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Welcome. It is Verdict to a center.

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Ted Cruz ben Ferguson with

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you, and you better get ready because

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there is a new book coming out. We're teasing

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it now. It is a book that the Senator

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has got coming out. Give us the name Real Quick Center

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because this is coming out in like a week.

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So six days from now, on

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November seventh, my newest book comes out.

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It is entitled Unwoke,

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How to Defeat Cultural Marxism

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in America. And I want to encourage

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every Verdict listener go on to

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Amazon, go on to Barnes and Noble,

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go on to Books a Million, and

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buy a copy right now. You're going to enjoy

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this book. This book is an

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examination into

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how the radical left

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has seized major institutions

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of our nation. So it begins

0:51

with the first chapter focuses on universities

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and universities. I call

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the Wuhan lab the

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woke virus. That is

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where the woke virus was created.

1:05

It's where it mutated, and it's where

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it spread. And I examine

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how the radical left, how the

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cultural Marxist took over universities,

1:15

and from there it spread to

1:17

k through twelve education,

1:20

it spread to journalism. It

1:23

spread to government, it spread

1:25

to big business, it spread to big tech,

1:28

It spread to entertainment, sports,

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music, movies, TV. And

1:34

each of those has a different chapter

1:36

throughout the book. And then the book

1:39

ends with a chapter on China, which

1:41

is a nexus that connects it all. And

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the book is explaining number one,

1:47

how these extreme

1:50

left Marxists took over

1:53

each of these institutions. But number two,

1:55

and this is really important, it lays

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out strategies for how to defeat them,

1:59

way is working, how we're fighting back,

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how we take our country back. That's

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what this book is all about. So I

2:06

want to encourage every listener a verdict

2:09

if you find this podcast valuable, if

2:11

you enjoy the insights that are on

2:13

this This book, I think

2:16

is it's interesting. It is

2:18

telling war stories. You

2:20

know, this is not an academic, abstract

2:23

book. This is bringing you inside

2:26

the battles for each of these institutions,

2:28

and it's laying out a path to

2:31

victory.

2:32

One of the things I do have to say about this book, Center

2:34

is it's a thick one, like you

2:36

really poured your heart and so into this one.

2:40

This is book number four. So I've written four

2:42

books. I've enjoyed all of them, And

2:44

actually I view the books and

2:46

the podcast very similarly. So

2:49

you and I are talking. It is right now.

2:51

It is ten twenty two PM

2:54

on Tuesday tonight,

2:56

I was on Brett Bear Show, and then Brett

2:58

and I had did it together, and

3:01

I was talking with Breath this evening about how

3:03

I view the podcasts and the books as

3:05

very similar, which is

3:07

their battles

3:10

for the hearts and minds of America that

3:12

listen as conservatives, as people that believe

3:14

in the constitution, that believe in

3:17

common sense, that believe in individual liberty.

3:21

We're getting killed, yeah,

3:23

we are, Like who

3:26

right of center is effectively engaging

3:28

and fighting and battling against

3:31

the narrative of the radical

3:33

left. And I think it is an extremely small number.

3:36

And so I write these books. Look, it takes

3:39

thousands of hours to write these books. It

3:41

takes a ton of hours. At

3:43

ten twenty two I actually have

3:45

the World Series game DVR

3:48

tonight. I have it on pause. By the way, don't

3:51

tell me the score. It is right now five to

3:53

nothing Rangers. That's not the

3:55

score right now, so do not tell me. Although

3:58

I have to confess, my dad called me a

4:00

twenty minutes ago giddy

4:02

and he's like, what an incredible light? Like, Dad,

4:04

quiet, do not tell me about the game. So

4:08

I do kind of have a foreshadowing because my dad

4:11

lives in Dallas and he was really excited about

4:13

the Rangers. So I suspect five

4:15

to zero is not where this ends up. But

4:19

that's how much I've watched. I paused

4:21

it and walked in here to record this

4:24

podcast. Listen, I'd rather be watching the baseball

4:26

game, except we got to save

4:28

our country. And this podcast is designed

4:31

to empower you, the listener,

4:34

to know what's happening and to engage

4:36

in this book. This book

4:39

is intended to be ammunition for you

4:41

to give you the information when

4:43

you're sitting down and talking about, Okay, what's

4:45

going on, and let's

4:48

take it directly

4:50

relevant to what's happening now. We're

4:54

in the midst of the biggest war in the Middle East

4:56

in fifty years. Israel

4:59

is under assault. We are seeing across

5:01

our country this wave

5:03

of anti Semitism, a vicious

5:05

anti Israel hate in our

5:08

colleges and universities. I was sitting

5:10

down last week with a very

5:12

successful big tech entrepreneur

5:16

who is left of center, who is historically

5:19

supported Democrats, and

5:21

he was telling me, he said, look, I find

5:23

it very strange. Why is it that the

5:26

left is so viciously

5:28

anti Israel, so viciously anti

5:31

Semitic. And what I explained to him, I said, listen,

5:35

this is a Marxist battle.

5:37

You want to know what cultural Marxism is. This

5:39

book explains it. But Karl

5:42

Marx laid out a vision

5:44

of the world that the world

5:47

is engaged in an inevitable economic

5:49

conflict. It's a battle, and it's a battle

5:52

between oppressors and victims. And

5:54

Marx laid out the spectrum on

5:57

socioeconomic terms that the

5:59

oppressors are the owners of capital and

6:02

the victims of the proletariat, the working

6:04

men and women. And his solution was

6:06

a violent revolution of

6:08

the victims against the oppressors, to forcibly

6:11

take what they have and to redistribute it

6:13

to the victims. Now, the

6:16

book explains that vision kind

6:18

of plain vanilla Marxism has

6:21

spread, Education has spread, a big business

6:23

has spread to journalism, has spread to entertainment,

6:26

and they've expanded the

6:29

framework of victims. So now it's not

6:31

just socioeconomic, it is also

6:34

on race. It is

6:37

some races are oppressors some races

6:40

are victims. It is also on gender,

6:43

It is also on transgender

6:46

and the radical transgender ideology.

6:48

And in every instance, the

6:51

Marxist argument is

6:54

that the people who are coded as victims

6:57

should use force, should

6:59

use violence, should use the power

7:01

of government to forcibly

7:04

destroy the oppressors and

7:06

redistribute what they view as

7:08

their illegitimate, ill gotten gains

7:11

to the victims. And I explained to

7:13

this very successful businessman, the

7:16

problem for Jewish

7:19

people in America across the world is

7:22

for the radical left, Jews

7:25

are coded for the Marxists

7:28

as oppressors. So when they look at Israel,

7:31

Jews are the bad guys and

7:34

the Palestinians are

7:36

the oppressed minority. And so in

7:38

that narrative, what

7:40

the cultural Marxist support is,

7:43

the violent overthrow of

7:45

the Jewish government in Israel is

7:48

the murder of Jewish

7:50

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7:52

seeing the manifestation of cultural

7:54

Marxism playing out in Israel

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You know it brings us back, and I

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think it's a perfect segue talking about your

9:31

book and what's happened in this country to

9:34

some of the most anti Semitic protests

9:37

that we've seen in the world are

9:39

happening in this country. They're

9:42

happening in New York City. They're

9:44

happening also around the

9:46

world. To be fair, in places like the Opera

9:48

House in Australia where they were chanting gas

9:50

the Jews and blank the Jews. But

9:52

you look at what's happening on college campuses.

9:55

And there was a question asked the White House and

9:57

it was not a I got your question. It was a very

9:59

simple and n and Pierre was asked by

10:01

Peter Deucy at Fox this question, Listen.

10:04

Does President Biden think the anti Israel

10:06

protesters in this country are extremists?

10:10

What I can say is what we've been very

10:12

clear about this when it comes to anti

10:14

Semitism, there is no place we

10:17

have to make sure that we speak against

10:19

it very loud and be

10:22

very clear about that. Remember

10:24

what the President decided when the President decided

10:26

to run for president is what he saw

10:29

in Charlottesville in twenty seventeen, when

10:31

he saw neo Nazis marching

10:33

down the streets of Charlottesville with

10:36

vile, anti Semitic just

10:38

hatred. And he was

10:40

very clear then and he's very clear now.

10:43

He's taken actions against this over

10:45

the past two years, and he's

10:47

continued to be clear. There is no place,

10:50

no place for this type of vile

10:52

And despite this kind of rhetoric

10:55

we hear.

10:56

I mean, couldn't you just say yes instead

10:58

of having to go back and compared to Charlottesville,

11:01

it's amazing how much this administration will

11:03

fall over themselves to not just give you a basic

11:06

answer.

11:07

Well, listen, this White House, on

11:10

every question asked, their

11:12

default is attack Trump. Their

11:14

view is Trump is the devil. And

11:17

they're not willing to call

11:19

out the left. They're not willing

11:21

to call out the squad. They're not willing

11:23

to call out Rashida talib or

11:25

ilhan Ovar, They're not willing to call

11:27

out AOC. They're not willing to call out the

11:30

vicious anti semitism coming

11:32

from the Democrat Party in the House. They're

11:35

also not willing to call out the

11:38

nasty and vicious anti Semitism

11:40

from college radicals on colleges

11:43

across the country, and particularly elite universities.

11:46

Look the Ivy League, Harvard,

11:49

Princeton, Cornell, Columbia.

11:51

It has been pen It has been

11:54

disgraceful at these

11:56

so called elite universities,

11:59

the fish, nasty

12:01

anti Semitism. I

12:04

led a letter with Elise Stefanik.

12:07

We're both graduates of Harvard. I went to Harvard

12:09

Law School, she went to Harvard College. We

12:11

led a letter that was joined by other members

12:13

of Congress in both the House and Senator Harvard

12:15

graduates calling on Harvard, why

12:17

will you not denounce these

12:20

rabid anti Semites. Thirty

12:23

five student groups at Harvard put

12:26

out a statement that blamed

12:29

the horrific violence in Israel

12:32

on Israel, and they said, the

12:34

attacks of Hamas, every act of violence

12:37

in Israel is one hundred percent the fault

12:39

of Israel. Now, holy crap, are

12:41

you telling me it is the fault of

12:43

Israel that Hamas terrorists targeted

12:46

civilians, went house to house as

12:48

Nazi death squads targeting

12:50

civilians, murdering civilians, murdering

12:53

the elderly, raping women

12:56

and little girls in the streets and murdering

12:59

infants, burning them alive,

13:01

beheading them. That is not the fault

13:04

of Israel. And the only person who

13:06

says that Hamas terrorists beheading

13:08

infants is the fault of Israel is

13:11

a vicious anti Semite

13:13

who is deluded. And the

13:15

Harvard administration, like the

13:18

administration of many other universities,

13:20

are so politically woke

13:23

that they're terrified to call out the radical

13:26

left and the chickens are

13:28

coming home to roost.

13:29

Yeah, you mentioned just how barbarica

13:32

these people are in Israel, and

13:34

one example of that is the news

13:36

stories that have come out, and these

13:39

new stories are beyond

13:42

barbarica. I'm not sure the word to use

13:44

to describe it, because it's

13:48

just so god awful to

13:50

know what they have now found that the Hamas

13:53

terrorists not only that they behead babies, but

13:55

apparently they put infants in

13:57

an oven and turned it on.

14:01

And this is what has been found.

14:02

And the part that was though shocking to me, Cinator,

14:05

was the fact that when this story

14:08

came out, the media

14:10

and fact checkers were going

14:13

to immediately the side

14:15

of trying to debunk it and

14:17

to somehow claim that it's not true

14:20

to defend hamas terrorists who

14:22

they know for a fact had left

14:24

knives in babies that died

14:28

and had beheaded infants.

14:31

And this is the press conference, and

14:34

I tell you everyone needs to hear

14:36

this.

14:37

It's not enjoyable.

14:39

It's one of the worst moments.

14:41

But you need to know what the enemy is, what they

14:43

believe in, and what they've done. And we shouldn't

14:45

cover for them. We should expose

14:47

it to the world so they understand that

14:49

it is important to choose sides.

14:51

Here.

14:52

You side on the life, on

14:54

the side of life. You side on

14:56

the side of those that are trying to protect innocent

14:59

lives, not these demonic

15:02

terrorists.

15:02

Listen, we saw the most

15:04

horrific things I saw in my own eyes.

15:07

A woman who was pregnant,

15:09

four months pregnant. She

15:11

was in a little village, a little key boots. They

15:14

came into her house in front of her kids.

15:16

They opened up her stomach. She was pregnant.

15:19

They opened up her stomach, took

15:21

out the baby, and stabbed a little tiny baby

15:24

in front of her, and then shot her in front of her

15:26

family. And then they killed the rest

15:28

of the kids. These

15:31

are not regular enemies. These are not

15:33

regular situations. I saw

15:36

little kids who were beheaded. We

15:39

didn't a which head belongs to which kid.

15:42

I was crying for five days straight. I

15:44

couldn't get out of I couldn't stop crying. See

15:47

little children.

15:49

Some of them had grandparents.

15:51

Who are Holocaust survivors, and they were murdered

15:54

in a Holocaust and Israel in twenty

15:56

twenty three. Little

15:59

babies, little children, you couldn't even

16:01

recognize if they were kids. They we

16:03

couldn't even recognize. We saw a little baby in an oven.

16:06

They put them in. These bastards put

16:08

these babies in the oven and put on the oven.

16:11

We found the kid a few hours later. We

16:15

found women who were raped,

16:19

young girls who were raped and

16:21

then murdered. Anyone

16:24

who was around

16:26

these people were murdered or kidnapped.

16:30

We found the little little

16:33

twins, ten year ten months old twins

16:36

fourteen hours after their

16:38

parents were murdered. The mother

16:40

of the twins, who was hiding together

16:43

with the twins in the bomb shelter for two

16:45

hours. Six o'clock, they

16:47

ran into the when they heard the missiles

16:49

and they heard the shooting, they ran into the bomb shelter

16:51

and claraza where sixty

16:53

percent of the people were murdered. Beautiful

16:57

little village, peaceful village,

17:00

and they were hiding in the shelter. And then

17:02

the kids were so hungry,

17:04

the starving. The kids were crying, ten

17:06

months old. So the mother

17:09

went out to get some food for the children, and

17:11

the terrorists were waiting outside, and the quart

17:13

her. I

17:15

don't want even to describe to you.

17:16

What I mean.

17:18

You hear that, Senator, And

17:21

the mainstream media is not covering that. They're

17:23

not playing that press conference. They

17:25

don't want you to know just how barbaric Kamas

17:28

is and the people that support them in Palestinians,

17:31

that support them in Iran, who supports

17:33

them?

17:35

So that clip was playing

17:38

the words of Eli Beer, who

17:40

is the president and founder of

17:42

United Hatzilah of Israel,

17:46

and he's describing and I want to focus

17:48

on his words, a little

17:50

baby in the oven. These

17:53

bastards put these babies in

17:56

the oven and put on the

17:58

oven. This

18:00

is evil, that this is Nazi

18:02

Germany. Understand

18:05

that hamas terrists, they

18:07

are no different than

18:09

the psychopaths at Auschwitz. They

18:12

are targeting civilians, They are murdering

18:15

civilians, They are murdering babies,

18:18

I'm sorry, but if you put a

18:20

baby in an oven, you

18:23

are an evil, friggin' bastard. That

18:26

is the definition of evil. And by

18:29

the way, every woke nineteen

18:31

year old on a college campus chanting

18:34

from the river to the sea, by the way, from

18:36

the river to the sea means we should obliterate

18:39

the state of Israel because

18:41

the river to the sea is eliminate all

18:44

of what is Israel. But every

18:46

one of them needs to be asked, why

18:49

do you support putting babies

18:51

in ovens? Because that's the people you're

18:54

chanting in support of are

18:58

horrific monstrosities. You're

19:00

right, CNN won't report

19:02

that, MSNBC won't report that. The

19:04

corporate media does not want people to

19:06

know what's actually happening.

19:09

Senator, you look it back to these students

19:12

on college campuses. I'm

19:14

a big proponent of free speech. There's

19:16

been a lot of debate on

19:18

social media and a lot of debate on college

19:20

campuses about when

19:23

does free speech end and

19:25

when should there be consequences

19:28

from a university for advocating

19:32

for the terrorists who are doing the things

19:35

that we just played. I'll

19:37

be honest with you, I don't know that

19:40

line I'm not sure what line I feel comfortable

19:42

with because I know the slippery slope.

19:44

I know what happens.

19:45

If you start saying that someone can't

19:47

say this or can't do this, then

19:50

the other side is going to abuse it and they're going to

19:52

change that line, and then all of a sudden, if you're a conservative

19:55

or you're advocating for the life

19:57

of unborn children, they'll say, Okay, you're

19:59

out of this.

19:59

UNI two.

20:01

This is a hard one for me, and I'm

20:03

sincerely asking your perspective

20:07

slash advice on what should

20:09

universities be doing now? Do

20:12

they need to go further than denouncing

20:15

these students? Should there be disciplinary

20:17

action for them?

20:19

So?

20:20

I do not believe there should be disciplinary

20:22

action for people exercising

20:24

free speech. So free speech

20:27

means that everyone has a right to speak, and

20:29

they have a right to say vile and deplorable

20:32

things. So I don't think students

20:34

should be expelled from school for

20:37

saying viable and deplorable things. But

20:40

the check John Stuart Mill said

20:42

the best cure for bad speech.

20:45

Is more speech.

20:47

The answer to this should be that when

20:49

you have radical, bigoted,

20:51

racist leftist

20:55

jerks embracing

20:58

hamas terrorists. Everyone

21:00

else should denounce them and say this

21:03

is disgusting, this is evil.

21:05

You should be ashamed. The university

21:07

should speak Harvard University.

21:10

Look, listen, Harvard isn't a

21:12

unique place in the world.

21:13

It just is.

21:13

It's Harvard. There's only one Harvard. I

21:16

also signed. There was a letter

21:18

from alumni of Harvard, and

21:21

it was initially started by the Jewish

21:24

Alumni Association of Harvard, but it

21:26

was open to both Jews and non

21:28

Jews, and so I signed it. And it was

21:30

calling on Harvard speak with clarity,

21:33

for the administration to speak with clarity

21:35

and say murdering of

21:37

civilians is wrong, Targeting

21:41

elderly people, children, women,

21:43

raping women, raping children is wrong,

21:46

Murdering infants is wrong,

21:49

Putting babies and ovens is wrong. That's

21:51

not complicated. Being clear

21:53

and utterly denouncing that these Hamas

21:55

terrorists are monsters. That's

21:58

the answer, is clear and unequipped speech.

22:00

I also think the answer is

22:03

that you're not immune from consequences.

22:06

And so listen. If

22:09

you're a student in college

22:12

and you decide you want to be a Nazi, you

22:15

decide you want to be a clansman, you

22:17

have a right to do that you have a right to stand up

22:19

and say, gosh, I think Nazis were great.

22:21

You have a right to say I agree with the Klan,

22:24

But everyone else has an obligation to say,

22:26

well, then you're an idiot, you're a bigot, and

22:28

you're an imbecile, and you're wrong. And here's why. That's

22:32

the check for free speech. You

22:34

don't expel the person, but I will say there

22:36

are consequences. So for example, and

22:38

we've seen this some

22:40

of the law students who

22:42

spoke it out viciously in

22:46

favor of the Hamas terrorists murdering

22:48

Jews because they were Jewish. We've

22:51

seen some of the law students losing

22:53

their offers at major law firms. And that's

22:55

actually a remarkable development because

22:57

major law firms generally lean

23:00

very far left, they're very woke. But

23:04

I think it has been a very significant

23:06

development that Look,

23:09

Ben, if you woke up tomorrow and decided

23:11

to get a swastika tattooed on your forehead,

23:14

that's you're right. You can get that tattooed on your forehead,

23:17

but you shouldn't expect to get hired

23:19

in any reputable place if

23:21

you walk in there with a swastika on your forehead.

23:23

Yeah, you have the right to free speech, but you

23:26

also have the consequences of what you

23:28

say if it is vicious and

23:30

vile and bigoted.

23:31

But I also want to ask you about something

23:33

else, and that is about

23:35

we are seeing what these terrorists did in

23:37

Israel. We're finding out more about their training,

23:40

We're finding out more about their funding, We're finding

23:42

out more about Iran's involvement and other

23:44

terrorist organizations that we're supporting

23:47

and are supporting them right now,

23:50

which brings us back to our southern

23:52

border. The last show, we did an

23:54

extensive conversation and

23:57

dive into what you witness at the southern border

23:59

and just how out of control things have gotten

24:01

at.

24:01

This way, and go back and listen to that. If you haven't

24:04

listened to that, listen to Monday's

24:06

podcast, because we were down on the southern

24:08

border and I got to say what we saw

24:11

in terms of children being brutalized

24:14

and sexually abused was horrific,

24:17

and I described firsthand what

24:19

we saw down there on Thursday and Friday

24:21

of last week. If you didn't listen to that episode,

24:24

go back and listen to it because it will change

24:26

your view of just how

24:28

horrific and evil what's happening in our southern border

24:31

is.

24:31

Yeah, And there was a question that was asked

24:34

of Kirby at

24:36

the White House about our open

24:38

border, about how unsecure it is

24:41

and now not about the illegal immigrants sincerely

24:43

coming across, but the terrorists that are coming across,

24:46

and he was forced to answer the question. I think

24:49

honestly that yes, he is

24:51

concerned.

24:51

LISTENI director said today the

24:54

ongoing more in the Middle East has raised the threat

24:56

of an attack against Americans in the United

24:58

States to a whole level.

25:01

Let's just stop there for a second. When you

25:03

heard that center, how shocked

25:05

were you by that? So

25:08

I wasn't you

25:10

know, but them admitting that it's hit a whole other

25:12

level. I was shocked by that type of candid

25:15

answer from anybody in this administration.

25:18

Well, my thought was immediately,

25:20

holy crap, what does

25:22

the FBI know that we don't know, because

25:26

just weeks or months

25:29

ago, the FBI was

25:31

saying the greatest threat to public safety

25:34

is white supremacists in America. And

25:36

give me a friggin break. Listen, Nazis

25:38

and klansmen are idiots and bigots, They're

25:40

they're imbeciles. I

25:43

oppose them wholly and unequivocally.

25:45

But there's not a rise of Nazis

25:48

in America, like like, okay, you got

25:50

like six Yahoos

25:52

in some bar in somewhere in America

25:55

that are going whoohoo. But

25:58

like in the real

26:00

world, that is not a rising threat. And

26:02

yet the politicized

26:04

Biden Department of Justice and FBI said

26:06

that's the threat. And I was always

26:09

like, okay, what about radical

26:11

Jihadis who pledged that they

26:13

want to murder all of us, who

26:15

have committed horrific acts of terrorism

26:18

all across the globe, who carried out nine

26:20

to eleven. Do you not think they're

26:22

a greater threat? And until

26:25

October seventh, until the attack on Israel,

26:28

the Biden DOJ and the Biden FBI said

26:30

no, no, no Jahadis are just oki

26:33

doki, no problem at all. We're

26:36

just concerned that the Ku kus Klan is

26:38

coming back. And I'm like, okay, that's absurd.

26:41

Now they've changed

26:43

their talking points so.

26:46

Well.

26:47

This week the FBI

26:49

went before the House and said, wow, there

26:52

is a real risk of

26:54

Hamas and hezbal A terrorists coming across

26:56

the border. Now listen, this podcast has

26:59

covered this. I have said repeatedly

27:01

that I think there is a greater risk of

27:04

a major terrorist attack

27:06

on the United States than

27:08

there has been at any time

27:11

since September eleventh, And

27:14

we did a whole podcast on

27:17

the written memo from Customs

27:19

and Border Patrol instructing

27:21

border patrol agents be on lookout

27:24

for Hamas, for Hesbola,

27:26

for Palestinian Islamic Jahad. They're

27:29

going to try to hide who they are, and

27:31

they're coming here to commit acts of terror.

27:33

And so when I see the FBI

27:36

saying this, my reaction is like, holy

27:38

crap, they know stuff. For them

27:40

to change their political

27:42

talking points, frankly

27:45

takes my level of concern from

27:47

an eight to an eleven.

27:50

Well, and that's what Kirby was also

27:52

when he answered this. It was a very different answer. You remember,

27:54

that's the same my orchis had said, the border

27:57

is secure. The border is secure. And now

27:59

they're saying, and I not only know is it not admitting

28:01

it's not. Now they're saying they're worried about terrorst

28:03

threat to keep listening.

28:05

In the United States to a whole another

28:07

level, has the White House considered

28:09

the possibility that a terrorist could be in the

28:11

country right now after crossing

28:13

the southern border.

28:15

Peter, we are always concerned about

28:18

the potential presence on US soil

28:21

of terrorsts coming

28:24

from overseas. That's something we're always worried about.

28:26

But there was this bulletin last

28:28

week the CBP in San Diego said

28:31

militants associated with the Israel Hamas

28:33

war may be potentially

28:35

encountered at the south.

28:36

We'll talk about the San Diego Yeah,

28:39

is.

28:39

There any heartburn around six hundred thousand

28:42

known godaways just

28:44

in the last fistful year. Is

28:46

there any heartburn about leaving

28:49

the border in such a condition that

28:52

one of those six hundred thousand could be a

28:54

terrorist?

28:55

So let me just break this down for you just a little

28:57

bit here. First of all, I can't speak to

28:59

this until eligence report.

29:00

That was leaked to the media. I wouldn't

29:02

do that. I can tell

29:04

you that we.

29:05

Are constantly monitoring

29:07

as best we can all ports of entry

29:10

to the country for

29:12

the potential arrival of anybody who might wish

29:15

us harm. And one of the things that the

29:17

President asked for in this supplemental was

29:19

additional funding for border security

29:22

for like fifteen hundred more border patrol

29:24

agents, and better technology at the border.

29:26

I mean, so again, we would urge Congress

29:28

to take a look at that supplemental request and pass it.

29:31

But if the general gist of your question is

29:33

are we taking the potential threat seriously?

29:35

Of course we are.

29:36

The general was is it possible that somebody

29:38

who wants to commit a terrorist attack during

29:40

a time of elevated threat across

29:43

the southern border into the United States

29:45

already?

29:46

I couldn't possibly answer that question, Peter. All

29:48

I can do is tell you that we

29:51

have remained vigilant

29:53

to that potential threat.

29:55

Jo, we have. I

29:58

disagree with that Center.

29:59

I would love to get your take them that I do not believe

30:01

they've stayed vigilant. I think, in fact,

30:03

they've turned their heads and run and said every

30:05

illegal immigrant or anyone that wants to come across

30:07

the border, come on.

30:08

Over what utter

30:10

and complete crap that entire

30:13

answer Listen. John

30:15

Kirby is an admiral in the Navy. It

30:18

makes me sad to watch an

30:20

admiral just lie to the American

30:23

people. You know, one of the things he says, we're

30:25

vigilant at the ports of entry, Well,

30:28

no kidding you, moron. Terrorists

30:30

don't enter at the ports of entry, and they don't

30:32

come up and say, hey, I'm in a mos terrorists. I want

30:34

to kill people like they're

30:36

stupid, but they're not said that stupid. You

30:39

want to know the stat that is horrifying.

30:42

Two million got

30:45

aways. So we're now north

30:47

of eight million people who crossed the illegally in this country.

30:50

Roughly six million have come in and turned themselves

30:52

in. They've said okay, I'm here, they

30:54

look for border patrol, they turned themselves in. Most

30:57

of them they're fleeing

30:59

pop they're fleeing economic

31:01

misery. They're coming to America because Joe

31:04

Biden has said, if you come to America, you get to stay.

31:06

It's a disaster. And many of them are

31:08

being abused. They're being brutalized

31:11

by traffickers, they're being sexually

31:13

assaulted, they're being left for dead. But

31:16

those six million actually worried me

31:18

much much less than

31:20

the two million who are the two million. The

31:22

two million are the godaways. Now, what's a god away?

31:25

A god away is someone that

31:27

border patrol observes. They observe through

31:29

a censor, they observe through visual

31:32

observation, but they don't catch them. They're

31:34

the people that run. Now,

31:36

why do the god Aways concern me? Because look,

31:39

the people who are turning themselves in. When I

31:41

was down at the Southern border

31:43

Thursday night at midnight patrol, the

31:46

group that turned themselves in, they looked for border

31:48

patrol, they turned themselves in. We spent

31:51

thirty to forty five minutes visiting with them.

31:53

They were mostly women and children. Look, I don't think

31:56

the five year olds are going to commit acts

31:58

of terror. Been

32:00

brutalized, they've been assaulted,

32:02

they like, what they've gone through is

32:04

horrific and inhumane. But the

32:06

five year olds are not a national security

32:08

threat to the United States. The

32:10

god Aways are the people that are actively

32:13

avoiding and evading

32:16

border patrol apprehension, and they are

32:18

Many of them are criminals, so they have criminal

32:20

histories. They're murderers, they're rapists,

32:23

their child molesters, they have DUIs.

32:26

Many of them have horrible criminal histories.

32:28

Others of them are gang members, they're MS

32:31

thirteen or otherwise, but

32:34

others of them are

32:37

worse. It's the two million

32:39

god Aways. If you're a terrorist

32:42

and you want to murder Americans, you're

32:44

not in the people that are turning yourself into

32:46

the border patrol. You're in the two million

32:49

god aways And the point that he's

32:51

ignoring, well, we're vigilant at the points

32:53

of entry, ports of entry. Well

32:55

great, that's not where the terrorists

32:57

are coming in. And it is so

32:59

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34:59

and that's that Joe Biden has

35:01

welcomed six million illegal

35:03

aliens in the US, succeeding the population

35:05

now of thirty one

35:08

states. Now, now, let's just think

35:10

about that six million illegal aliens

35:12

into the United States of America. A foreign

35:15

population exceeds the population

35:17

center of thirty one different

35:19

states.

35:20

And the White House was asked about

35:22

this.

35:23

Okay, They were asked like, hey, are

35:25

you guys gonna talk about how this

35:27

number and not only that, how many more illegal

35:29

aliens are you going to let in? Senator

35:32

Johnson had this to say, one of your colleagues.

35:35

Sect Jamy Oorca, So I've asked you this in the past.

35:38

What numbers are represented here? How

35:40

many people has this administration

35:43

let in by encountering,

35:46

processing, dispersing, or that

35:48

have come in as a known or

35:51

unknown got away? Approximately?

35:53

I don't need an exact number. So what do we

35:55

got center? Let me let me see I

35:57

need numbers again, don't feel abust me.

35:59

How many people.

36:00

Has this administration led into the country.

36:02

Let me say at the outset that our

36:04

job would be a lot easier if the broken

36:06

immigration system was in this sector.

36:08

I want a number.

36:10

How many people have you led into this country?

36:12

I should also, Okay, I'll

36:14

give you the number.

36:15

It's about six million.

36:18

He won't answer the damn question because he doesn't

36:20

want to be on record. It's saying, yes,

36:23

we've let in the population that is more than

36:25

thirty one different states in America.

36:28

Well, and it's worse than that because

36:31

the six million is just the people who've been apprehended.

36:35

They're an additional two million got away.

36:37

So the actual number is eight million

36:39

illegal immigrants who crossed under Joe Biden.

36:42

And that is larger than all

36:44

but twelve states in America. And

36:47

I want to do something. I want to read to you the

36:50

states that are smaller

36:53

than the number of illegal immigrants who come in under

36:55

Joe Biden. Wyoming has five hundred

36:57

and eighty one thousand population. Vermont,

37:00

DC, Alaska, North

37:03

Dakota, South Dakota, Delaware, Rhode Island,

37:05

Montana, Maine, New Hampshire, Hawaii,

37:08

West Virginia, Idaho, Nebraska, New

37:10

Mexico, Kansas, Mississippi, Arkansas,

37:13

Nevada, Iowa, Puerto Rico,

37:15

Utah, Connecticut, Oklahoma, Oregon,

37:18

Kentucky, Louisiana, Alabama,

37:21

South Carolina, Minnesota, Colorado,

37:23

Wisconsin, Maryland, Missouri,

37:26

Indiana, Massachusetts, Tennessee,

37:29

Arizona, and Washington State.

37:32

Washington State has seven million, seven hundred

37:34

and eighty five thousand people in it.

37:36

It is only when you get to Virginia. Virginia

37:38

has eight million, six hundred and eighty three

37:40

thousand people in it, so we haven't

37:43

yet crossed the population of Virginia.

37:45

Virginia is the twelfth largest state in America.

37:48

We are between thirteen and twelve,

37:51

and by the end of the Biden administration will

37:53

pass Virginia, will pass New Jersey

37:55

at nine million, two hundred and sixty one thousand,

37:58

will probably pass Michigan at ten million,

38:00

thirty four thousand. We may pass North

38:02

Carolina at ten million,

38:04

six hundred ninety eight thousand, and

38:06

you get into the territory of number eight

38:09

Georgia ten million, nine hundred

38:11

and twelve thousand, or Ohio

38:14

number seven at eleven million, seven hundred and fifty

38:16

six thousand. That's how many

38:18

illegal immigrants have crossed

38:21

under Joe Biden in less

38:23

than three years, eight million,

38:26

larger than the population of

38:29

all but a dozen US states.

38:31

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40:22

up to eighty two thousand

40:24

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40:27

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40:29

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