Guys, I’m trying not to be hyperbolic with how I describe this conversation, and the man I had it with… Stan Mitchell has been someone I’ve looked up to as a pastor for the last few years, someone that I’ve texted back and forth with countless times—trying to navigate frustrating situations at church and new ideas we’re dreaming about, and this episode today is the first actual conversation we've had over the phone. We talked for nearly 2 hours, and it’s here, unedited, unfiltered, for you to listen in on.    It’s unfortunately rare to come across progressive Christian leaders that have scripture memorized, and a deep love of the tradition—which he claims has always been progressive, from the moment the story began.    We talk about hell, universalism, the future of megachurches, social media’s beauty and downfalls, and he hits me with a half-dozen moments of personal conviction that I’ll likely listen back to a hundred times.   If you’re on Facebook, please find Stan Mitchell and follow his posts. I’m thrilled to have made a new friend in him, and I know we’ve got a lot of work to do together in the coming years.    This week’s episode is brought to you by our sponsor—calling your old friends. This is something I’ve started doing again over the last 2-3 months. I’ll go for a walk in the evening, scroll through my contacts on my phone, see a name I haven’t seen in a long time, and then just calling them. 75% of the time they don’t answer, I leave a voicemail—typically thanking them for something I love about them, and then immediately call the next name that pops into my head. When there’s no agenda other than just saying “hi,” there’s nothing to prepare or overthink… It’s free and reminds you of all the people that have played significant roles in your life over the years.    So that’s this week’s sponsor: Calling your old friends. Try it. I dare you.   And without further adieu, here’s today’s conversation: