Isaac Evans-Frantz is joined first by State Senator Terry Williams and later by State Senator Ruth Hardy to discuss the appointment of Interim Secretary of Agency of Education Zoie Saunders.

Then, Isaac welcomes in four additional guest to discuss the topic, including:

Tim O’Leary - Vermont educator

Darren Allen - Vermont-NEA

Jay Nichols - Vermont Principals Association

Addie Lentzner - Vermont Student Anti-Racism Network