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Was. The soon. My

3:06

with last exhausted can't keep

3:08

up ladies ladies ladies, they

3:10

did was happening this week

3:12

With last is suitably the

3:14

word. Am a writer Oh

3:16

everything we're talking about this

3:18

week I can keep up.

3:20

Any who fled into am

3:22

Sam Sanders. I'm saying Jones

3:24

and I'm like Stafford and

3:26

you're listening to Find Sex.

3:36

Welcome to middle of the Whiplash

3:38

on a side job and that

3:40

am worried my neck brace. Oh

3:42

okay so we of course of

3:44

we have to we have to.

3:46

How could we not talk about

3:49

the back and forth and back

3:51

and forth again? Between Kendrick Lamar

3:53

and Drake is taken over, the

3:55

internet is taken over our group

3:57

tax probably yours as well. So.

4:00

Blue Sky told me that they're like regular

4:02

weatherman other local station Like a six year

4:04

old guy was talking about it like. Us

4:08

up with have one of the enormous as

4:10

is truly permeated culture. My favorite part is

4:12

like one of the distracts from Kindred. It

4:14

had been out for a few hours and

4:16

then I saw videos of people bop into

4:18

it in the clubs in the yes, oh

4:20

yeah there are outs and the sea lions.

4:23

I have my windows open, the weather was

4:25

nice and like I could ever people's cars

4:27

people start. I live on a floor by

4:29

the way. So while they were blasting

4:31

as area since we're gonna get into

4:33

all of it this is so much

4:35

it is up. There was a a

4:37

rich just like rest assured us as

4:39

a little to lists and then we

4:42

are of course are also going to

4:44

talk about the Met gala sense of

4:46

course that's happening in the middle of

4:48

everything else why not sore put on

4:50

ago but before we get into all

4:52

of that the second ladies how ya

4:54

feelin as that you gotta get low

4:56

smirk on your face how you doin

4:58

I'm I'm laughing because as I am

5:00

would have built my coffee or myself

5:02

I'll fly seizure or something like moving

5:04

too fast. today's fumbling, flustered I move

5:07

and I just think I'm feeling swastikas

5:09

have so much going on in the

5:11

world and I'm also setting a plane

5:13

tomorrow to go to New York for

5:15

some work self with you guys are.

5:18

however over the weekend i'll lot of i

5:20

my hands because since last week i thought

5:23

stomach virus which has been a long time

5:25

so they have lemon and let me tell

5:27

you i was out as a to my

5:29

apple. Watch which ever as I've been tracking

5:31

my steps I got five hundred steps on

5:33

like sat out which is less of an

5:36

abnormal bath. I just remember that might be

5:38

as I guess and I thought I think

5:40

this is the most depressing thing of the

5:42

world's so I was really just like comatose.

5:44

I'm a house or most of the weekend

5:46

but I did. It's catch up on a

5:48

lot of bad T V and judging us

5:50

are talking about a rap beef. I want

5:52

to bring up obese that is going viral

5:54

and tic toc and now on Netflix that

5:56

I just need to see if our listeners

5:58

are watching which is the. Selling the O

6:00

C Season Three Cats are you are watching

6:02

the son of the Data to hold on.

6:05

Hold on hold a whole. That is it

6:07

in the selling Sunset Cinematic Universe and selling

6:09

says that cinematic universe and but they are

6:11

mess seem in something as emerging and I'm

6:13

seeing a lot of people watch the season

6:15

or series for some because of this but

6:17

there is a queen on there. Who.

6:19

Is openly queer he disappears and first

6:22

two seasons the season three comes back

6:24

with vengeance because he accuses to the

6:26

very hot streak. Castmates have been a

6:28

little queer curious are leading him on

6:31

a middle man. To. Man

6:33

and thing left my babies. One of

6:35

them propositions him it with his wife

6:37

when night at dinner so that he

6:40

spills his aides is. Engulfed

6:42

the whole season and these men are fighting

6:44

for their lives. Is that what is interesting

6:46

for me and we can you know talk

6:48

for a deeper with you guys? See it

6:50

or other people see it's is. It's me.

6:53

It's really a good study of masculinity right

6:55

now In America and South. When you push

6:57

against masculine, they are irrationally called out for

6:59

not being normative or like others. How you

7:01

admins are fighting for your lives and he's

7:03

really aggressive kind analyze hindered my race. kind

7:05

of like hundred and drag. so I was.

7:07

I was watching these in a mostly like

7:09

why guys fighting with each other about like

7:12

bro. I did say three some

7:14

I would never have sex with.

7:16

Ah desire up. Over

7:18

six this feels like tinder act and drink

7:21

in some way Before though there was one

7:23

moment where he shows that the receives the

7:25

queer person in is like you said I

7:27

had nice legs and he does know I

7:29

did. You could look at my instagram and

7:32

he pulls up on Instagram the Yemenis as

7:34

vim legs he got why said them later

7:36

because you're like there's huge you been working

7:38

out what's the matter loud but I'm like

7:40

way of going on. It's just

7:42

so our homo eroticism of male relationships

7:45

that he don't i could discuss number

7:47

of queer person enters it's kind of

7:49

brings to light in there is an

7:51

anxiety and it's in a fear that

7:54

erupts around him into another rich text

7:56

to really dive site me So much

7:58

yeah I I do. The like:

8:00

This is going to come out

8:02

with a lot of Kendrick and

8:05

Drake. but to set that aside,

8:07

I do feel like so much

8:09

of traditional masculinity is Homer so

8:11

so def not homosexuals so what

8:13

you often see his There's this

8:15

understanding of do it. But.

8:17

Don't say it to him so you're

8:20

like performing in a way where it's

8:22

like others elders. I mean so problem

8:24

in someone's legs but also complement someone's

8:26

let's but out but but it that's

8:29

fine until someone like basically says like

8:31

here's the headlines, what's going on here

8:33

to I'm just sitting here google Amy's

8:35

Men are very pretty bare. Very pretty,

8:38

Very pretty. You know, look at it

8:40

if you're interested. It's good drama. It's

8:42

low stakes I'm like but the Kendra

8:44

contract is giving us lately. Somehow

8:48

you do. You. Know I

8:50

talked with the all last week

8:52

about my travel wheat from hell

8:54

but I made it and my

8:56

big thing this week is just

8:59

like a had this like moment

9:01

yesterday where I had to say

9:03

to myself. You. Are you know

9:05

what to do? You already know what to

9:07

do. I had been sleeping really badly the

9:09

last week as I was stressed the but

9:11

others worked travel and this and this and

9:13

that's some. Tell him my therapist all about

9:15

it yesterday while walking the dogs and he

9:17

cites or sam. You. Saying the

9:19

not sleeping, do you want to revisit

9:22

our conversation about sleep etiquette. And

9:24

I was like i guess girl is the bottom

9:26

line of a long and short as they. Put.

9:29

Your phone down before you go to bed. Put.

9:31

It in the other room. This is using

9:33

the problems and so I did it last

9:35

night. Kept the phone out of my

9:37

room and I slept like a baby. And

9:40

it was just like Sam, you knew this.

9:42

This has been the answer for a long

9:44

time. You know what to do, Do what

9:46

you know to do, you know? and so

9:48

lights giddiness. Reminder that a thing that can

9:51

be really stressful for you are hard for

9:53

you. Oftentimes the answer is right there. You

9:55

know what to do just for can do

9:57

it. Literally put him. I found out last

9:59

night. A change. Is

10:02

so funny because as you said that I realized

10:04

again kind of like the things we do as

10:06

opposed to like what we say and acknowledge when

10:08

I come into my office to right i never

10:10

bring my phone my some stays in the kitchen.

10:14

But I always take my phone is when

10:16

I'm going to bed at that of lights

10:18

up in looking to two thousand forty five

10:20

minutes or so. Yeah and it is rouse

10:23

you up because before you not like I

10:25

will end up looking to Instagram real the

10:27

tic tacs then I want to google something

10:29

then I'm in the depths of Wikipedia for.

10:31

Forty five minutes. The.

10:34

Answer is simple my friends with the phone

10:36

down. While. I love this. My sister

10:38

does this season it for years and she swears

10:40

by putting her phone in the other room. but

10:42

I'd never do it because that's how I wake

10:44

up in the mornings is also like have my

10:46

alarm, How do you wake up without a phone

10:48

in the room? Is it just in the other

10:50

side? The how he does here as in the

10:52

distant. I need to pay Jonathan for to session

10:54

because I'm just telling our he told me it's

10:56

ah he was like Sam. If

10:59

you worried about. Not. Weaken up.

11:01

With. The phone and the other room. What? You

11:03

can do is buy an alarm clock

11:05

that is oh wow! I like. A

11:09

law that, ah, any of that,

11:11

my vibe. Okay, Sleeping

11:13

Beauty, I love that. About

11:16

they get operator of was a

11:18

good how are you today So

11:20

the vibes are Muslim. you know

11:22

we've been the lesser we talking

11:24

about. You know the protests on

11:27

college campuses? Of course it's still

11:29

going on and you know I

11:31

think generally speaking people are at

11:33

best disappointed by house so many

11:35

not all but many universities have

11:37

just behaves and now we have

11:40

commencement going on and just as

11:42

a reminder the. Graduating Class of

11:44

Twenty Twenty Fourth. These college students were

11:46

seniors during the pandemic and Twenty Twenty

11:48

So so this means that these are

11:50

students who probably didn't get to go

11:53

to prom because I would have been

11:55

spring of twenty twenties and they certainly

11:57

didn't get to have like, are you

11:59

know that. The snow graduation and so

12:01

we're they are four years later, an

12:03

obscure in Columbus where I live, just

12:05

just very surreal and under the i

12:07

don't have to read from some reporting

12:10

because like what? Okay, During.

12:12

The commencement ceremony. A member

12:14

of a students family sell

12:17

some the stamps and doubt.

12:19

It. Very. High up

12:21

we don't have a lot of information

12:23

but. I mean that is.

12:25

You know what from matic would have been

12:28

for this family was with this person's everyone

12:30

saw at like Students are like you know,

12:32

visibly upset freaking out the university doesn't acknowledge

12:34

it. Just goes on with

12:36

the ceremony Now look. I

12:39

don't know how I would have handled

12:41

it, but fortunately I'm not a university

12:43

leader of So light. So what happened

12:45

during the graduation Third happened during the

12:47

graduation ceremony. Students were freaking out. Boat

12:49

weight. Because of course

12:52

in this air, this dystopic error, everything

12:54

gets even crazier. The commencement speaker this

12:56

year. his name is Chris Pan or

12:58

he graduated from a was You and

13:00

Ninety Nine I. He just seems like

13:03

a random tech guys were that Facebook

13:05

Mackenzie. He posted about this on linked

13:07

and before his speech, but during. His

13:09

actual species that I got some

13:11

help from a I'd to write

13:14

this material and he's like the

13:16

I stands worth. I was got

13:18

intelligence or I allow know why

13:20

it's hours Bothered to advocate for

13:23

bitcoin. M

13:25

I got booed like people booing and in

13:27

a one point I thought he was thinking

13:29

i had to see video footage of my

13:31

friends are trolling me Why? just feels like

13:33

a perfect metaphor for how some real of

13:36

with like what's going on what are you

13:38

know is so. In like it's not

13:40

just surreal is dystopian. So yeah I live

13:42

not too far from U S C and

13:44

some mornings when I'm running I will jog

13:47

through campus. As you know U S C

13:49

along with Colombian other schools have totally cancel

13:51

graduate and I think us he is now

13:53

doing a party and apart for their kids.

13:56

were no real graduations but I was running

13:58

around us seats and I couldn't. It

14:00

in does. It's chains around Emmett

14:02

and like you know this was

14:04

happening. but to see it feels

14:06

like oh my God. I. Was

14:09

driving to your house not that long ago

14:11

Sam yeah and I pass by U S

14:13

C and of the oh Usa I was

14:15

forget it's right here at zero for the

14:17

campus and suddenly became less pretty because of

14:20

gates are skewed I've never seen and such

14:22

a force and it may say and and

14:24

it just felt like a compound that is

14:26

is yeah we're heard it just doesn't to

14:29

the used to just like blend with the

14:31

neighborhood exactly admire and for years U S

14:33

C had tried to become a better neighbor

14:35

to is black and brown neighborhood lawns and

14:38

everything seems. Sin to the community any who

14:40

as this is off if you're the yeah

14:42

I think I just like just to acknowledge

14:44

for listeners I think something that we've all

14:46

been in different ways reckoning with since twenty

14:48

twenty is the way and which really like

14:50

a couple of weeks into the pandemic. Frankly,

14:52

a lot of us were like oh so

14:54

we're just gonna. Work. Through

14:57

this like we're not gonna have. Okay

14:59

and that's that feeling that cognitive dissonance

15:01

I think has lived with us and

15:03

actually kind of feel like maybe now

15:05

for years later you know America in

15:07

and so many aspects of culture try

15:09

to keeps adding like everything's fine and

15:12

it's becoming unavoidable. My pertains on the

15:14

gates now you know, so that same

15:16

their own the gates hard to overlook,

15:18

baths and mom and you know to

15:20

that point we also just wanted to

15:22

do a quick update on what's going

15:25

on in Gaza. I'm as of

15:27

are recording time. This is Tuesday's

15:29

twelve thirty Pm Eastern that we

15:31

are having this conversation. The Washington

15:34

Post had this to say. The

15:36

Israel Defense Forces said on Tuesday

15:38

that it took control of the

15:40

gods inside of the Rafah crossing

15:42

with Egypt overnight marking it's first

15:45

ground in person into the southern

15:47

thousand city. While Abu Omar, a

15:49

Gaza border officials said travel and

15:51

the flow with Aids into the

15:53

Strip quote stopped completely as a

15:56

result. Is Real said it

15:58

would send mediators to Egypt to negotiate

16:00

a C fire and hostage. Really still

16:02

renewing hopes for pause and fighting. Even.

16:05

As it pressed on with Us

16:07

military operation in to Rasa and

16:09

just a reminder of about one

16:12

million people have been living as

16:14

refugees in Rafah sense basically October.

16:17

That's. The latest and eyelids Elsinore I heard

16:19

on Npr think This morning Cindy Mccain who

16:21

works at the You and now oversees the

16:24

food programs was stating that you know they

16:26

have about enough food for million people sitting

16:28

at the gates from the you add just

16:31

sitting there so just in a kitchen him

16:33

in a can't get an answer. Now this

16:35

in a this ground incursion will only make

16:37

that even more impossible. That suit is literally

16:40

no feet away from the seaports. A so

16:42

awful and we mad at her kids for

16:44

protesting goof. Off right. Well.

16:47

Ladies. Before he gets the episode.

16:50

Or we want to thank everyone listening

16:52

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it is. My son Sam is famously

17:09

posting videos a lot their of him

17:11

like a video is the until a

17:13

list All of a yeah come through

17:15

if the funds as well. Bliss that

17:17

sal we jump into Today's episode of

17:19

was do. Or

17:29

on our on our listeners it's

17:31

time we are they gonna have

17:33

to discuss in breakdown fully this

17:35

rat beast between Qinetiq Lamar, Ann

17:37

Arbor, he Drake dream of the

17:39

grassy same you know This weekend

17:42

I was so excited because the

17:44

stories and really fun and it's

17:46

like other just trading insults. But

17:48

latest update around two am Tuesday

17:50

morning there was a shooting outside

17:52

of Breaks House in Canada. One

17:55

man was injured but it was

17:57

nods rate. We do not. Know

17:59

for sure. Yeah, if the rat

18:01

be that anything to do with it,

18:03

but we have to acknowledge violence has

18:05

ensured. That chats. Ah, so that

18:08

puts hell of a somber note on

18:10

the whole thing. like talk about good

18:12

movie a coincidence by allows. Yeah, yeah.

18:14

just to give context, Drake lives and

18:17

like the Bellaire of Toronto, there are

18:19

shootings in this part of to Work

18:21

For Me category as less shootings then

18:23

America Blame that goes up there. I

18:25

mean. For their to

18:27

be a shooting. On. His property,

18:29

the cell crime scene in the

18:31

wake of this piece. Feel like,

18:34

you know, Redlands? Yeah, yeah. so

18:36

we're gonna talk about all of

18:38

this and how this rap battle

18:40

seems to have taken place at

18:42

a faster pace than anything I've

18:44

ever seen. The music before works

18:46

first. I'm. Honest not

18:48

explain the battle up and to.

18:50

Now for our listeners side salad

18:52

or would it be able do

18:55

it in two men? Yes I

18:57

do. I was time and it

18:59

out. Have you practiced? Have you

19:01

buy our girl Avineri? Maccabi voters

19:03

were gonna see us and tell

19:05

start o'clock I'm not gonna go

19:07

through dates I'm not gonna miss

19:10

and song titles. I'm just gonna

19:12

tell ya who said. What?

19:14

And. Or bring out out okay. I'd here

19:16

we have. Three. Two.

19:19

One in Two Thousand Twenty three,

19:21

Drake and J Cole released the

19:23

track claiming that the two of

19:26

them and Kendrick are the best.

19:28

Three rappers outs physically bath on

19:30

another track and he says is

19:32

no Top three anything, it's just

19:34

him. After that J Cole releases

19:36

his own distracts says Pinpricks work

19:38

is made. Within a few days

19:40

later he apologizes on a concert

19:42

stage to Kendrick in front of

19:44

his own fans, then Drake for

19:46

that a distract making fun of

19:48

Kendrick. For making pop songs with

19:51

Taylor Swift and Maroon Five. but

19:53

because Rick Ross was mentioned in

19:55

that song see release the track

19:57

claiming that Drake got a Bbl.

20:00

After. That another distract from Drakes. The

20:02

most of us couldn't hear it because

20:04

that was taken off line because Drake

20:06

used an ai to possible ways on

20:08

the track without permission. Or

20:11

else phase one part to sit.

20:13

it's really fast and wilde. Next.

20:16

Over the span of just a

20:18

few days, Drake intend to release

20:20

dueling distract on multiple platforms sometimes

20:22

on the same day it was

20:24

wild Since records rape a bad

20:26

parent says his abs are fake

20:28

alludes to Olympic use Drake claims

20:30

concerts child really isn't his and

20:32

says the kids with beats his

20:34

wife Kids within dedicates a verse

20:36

tude race own son says he

20:38

sorry Drake is that kid's father

20:41

and this as Drake have more

20:43

kids that he's hiding also contributes

20:45

uses Drake. Have been a pedophile

20:47

because of that home Millie Bobby

20:49

Brown stuff in the midst of

20:51

all of this producer metro booming

20:53

release as a free does beat

20:56

called Bbl Drizzle. And. He

20:58

urges people to make wraps

21:00

dissing Drake over the beats.

21:02

Nothing yet. After. This Drake

21:04

claims that tinder it is only this

21:06

concerned with pedophile yes, because he was

21:08

molested as a child. Centred has wrapped

21:11

before about legacies of abuse in his

21:13

own family. Now keep in mind all

21:15

of this is taking place at a

21:17

pace never before seen and wraps if

21:19

you add it all up. There are

21:21

a total of ten distracts released in

21:24

the span of about three weeks, counting

21:26

all parties. Several tracked him up on

21:28

the same day with an hours of

21:30

each other's There were and celery, actors

21:32

and many beasts. Questions. About what is

21:34

to are fake and all of it's.

21:37

even a cameo from Taylor's This Producer

21:39

Death and and Asks. It is a

21:41

new raw beef era with that vibe.

21:43

Sec listeners you are all caught up

21:45

sent you Please. About

21:48

other round of applause. Sam

21:51

I have watched six Sox that are flying the

21:53

length of what you just said. so grab the

21:55

seven himself. He but is. That

21:58

was so houses. You know

22:00

I've been in this sense. euphoria, euphoria.

22:03

Got my yes, oh yes oh yes.

22:05

As you both know and listeners probably

22:07

won't be Smith I'd There's so many

22:09

aspects of straight closer but especially straight

22:11

male culture than I'm like it's I

22:13

am so grateful it's not my business.

22:15

But yeah for you. Suddenly it was

22:17

my Billie did something wrong with you

22:19

know which I would shrink city and

22:21

of Poetry like when Tinder It. Really

22:24

gets to it. You reminded that this

22:26

man won a pulitzer for his rap

22:28

or reason he the workmen know I

22:30

want to get into the beef and

22:32

all that. but we cannot start this

22:34

conversation without first addressing that obese that

22:36

felt very fun over the weekend all

22:38

of a sudden did not because of

22:40

that violence. I mentioned a Drakes house

22:42

how we all taken this. You.

22:44

Know I literally for the last summer they as a

22:46

say in this is the best How to beat the

22:48

no one gets hurt at him at See That anymore.

22:51

Yeah I know it's heels that have returned to the

22:53

eighties or nineties where people. Really? Got hurt

22:55

him Some people died very publicly you know

22:57

to pass a d others and this is

22:59

my fear. Personally things have been elevating a

23:02

lot like less. Let us not forget major

23:04

selling was shot in the foot in the

23:06

Up men and it's industry during the winter

23:09

it's really include Aid sonos I wanna try

23:11

Exactly says she was I So this this

23:13

morning waking up to my own mother and

23:15

Toronto taxing about among others per game is

23:18

there was a shootings a blood which is

23:20

very terrifying. The Republic oh my god whose

23:22

the shock of ahead at like five amps.

23:25

But it felt like what we grew up

23:27

with as kids when you dots rap battles

23:29

and see what happened in the wake of

23:31

those and it made me sad. I was

23:33

like oh not again. Yeah,

23:35

I mean it's a try not to

23:37

be so precious about it because you

23:39

know in many ways I think of

23:41

hip hop as a confrontational art form.

23:43

Whether it was guess you know, D

23:46

J's or In Sees literally standing in

23:48

front of each other. free styling It

23:50

was always. It was designed to be

23:52

a back and forth before it became

23:54

like now we're doing albums and singles

23:56

and so it is to use one

23:59

of contracts. Favorite terms:

24:01

part of the Dna A new

24:03

forms. But yeah, I mean, you

24:05

know a friend of mine, Marcus

24:07

Morris said so unsightly over the

24:09

weekend. He's like if they were

24:11

just like watching black manhood fight

24:13

itself back and forth over these

24:15

distract. So you know we know

24:17

men whose relationship to violence and

24:20

I'm. Maybe. It's inevitable that's

24:22

really demir. Yes, That

24:24

you mentioned something quite in sustain about

24:26

this hobbies you said did this rat

24:29

these is giving you bravo real since

24:31

his wives energy. I love that idea.

24:33

Explain it. Ah it does it feel

24:35

like something that Andy Cohen said the

24:38

Japan as are Mario third land the

24:40

wrong again so you yesterday he should

24:42

not but I'm you know for me

24:45

it feels like the real Housewives of

24:47

a few levels in a wonder is

24:49

the an obsession with place? Nope. Housewives

24:52

are defined by the. Places much that

24:54

I'm from and these places see this place.

24:56

like the black franchises like Atlanta and Potomac.

24:58

there are some ethic fight surrounds. who is

25:01

actually from their wix? You run the place

25:03

where she can't speak for that place, who's

25:05

authentically from that place whose money is real

25:07

is another thing that comes up a lot

25:10

on Real Housewives. And between these guys specifically

25:12

the draped them Rick Ross which would make

25:14

it into bus all these rappers are obsessed

25:16

with money. Who actually has a to actually

25:19

can spend this you know with an awesome

25:21

bianna adjustments and recross. But there's these. The

25:23

universe that and built up around these men

25:26

and the connections between them and that feels

25:28

very real Housewives where each character's defined by

25:30

their the relation to war against another character

25:32

in their communities and how that Tinson pushes

25:35

them all against each other. how they resolve

25:37

it said. let me just like a good

25:39

example of that's like not like us That

25:41

verse were Kendrick literally goes through like seemingly

25:44

every rapper and hip hop who was vouched

25:46

for or against rate of some what and

25:48

that is the thing that feels very housewife.

25:51

be intimate. you know there was an era.

25:53

When a lot of the biggest rappers

25:55

when they were issuing disses the bitterness

25:57

settle. He's at the ribs in a

25:59

lot. It's to get through they were

26:01

talking about. Everything about this rap battle

26:04

has been incredibly explicit. Naming.

26:06

Names responded to every bar

26:08

right away. Every word mirrors

26:11

response. Every insult merits debate

26:13

and is level. Of

26:15

back and forth feels quite house was to me.

26:18

Down. And significantly, I mean you

26:20

know, I think Meghan Be stallions distract

26:22

his wits. You know we said at

26:24

the time. I don't think this song

26:27

is about Nicky. I think this song

26:29

is about men like Drake and other

26:31

men in the industry. Yeah, that sounds

26:33

like an example of a more traditional

26:35

de sac to your family of subtlety.

26:37

He knows his biggest mad at me

26:40

they need to be bad at Mit

26:42

Megan's Law soon as they all didn't

26:44

say was wearing trading Kendrick My kids

26:46

are like I'm talking to your son

26:48

right now. Adonis. Let's go get

26:50

the did you say sondra on the

26:53

truck with the mother. It was a

26:55

wild. You know when we

26:57

talk about how this feels very

26:59

housewife in. I'm thinking back to

27:02

scanned of all of which was

27:04

part of that. It's Cinematic Universe

27:06

and that was a scandal. Were

27:08

super fans, were looking for every

27:10

clue they had looking for secret

27:13

messages. This battlefield very much like

27:15

that as well. People are finding

27:17

hidden meanings in song titles in

27:19

single covers. I call it Taylor

27:21

Swift numerology. I feel like says

27:23

her fans made this a thing.

27:26

Where everything they do with a secret message in

27:28

it's her job to figure it out. Still feels

27:30

like that Telus with Numerology Eats has been a

27:32

part of this rap battle in a way that

27:34

it hasn't been before. I don't know if I

27:37

liked it, but I find the quite insistent. Yeah.

27:39

I'm into your eyes on to talk

27:41

over the weekend. Swift is worth commenting

27:44

on exact they were like oh you

27:46

know what we're We're not very familiar

27:48

with all of this but we are

27:50

able to on Widow has resisted says

27:52

yeah, it's it's a language I'm yeah.

27:55

I think technology media, the way we

27:57

communicate, the way pop culture exist in

27:59

this. Opium Landscapes. I didn't

28:01

just creates speed and intensity. And

28:03

and one of the things with

28:06

that kind of Conspiracy Theorists level

28:08

of intensity is you know everything's

28:10

going on that we've talked about

28:12

throughout this episode. And then here

28:15

comes this be and it's delicious.

28:17

and I think it is satisfying

28:19

to be able to embrace what

28:22

I'm calling the full immersion Other,

28:24

you know, the hyper fixation. I

28:26

mean it's is not unusual right

28:28

when people are going. Through really

28:30

difficult circumstances a by kind of

28:33

try to divert their attention to

28:35

something that feel safer and more

28:37

manageable. So you know dare I

28:39

say if if a drama was

28:41

Marks Students are is aimed at

28:43

these be super celebrities wants it

28:45

You know in this era of

28:47

always on media is not just

28:49

how many times you listen to

28:51

my song is how much time

28:53

to use. Been thinking about me

28:55

because that is going to predict

28:57

if you buy my Mertz. if

28:59

you. Go to my So if you

29:01

give me more money and so the

29:04

stars especially Taylor they know haven't a

29:06

bob is not enough. You need your

29:08

fans obsession. Death. And I

29:10

would say that there's something about the using

29:12

of fans obsession and pair social relationships you

29:14

as a way to maintain power and order

29:17

in the chaos that you will the events.

29:19

So if we look at how media changed

29:21

since the nineties or thing about these pass

29:23

a puppy in a when he thinks would

29:25

break in would cover them Him would go

29:27

on Mtv and talk about them or the

29:29

other channels and do these interviews with you

29:31

know Big Media Alex now number the youth

29:33

and beauty outlets and events in a Vice

29:35

President Kamala Harris Yes Big Meaty Alice the

29:37

youth in a Celebrity Interviews and I use

29:39

their own platform. Stats hold the conversation so

29:42

of course they're gonna use this to

29:44

be where the battle is wage. With

29:46

their music as well they're winning and

29:48

their monetizing. And speaking of Newark New

29:50

covered the best coverage of this whole

29:52

beasts Dc academics was do an Instagram

29:54

live streams as the tracks are dropping.

29:56

it was while to follow us I

29:58

say to give details. Academics credit. but

30:01

your I know, really? Good

30:03

yeah can I say one thing that does

30:05

fill relevance? One thing I think it's exciting

30:07

and I want us to point out of

30:09

drugs introduce is usually it's coded as feminine.

30:12

And it's not Swift's we go back

30:14

to the Beatles. Usually the media perception

30:16

of the obsessed San is that url

30:18

girlies seeing and girl and of several

30:21

resists music it's tried because they don't

30:23

they're not interested in Syria stuff's but

30:25

all of us know if you've had

30:27

the misfortune of having to listen to

30:29

a man out of our ports yes

30:31

my door statistics such and you're like

30:33

group no one oh my god sense

30:35

and of right hip hop. heads of

30:38

done this for a long time too.

30:40

So I also hope this kind of

30:42

broadens. Our understanding of that kind

30:44

of obsession. yeah we all can

30:46

be obsesses weekend not to have

30:48

this conversation and not discuss the

30:51

big allegations leveled against straight by

30:53

Kendrick Lamar. He alleged him have

30:55

been a pedophile and you thought

30:57

about in the group chat how

30:59

just the allegation itself. Ah highlights

31:02

the way the Me To has

31:04

yet to really hit hip hop.

31:06

Sayeed. Why? You

31:08

know I. I don't fully know.

31:10

What I will say is that

31:12

we had many years of allegations,

31:14

credible allegations against our Kelly. For

31:16

example, before the Harvey Weinstein reporting

31:18

brought us what we now think

31:20

of the Me To moment and

31:22

Twenty Seventeen I think zip up.

31:24

In the music industry, it's very

31:26

sadly compartmentalised those allegations. So like

31:28

Harvey one seen, it was like

31:30

sees a bad guy But also

31:32

he reminds us of other bad

31:34

guys throughout the industry when we

31:36

think about abuse, rape, culture, And violence

31:39

against women? That didn't happen in hip

31:41

hop. It was like it's Just or

31:43

Kelly. My hope. Is that

31:45

we're now at a tipping point? You know

31:47

when I think maybe we can look to

31:50

you know their investigations into did he for

31:52

example as like a sign that things are

31:54

changing? I think it's good. To.

31:56

Call out Violence Rape

31:59

Culture. The use it's good,

32:01

we need to sign light on

32:03

it. But I will say Centric

32:05

himself has collaborated with known abusers

32:07

like Kodak Blacks as recently as

32:09

his last album Sophia Either of

32:11

these guys are saints today that

32:13

well and there's a difference between

32:15

pursuing real allegations in the spirit

32:18

of me to to find justice

32:20

and calling the rapper you hate

32:22

a pedophile you know, like it's

32:24

it's just different and I think

32:26

that likes you know accusations of

32:28

be taken seriously. By.

32:31

Is a disrupt battle the best way to

32:33

do it in the way the country did

32:35

it like is actually helping our know. I

32:37

also know that we don't know enough about

32:39

what was the last against Drake to say

32:41

for sure what happened This I want us

32:43

to talk about. How the speed

32:45

of this all has changed? how we

32:47

can even look at these battles. On

32:49

the one hand, it was really cool to

32:51

see all these tracks be released at

32:53

rapid fire or multiplatform and see folks

32:55

react to them at all kinds of

32:57

ways and of a part of the internet.

33:00

but another symptom of our current into

33:02

that era was that they were a

33:04

major questions about what in his tracks was

33:06

true or not or a i are

33:08

not. that. that seems like a new

33:10

development that wasn't a half the constantly

33:12

worry about when it comes to music and.

33:14

More, I'm a little dismayed by that like

33:16

a wanna have to question constantly what is

33:19

to were not are ya this me by

33:21

this like I. I mean it

33:23

was interesting. The sons were coming out so

33:25

quickly I couldn't necessarily listen to. all of

33:27

them were at once and at one point

33:29

I saw like a tick tock with a

33:32

screenshot of what looked like lyrics from one

33:34

of the songs you know on Genius I

33:36

know the format whatever of and those were

33:38

fake lyrics like when I went i look

33:40

it up I was like oh wow and

33:42

I just I don't know if I've ever

33:44

seen something like that as Wilde, but it

33:47

seems like this is just the new normal.

33:49

So. I think we're seeing the beginning of a

33:51

dystopia reality at the end of the day. Them

33:53

know while I'm like oh that's kind of gross

33:55

that some a either have popped up in other

33:58

as a world in which these are the. Could

34:00

be using a I the future. It's because

34:02

they have so much you know music out

34:04

there. trait has so much in the world

34:06

are they. I can create songs that his

34:08

style that sounds pretty identical to have been

34:11

so you know if it came to light

34:13

that he had been using it to give

34:15

himself on upper hand I wouldn't be surprised.

34:17

But it brings up a bigger ethical question

34:19

of like our battles just about what would

34:21

you create soul the Or T used You

34:23

know the tool that your disposal and I

34:26

don't know yet what and you know we're

34:28

talking about how this beasts probably got violent.

34:30

Just this morning, how is that

34:32

complicated by sake A I lyrics

34:34

if the stakes are so high.

34:37

And. Eat Out Does potential say music?

34:39

Fake lyrics make it even more

34:41

volatile and dangerous. Will see I

34:44

It's interesting. It feels like you

34:46

know from a certain lens people

34:48

would say Trump introduced. A

34:51

certain type of fake news? mis information?

34:53

guess who? media But I think in

34:55

retrospect, we can see it so clearly.

34:57

He was riding a wave. Of

35:00

that is why it's manifesting everywhere, right?

35:03

Yeah, Dykes. Last year since the we

35:05

haven't done this yet. Ah, I've heard

35:07

all of these tracks. like Eating Times.

35:09

I need to know your review of

35:11

it. Be like the songs the like

35:14

The Wrapping Who Won musically. For

35:16

me I would say if we we

35:18

take a step back and let go

35:20

of all this other stuff that's happening

35:22

in real time, Kendrick for me is

35:24

clearly winning and from the artistry you

35:26

know just musicality. It was Streams, his

35:28

is starting fire. all of them been.

35:30

Drake is right now so it's a

35:32

contract fight, but about you I think

35:35

it's Kendrick without question. I think you

35:37

for yet in particular is a songs

35:39

that people will be looking back to

35:41

like for decades. It's incredible and I

35:43

think you know we could ask listeners

35:45

to like right Five qualities. That you

35:47

think you know helped define a great

35:49

rap song and without. For since seat

35:51

he succeeds you know not just a

35:53

plus on all of them, a plus

35:56

extra credit it's incredible. And then meanwhile

35:58

my issue with Drake is. Wrap

36:00

flow be on everything else. it's so

36:02

still he doesn't. It's just like that

36:04

allowed to say raids on him his

36:07

battle. he sounded tired and defeated and

36:09

I will say the Kindred song just

36:11

like us as a box isn't the

36:14

orbs already? Oh he got me. move

36:16

It's Ob have a hurry it's oh

36:18

be higher on that know we gotta

36:20

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close with another Galliano gown which was made the

39:28

year she was born. To. Split that and

39:31

while that's crazy isn't it Law Roads

39:33

knows what he's doing. Deaths in Oregon,

39:35

a stay at home and that see

39:38

was a kosher alongside people are bad

39:40

money for also looks incredible immigrants for

39:42

hims worth who didn't even try. Me:

39:46

Acetylene our seems worth that. Know

39:48

where I'll be okay. You. Should

39:50

look it up because he just literally rolled out

39:52

of bed and such as a tsunami move a

39:54

beautiful body, such a soda but it's ugly. that

39:56

boundless service for of. A. By speaking

39:58

of beautiful by the you to jail over

40:01

the also a coach shared she's been having

40:03

really rocky time these past few weeks but

40:05

she looks amazing. However she looked like she

40:07

always that look at predictable Hey I like

40:10

this perps. So this years met gala theme

40:12

was that the Garden of Time which is

40:14

based off the story by Jg Ballard which

40:16

is a story that is about to rich

40:19

people living in a villain who have an

40:21

army on the horizon that is invading their

40:23

land and you know is gonna kill them

40:25

they're gonna die I'm so to stop the

40:28

army from invading them they surf. Pulling.

40:30

The leave the flowers to delay time

40:32

in till they ran of flowers to

40:34

pull from. You know they meet their

40:36

demise. Ah and this is on celebration

40:38

of the new exhibition Sleeping Beauty that

40:41

the Met with will open Friday and

40:43

you know we want. I want to

40:45

start there with you both sneering what

40:47

that stories about. So. That still a

40:49

bit on the nose or be seeing

40:51

the aristocracy a massive with an army

40:53

fitzroy around and way the passage of

40:56

time and our eventual demise step Anna

40:58

wintour. This you. Have my.

41:01

That's a good and I saw someone a

41:03

blue sky point this out there were like

41:05

listen you know of course this theme is

41:08

a lot of the moment but they were

41:10

like honestly the theme of every Met gala

41:12

has basically been the you know the Dams

41:14

of the Red Mask was always pretty. It's

41:17

yeah I wasn't. What is interesting just as

41:19

an aside about the Jg Ballard I'm short

41:21

story as it is an early example of

41:23

science fiction actually which is like an interesting

41:25

element to see come in. But yeah it's

41:28

just I mean I was saying. It's had

41:30

to zoc in Sam, ya know? I

41:32

love fashion. I love fashion fashion but

41:34

really in some ways brought me to

41:37

writing because I wanted to like write

41:39

poems. That's that like these beautiful Alexander

41:41

Mcqueen downs was I will talk about

41:43

minute segments but. It was hard

41:45

to care. I like look isn't a on was

41:48

like this is beautiful but I yeah okay and

41:50

I see or truth. Every. Year everyone's

41:52

like this is the theme for the

41:54

my gala but in my mind is

41:56

always camp. There was one day with

41:58

any new tab and I'm like. The camp which

42:00

was a fine year could Lady Gaga I

42:03

gave us a performance piece. they are actually

42:05

iconic sputtered your plate. This is a celebration

42:07

of the Costume Institute for their in their

42:10

mouth of potassium in which means camp every

42:12

time. However, this year was an interesting it's

42:14

him that some subtle camp was something for

42:16

the landed thought. Well on. you know something

42:19

that is a trend that really emerged

42:21

during the gala was the return of naked

42:23

dresses in a very Marlene Dietrich a decades

42:25

ago address that makes it that you're wearing

42:28

nothing of lot of people were in. Flesh

42:30

tones, Things that make you look like

42:32

you're returning to the beginning of realize

42:34

your birthday suit. which is I just

42:36

nudity and just thinking of that no

42:38

one can top. Kim. Kardashians wet

42:40

dress which I think with mugler was

42:42

an Orion. Years ago there was our

42:45

pretty that like the able to just

42:47

an iconic any who Yeah The one

42:49

thing that I would say is even

42:51

of with i'm a bit apathetic. I

42:54

think this year's theme was sensible enough

42:56

is like flowers a garden time just

42:58

do something with it that I think

43:00

it did give enough of these celebrities

43:03

and their teams enough to go on.

43:05

Were in the past usually the conferences

43:07

and is a it becomes like this.

43:09

Debate over like who matter theme or not

43:11

and this year it was like it's it's

43:14

of that is funny over the top theme

43:16

and we got over the top looked imagine

43:18

okay that's such a good point because the

43:20

shirt is the for sure many years where

43:22

I nothing lot of coverage of people didn't

43:24

know the theme and is you have people

43:26

show up your like are you at the

43:28

right parties less with everyone was pretty consistent.

43:30

they're just all it. Thus I saw some

43:32

and we have looked like a bad production

43:34

of a mid summer's night on that one

43:36

wasn't wearing some young worth a very ah

43:38

yes now so with that. What for you

43:41

guys? What were some of your favorite

43:43

books were things that are like not

43:45

someone I say. I expected her to

43:47

get more loves in the wrap up.

43:49

Some best dressed I always think see

43:51

as an underrated celebrity musician actress. I

43:53

think she should have gotten an Oscar

43:55

nominees and by now for her film

43:58

work around a cooler. He

44:00

looked good. She looked so good.

44:02

Even her estranged husband, a man's

44:04

from Bert he posted in said

44:06

you eight He was this unread.

44:08

Seriously, is are you a girl?

44:10

It was this a red number

44:13

with a lot of lag. A.

44:15

Bright yellow blog of do her face is

44:18

this fears see looks so good either trip

44:20

soon as associate cool as a see as

44:22

cool as us and also I think I

44:24

know they are a strange but I remember

44:26

when see let people know they were breaking

44:29

apart and it's seem very much like they

44:31

were still. You. Know with each other

44:33

well so I like that's so whitsunday

44:35

what I will say. I thought it

44:37

was really beautiful. The original down by

44:40

to do down that that distress was

44:42

alluding to was very much like us

44:44

or female take on the dod Baucus

44:46

the goddess not of wine and so

44:48

this kind of carry through. The Pat

44:50

Mcgrath maker was just so cool and

44:53

I felt like it was is it

44:55

felt like this is what we would

44:57

get his arms and day out was

44:59

a haute couture runway model and week

45:01

we we. See the red carpet looks

45:03

but we haven't take that that level

45:06

and I I thought that was really

45:08

beautiful. I love that I want to

45:10

follow up on town and Taylor just

45:12

to acknowledge those made address. It was

45:15

a velvet rose up leak down from

45:17

the archives of The Blonde's. Well.

45:20

My Ss and man the whole thing

45:22

as red velvet he been long

45:24

flowing but the these velvet roses all

45:27

over the dress other schools really spectacular.

45:29

That's me because the blonde's as

45:31

a designer that has a lot of

45:33

a queer histories an apartment collaborates with

45:36

drag queen so that us love lasagna.

45:38

eyes up us so I love the

45:40

people you picked. but my favorite that

45:43

you did mention was that the singer

45:45

tyler did you see where address a

45:47

little islands or airport. Nail through

45:50

had slaves were there was

45:52

a dad. Is this money than

45:54

just you Know what it is. This is it. She

45:57

says she's suing, She decided you know we're going to

45:59

do guard of. I'm I'm in Aladdin

46:01

close eye on it. So it made a

46:03

say and and suppose I thought ninety Six

46:05

when I see a big deal with when

46:08

she's wearing see and his fans of Sands

46:10

of Time on on well as the I've

46:12

created it and it was is really beautiful

46:14

and like had texture and a hot appeal

46:17

these she couldn't walk in it's using carried

46:19

argue that everyone successor to the room and

46:21

sauce I love they had two weeks they

46:23

had to carry her and she's very last

46:26

minute to carry her up the stairs impose

46:28

harm and then later in the evening. There's

46:30

a video footage of of the designer actually

46:32

cutting her out of the drug. Wow, It's

46:35

so ironic this aware of the sand dress

46:37

when her biggest hit is cold water. Ryan

46:39

like. A

46:42

vampire I model. you're always the

46:44

Wonder Girl owner we the avatar

46:46

status. Of specific,

46:48

okay, this is what, because last time I

46:50

saw it, but like a little small thumbnail

46:53

at in zoom in, I didn't see the

46:55

sand. As. Great as the

46:57

kind of is it on. I for

46:59

second is really quickly I mentioned Alexander

47:01

Mcqueen, Alanna Del Rey who I like

47:03

minded or a Music Lahore. That's why

47:05

I still needed it. Yaps you. I

47:07

did to see where a custom Alexander

47:09

Mcqueen gowns pay for her by the

47:11

new Korea director saw him a girl

47:14

He came in to replace Zeebo in

47:16

there are certain Yeah and it's It's

47:18

really frustrating because that's down as they

47:20

call it, a real imagining kind of

47:22

Mike Woodson day. And it's a real

47:24

imaginings of one of Alexander Mcqueen most

47:26

famous gowns. I'm it's from the Fall

47:28

two thousand and Six collection. It was

47:30

a bridal gowns where it was like

47:32

a bridal veil held up by Stags

47:34

Ford's very beautiful. You've probably seen this

47:36

image in this is look like the

47:39

Sea and Version and I just I

47:41

see I posted on Instagram Ah we

47:43

have fallen from taste it just like

47:45

it veered into costume and frankly just

47:47

made me really sad because Sarah Bird

47:49

my Dad just did such a beautiful

47:51

jobs of carrying on the legacy of

47:53

her direct mentor and then Sullenberger. I'm

47:55

just like dude. You're just giving us

47:57

derivatives, gab and bad derivatives. And even

47:59

like. They are that Spirea. Well

48:01

speaking of an iconic designer, someone that

48:03

popped up all over the runway was

48:06

John Galliano Muslim guy on are Now

48:08

other night or most Allah lot the

48:10

your is you don't see anything Galliano.

48:13

people were pulling. What's. Interesting

48:15

is that there's been a John Galliano

48:17

exhibition that's and has been helping to

48:19

rate for a few years but it

48:21

keeps getting delayed and in is now

48:23

if you know definitely delayed because some

48:25

Galliano forty years ago made lots of

48:28

new them with even arrested for anti

48:30

semitic remarks while he was working for

48:32

person to your he is disappear from

48:34

the fashion world but over the past

48:36

seventy six years assessor what has been

48:38

trying to get him to reemerge as

48:40

a winner again because he is so

48:42

talents it's however the anti semitism is

48:45

still. There and a lot of you

48:47

have a lot of feelings about us.

48:49

I had to bring that up because

48:51

the context in which the gala happening

48:53

in of we have what's happening in

48:55

Gaza right now we have the protests

48:57

happening here in the Us with students

48:59

literally getting arrested off the steps of

49:01

the Met yesterday while the gala was

49:03

there protesting for Palestine and gets know

49:05

when acknowledged that the gala but they

49:07

were really willing to acknowledge John Galliano

49:09

how do we feel about that this

49:11

my theory and of and same as

49:13

since me to started since we began.

49:15

To college cancel culture. Most people

49:17

who were cancelled aren't really cancelled,

49:19

they just get a paid vacation.

49:23

Like a lot of these guys, combat.

49:25

Bill Cosby Got out of prison. You

49:28

know, like only Harvey Weinstein is actually

49:30

locked up. So when I think of

49:32

like mean behaving badly whether be abuse,

49:35

anti semitism, whatever like there's this the

49:37

laundry list of men who go away

49:39

for a little bit and then come

49:41

back So I'm not surprised. His what

49:44

I would say you know and letter

49:46

from Birmingham Jail More Luther King Jr

49:48

warned people against hoping for a negative

49:50

peace us what he called it's am

49:53

I think a lot of people don't

49:55

actually want the world to improve. They

49:57

just. Want to be able to go on with the

49:59

party? They want a negative piece.

50:01

You know that Jg Ballard short

50:04

story is not about to people

50:06

who want peace. They just don't

50:08

want their lives to be interrupted.

50:10

And yeah, and I think that's

50:13

it. And listen, we're all implicated,

50:15

were all implicated. You know I'm

50:17

in different ways for different reasons.

50:19

But yeah, it's it's telling to

50:22

see like how desperate people are

50:24

to just have the party go

50:26

on. This is not surprising. I'm

50:28

thinking about that comedian. Same Gillis

50:30

years ago he was gonna be

50:33

on Snl and then we found

50:35

out though he and was make

50:37

an incredibly awful and offensive anti

50:39

Asian jokes among other things. Just

50:41

a few weeks ago he hosted

50:43

Snl. Take. The. Story

50:45

with these guys is they go away

50:47

for a bit and then they come

50:49

back some aspirin zab and it's you

50:51

know. And I guess my closing out

50:53

here is that the John Galliano. Arrival

50:55

on the Met Gala red carpet yesterday

50:57

is just another example of the energy

50:59

a lot of institutions will put a

51:01

tooth saving. Those that they see as

51:04

you know, they're all the people they

51:06

love and will not put that same

51:08

energy into those that they never see

51:10

as an equal. Adam Sandler really brilliant

51:12

mean that during the Yum. The. Actual

51:14

hoped it was at which was beautiful. I mean

51:16

Zoc and I in particular. We texted back and

51:18

forth like this is so beautiful but damn Gallianos

51:20

and someone pointed out like there's video footage of

51:22

you know and his office eat all of these

51:25

shows and as you pointed out, she's very much

51:27

when if is champions. She's actually smiling like delighted.

51:29

during the runway show. they were like she never

51:31

smiles and so it's kind of like. Depending.

51:34

On your proximity to through power the

51:36

actual gate keepers that rally actually determines

51:39

you know whether yeah by the back

51:41

to the party and all that know.

51:44

With. All these allegations against traits he's not

51:46

done yet either. I guarantee you will have

51:48

another hit single before it's all said and

51:50

done so his men will go away. Basement

51:52

or go away. Don't get me started, Well.

51:55

The final note here as Sick Talk was the major

51:57

sponsor last night in a bid to make should they.

52:00

Away as they might buy up for

52:02

our lives in the Us. As of

52:04

our reporting, they have countersuit the United

52:06

States. I'm in the wake of their

52:08

Met debut, so there's some some interesting

52:11

news. There is also quite ironic that

52:13

an institution like Vogue, which is the

52:15

pinnacle of fashion photography it's now needs

52:17

tip top of. The. Music app

52:19

to help get their message out. Legacy

52:21

Media needs a new players more than

52:23

they care to admit. He added

52:26

laser do balance with that. We're gonna

52:28

take a quick break. the don't go

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anywhere. It will be right back with

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53:57

something that's helping us keep our vibes right

53:59

and. This is certainly

54:01

a week that is called for

54:03

vibe assistance, vibe And even if

54:06

I defy the Princess Anne, Hi

54:08

Sin and Six Ounces at the

54:10

gates I'm Sam. Why don't you

54:12

get us started? Yet

54:15

you. Know we have talked

54:17

before on this show about

54:19

nebo babies and in general

54:21

I see think they're all

54:24

overrated but there's one. To.

54:26

I gotta say did the damn

54:28

thing I'm talking about Will Smith

54:30

I see just released a new

54:32

album called in Pathogen and I

54:34

have been blown away. This

54:36

album shows her vocal skills advancing

54:39

and some really amazing ways and

54:41

she's a lenient into some really

54:43

interesting musical genres. Some of this

54:45

album is tasked, some of it

54:47

as a jazz, some of it's

54:50

prog rock. She's working with the

54:52

likes of Down the Teeth and

54:54

St Vincent the best working guitarist

54:56

today like it's a musician's album

54:59

and says that just cause plane

55:01

tablet a musician sees holding her

55:03

own with the likes of Says

55:05

Vincent and. Giambattista. It's really good

55:07

and I love to see you know

55:10

someone who could have just been mad

55:12

about being called Nebo Babies? Say no,

55:14

I'm gonna just show you my own

55:16

talents. See has grown every album as

55:19

a musician and this on Hazrat the

55:21

top of her crass it's I Be

55:23

Good. You. Know when you really take

55:25

a moment and look back at inside the she's

55:28

young but if you look at her career she

55:30

started scary early on a whim. I air was

55:32

when she was nine years old and that's my

55:34

point. She has not find the false note. Fire.

55:37

And government she went there with ya didn't

55:39

nail it because she's been doing it every

55:41

times. salads or some way to minutes. Some

55:44

reason than an early up on she did

55:46

inspired by one of the characters from an

55:48

Adventure Time for those of us would would

55:50

be good at Yale. I'm a huge fan

55:52

of Hermes. Yeah, she's She's very tell ya.

55:54

Also listeners, not just the new album, check

55:57

out her tiny desk. Concert from Npr is

55:59

incredible and. Love how the presage he

56:01

has done about this album sees this

56:03

has been saying the right things. She

56:05

was asked about being called a Nebo

56:07

baby and see said quotes in security

56:09

has driven me. I aspire

56:12

fair where you go. Well our government.

56:15

Is giving very large nose because they're a

56:17

similar like I was born in the shadows

56:20

and really famous people but I'm going to

56:22

buy my own path even though that that

56:24

light as super bright janice Been was new

56:26

artists. As. Focus on the work arm.

56:29

Zoc! What about you? So. For

56:31

me I have been surprised by how

56:33

much I love the Challenger soundtrack at

56:35

an assistant of with I've been going

56:37

because I know Trent Reznor worked on

56:39

it and a high love his music.

56:42

It's been doing a lot of great

56:44

movie you sound as he would one

56:46

See You Oscars my favorite one of

56:48

his. He did the soundtrack for the

56:50

Social Network Diane I used to exercise

56:52

to that album is so good. but

56:55

you can exercise the Challengers because of

56:57

how I. Didn't think of going to like. I like the clips

56:59

the used. In the movies and I thought it would

57:01

just that would be a and then when you

57:03

play are you here just the clip the clip

57:05

that like they do the same as you listen

57:07

but then the other side of the album or

57:09

the full records with even know whether it's and

57:11

it's so good and it made me that's part

57:13

of his cooperation with this guide him Atticus Ross

57:15

is that has famous but they are the ones

57:17

that have worked on the Social Network for Yes

57:19

Other Foot for years and years and have won

57:21

a few Oscars by now. but it has sit

57:23

me down a rabbit hole of his pass work

57:26

as the frontman of Nine Inch Nails in that

57:28

system like a warm yo get really. Wanting to

57:30

the yeah my Psi ops yeah with

57:32

a good healer it's my says Sam.

57:34

It is the thirty year anniversary of

57:36

the downward spiral with my. The

57:39

No Matter How Close allies

57:41

out of the extended drum

57:44

solo of mine in snails

57:46

the Perfect drug. Takes

57:48

me out of my body as so that

57:51

and also are you gonna keep going deeper

57:53

Gene I was. We listened to the album

57:55

last night downward spiral and I got to

57:57

hurt as I love hearing they remember Johnny

57:59

Cash. The browser the for as I'd have

58:01

an eye on that outmuscled a crying while

58:04

eating pussy bow out of the French it

58:06

was a lot of the. Law

58:09

school anyway on low feel. Heard

58:11

rumors that Trent Reznor. Born.

58:13

To look at. Gov. Bill a

58:15

cigarette. My. And okay, this.

58:18

That Manson I wanna fuck you like an

58:21

animal like slip. Slip.

58:30

I would say that I wanted

58:32

on. A.

58:36

Smooth. God awful isn't I

58:38

got some vibes I wouldn't

58:40

mind. Trick reserved. second. Day

58:44

I have no idea. Read

58:46

here for a Saturday morning

58:48

as continues to Podium Center.

58:50

They. Say he was

58:52

about. This

58:55

pool must is from This book actually

58:57

won the Pulitzer Prize of Twenty Twenty

59:00

three. It's by Carl Philips, a wonderful

59:02

black queer poet. The book is since

59:04

the war. it is his like new

59:07

and selected poems which is always exciting

59:09

to get. yeah I just I think

59:11

this at this poem. Is cinder

59:13

but certainly political. and I will

59:15

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