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One hundred days into his administration, President
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Biden has finally addressed
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a joint session of Congress sword
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of with a State of the Union address.
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Sword of the room was largely
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empty. There were lots of masks, people
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going in and out. We will cover
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all of that. Senator Cruz rather was
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there in the room, Senator
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any reports. Senator
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Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz. I'm
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Michael Knowles. I have often
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been called boring but radical,
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and Senator I guess you've been getting a lot of that
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these days. You had the
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finest moment of the night. I'm sort
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of damning with faint praise because that
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State of the Union address was unbearable to
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watch, and I could I really
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empathized with you in the room because
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the TV cameras caught you front and
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center dozing off during
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the speech. Well, look, the whole thing was sixty
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three minutes. I'm amazed
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that I didn't sleep more during the speech.
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I mean, I mean it was so.
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It was actually on this podcast about
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a month two months ago, that we
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actually coined the three word summary
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for the Biden administration of boring but radical.
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It was on Verdict, and
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that prediction had proven right, and in
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fact, going into the State of the Union, I did a
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bunch of preview interviews
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where reporters say, okay, well, what's
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tonight going to be? And I said, it's going to be boring
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but radical. I
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didn't realize just how true that was,
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so like in both directions, in
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both the boring side and the radicals. The
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radical didn't surprise me. It was
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I was trying to stay awake
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and it you know, actually
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one of the reasons why it was so boring. So
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there's a weird aspect of State of the
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Unions. And actually you and I talked about this
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last Date of the Union, which
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is there's kind of a game Republicans
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Democrats play. If it's your party, you're
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pop it up like pop goes the weasel on every
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sentence, like yeay, yeay, yeay.
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And what's interesting is
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if you're in the out of power party,
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So if you're a Democrat when Trump's
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president, if you're a Republican, what Obama Biden's
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president. A State
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of the Union is often kind of a complicated
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thing because you're listening to each sentence and try
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to evaluate do I clap, do
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I not clap? Do I stand do I
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not stand? And you know, look, the
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Supreme Court justice is the generals. They kind
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of clap and stand for nothing other than the
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beginning of the speech, and occasionally America
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is good, and then
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there's sort of statements in between. This
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was bizarre. It is the only this is the now the ninth
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State of the Union, or that kind of speech that I've
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been to. There was
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virtually nothing for any Republican
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to clap at. I mean, it
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was strange. There were whole swaths
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of I don't know, seem like ten fifteen minutes
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where we're just sitting there and every
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word out of Biden's mouth is
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directed only to Democrats, and it's
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only Democrats clapping, and he
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wasn't even throwing like a tiny fig leaf
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trying to trying to bring anyone together,
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trying And that's part of why I
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nodded off and and and you
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know, helped the Internet go crazy last night.
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So in terms of the
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big takeaways for people who like
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you, were nodding off, not not in
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the Capitol but in their own homes, what
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are we supposed to make of this? Because
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I almost wish that Biden
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were more overtly
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radical, that he were more exciting because he would
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be calling more people's attention to what
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he's trying to do. So what is he trying to
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do? What is going to get done? And do
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Republicans have any hope? Well, Michael,
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your point is really important that
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that the boring is by design.
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It's a mask, it's a facade. It's designed
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to hide just how
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extreme the policies are that
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are being implemented by the way. Interestingly
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enough, I also saw screenshots of at different
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points Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi
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both nodding off, and
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I guess Met Romney was also filmed
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nodding off. And so I I saw Met
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on the floor today and I said, mett Man, you and
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I apparently need to get more sleep, and
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and he laughed and said, I wasn't sleeping. I
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was looking at my phone. It's like, oh, yeah,
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me, I was sleeping. Yeah,
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I was genuinely like I
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was nodding off. And you know, but
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look, if you look at what this administration
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has done, the hard
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partisan nature of it is remarkable. They
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start with a so called COVID relief bill,
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get zero Republican votes in the House,
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zero Republicans in the Senate. That's
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actually hard to do. I mean, last year we did
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five COVID relief bills that
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were overwhelmingly bipartisan. I
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mean, they made the decision they didn't want any Republicans.
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They wanted a hard partisan bill. Infrastructure,
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they're they're two point six trillion dollar infrastructure
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bill as written will get zero
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Republicans. And again,
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which is hard to do because there are a lot of Republicans that
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care about infrastructure. But
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Biden's bill, five percent of the bill is Rosen
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Bridges. I mean, it really is absurd.
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And you know, everything
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on Earth they're going to tax. Every tax
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is going up. I mean, that's there. We're looking at
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trillions and trillions and trillions in
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new taxes. The brazenness
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of it. You know, you think about the speech
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last night, not a word about
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the crisis of the border that his policies
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have created. By the way, in the
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midst of the speech, I don't I don't know how much
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of this made it on TV. But Lauren Boebert,
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who's, you know, a new freshman House
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member and someone I like and helped get elected
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and support and she's a fireball. But
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but midway through the speech, she pulled
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out of her bag a a reflective
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emergency blanket. Uh
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like, like the children are wrapped in
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in in the cages on the border,
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and she wrapped herself up in the reflective
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emergency blanket. I gotta tell you, Kevin
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McCarthy is sitting in front of her and turns
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and just glares with
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dagger eyes. I
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was doubled over laughing. But
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but it was an interesting sort of quiet
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protest of the
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hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants
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that that Biden is ignoring and
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the crisis that he's created, that that he's
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ignoring, you know, not a word
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about the massive debt, not a word
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about you know, not a word
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of graciousness to President
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Trump and Operation Warped Speed. I mean,
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he just crowed about the vaccines without
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acknowledging that he laughed at Trump
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when when he said that we would have a vaccine by
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the end of the year. And that's of course exactly
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what they did. So I thought the
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substance and so of it. If you actually hired
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an actor to give
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the identical speech but
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in an angry partisan tone, yeah,
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people would have been shocked. I
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mean, it really is. It's almost
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a theatrical thing of having these you
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know, soporific tones, which
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which as you know, being being
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a yalily. Soporific is an underused term,
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but but it literally means putting people
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to sleep, and last night
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that was a literal use of the word.
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Yeah. You know, this has
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been Biden's great advantage,
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certainly in the last several years, which
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is, if you just read the text of the speech last
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night, that would have, I think put a lot of Republicans
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on their guard. If Kamala Harris,
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for instance, gave that speech, I think it would
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have put a lot a lot of people in defensive
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But because it's it's Biden, it lulls
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everyone into this false sense of security.
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There was, however, one moment
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I noticed of quasi almost
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bipartisanship, and it was the moment
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when Joe Biden began
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to take ownership of a major
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Trump policy, or at least a presumptive
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Trump policy, which was getting
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out of Afghanistan. And was
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very curious was in that room the
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Democrats applauded, the Republicans weren't applauding.
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With a couple of exceptions, Yeah,
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when President Biden said We're going to
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pull out of Afghanistan. There were that
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I saw only two Republicans who applauded.
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I applauded, and Mike Lely applauded,
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and the rest of our side of
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the aisle sat there, stone faced, just
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looking at him. And I think that's
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unfortunate, because I think this is an
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area where President Trump was right and he was
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leaning in to end
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the endless wars that we've been
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in Afghanistan. It's been twenty years,
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and it's time to bring our sons
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and daughters home. That doesn't mean we stop killing
8:55
terrorists and defending our nation, but we don't
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need to be on the front lines
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of a battle front for generations.
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And you're now literally having having
9:05
soldiers serving on
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a front that their parents served on,
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and and that that that's a pretty strong
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sign that we've been there too long. Yeah,
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this issue is
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one that I think shows the way that
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the GOP, you know, is kind of transforming
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from the way that it once was and the
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way that Biden is transforming. Let's not forget
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the decision to restart the war in Afghanistan
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to really surged the troops there. That was an Obama
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Biden decision back when when President
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Obama came into office. But but other than that one
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brief moment, it did seem extraordinarily
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divisive. And then there was the visual
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fact that you had the masks
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in the room, you had Joe Biden, who
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was very much pushing
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this idea of public health crisis and we're
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not allowed to go back to normal, and
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everything about it just felt so eerie.
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When when are we going to be able to get
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back to normal? How are we going to be able
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to push this unified government to get us back
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to Look, I thought there was an enormous
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amount of political theater now and listen State
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of the Union. There's always political theater.
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But when it comes to COVID and masks,
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every person in that room has been vaccinated,
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and we're also spread out, so
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we were far away from each other. I actually think it's
10:21
idiotic that anyone was wearing a mask. And
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there was a little moment at the beginning of the speech.
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I don't know if you saw when Biden goes
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up there, he walks up at his mask, because of course he
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does, and then he turns
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and looks to Nancy Pelosi and ask
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permission before he removes his mask.
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It may have been the most beta
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moment for a US president in history,
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and it was just pitiful. And look,
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I gotta tell you, I was conflicted
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on what to do. So for I think three
10:50
weeks now, I have not been
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wearing a mask on the Senate floor. And
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you've made a big point about this. There have been reporters
10:58
who have said, please put a mask, and you've said,
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you're more than welcome to walk away from me. But I've been
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inoculated. Hey, you know, and listen, I'm
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not a zealot on mask issues. I wore
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a mask for a year on the Senate floor. This
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is a dangerous disease. I thought, take reasonable
11:12
precautions makes sense. But
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in the Senate it's every
11:17
person or virtually every person has
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been vaccinated, and
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it doesn't make it. I believe in vaccines, and
11:27
so it's interesting. I just so Rand
11:30
Paul has not worn a mask throughout. He was kind
11:32
of the loan in the
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heat of the pandemic. Now he got the disease. So
11:36
he said, look, I got the disease. I
11:38
have have antibodies, which is reasonable.
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But Rand was the only one of a hundred that wasn't
11:42
wearing a mask for months and months and months, and
11:45
then after everyone got vaccinated,
11:48
and you know, Michael, you'll remember I actually delayed
11:50
getting vaccinated, so they offered
11:52
us the vaccines I think early January,
11:56
and I didn't think it was right for
11:59
members of cong to cutting line. I mean, I'm
12:01
relatively young, relatively healthy.
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I get that. A whipper snapper like you doesn't
12:06
think I'm that young. But but you know, you
12:09
know, compared to my colleagues in the Senate, I'm
12:11
still in short shorts and wearing a beanie. It's
12:14
true. And you remember when the polio vaccine
12:16
came out, so you're you know, you're well acquainted with
12:18
all these vaccines, and
12:20
so you know, I said, all right, I'm gonna
12:22
wait and let seniors get the vaccine. I'm
12:24
gonna let first responders get the vaccine.
12:27
It's not right for me to cutting line. And
12:29
I did that until about March. And at
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March there had been tens of millions of vaccines.
12:34
The people who were at highest risk had
12:36
had the opportunity to get the vaccine. And then
12:38
I said, okay, I'll get it. So I've gotten it now.
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And so a couple of weeks ago, I just stopped
12:43
wearing the mask, So what's funny?
12:45
Two three days I stopped
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wearing the mask walk on the Senate floor, and nobody
12:49
notices, Like I was doing it for two
12:51
three days, and it was just a nothing
12:53
burger. And then finally
12:56
one reporter for CNN like
12:58
sticks a camera in my face and it's like, wait, wait,
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you're not wearing a mask. Where are you not wearing a mask? And I
13:02
said, because we're all vaccinated, And
13:05
actually this reporter says, well, I'm not vaccinated.
13:07
I'm like, well, that's your choice, Like
13:11
and the elevation, the
13:13
elevator closed, and I remember thinking like,
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Okay, if you're choosing not to get a vaccine,
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you can do that, But what right do
13:21
you have to insist that the rest of us must wear
13:23
masks because you've chosen not to
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get a vaccine. You don't have a right like it
13:28
is available to you. And
13:31
and so I have not been wearing it for two
13:33
three weeks. I did wear my mask
13:36
last night, and I sort of struggled
13:38
with the question. But Pelosi
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is running this, you know, military
13:45
installation. Do you know that
13:47
she is finding house members,
13:50
finding them if they don't wear a mask
13:52
on the floor, and she is
13:54
insisting that House members go through metal
13:56
detectors, and as
13:59
idiotic as it is, is because she's afraid
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some Republican is going to be packing heat.
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It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And thankfully
14:06
the Senate is not that idiotic.
14:08
And they actually they took down metal detectors or whatever,
14:10
because like when I walked in, we didn't go through metal detectors,
14:13
but I went ahead and wore
14:15
the mask on the house floor because that's sort of
14:17
what they're doing there. But
14:19
but but I felt pretty sheepish for doing
14:21
so because it was all theatrics.
14:24
There is something deferential
14:27
and conservative about saying, well, I'm in this
14:29
chamber now it's being run by this crazy lady,
14:31
so I guess I'll follow the rules. But
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that's exactly what I was doing. Yeah,
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and it is really nice to see
14:40
that you've taken this very sensible
14:42
approach, I think from the beginning. And I
14:44
don't think that people on either side can
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call you reckless about the masks or
14:49
particularly zealousy. They can, but
14:52
well they certainly will regardless.
14:54
The only question is now there
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are so many layers to this question, and
14:59
I think and a lot of conservatives are very
15:01
confused. What do we do here? It's
15:03
not just I recognize
15:05
the pun of many layers to the masks, but
15:08
you do You have some people who say we need to wear three
15:10
masks. There's some people who say just where
15:12
one mask is fine. Some people are saying you don't need
15:14
to wear a mask. Some people are saying everyone
15:16
needs to get vaccinated. Some people are saying you need a vaccine
15:19
passport. Some people are saying, ban it at the
15:21
government level, ban it at the private level. What
15:24
is the conservative, sensible
15:26
American way to approach this issue?
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So, I think a vaccine passport is a terrible
15:31
idea, and I have been vocal and outspoken
15:34
saying the government shouldn't require it. It It would
15:36
be horrific if the government did it.
15:38
And I don't think private businesses should. So I don't think
15:40
airlines should. I don't think I
15:43
don't think private businesses should. I'm
15:45
someone who believes in vaccines. I think vaccines
15:48
are a good thing. I've gotten
15:50
the COVID vaccine, Heide's gotten the vaccine,
15:52
My parents have both gotten at Heide's parents have
15:54
gotten it, and I'm
15:56
encouraging people to get it. I'd like to see as many people
15:59
as possible get it. But I also
16:01
believe in individual liberty, and if you don't want to get
16:03
it, that's your choice. And there
16:05
are some people who've got health issues for
16:07
whom it may not make sense to get
16:09
it, and so I think each person should evaluate whether
16:12
it makes sense in your circumstances.
16:16
But you know, I think the CDC
16:19
is actually doing real damage with
16:21
the arbitrariness of their
16:24
their rules. So for example, even
16:26
after people get vaccinated, they're still idiotically
16:29
saying, oh, well, we're wear masks here and there
16:31
and everywhere, and it's like, well,
16:33
wait a second. If we want
16:35
people to get vaccinated, one of the best ways
16:37
to do so is make clear once you get
16:39
vaccinating and take the damn mask off. I mean, I
16:41
mean that. I think CDC's
16:44
dragging their feet on that is
16:48
very possibly disincentivizing
16:50
millions of people from getting vaccines.
16:52
And you know, this week they put out the
16:55
guidance of Okay, now you don't need
16:57
to wear a mask when you're outside if you've been vaccinated.
16:59
It's like, well, okay, only
17:01
morons we're doing that, Like like that, thank
17:04
you, and like do I need a mask when I'm
17:06
taking a shower, like like you haven't clarified that
17:08
point. Although
17:11
did you see Michael, a
17:14
track coach in Massachusetts,
17:17
was fired because he wouldn't make
17:20
his kids wear masks while
17:22
running cross country track outside.
17:24
He didn't want his students to collapse
17:27
in the woods and fall fall down on a rock.
17:30
It. You know, there's so much of
17:32
this mass stuff that is just petty
17:34
totalitarianism. It is we can
17:36
control you, and we want to control you,
17:38
and that's what we're doing. Well, the rules
17:41
keep changing, but it's not really about the rules themselves.
17:43
I find it's about, as you say here,
17:45
the imposition of the rule. Who gets
17:48
to impose their will on others? I
17:50
want to go back to something you said though, that I
17:52
think is extraordinarily important. On
17:55
the question of the vaccine passport. A
17:58
number of governors have been divided on this
18:00
because a lot of it's taking place at the state level. Some
18:03
are saying we will not have any mandates
18:06
from the government on the vaccine passport.
18:08
Others are saying, we will
18:10
not permit private businesses
18:12
to force you to show your medical
18:15
history when you come into the bar, or
18:17
when you try to go on an airline or something
18:19
to that effect well, and you're seeing employers
18:21
that are firing employees for
18:23
not getting the vaccines, which I think is terrible.
18:26
I think that that is deeply,
18:29
deeply troubling and shouldn't
18:31
be allowed. This ties in with something
18:33
that you published yesterday in the Wall Street Journal,
18:36
and you did not tell me
18:38
that this was coming out. It's not like I got advanced notice.
18:40
I just saw the alert in the journal, and
18:42
I basically stood up and cheered
18:45
when I saw this op ed because it's something
18:47
that conservatives just don't get except
18:50
for very few who are pretty rock ribbed.
18:52
You said that the era
18:55
of conservatives shilling for
18:57
private companies corporations
19:00
that hate our values and are opposing
19:02
our country and are opposing even voter integrity
19:04
measures. Ye, that time is over.
19:07
And you said that you will not accept corporate
19:09
pack money in your campaigns. So
19:12
that's right. I mean, look, we've we've all been
19:14
watching the rise of the woke
19:16
corporations and these
19:19
big businesses, these Fortune five hundred
19:21
companies where the CEOs
19:24
have essentially decided they're going to be
19:26
the political enforcers for
19:28
the radical left. They're going to be the muscle
19:31
for the Democratic Party and we've
19:33
seen, whether it's Coca Cola or Delta Airlines
19:36
demogoguing on the Georgia
19:39
voter integrity law, or companies
19:41
demagoguing on the Texas voter integrity
19:43
law. And obviously Major
19:46
League Baseball yanking the All Star Game out
19:48
of Atlanta and moving to lilywhite
19:50
Denver instead, which which which just
19:54
totally beclowns at Atlanta's fifty
19:56
one percent black, Denver is nine percent
19:59
black. So they
20:01
are so racially woke that
20:03
they're going to take one hundred million dollars out of the pockets
20:06
of a bunch of African American small business
20:08
owners and move it to a
20:10
bunch of wealthy white
20:12
people in Denver, like it's weird. Also
20:15
worth pointing out that Georgia they
20:17
left because of the voter integrity law.
20:20
Colorado has relatively strict voter
20:22
laws. It's it's not a clear cut issue over which
20:25
has the more lenient voter laws. So the
20:27
dynamic that's playing out in the
20:30
Fortune five hundred big business is
20:32
not conservative. They are not our
20:34
friends. Many of
20:36
them are just risk averse and scared, and
20:39
the liberal mob comes after them and
20:42
they mobilize their employees. They mobilize
20:44
their shareholders, they mobilize the press, and
20:47
these CEOs are more than
20:49
willing to just cave in and
20:51
give the mob whatever they want. And it's
20:54
really dangerous. And so
20:56
what I announced this week is is that I
20:58
am no longer going to accept any
21:00
corporate pack checks, that corporate
21:03
packs, I won't take their money.
21:05
And to give a sense of the magnitude of
21:07
that, so I've been in the Senate nine years.
21:09
Over those nine years, I've gotten about
21:11
two point six million dollars in campaign
21:14
contributions from corporate packs. Now
21:16
I've raised well over one hundred million dollars
21:19
during that time, and so that's not it's
21:21
not the lion's share of the money
21:23
that I've raised, but it is you know, two
21:25
point seven million dollars ain't nothing. And
21:28
I just decided enough is enough. If you guys
21:30
are going to be actively
21:34
fighting the American people, tearing
21:37
down America, tearing down freedom,
21:39
I don't want you're stinking money. And I've
21:42
called on other other Republicans to do
21:44
the same, and I think it's
21:46
a powerful thing. And listen,
21:48
you and I have talked about before. Corporate
21:51
welfare has always been garbage and Republicans
21:54
have been too willing to engage
21:56
in that where big companies come
21:58
and say, give us a subsidy of US corporate welfare,
22:01
give us a band date. And I've been
22:03
fighting against that from day one. A
22:06
lot of other Republicans get sucked
22:08
in. So the Export Import Bank, which
22:10
which serves as essentially
22:13
a giant subsidy for Boeing, a
22:15
massive corporate welfare scam. I've
22:18
fought against the XM Bank for the entire
22:20
time I've been in the Senate, but a whole lot of
22:22
Republicans are eager to carry Boeing's
22:24
water on that. Major League
22:26
Baseball, major League Baseball has a unique
22:30
exemption from the antitrust laws
22:32
that no other sports
22:35
league has, and so in
22:37
response to moving the All Star
22:39
Game, I joined with Mike Lee. We
22:41
introduced legislation to revoke Major
22:43
League Baseball's exemption from the antitrust laws.
22:46
And I think these two should be tied
22:48
together, which is no corporate
22:50
welfare and no more money from
22:53
big companies. And I think that if
22:55
other Republicans follow suit, that will be
22:57
a real improvement. I
23:00
hear this all the time from conservatives
23:02
writing in I'm not talking about elected people.
23:04
I'm not talking about Beltway staffers
23:06
or anything, but just conservatives around the
23:08
country. They say these Republicans
23:11
are such shills. Even
23:13
the ones who will call out the woke corporations,
23:16
they're totally in their pockets. They'll
23:18
still accept a lot of money. I think
23:20
it is such a great move. It said
23:22
in such a strong message, and it
23:25
shows what we all know to be true that there
23:27
is nothing conservative about letting
23:29
these giant, woke corporations totally
23:32
undermine the American way of life, and
23:34
that you're not going to accept their money
23:36
to do it. Well, big business
23:38
gets in bed with big government. Big business
23:41
likes big government. Big business uses
23:43
government regulations to crush
23:46
their enemies, to crush their competition.
23:49
I think we should be the party of the little guy. I
23:51
think we should be the party of the entrepreneurs,
23:53
of the disruptors. The
23:55
giant companies don't
23:57
need our help, and frankly,
24:00
the policies they pushed for are almost
24:02
uniformly terrible. You
24:05
know, I was encouraged, so I
24:07
put this op ed out Thursday
24:09
morning, and within
24:12
a few hours one of my colleagues,
24:14
Josh Holley, had already put out
24:16
on Twitter that he was gonna follow follow
24:18
my lead and likewise turned down corporate
24:21
packs. I think that's going to increase
24:23
the pressure on a lot of other Republicans to go
24:25
down the same road. And if that
24:28
happens, that's a good thing. I love
24:30
that. You know. There was a line in Joe
24:32
Biden's speech which was it
24:35
was totally regurgitated left
24:37
wing talking points where he said, you know, the
24:40
ninety nine percent and the one percent, and
24:42
we've got to make the rich pay their fair share,
24:44
even though they already pay virtually all of the taxes.
24:46
And it was this classic class warfare
24:49
sort of stuff. But then I remembered
24:52
the rich and especially corporations
24:55
voted for Biden, donated
24:57
to Biden. That is this
24:59
I idea that the Democrats are the party
25:01
of the working man, and the Republicans
25:04
are these plutocrats with their fancy cigars.
25:06
I mean, I might have the fancy cigars, but the idea
25:08
that we're all rich uncle pennybags, it's just not
25:11
what's going on in the parties. And
25:13
I can say this, I've spoken multiple cigars
25:15
with you. I've never once seen you use one hundred
25:17
dollar bill to light it. And I think you're too chio
25:19
not to do that, which is good. I would
25:21
advise against that fiscal
25:24
conservative. It'll look you look at the
25:26
Fortune one hundred. There
25:28
are only a handful
25:31
of CEOs and the Fortune one hundred who
25:33
could be remotely characterized as right
25:35
of center. They're almost all Democrats.
25:38
And that is the ethos
25:41
a big business. Because big
25:43
business does great under the Democrats. They're
25:45
quite happy with this massive
25:48
expansion of spending
25:50
and regulations and even taxes.
25:54
The giant companies think if you tax
25:56
everyone, you'll drive the little guys out of business,
25:58
and the big guys will be just fine. And that's
26:04
that's bad, right of
26:06
course. Barry Goldwater put it
26:08
very well in Conscience of a Conservative. He said, conservatives
26:11
need to make war on all monopolies.
26:14
We need to make war on all unlimited
26:16
power, all of this unchecked power. And
26:19
anyway, I don't mean to lay it on too thick here,
26:21
but I was just so pleased to see
26:23
that up ed. I hope that all the other Republicans
26:26
feel the pressure. It's absolutely the
26:28
right direction for the party. And
26:31
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