:56

almost almost certainly

13:59

flowed to Hamas. And

14:01

they want to continue doing that. That that is

14:03

their commitment, and so I think I

14:06

think this threat is real. These people are zealous.

14:08

These are also people who look at

14:11

the viciously anti Semitic

14:13

protests at Columbia and Yale and NYU

14:15

and UCLA and say, you know what,

14:18

we're with those folks, and we need more people

14:20

like them.

14:22

And it's really.

14:25

I think this is really revealing

14:28

a divide that is frightening and scary,

14:31

and it's not a divide that

14:33

normal people in their normal lives encounter.

14:36

It is the radicals who are more

14:38

and more taking over the Democrat

14:40

Party. And Ben I want to dig

14:42

a little bit more into these poll results because they're

14:44

deeply concerning. So the results of the poll,

14:46

as you noted's seventy two percent of

14:49

the public believe that Hamas's decisions to decision

14:52

to launch the October seventh attack was correct.

14:55

A majority fifty three percent believe

14:57

that Israel's war objective is to destroy

15:00

the Gaza Strip and to kill or expel

15:02

its residents, and forty two percent

15:04

believe it is to take revenge on Hamas and

15:06

the resistance and to destroy them. A

15:09

majority believes Israel will fail to

15:11

achieve these goals. Eighty

15:13

five percent have not seen any videos

15:16

showing atrocities committed by Hamas

15:18

against Israeli citizens. On October seventh

15:21

and over, only seven percent

15:24

say Hamas committed atrocities against

15:26

Israeli civilians. Let me repeat

15:28

that, because that is horrifying.

15:31

They did a poll of Palestinians

15:34

in the Gaza Strip in the West Bank and

15:36

only seven percent will

15:39

admit that Hamas committed atrocities

15:41

against Israeli civilians. So they're

15:44

truthers who are denying October seventh

15:47

even happen. Seventy

15:49

percent seven zero percent of

15:51

West Bankers and half of Gazans

15:54

expect Hamas to emerge victorious.

15:59

That is deeply frightening.

16:01

And the Biden administration is

16:04

talking about wanting to

16:06

bring to America a group of people

16:08

of whom ninety three percent of

16:10

them deny that Hamas

16:13

committed atrocities against civilians, which

16:15

is indisputable. They filmed it and

16:17

put out the videos. They're very proud of it,

16:19

and yet that this

16:21

population is so radicalized

16:24

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16:26

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18:17

Senator, I want to pivot to something we just

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mentioned a moment ago, and that was, there's

18:23

real consensus and the polling data

18:25

that Biden's border policy and

18:27

specifically when it comes to safety

18:29

and national security issues, is

18:31

disastrous. But we're learning now

18:34

more about internal

18:36

Department of Homeland Security data revealing

18:38

the forty five plus US cities

18:41

that hundreds of thousands

18:43

of migrants have flown into via

18:46

the Biden administration's per mass

18:49

parole program that they refused

18:51

to disclose the public where all

18:54

of these illegal immigrants are being dropped

18:56

off, and you apparently have no right

18:58

to know who they are or even where

19:00

they're coming from.

19:01

Well, that's exactly right, Ben, and we did a

19:03

pod on this topic when when

19:05

the story first broke about the Biden administration's

19:08

program that wasn't just dealing

19:10

with illegal immigrants who crossed the border and

19:12

stream across our southern border, but actually

19:14

was arranging flights to come

19:17

in for illegal immigrants to come into cities

19:19

all across the country. And at the time, the Biden administration's

19:21

position was, we're not going to tell

19:23

you where they're coming. We can't tell you because

19:26

it's a national security risk, and so they

19:28

refused to tell us. Well, we now have data

19:31

from DHS that

19:33

that covers an eight month period, so it is

19:36

from January through August of twenty

19:38

twenty three, and there are

19:40

about two hundred thousand illegal immigrants

19:42

who flew into the US using the program.

19:45

And we have the breakdown.

19:47

Let me give you the top fifteen cities and how many

19:49

came. The number one city the Biden administration

19:51

flew people illegal immigrants into was

19:53

Miami, Florida ninety

19:55

one, eight hundred and twenty one. The

19:58

number two city, Fort Lawerdale,

20:00

Florida, sixty thousand,

20:02

four hundred and sixty one. The

20:05

number three city, New York City fourteen

20:07

thousand, eight hundred and twenty seven. Number four

20:10

You're in my hometown Houston, Texas

20:12

seven thousand, nine hundred and twenty three. Number

20:14

five Orlando, Florida six

20:17

thousand and forty three, Number six

20:19

Los Angeles, California three thousand,

20:21

two hundred and seventy one. Number seven Tampa,

20:23

Florida three thousand, two hundred

20:25

and thirty seven. Number eight Dallas,

20:27

Texas two thousand, two hundred and fifty six.

20:30

Number nine San Francisco, California

20:32

two thousand and fifty two, Number ten Atlanta,

20:35

Georgia one thousand, seven hundred

20:37

ninety six, Number eleven, Newark,

20:39

New Jersey, one thousand, four hundred

20:41

ninety eight, Number twelve, Washington,

20:43

d C. One thousand, four hundred and seventy two,

20:45

Number thirteen, Chicago, Illinois,

20:48

four hundred and ninety seven, Number fourteen,

20:50

Las Vegas, Nevada, four hundred eighty three,

20:53

and number fifteen. Rounding out the top fifteen

20:56

Austin, Texas with one hundred

20:58

and seventy one. And so

21:00

those are now what's striking. They're

21:03

sending the vast majority of the illegal

21:05

immigrants in this program to Florida and Texas.

21:07

Florida is getting hammered. Just

21:10

Miami and Fort Lauderdale have over one hundred

21:12

and fifty thousand that are

21:14

going there. And actually blue cities and blue

21:16

states get relatively few, so

21:19

they're really hammering Florida

21:22

and Texas. That's one

21:24

obvious conclusion of this. A

21:27

second conclusion, Look,

21:31

the White House is trying to spend well, no,

21:33

no, these are not illegal immigrants because we're

21:35

letting them in using legal authorities. Well,

21:37

I can tell you that that in

21:39

litigation. Here's what DHS

21:42

wrote in response

21:44

to a subpoena quote. DHS said all

21:47

individuals paroled into the United States

21:49

are by definition inadmissible,

21:51

including those paroled under the CHNV

21:54

processes, which is what this program

21:56

is. And to give you

21:59

a sense of the

22:01

numbers on this program,

22:04

CBP says at least four hundred

22:06

and four thousand illegal immigrants have flown to the

22:08

US using this program, and the

22:10

breakdown we know of one hundred

22:13

and fifty four thousand Haitians, ninety

22:16

five thousand Venezuelans, eighty

22:19

four thousand Cubans, and sixty

22:21

nine thousand Nicaraguans.

22:24

This is again the reason why

22:27

they were trying to hide this. It's also the

22:29

reason why they have not been informing

22:31

state we're talking about governors or

22:34

local municipalities of who they're bringing

22:36

in, because they knew there would probably be a

22:39

lot of people that would say, no, we don't want

22:41

to deal with this, No, please don't drop them off

22:43

here.

22:45

Well, that's right, and it's interesting also,

22:47

So the number three city was New York City, and

22:49

then the number again was fourteen, eight hundred

22:51

and twenty seven, so it was a lot less than went to Miami

22:53

or Fort Lauderdale. What's interesting,

22:55

though, is is we know that the

22:58

mayor of New York, a liberal Democrat who

23:00

has declared at a crisis, said it's an emergency,

23:02

said illegal immigration is destroying

23:05

New York City. He has blamed

23:08

what he called that madman from

23:10

Texas, and as we've

23:12

talked about, I'm actually

23:14

disappointed that he's talking about Greg Abbott, not

23:16

me. I wonder what I have to do to qualify

23:20

for that insult from the mayor of New York City.

23:23

But Texas has sent to New York

23:25

City roughly ten thousand illegal immigrants.

23:27

So if he's blaming that

23:30

mad man, well, Joe Biden has sent

23:32

fourteen, eight hundred and twenty seven and that's

23:34

just using this one program that doesn't measure

23:37

the other thousands that Biden has sent

23:39

that crossed the border illegally on the southern border,

23:41

and that Biden put on a bus or a plane. But

23:44

yet the Democrat mayor of New York can't actually

23:46

blame the person responsible, which

23:48

is Biden and for that matter, Chuck Schumer

23:50

and every other Democrat in Congress.

23:52

Will this change that moved the needle

23:54

at all? Do you think?

23:55

Because we know where may Adams has now been

23:57

saying, and we know about even in places like

24:00

Colorado where they're having to get rid

24:02

of people in law enforcement for goodness sakes,

24:04

and letting people go in New York to cover

24:07

for the cost that it is to take care

24:09

of all of these illegal immigrants. At

24:12

least seeing the disclosures and the

24:14

number of people involved, could this move

24:16

the needle a little bit?

24:18

Well, ask yourself this, how

24:20

many of the home newspapers where this data

24:23

were reported actually covered

24:25

it, How many of them covered it on the front page, How many

24:27

of them had a headline. I feel confident

24:30

that the New York Times in New York City does

24:32

not have a headline Biden administration

24:35

flew fourteen, eight hundred and twenty seven

24:37

illegal immigrants to New York City that I

24:39

would be surprised if you can read it anywhere

24:43

in the New York Times, and if you look at

24:45

newspaper by newspaper. I certainly

24:47

haven't read it in the Chronicle and Houston, Houston was

24:49

number four. It may have been covered to the Chronicle.

24:52

I haven't searched it. But but you

24:54

know, the media doesn't want to cover these numbers.

24:57

You know that Democrats don't want to admit

24:59

these numbers, and so their plan is going to be

25:01

the same as their plan consistently has been,

25:03

which is, ignore the crisis, pretend it's

25:06

not happened, count on the silence and

25:08

complicity of the media to cover

25:10

this up. Because I got to say, if

25:12

you live in any of those fifteen cities, you

25:15

ought to be pissed off. And by the

25:17

way, you know, I gave the numbers

25:20

of the biggest group that has been flown in

25:22

our Haitians, and it was at least

25:24

one hundred and fifty four thousand Haitians. We've

25:26

talked about. One of those Haitians

25:28

was flown to Boston, Massachusetts, and he

25:31

was just recently arrested for

25:33

raping a fifteen year old girl who

25:36

was severely mentally handicapped.

25:39

And I got to say, if you're the parents of that

25:41

girl, and the Biden administration

25:44

literally flew the rapist

25:46

from Haiti to Boston

25:48

and then released him where

25:50

he attacked your daughter, I

25:53

can't imagine the frustration

25:56

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time offer. Finally, Senator, I want to

27:54

get into something else. It's a very

27:56

important piece of legislation that you're

27:58

working on, and I have actually

28:01

seen a little bit of this be talked about

28:03

on social There are some people that

28:05

don't actually think they understand the intent

28:08

of what we're trying to accomplish when it comes

28:10

to protecting kids on social

28:12

media. So explain why this

28:14

legislation is something that parents really

28:17

need to know about.

28:18

Well, this is legislation I introduced this

28:21

week, and it's bipartisan legislation.

28:23

I teamed up with Brian Shotts, who's a Democrat

28:25

from Hawaii, and the bill

28:27

is called the Kids Off Social Media Act, and

28:29

it does several things Number

28:31

one, it prohibits children under

28:33

thirteen from accessing

28:36

social media. So kids, there's no reason

28:38

for an eight or nine year old to be on TikTok

28:41

or to be on social media. And there

28:43

are a lot of harmful things, I'll

28:45

tell you. Listen, you and I are both parents,

28:47

and any parent who is dealing

28:49

with I'm dealing with teenagers. Your kids are not teenagers

28:52

yet, but but if you blink, they will be. Any

28:56

parent dealing with teenagers or adolescents

29:00

out to deal with phones and social

29:02

media is one of the greatest challenges

29:05

because phones are really a portal for kids

29:07

to access all sorts of harmful content.

29:11

And so this bill says if you're under thirteen,

29:13

you can't be on social media. And then it says

29:15

for kids younger than seventeen, big

29:18

tech companies are prohibited from

29:21

using algorithmic boosting

29:24

to send messages to them. So we know

29:26

right now, there's been a lot of testimony in the Senate that

29:28

big tech companies send messages

29:31

to our kids, to our teenagers that

29:33

are really harmful. They send

29:35

messages that undermine their body image,

29:37

they send messages that encourage self

29:39

harm, they send messaging that increases

29:42

suicidal ideation, they send

29:44

messaging that increases

29:48

increases their feelings of depression and

29:50

anxiety. They send messages encouraging

29:53

dangerous behavior. They send messaging

29:55

pushing radical beliefs, things like Prohamas

29:58

beliefs. And so this bill says as if you're

30:00

under seventeen, big tech cannot

30:03

target using algorithm

30:05

boosting to send messages that

30:08

are addicting and that are harmful.

30:11

And then the bill also includes a

30:13

separate bill that I had introduced previously,

30:16

and I introduced it with John Fetterman. It was also

30:18

bipartisan, and my

30:20

separate bill was called the Eyes on the Board

30:22

Bill, and the Eyes on the Board Bill,

30:24

which is now part of this bill, says

30:28

that any school that receives federal

30:30

funds has

30:32

to block social media on campus.

30:34

And the basic idea is, while our kids are in school,

30:37

they ought to be listening to teacher, They ought to be doing school

30:39

work. They don't need to be posting on Instagram

30:42

while they're in school. For

30:44

older kids, they can do that when they get home,

30:46

but at school they ought to be focused on the school

30:48

work.

30:49

Yeah, they should be. And this is legislation

30:51

that you mention is bipartisan. Here what

30:54

does it look like the chances of this moving

30:56

forward since it is a bipartisan piece of

30:58

legislation.

31:00

So I'm actually quite optimistic. We

31:03

are likely to have a markup in the Senate

31:05

Commerce Committee next week. I'm the ranking

31:07

member, the senior Republican on the Commerce Committee,

31:10

and I think it is very likely

31:12

to pass the Commerce Committee with overwhelming

31:15

bipartisan support. I think there's a good chance it'll

31:17

pass unanimously, and

31:19

I think there is a good prospect of this bill

31:21

being passed into law. There are two other bills

31:24

called Coosa and Kappa, that are both

31:26

dealing with things like online predators

31:28

targeting kids, and I think there's

31:30

a real possibility of all three of these bills

31:33

being put together and brought to

31:35

the Senate floor, and I'm hopeful we can pass all

31:37

three of them.

31:38

We'll keep you updated on it.

31:39

It's so important, especially preventing children

31:41

under thirteen from having access

31:43

these social media sites and also,

31:45

as you mentioned, programming those algorithms for teens

31:48

younger than seventeen.

31:50

This is really important.

31:52

Job well done, and we'll keep everybody updated

31:54

on how this looks moving forward.

31:57

Well, that's right, and you look, I'll say something

31:59

also as apparent. I mean, I mean, these are hard

32:01

issues. And one of the things I talk to a lot of

32:03

parents, I don't know a parent who disagrees on

32:05

this issue. And that's true, right

32:07

or left, that's true regardless of politics.

32:10

We're all worried about our kids. I mean, it's really

32:12

it's hard to be a teenager right now. The

32:14

pressures on our kids. You and I

32:17

didn't have these kind of pressures when we were teenagers.

32:19

It's really tough.

32:20

Is what is.

32:23

All of the influences that are pounding our

32:25

kids. And it's hard to be a parent right now. And one of

32:27

the challenges because some people say,

32:29

well, parents ought to just restrict this. Look,

32:31

it is a hard dynamic when your kid

32:34

when every student in their class

32:37

is on the social media platform, when

32:40

that's how the kids communicate, when that's

32:42

how they schedule playdates, when that's how they interact.

32:45

No parent wants to

32:47

socially ostracize their kids.

32:49

And so a lot of parents will talk to each

32:51

other and say, I wish they were all off of

32:53

it, but I'm not willing to have my

32:55

kid the only one that's not able to interact

32:58

with their peers and have a social life, and that's one

33:00

of the reasons why, you know, it's interesting

33:02

in the Senate the folks that are coming together and supporting

33:04

this bill. So myself and

33:07

Brian Shots and we've all also

33:09

got Katie Britt. We're all

33:11

about the same age. We're all in our forties or

33:13

fifties, we all have kids the same age. I have

33:15

to say the senators that they're in their seventies or

33:17

eighties, they don't quite get

33:19

this issue in the same way that if you're a

33:22

parent, you're dealing with it.

33:23

And so I'm.

33:24

Hopeful that that that we'll see

33:26

some real bipartisan agreement that we

33:28

ought to enhance the tools

33:31

parents have to keep their kids safe.

33:33

Yeah, great point.

33:34

We're going to keep you updated on this legislation

33:36

as it moves forward.

33:37

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