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with last exhausted can't keep
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up ladies ladies ladies, they
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did was happening this week
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With last is suitably the
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word. Am a writer Oh
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everything we're talking about this
3:18
week I can keep up.
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Any who fled into am
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Sam Sanders. I'm saying Jones
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and I'm like Stafford and
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you're listening to Find Sex.
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Welcome to middle of the Whiplash
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on a side job and that
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am worried my neck brace. Oh
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okay so we of course of
3:44
we have to we have to.
3:46
How could we not talk about
3:49
the back and forth and back
3:51
and forth again? Between Kendrick Lamar
3:53
and Drake is taken over, the
3:55
internet is taken over our group
3:57
tax probably yours as well. So.
4:00
Blue Sky told me that they're like regular
4:02
weatherman other local station Like a six year
4:04
old guy was talking about it like. Us
4:08
up with have one of the enormous as
4:10
is truly permeated culture. My favorite part is
4:12
like one of the distracts from Kindred. It
4:14
had been out for a few hours and
4:16
then I saw videos of people bop into
4:18
it in the clubs in the yes, oh
4:20
yeah there are outs and the sea lions.
4:23
I have my windows open, the weather was
4:25
nice and like I could ever people's cars
4:27
people start. I live on a floor by
4:29
the way. So while they were blasting
4:31
as area since we're gonna get into
4:33
all of it this is so much
4:35
it is up. There was a a
4:37
rich just like rest assured us as
4:39
a little to lists and then we
4:42
are of course are also going to
4:44
talk about the Met gala sense of
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course that's happening in the middle of
4:48
everything else why not sore put on
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ago but before we get into all
4:52
of that the second ladies how ya
4:54
feelin as that you gotta get low
4:56
smirk on your face how you doin
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I'm I'm laughing because as I am
5:00
would have built my coffee or myself
5:02
I'll fly seizure or something like moving
5:04
too fast. today's fumbling, flustered I move
5:07
and I just think I'm feeling swastikas
5:09
have so much going on in the
5:11
world and I'm also setting a plane
5:13
tomorrow to go to New York for
5:15
some work self with you guys are.
5:18
however over the weekend i'll lot of i
5:20
my hands because since last week i thought
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stomach virus which has been a long time
5:25
so they have lemon and let me tell
5:27
you i was out as a to my
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apple. Watch which ever as I've been tracking
5:31
my steps I got five hundred steps on
5:33
like sat out which is less of an
5:36
abnormal bath. I just remember that might be
5:38
as I guess and I thought I think
5:40
this is the most depressing thing of the
5:42
world's so I was really just like comatose.
5:44
I'm a house or most of the weekend
5:46
but I did. It's catch up on a
5:48
lot of bad T V and judging us
5:50
are talking about a rap beef. I want
5:52
to bring up obese that is going viral
5:54
and tic toc and now on Netflix that
5:56
I just need to see if our listeners
5:58
are watching which is the. Selling the O
6:00
C Season Three Cats are you are watching
6:02
the son of the Data to hold on.
6:05
Hold on hold a whole. That is it
6:07
in the selling Sunset Cinematic Universe and selling
6:09
says that cinematic universe and but they are
6:11
mess seem in something as emerging and I'm
6:13
seeing a lot of people watch the season
6:15
or series for some because of this but
6:17
there is a queen on there. Who.
6:19
Is openly queer he disappears and first
6:22
two seasons the season three comes back
6:24
with vengeance because he accuses to the
6:26
very hot streak. Castmates have been a
6:28
little queer curious are leading him on
6:31
a middle man. To. Man
6:33
and thing left my babies. One of
6:35
them propositions him it with his wife
6:37
when night at dinner so that he
6:40
spills his aides is. Engulfed
6:42
the whole season and these men are fighting
6:44
for their lives. Is that what is interesting
6:46
for me and we can you know talk
6:48
for a deeper with you guys? See it
6:50
or other people see it's is. It's me.
6:53
It's really a good study of masculinity right
6:55
now In America and South. When you push
6:57
against masculine, they are irrationally called out for
6:59
not being normative or like others. How you
7:01
admins are fighting for your lives and he's
7:03
really aggressive kind analyze hindered my race. kind
7:05
of like hundred and drag. so I was.
7:07
I was watching these in a mostly like
7:09
why guys fighting with each other about like
7:12
bro. I did say three some
7:14
I would never have sex with.
7:16
Ah desire up. Over
7:18
six this feels like tinder act and drink
7:21
in some way Before though there was one
7:23
moment where he shows that the receives the
7:25
queer person in is like you said I
7:27
had nice legs and he does know I
7:29
did. You could look at my instagram and
7:32
he pulls up on Instagram the Yemenis as
7:34
vim legs he got why said them later
7:36
because you're like there's huge you been working
7:38
out what's the matter loud but I'm like
7:40
way of going on. It's just
7:42
so our homo eroticism of male relationships
7:45
that he don't i could discuss number
7:47
of queer person enters it's kind of
7:49
brings to light in there is an
7:51
anxiety and it's in a fear that
7:54
erupts around him into another rich text
7:56
to really dive site me So much
7:58
yeah I I do. The like:
8:00
This is going to come out
8:02
with a lot of Kendrick and
8:05
Drake. but to set that aside,
8:07
I do feel like so much
8:09
of traditional masculinity is Homer so
8:11
so def not homosexuals so what
8:13
you often see his There's this
8:15
understanding of do it. But.
8:17
Don't say it to him so you're
8:20
like performing in a way where it's
8:22
like others elders. I mean so problem
8:24
in someone's legs but also complement someone's
8:26
let's but out but but it that's
8:29
fine until someone like basically says like
8:31
here's the headlines, what's going on here
8:33
to I'm just sitting here google Amy's
8:35
Men are very pretty bare. Very pretty,
8:38
Very pretty. You know, look at it
8:40
if you're interested. It's good drama. It's
8:42
low stakes I'm like but the Kendra
8:44
contract is giving us lately. Somehow
8:48
you do. You. Know I
8:50
talked with the all last week
8:52
about my travel wheat from hell
8:54
but I made it and my
8:56
big thing this week is just
8:59
like a had this like moment
9:01
yesterday where I had to say
9:03
to myself. You. Are you know
9:05
what to do? You already know what to
9:07
do. I had been sleeping really badly the
9:09
last week as I was stressed the but
9:11
others worked travel and this and this and
9:13
that's some. Tell him my therapist all about
9:15
it yesterday while walking the dogs and he
9:17
cites or sam. You. Saying the
9:19
not sleeping, do you want to revisit
9:22
our conversation about sleep etiquette. And
9:24
I was like i guess girl is the bottom
9:26
line of a long and short as they. Put.
9:29
Your phone down before you go to bed. Put.
9:31
It in the other room. This is using
9:33
the problems and so I did it last
9:35
night. Kept the phone out of my
9:37
room and I slept like a baby. And
9:40
it was just like Sam, you knew this.
9:42
This has been the answer for a long
9:44
time. You know what to do, Do what
9:46
you know to do, you know? and so
9:48
lights giddiness. Reminder that a thing that can
9:51
be really stressful for you are hard for
9:53
you. Oftentimes the answer is right there. You
9:55
know what to do just for can do
9:57
it. Literally put him. I found out last
9:59
night. A change. Is
10:02
so funny because as you said that I realized
10:04
again kind of like the things we do as
10:06
opposed to like what we say and acknowledge when
10:08
I come into my office to right i never
10:10
bring my phone my some stays in the kitchen.
10:14
But I always take my phone is when
10:16
I'm going to bed at that of lights
10:18
up in looking to two thousand forty five
10:20
minutes or so. Yeah and it is rouse
10:23
you up because before you not like I
10:25
will end up looking to Instagram real the
10:27
tic tacs then I want to google something
10:29
then I'm in the depths of Wikipedia for.
10:31
Forty five minutes. The.
10:34
Answer is simple my friends with the phone
10:36
down. While. I love this. My sister
10:38
does this season it for years and she swears
10:40
by putting her phone in the other room. but
10:42
I'd never do it because that's how I wake
10:44
up in the mornings is also like have my
10:46
alarm, How do you wake up without a phone
10:48
in the room? Is it just in the other
10:50
side? The how he does here as in the
10:52
distant. I need to pay Jonathan for to session
10:54
because I'm just telling our he told me it's
10:56
ah he was like Sam. If
10:59
you worried about. Not. Weaken up.
11:01
With. The phone and the other room. What? You
11:03
can do is buy an alarm clock
11:05
that is oh wow! I like. A
11:09
law that, ah, any of that,
11:11
my vibe. Okay, Sleeping
11:13
Beauty, I love that. About
11:16
they get operator of was a
11:18
good how are you today So
11:20
the vibes are Muslim. you know
11:22
we've been the lesser we talking
11:24
about. You know the protests on
11:27
college campuses? Of course it's still
11:29
going on and you know I
11:31
think generally speaking people are at
11:33
best disappointed by house so many
11:35
not all but many universities have
11:37
just behaves and now we have
11:40
commencement going on and just as
11:42
a reminder the. Graduating Class of
11:44
Twenty Twenty Fourth. These college students were
11:46
seniors during the pandemic and Twenty Twenty
11:48
So so this means that these are
11:50
students who probably didn't get to go
11:53
to prom because I would have been
11:55
spring of twenty twenties and they certainly
11:57
didn't get to have like, are you
11:59
know that. The snow graduation and so
12:01
we're they are four years later, an
12:03
obscure in Columbus where I live, just
12:05
just very surreal and under the i
12:07
don't have to read from some reporting
12:10
because like what? Okay, During.
12:12
The commencement ceremony. A member
12:14
of a students family sell
12:17
some the stamps and doubt.
12:19
It. Very. High up
12:21
we don't have a lot of information
12:23
but. I mean that is.
12:25
You know what from matic would have been
12:28
for this family was with this person's everyone
12:30
saw at like Students are like you know,
12:32
visibly upset freaking out the university doesn't acknowledge
12:34
it. Just goes on with
12:36
the ceremony Now look. I
12:39
don't know how I would have handled
12:41
it, but fortunately I'm not a university
12:43
leader of So light. So what happened
12:45
during the graduation Third happened during the
12:47
graduation ceremony. Students were freaking out. Boat
12:49
weight. Because of course
12:52
in this air, this dystopic error, everything
12:54
gets even crazier. The commencement speaker this
12:56
year. his name is Chris Pan or
12:58
he graduated from a was You and
13:00
Ninety Nine I. He just seems like
13:03
a random tech guys were that Facebook
13:05
Mackenzie. He posted about this on linked
13:07
and before his speech, but during. His
13:09
actual species that I got some
13:11
help from a I'd to write
13:14
this material and he's like the
13:16
I stands worth. I was got
13:18
intelligence or I allow know why
13:20
it's hours Bothered to advocate for
13:23
bitcoin. M
13:25
I got booed like people booing and in
13:27
a one point I thought he was thinking
13:29
i had to see video footage of my
13:31
friends are trolling me Why? just feels like
13:33
a perfect metaphor for how some real of
13:36
with like what's going on what are you
13:38
know is so. In like it's not
13:40
just surreal is dystopian. So yeah I live
13:42
not too far from U S C and
13:44
some mornings when I'm running I will jog
13:47
through campus. As you know U S C
13:49
along with Colombian other schools have totally cancel
13:51
graduate and I think us he is now
13:53
doing a party and apart for their kids.
13:56
were no real graduations but I was running
13:58
around us seats and I couldn't. It
14:00
in does. It's chains around Emmett
14:02
and like you know this was
14:04
happening. but to see it feels
14:06
like oh my God. I. Was
14:09
driving to your house not that long ago
14:11
Sam yeah and I pass by U S
14:13
C and of the oh Usa I was
14:15
forget it's right here at zero for the
14:17
campus and suddenly became less pretty because of
14:20
gates are skewed I've never seen and such
14:22
a force and it may say and and
14:24
it just felt like a compound that is
14:26
is yeah we're heard it just doesn't to
14:29
the used to just like blend with the
14:31
neighborhood exactly admire and for years U S
14:33
C had tried to become a better neighbor
14:35
to is black and brown neighborhood lawns and
14:38
everything seems. Sin to the community any who
14:40
as this is off if you're the yeah
14:42
I think I just like just to acknowledge
14:44
for listeners I think something that we've all
14:46
been in different ways reckoning with since twenty
14:48
twenty is the way and which really like
14:50
a couple of weeks into the pandemic. Frankly,
14:52
a lot of us were like oh so
14:54
we're just gonna. Work. Through
14:57
this like we're not gonna have. Okay
14:59
and that's that feeling that cognitive dissonance
15:01
I think has lived with us and
15:03
actually kind of feel like maybe now
15:05
for years later you know America in
15:07
and so many aspects of culture try
15:09
to keeps adding like everything's fine and
15:12
it's becoming unavoidable. My pertains on the
15:14
gates now you know, so that same
15:16
their own the gates hard to overlook,
15:18
baths and mom and you know to
15:20
that point we also just wanted to
15:22
do a quick update on what's going
15:25
on in Gaza. I'm as of
15:27
are recording time. This is Tuesday's
15:29
twelve thirty Pm Eastern that we
15:31
are having this conversation. The Washington
15:34
Post had this to say. The
15:36
Israel Defense Forces said on Tuesday
15:38
that it took control of the
15:40
gods inside of the Rafah crossing
15:42
with Egypt overnight marking it's first
15:45
ground in person into the southern
15:47
thousand city. While Abu Omar, a
15:49
Gaza border officials said travel and
15:51
the flow with Aids into the
15:53
Strip quote stopped completely as a
15:56
result. Is Real said it
15:58
would send mediators to Egypt to negotiate
16:00
a C fire and hostage. Really still
16:02
renewing hopes for pause and fighting. Even.
16:05
As it pressed on with Us
16:07
military operation in to Rasa and
16:09
just a reminder of about one
16:12
million people have been living as
16:14
refugees in Rafah sense basically October.
16:17
That's. The latest and eyelids Elsinore I heard
16:19
on Npr think This morning Cindy Mccain who
16:21
works at the You and now oversees the
16:24
food programs was stating that you know they
16:26
have about enough food for million people sitting
16:28
at the gates from the you add just
16:31
sitting there so just in a kitchen him
16:33
in a can't get an answer. Now this
16:35
in a this ground incursion will only make
16:37
that even more impossible. That suit is literally
16:40
no feet away from the seaports. A so
16:42
awful and we mad at her kids for
16:44
protesting goof. Off right. Well.
16:47
Ladies. Before he gets the episode.
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sal we jump into Today's episode of
17:19
was do. Or
17:29
on our on our listeners it's
17:31
time we are they gonna have
17:33
to discuss in breakdown fully this
17:35
rat beast between Qinetiq Lamar, Ann
17:37
Arbor, he Drake dream of the
17:39
grassy same you know This weekend
17:42
I was so excited because the
17:44
stories and really fun and it's
17:46
like other just trading insults. But
17:48
latest update around two am Tuesday
17:50
morning there was a shooting outside
17:52
of Breaks House in Canada. One
17:55
man was injured but it was
17:57
nods rate. We do not. Know
17:59
for sure. Yeah, if the rat
18:01
be that anything to do with it,
18:03
but we have to acknowledge violence has
18:05
ensured. That chats. Ah, so that
18:08
puts hell of a somber note on
18:10
the whole thing. like talk about good
18:12
movie a coincidence by allows. Yeah, yeah.
18:14
just to give context, Drake lives and
18:17
like the Bellaire of Toronto, there are
18:19
shootings in this part of to Work
18:21
For Me category as less shootings then
18:23
America Blame that goes up there. I
18:25
mean. For their to
18:27
be a shooting. On. His property,
18:29
the cell crime scene in the
18:31
wake of this piece. Feel like,
18:34
you know, Redlands? Yeah, yeah. so
18:36
we're gonna talk about all of
18:38
this and how this rap battle
18:40
seems to have taken place at
18:42
a faster pace than anything I've
18:44
ever seen. The music before works
18:46
first. I'm. Honest not
18:48
explain the battle up and to.
18:50
Now for our listeners side salad
18:52
or would it be able do
18:55
it in two men? Yes I
18:57
do. I was time and it
18:59
out. Have you practiced? Have you
19:01
buy our girl Avineri? Maccabi voters
19:03
were gonna see us and tell
19:05
start o'clock I'm not gonna go
19:07
through dates I'm not gonna miss
19:10
and song titles. I'm just gonna
19:12
tell ya who said. What?
19:14
And. Or bring out out okay. I'd here
19:16
we have. Three. Two.
19:19
One in Two Thousand Twenty three,
19:21
Drake and J Cole released the
19:23
track claiming that the two of
19:26
them and Kendrick are the best.
19:28
Three rappers outs physically bath on
19:30
another track and he says is
19:32
no Top three anything, it's just
19:34
him. After that J Cole releases
19:36
his own distracts says Pinpricks work
19:38
is made. Within a few days
19:40
later he apologizes on a concert
19:42
stage to Kendrick in front of
19:44
his own fans, then Drake for
19:46
that a distract making fun of
19:48
Kendrick. For making pop songs with
19:51
Taylor Swift and Maroon Five. but
19:53
because Rick Ross was mentioned in
19:55
that song see release the track
19:57
claiming that Drake got a Bbl.
20:00
After. That another distract from Drakes. The
20:02
most of us couldn't hear it because
20:04
that was taken off line because Drake
20:06
used an ai to possible ways on
20:08
the track without permission. Or
20:11
else phase one part to sit.
20:13
it's really fast and wilde. Next.
20:16
Over the span of just a
20:18
few days, Drake intend to release
20:20
dueling distract on multiple platforms sometimes
20:22
on the same day it was
20:24
wild Since records rape a bad
20:26
parent says his abs are fake
20:28
alludes to Olympic use Drake claims
20:30
concerts child really isn't his and
20:32
says the kids with beats his
20:34
wife Kids within dedicates a verse
20:36
tude race own son says he
20:38
sorry Drake is that kid's father
20:41
and this as Drake have more
20:43
kids that he's hiding also contributes
20:45
uses Drake. Have been a pedophile
20:47
because of that home Millie Bobby
20:49
Brown stuff in the midst of
20:51
all of this producer metro booming
20:53
release as a free does beat
20:56
called Bbl Drizzle. And. He
20:58
urges people to make wraps
21:00
dissing Drake over the beats.
21:02
Nothing yet. After. This Drake
21:04
claims that tinder it is only this
21:06
concerned with pedophile yes, because he was
21:08
molested as a child. Centred has wrapped
21:11
before about legacies of abuse in his
21:13
own family. Now keep in mind all
21:15
of this is taking place at a
21:17
pace never before seen and wraps if
21:19
you add it all up. There are
21:21
a total of ten distracts released in
21:24
the span of about three weeks, counting
21:26
all parties. Several tracked him up on
21:28
the same day with an hours of
21:30
each other's There were and celery, actors
21:32
and many beasts. Questions. About what is
21:34
to are fake and all of it's.
21:37
even a cameo from Taylor's This Producer
21:39
Death and and Asks. It is a
21:41
new raw beef era with that vibe.
21:43
Sec listeners you are all caught up
21:45
sent you Please. About
21:48
other round of applause. Sam
21:51
I have watched six Sox that are flying the
21:53
length of what you just said. so grab the
21:55
seven himself. He but is. That
21:58
was so houses. You know
22:00
I've been in this sense. euphoria, euphoria.
22:03
Got my yes, oh yes oh yes.
22:05
As you both know and listeners probably
22:07
won't be Smith I'd There's so many
22:09
aspects of straight closer but especially straight
22:11
male culture than I'm like it's I
22:13
am so grateful it's not my business.
22:15
But yeah for you. Suddenly it was
22:17
my Billie did something wrong with you
22:19
know which I would shrink city and
22:21
of Poetry like when Tinder It. Really
22:24
gets to it. You reminded that this
22:26
man won a pulitzer for his rap
22:28
or reason he the workmen know I
22:30
want to get into the beef and
22:32
all that. but we cannot start this
22:34
conversation without first addressing that obese that
22:36
felt very fun over the weekend all
22:38
of a sudden did not because of
22:40
that violence. I mentioned a Drakes house
22:42
how we all taken this. You.
22:44
Know I literally for the last summer they as a
22:46
say in this is the best How to beat the
22:48
no one gets hurt at him at See That anymore.
22:51
Yeah I know it's heels that have returned to the
22:53
eighties or nineties where people. Really? Got hurt
22:55
him Some people died very publicly you know
22:57
to pass a d others and this is
22:59
my fear. Personally things have been elevating a
23:02
lot like less. Let us not forget major
23:04
selling was shot in the foot in the
23:06
Up men and it's industry during the winter
23:09
it's really include Aid sonos I wanna try
23:11
Exactly says she was I So this this
23:13
morning waking up to my own mother and
23:15
Toronto taxing about among others per game is
23:18
there was a shootings a blood which is
23:20
very terrifying. The Republic oh my god whose
23:22
the shock of ahead at like five amps.
23:25
But it felt like what we grew up
23:27
with as kids when you dots rap battles
23:29
and see what happened in the wake of
23:31
those and it made me sad. I was
23:33
like oh not again. Yeah,
23:35
I mean it's a try not to
23:37
be so precious about it because you
23:39
know in many ways I think of
23:41
hip hop as a confrontational art form.
23:43
Whether it was guess you know, D
23:46
J's or In Sees literally standing in
23:48
front of each other. free styling It
23:50
was always. It was designed to be
23:52
a back and forth before it became
23:54
like now we're doing albums and singles
23:56
and so it is to use one
23:59
of contracts. Favorite terms:
24:01
part of the Dna A new
24:03
forms. But yeah, I mean, you
24:05
know a friend of mine, Marcus
24:07
Morris said so unsightly over the
24:09
weekend. He's like if they were
24:11
just like watching black manhood fight
24:13
itself back and forth over these
24:15
distract. So you know we know
24:17
men whose relationship to violence and
24:20
I'm. Maybe. It's inevitable that's
24:22
really demir. Yes, That
24:24
you mentioned something quite in sustain about
24:26
this hobbies you said did this rat
24:29
these is giving you bravo real since
24:31
his wives energy. I love that idea.
24:33
Explain it. Ah it does it feel
24:35
like something that Andy Cohen said the
24:38
Japan as are Mario third land the
24:40
wrong again so you yesterday he should
24:42
not but I'm you know for me
24:45
it feels like the real Housewives of
24:47
a few levels in a wonder is
24:49
the an obsession with place? Nope. Housewives
24:52
are defined by the. Places much that
24:54
I'm from and these places see this place.
24:56
like the black franchises like Atlanta and Potomac.
24:58
there are some ethic fight surrounds. who is
25:01
actually from their wix? You run the place
25:03
where she can't speak for that place, who's
25:05
authentically from that place whose money is real
25:07
is another thing that comes up a lot
25:10
on Real Housewives. And between these guys specifically
25:12
the draped them Rick Ross which would make
25:14
it into bus all these rappers are obsessed
25:16
with money. Who actually has a to actually
25:19
can spend this you know with an awesome
25:21
bianna adjustments and recross. But there's these. The
25:23
universe that and built up around these men
25:26
and the connections between them and that feels
25:28
very real Housewives where each character's defined by
25:30
their the relation to war against another character
25:32
in their communities and how that Tinson pushes
25:35
them all against each other. how they resolve
25:37
it said. let me just like a good
25:39
example of that's like not like us That
25:41
verse were Kendrick literally goes through like seemingly
25:44
every rapper and hip hop who was vouched
25:46
for or against rate of some what and
25:48
that is the thing that feels very housewife.
25:51
be intimate. you know there was an era.
25:53
When a lot of the biggest rappers
25:55
when they were issuing disses the bitterness
25:57
settle. He's at the ribs in a
25:59
lot. It's to get through they were
26:01
talking about. Everything about this rap battle
26:04
has been incredibly explicit. Naming.
26:06
Names responded to every bar
26:08
right away. Every word mirrors
26:11
response. Every insult merits debate
26:13
and is level. Of
26:15
back and forth feels quite house was to me.
26:18
Down. And significantly, I mean you
26:20
know, I think Meghan Be stallions distract
26:22
his wits. You know we said at
26:24
the time. I don't think this song
26:27
is about Nicky. I think this song
26:29
is about men like Drake and other
26:31
men in the industry. Yeah, that sounds
26:33
like an example of a more traditional
26:35
de sac to your family of subtlety.
26:37
He knows his biggest mad at me
26:40
they need to be bad at Mit
26:42
Megan's Law soon as they all didn't
26:44
say was wearing trading Kendrick My kids
26:46
are like I'm talking to your son
26:48
right now. Adonis. Let's go get
26:50
the did you say sondra on the
26:53
truck with the mother. It was a
26:55
wild. You know when we
26:57
talk about how this feels very
26:59
housewife in. I'm thinking back to
27:02
scanned of all of which was
27:04
part of that. It's Cinematic Universe
27:06
and that was a scandal. Were
27:08
super fans, were looking for every
27:10
clue they had looking for secret
27:13
messages. This battlefield very much like
27:15
that as well. People are finding
27:17
hidden meanings in song titles in
27:19
single covers. I call it Taylor
27:21
Swift numerology. I feel like says
27:23
her fans made this a thing.
27:26
Where everything they do with a secret message in
27:28
it's her job to figure it out. Still feels
27:30
like that Telus with Numerology Eats has been a
27:32
part of this rap battle in a way that
27:34
it hasn't been before. I don't know if I
27:37
liked it, but I find the quite insistent. Yeah.
27:39
I'm into your eyes on to talk
27:41
over the weekend. Swift is worth commenting
27:44
on exact they were like oh you
27:46
know what we're We're not very familiar
27:48
with all of this but we are
27:50
able to on Widow has resisted says
27:52
yeah, it's it's a language I'm yeah.
27:55
I think technology media, the way we
27:57
communicate, the way pop culture exist in
27:59
this. Opium Landscapes. I didn't
28:01
just creates speed and intensity. And
28:03
and one of the things with
28:06
that kind of Conspiracy Theorists level
28:08
of intensity is you know everything's
28:10
going on that we've talked about
28:12
throughout this episode. And then here
28:15
comes this be and it's delicious.
28:17
and I think it is satisfying
28:19
to be able to embrace what
28:22
I'm calling the full immersion Other,
28:24
you know, the hyper fixation. I
28:26
mean it's is not unusual right
28:28
when people are going. Through really
28:30
difficult circumstances a by kind of
28:33
try to divert their attention to
28:35
something that feel safer and more
28:37
manageable. So you know dare I
28:39
say if if a drama was
28:41
Marks Students are is aimed at
28:43
these be super celebrities wants it
28:45
You know in this era of
28:47
always on media is not just
28:49
how many times you listen to
28:51
my song is how much time
28:53
to use. Been thinking about me
28:55
because that is going to predict
28:57
if you buy my Mertz. if
28:59
you. Go to my So if you
29:01
give me more money and so the
29:04
stars especially Taylor they know haven't a
29:06
bob is not enough. You need your
29:08
fans obsession. Death. And I
29:10
would say that there's something about the using
29:12
of fans obsession and pair social relationships you
29:14
as a way to maintain power and order
29:17
in the chaos that you will the events.
29:19
So if we look at how media changed
29:21
since the nineties or thing about these pass
29:23
a puppy in a when he thinks would
29:25
break in would cover them Him would go
29:27
on Mtv and talk about them or the
29:29
other channels and do these interviews with you
29:31
know Big Media Alex now number the youth
29:33
and beauty outlets and events in a Vice
29:35
President Kamala Harris Yes Big Meaty Alice the
29:37
youth in a Celebrity Interviews and I use
29:39
their own platform. Stats hold the conversation so
29:42
of course they're gonna use this to
29:44
be where the battle is wage. With
29:46
their music as well they're winning and
29:48
their monetizing. And speaking of Newark New
29:50
covered the best coverage of this whole
29:52
beasts Dc academics was do an Instagram
29:54
live streams as the tracks are dropping.
29:56
it was while to follow us I
29:58
say to give details. Academics credit. but
30:01
your I know, really? Good
30:03
yeah can I say one thing that does
30:05
fill relevance? One thing I think it's exciting
30:07
and I want us to point out of
30:09
drugs introduce is usually it's coded as feminine.
30:12
And it's not Swift's we go back
30:14
to the Beatles. Usually the media perception
30:16
of the obsessed San is that url
30:18
girlies seeing and girl and of several
30:21
resists music it's tried because they don't
30:23
they're not interested in Syria stuff's but
30:25
all of us know if you've had
30:27
the misfortune of having to listen to
30:29
a man out of our ports yes
30:31
my door statistics such and you're like
30:33
group no one oh my god sense
30:35
and of right hip hop. heads of
30:38
done this for a long time too.
30:40
So I also hope this kind of
30:42
broadens. Our understanding of that kind
30:44
of obsession. yeah we all can
30:46
be obsesses weekend not to have
30:48
this conversation and not discuss the
30:51
big allegations leveled against straight by
30:53
Kendrick Lamar. He alleged him have
30:55
been a pedophile and you thought
30:57
about in the group chat how
30:59
just the allegation itself. Ah highlights
31:02
the way the Me To has
31:04
yet to really hit hip hop.
31:06
Sayeed. Why? You
31:08
know I. I don't fully know.
31:10
What I will say is that
31:12
we had many years of allegations,
31:14
credible allegations against our Kelly. For
31:16
example, before the Harvey Weinstein reporting
31:18
brought us what we now think
31:20
of the Me To moment and
31:22
Twenty Seventeen I think zip up.
31:24
In the music industry, it's very
31:26
sadly compartmentalised those allegations. So like
31:28
Harvey one seen, it was like
31:30
sees a bad guy But also
31:32
he reminds us of other bad
31:34
guys throughout the industry when we
31:36
think about abuse, rape, culture, And violence
31:39
against women? That didn't happen in hip
31:41
hop. It was like it's Just or
31:43
Kelly. My hope. Is that
31:45
we're now at a tipping point? You know
31:47
when I think maybe we can look to
31:50
you know their investigations into did he for
31:52
example as like a sign that things are
31:54
changing? I think it's good. To.
31:56
Call out Violence Rape
31:59
Culture. The use it's good,
32:01
we need to sign light on
32:03
it. But I will say Centric
32:05
himself has collaborated with known abusers
32:07
like Kodak Blacks as recently as
32:09
his last album Sophia Either of
32:11
these guys are saints today that
32:13
well and there's a difference between
32:15
pursuing real allegations in the spirit
32:18
of me to to find justice
32:20
and calling the rapper you hate
32:22
a pedophile you know, like it's
32:24
it's just different and I think
32:26
that likes you know accusations of
32:28
be taken seriously. By.
32:31
Is a disrupt battle the best way to
32:33
do it in the way the country did
32:35
it like is actually helping our know. I
32:37
also know that we don't know enough about
32:39
what was the last against Drake to say
32:41
for sure what happened This I want us
32:43
to talk about. How the speed
32:45
of this all has changed? how we
32:47
can even look at these battles. On
32:49
the one hand, it was really cool to
32:51
see all these tracks be released at
32:53
rapid fire or multiplatform and see folks
32:55
react to them at all kinds of
32:57
ways and of a part of the internet.
33:00
but another symptom of our current into
33:02
that era was that they were a
33:04
major questions about what in his tracks was
33:06
true or not or a i are
33:08
not. that. that seems like a new
33:10
development that wasn't a half the constantly
33:12
worry about when it comes to music and.
33:14
More, I'm a little dismayed by that like
33:16
a wanna have to question constantly what is
33:19
to were not are ya this me by
33:21
this like I. I mean it
33:23
was interesting. The sons were coming out so
33:25
quickly I couldn't necessarily listen to. all of
33:27
them were at once and at one point
33:29
I saw like a tick tock with a
33:32
screenshot of what looked like lyrics from one
33:34
of the songs you know on Genius I
33:36
know the format whatever of and those were
33:38
fake lyrics like when I went i look
33:40
it up I was like oh wow and
33:42
I just I don't know if I've ever
33:44
seen something like that as Wilde, but it
33:47
seems like this is just the new normal.
33:49
So. I think we're seeing the beginning of a
33:51
dystopia reality at the end of the day. Them
33:53
know while I'm like oh that's kind of gross
33:55
that some a either have popped up in other
33:58
as a world in which these are the. Could
34:00
be using a I the future. It's because
34:02
they have so much you know music out
34:04
there. trait has so much in the world
34:06
are they. I can create songs that his
34:08
style that sounds pretty identical to have been
34:11
so you know if it came to light
34:13
that he had been using it to give
34:15
himself on upper hand I wouldn't be surprised.
34:17
But it brings up a bigger ethical question
34:19
of like our battles just about what would
34:21
you create soul the Or T used You
34:23
know the tool that your disposal and I
34:26
don't know yet what and you know we're
34:28
talking about how this beasts probably got violent.
34:30
Just this morning, how is that
34:32
complicated by sake A I lyrics
34:34
if the stakes are so high.
34:37
And. Eat Out Does potential say music?
34:39
Fake lyrics make it even more
34:41
volatile and dangerous. Will see I
34:44
It's interesting. It feels like you
34:46
know from a certain lens people
34:48
would say Trump introduced. A
34:51
certain type of fake news? mis information?
34:53
guess who? media But I think in
34:55
retrospect, we can see it so clearly.
34:57
He was riding a wave. Of
35:00
that is why it's manifesting everywhere, right?
35:03
Yeah, Dykes. Last year since the we
35:05
haven't done this yet. Ah, I've heard
35:07
all of these tracks. like Eating Times.
35:09
I need to know your review of
35:11
it. Be like the songs the like
35:14
The Wrapping Who Won musically. For
35:16
me I would say if we we
35:18
take a step back and let go
35:20
of all this other stuff that's happening
35:22
in real time, Kendrick for me is
35:24
clearly winning and from the artistry you
35:26
know just musicality. It was Streams, his
35:28
is starting fire. all of them been.
35:30
Drake is right now so it's a
35:32
contract fight, but about you I think
35:35
it's Kendrick without question. I think you
35:37
for yet in particular is a songs
35:39
that people will be looking back to
35:41
like for decades. It's incredible and I
35:43
think you know we could ask listeners
35:45
to like right Five qualities. That you
35:47
think you know helped define a great
35:49
rap song and without. For since seat
35:51
he succeeds you know not just a
35:53
plus on all of them, a plus
35:56
extra credit it's incredible. And then meanwhile
35:58
my issue with Drake is. Wrap
36:00
flow be on everything else. it's so
36:02
still he doesn't. It's just like that
36:04
allowed to say raids on him his
36:07
battle. he sounded tired and defeated and
36:09
I will say the Kindred song just
36:11
like us as a box isn't the
36:14
orbs already? Oh he got me. move
36:16
It's Ob have a hurry it's oh
36:18
be higher on that know we gotta
36:20
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36:23
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39:46
Acetylene our seems worth that. Know
39:48
where I'll be okay. You. Should
39:50
look it up because he just literally rolled out
39:52
of bed and such as a tsunami move a
39:54
beautiful body, such a soda but it's ugly. that
39:56
boundless service for of. A. By speaking
39:58
of beautiful by the you to jail over
40:01
the also a coach shared she's been having
40:03
really rocky time these past few weeks but
40:05
she looks amazing. However she looked like she
40:07
always that look at predictable Hey I like
40:10
this perps. So this years met gala theme
40:12
was that the Garden of Time which is
40:14
based off the story by Jg Ballard which
40:16
is a story that is about to rich
40:19
people living in a villain who have an
40:21
army on the horizon that is invading their
40:23
land and you know is gonna kill them
40:25
they're gonna die I'm so to stop the
40:28
army from invading them they surf. Pulling.
40:30
The leave the flowers to delay time
40:32
in till they ran of flowers to
40:34
pull from. You know they meet their
40:36
demise. Ah and this is on celebration
40:38
of the new exhibition Sleeping Beauty that
40:41
the Met with will open Friday and
40:43
you know we want. I want to
40:45
start there with you both sneering what
40:47
that stories about. So. That still a
40:49
bit on the nose or be seeing
40:51
the aristocracy a massive with an army
40:53
fitzroy around and way the passage of
40:56
time and our eventual demise step Anna
40:58
wintour. This you. Have my.
41:01
That's a good and I saw someone a
41:03
blue sky point this out there were like
41:05
listen you know of course this theme is
41:08
a lot of the moment but they were
41:10
like honestly the theme of every Met gala
41:12
has basically been the you know the Dams
41:14
of the Red Mask was always pretty. It's
41:17
yeah I wasn't. What is interesting just as
41:19
an aside about the Jg Ballard I'm short
41:21
story as it is an early example of
41:23
science fiction actually which is like an interesting
41:25
element to see come in. But yeah it's
41:28
just I mean I was saying. It's had
41:30
to zoc in Sam, ya know? I
41:32
love fashion. I love fashion fashion but
41:34
really in some ways brought me to
41:37
writing because I wanted to like write
41:39
poems. That's that like these beautiful Alexander
41:41
Mcqueen downs was I will talk about
41:43
minute segments but. It was hard
41:45
to care. I like look isn't a on was
41:48
like this is beautiful but I yeah okay and
41:50
I see or truth. Every. Year everyone's
41:52
like this is the theme for the
41:54
my gala but in my mind is
41:56
always camp. There was one day with
41:58
any new tab and I'm like. The camp which
42:00
was a fine year could Lady Gaga I
42:03
gave us a performance piece. they are actually
42:05
iconic sputtered your plate. This is a celebration
42:07
of the Costume Institute for their in their
42:10
mouth of potassium in which means camp every
42:12
time. However, this year was an interesting it's
42:14
him that some subtle camp was something for
42:16
the landed thought. Well on. you know something
42:19
that is a trend that really emerged
42:21
during the gala was the return of naked
42:23
dresses in a very Marlene Dietrich a decades
42:25
ago address that makes it that you're wearing
42:28
nothing of lot of people were in. Flesh
42:30
tones, Things that make you look like
42:32
you're returning to the beginning of realize
42:34
your birthday suit. which is I just
42:36
nudity and just thinking of that no
42:38
one can top. Kim. Kardashians wet
42:40
dress which I think with mugler was
42:42
an Orion. Years ago there was our
42:45
pretty that like the able to just
42:47
an iconic any who Yeah The one
42:49
thing that I would say is even
42:51
of with i'm a bit apathetic. I
42:54
think this year's theme was sensible enough
42:56
is like flowers a garden time just
42:58
do something with it that I think
43:00
it did give enough of these celebrities
43:03
and their teams enough to go on.
43:05
Were in the past usually the conferences
43:07
and is a it becomes like this.
43:09
Debate over like who matter theme or not
43:11
and this year it was like it's it's
43:14
of that is funny over the top theme
43:16
and we got over the top looked imagine
43:18
okay that's such a good point because the
43:20
shirt is the for sure many years where
43:22
I nothing lot of coverage of people didn't
43:24
know the theme and is you have people
43:26
show up your like are you at the
43:28
right parties less with everyone was pretty consistent.
43:30
they're just all it. Thus I saw some
43:32
and we have looked like a bad production
43:34
of a mid summer's night on that one
43:36
wasn't wearing some young worth a very ah
43:38
yes now so with that. What for you
43:41
guys? What were some of your favorite
43:43
books were things that are like not
43:45
someone I say. I expected her to
43:47
get more loves in the wrap up.
43:49
Some best dressed I always think see
43:51
as an underrated celebrity musician actress. I
43:53
think she should have gotten an Oscar
43:55
nominees and by now for her film
43:58
work around a cooler. He
44:00
looked good. She looked so good.
44:02
Even her estranged husband, a man's
44:04
from Bert he posted in said
44:06
you eight He was this unread.
44:08
Seriously, is are you a girl?
44:10
It was this a red number
44:13
with a lot of lag. A.
44:15
Bright yellow blog of do her face is
44:18
this fears see looks so good either trip
44:20
soon as associate cool as a see as
44:22
cool as us and also I think I
44:24
know they are a strange but I remember
44:26
when see let people know they were breaking
44:29
apart and it's seem very much like they
44:31
were still. You. Know with each other
44:33
well so I like that's so whitsunday
44:35
what I will say. I thought it
44:37
was really beautiful. The original down by
44:40
to do down that that distress was
44:42
alluding to was very much like us
44:44
or female take on the dod Baucus
44:46
the goddess not of wine and so
44:48
this kind of carry through. The Pat
44:50
Mcgrath maker was just so cool and
44:53
I felt like it was is it
44:55
felt like this is what we would
44:57
get his arms and day out was
44:59
a haute couture runway model and week
45:01
we we. See the red carpet looks
45:03
but we haven't take that that level
45:06
and I I thought that was really
45:08
beautiful. I love that I want to
45:10
follow up on town and Taylor just
45:12
to acknowledge those made address. It was
45:15
a velvet rose up leak down from
45:17
the archives of The Blonde's. Well.
45:20
My Ss and man the whole thing
45:22
as red velvet he been long
45:24
flowing but the these velvet roses all
45:27
over the dress other schools really spectacular.
45:29
That's me because the blonde's as
45:31
a designer that has a lot of
45:33
a queer histories an apartment collaborates with
45:36
drag queen so that us love lasagna.
45:38
eyes up us so I love the
45:40
people you picked. but my favorite that
45:43
you did mention was that the singer
45:45
tyler did you see where address a
45:47
little islands or airport. Nail through
45:50
had slaves were there was
45:52
a dad. Is this money than
45:54
just you Know what it is. This is it. She
45:57
says she's suing, She decided you know we're going to
45:59
do guard of. I'm I'm in Aladdin
46:01
close eye on it. So it made a
46:03
say and and suppose I thought ninety Six
46:05
when I see a big deal with when
46:08
she's wearing see and his fans of Sands
46:10
of Time on on well as the I've
46:12
created it and it was is really beautiful
46:14
and like had texture and a hot appeal
46:17
these she couldn't walk in it's using carried
46:19
argue that everyone successor to the room and
46:21
sauce I love they had two weeks they
46:23
had to carry her and she's very last
46:26
minute to carry her up the stairs impose
46:28
harm and then later in the evening. There's
46:30
a video footage of of the designer actually
46:32
cutting her out of the drug. Wow, It's
46:35
so ironic this aware of the sand dress
46:37
when her biggest hit is cold water. Ryan
46:39
like. A
46:42
vampire I model. you're always the
46:44
Wonder Girl owner we the avatar
46:46
status. Of specific,
46:48
okay, this is what, because last time I
46:50
saw it, but like a little small thumbnail
46:53
at in zoom in, I didn't see the
46:55
sand. As. Great as the
46:57
kind of is it on. I for
46:59
second is really quickly I mentioned Alexander
47:01
Mcqueen, Alanna Del Rey who I like
47:03
minded or a Music Lahore. That's why
47:05
I still needed it. Yaps you. I
47:07
did to see where a custom Alexander
47:09
Mcqueen gowns pay for her by the
47:11
new Korea director saw him a girl
47:14
He came in to replace Zeebo in
47:16
there are certain Yeah and it's It's
47:18
really frustrating because that's down as they
47:20
call it, a real imagining kind of
47:22
Mike Woodson day. And it's a real
47:24
imaginings of one of Alexander Mcqueen most
47:26
famous gowns. I'm it's from the Fall
47:28
two thousand and Six collection. It was
47:30
a bridal gowns where it was like
47:32
a bridal veil held up by Stags
47:34
Ford's very beautiful. You've probably seen this
47:36
image in this is look like the
47:39
Sea and Version and I just I
47:41
see I posted on Instagram Ah we
47:43
have fallen from taste it just like
47:45
it veered into costume and frankly just
47:47
made me really sad because Sarah Bird
47:49
my Dad just did such a beautiful
47:51
jobs of carrying on the legacy of
47:53
her direct mentor and then Sullenberger. I'm
47:55
just like dude. You're just giving us
47:57
derivatives, gab and bad derivatives. And even
47:59
like. They are that Spirea. Well
48:01
speaking of an iconic designer, someone that
48:03
popped up all over the runway was
48:06
John Galliano Muslim guy on are Now
48:08
other night or most Allah lot the
48:10
your is you don't see anything Galliano.
48:13
people were pulling. What's. Interesting
48:15
is that there's been a John Galliano
48:17
exhibition that's and has been helping to
48:19
rate for a few years but it
48:21
keeps getting delayed and in is now
48:23
if you know definitely delayed because some
48:25
Galliano forty years ago made lots of
48:28
new them with even arrested for anti
48:30
semitic remarks while he was working for
48:32
person to your he is disappear from
48:34
the fashion world but over the past
48:36
seventy six years assessor what has been
48:38
trying to get him to reemerge as
48:40
a winner again because he is so
48:42
talents it's however the anti semitism is
48:45
still. There and a lot of you
48:47
have a lot of feelings about us.
48:49
I had to bring that up because
48:51
the context in which the gala happening
48:53
in of we have what's happening in
48:55
Gaza right now we have the protests
48:57
happening here in the Us with students
48:59
literally getting arrested off the steps of
49:01
the Met yesterday while the gala was
49:03
there protesting for Palestine and gets know
49:05
when acknowledged that the gala but they
49:07
were really willing to acknowledge John Galliano
49:09
how do we feel about that this
49:11
my theory and of and same as
49:13
since me to started since we began.
49:15
To college cancel culture. Most people
49:17
who were cancelled aren't really cancelled,
49:19
they just get a paid vacation.
49:23
Like a lot of these guys, combat.
49:25
Bill Cosby Got out of prison. You
49:28
know, like only Harvey Weinstein is actually
49:30
locked up. So when I think of
49:32
like mean behaving badly whether be abuse,
49:35
anti semitism, whatever like there's this the
49:37
laundry list of men who go away
49:39
for a little bit and then come
49:41
back So I'm not surprised. His what
49:44
I would say you know and letter
49:46
from Birmingham Jail More Luther King Jr
49:48
warned people against hoping for a negative
49:50
peace us what he called it's am
49:53
I think a lot of people don't
49:55
actually want the world to improve. They
49:57
just. Want to be able to go on with the
49:59
party? They want a negative piece.
50:01
You know that Jg Ballard short
50:04
story is not about to people
50:06
who want peace. They just don't
50:08
want their lives to be interrupted.
50:10
And yeah, and I think that's
50:13
it. And listen, we're all implicated,
50:15
were all implicated. You know I'm
50:17
in different ways for different reasons.
50:19
But yeah, it's it's telling to
50:22
see like how desperate people are
50:24
to just have the party go
50:26
on. This is not surprising. I'm
50:28
thinking about that comedian. Same Gillis
50:30
years ago he was gonna be
50:33
on Snl and then we found
50:35
out though he and was make
50:37
an incredibly awful and offensive anti
50:39
Asian jokes among other things. Just
50:41
a few weeks ago he hosted
50:43
Snl. Take. The. Story
50:45
with these guys is they go away
50:47
for a bit and then they come
50:49
back some aspirin zab and it's you
50:51
know. And I guess my closing out
50:53
here is that the John Galliano. Arrival
50:55
on the Met Gala red carpet yesterday
50:57
is just another example of the energy
50:59
a lot of institutions will put a
51:01
tooth saving. Those that they see as
51:04
you know, they're all the people they
51:06
love and will not put that same
51:08
energy into those that they never see
51:10
as an equal. Adam Sandler really brilliant
51:12
mean that during the Yum. The. Actual
51:14
hoped it was at which was beautiful. I mean
51:16
Zoc and I in particular. We texted back and
51:18
forth like this is so beautiful but damn Gallianos
51:20
and someone pointed out like there's video footage of
51:22
you know and his office eat all of these
51:25
shows and as you pointed out, she's very much
51:27
when if is champions. She's actually smiling like delighted.
51:29
during the runway show. they were like she never
51:31
smiles and so it's kind of like. Depending.
51:34
On your proximity to through power the
51:36
actual gate keepers that rally actually determines
51:39
you know whether yeah by the back
51:41
to the party and all that know.
51:44
With. All these allegations against traits he's not
51:46
done yet either. I guarantee you will have
51:48
another hit single before it's all said and
51:50
done so his men will go away. Basement
51:52
or go away. Don't get me started, Well.
51:55
The final note here as Sick Talk was the major
51:57
sponsor last night in a bid to make should they.
52:00
Away as they might buy up for
52:02
our lives in the Us. As of
52:04
our reporting, they have countersuit the United
52:06
States. I'm in the wake of their
52:08
Met debut, so there's some some interesting
52:11
news. There is also quite ironic that
52:13
an institution like Vogue, which is the
52:15
pinnacle of fashion photography it's now needs
52:17
tip top of. The. Music app
52:19
to help get their message out. Legacy
52:21
Media needs a new players more than
52:23
they care to admit. He added
52:26
laser do balance with that. We're gonna
52:28
take a quick break. the don't go
52:30
anywhere. It will be right back with
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recommendations: Samba Girl Retire Red. Sox.
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it's this article Bell who wins not
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loves We are back and of course before
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we end Every so we like to share
53:57
something that's helping us keep our vibes right
53:59
and. This is certainly
54:01
a week that is called for
54:03
vibe assistance, vibe And even if
54:06
I defy the Princess Anne, Hi
54:08
Sin and Six Ounces at the
54:10
gates I'm Sam. Why don't you
54:12
get us started? Yet
54:15
you. Know we have talked
54:17
before on this show about
54:19
nebo babies and in general
54:21
I see think they're all
54:24
overrated but there's one. To.
54:26
I gotta say did the damn
54:28
thing I'm talking about Will Smith
54:30
I see just released a new
54:32
album called in Pathogen and I
54:34
have been blown away. This
54:36
album shows her vocal skills advancing
54:39
and some really amazing ways and
54:41
she's a lenient into some really
54:43
interesting musical genres. Some of this
54:45
album is tasked, some of it
54:47
as a jazz, some of it's
54:50
prog rock. She's working with the
54:52
likes of Down the Teeth and
54:54
St Vincent the best working guitarist
54:56
today like it's a musician's album
54:59
and says that just cause plane
55:01
tablet a musician sees holding her
55:03
own with the likes of Says
55:05
Vincent and. Giambattista. It's really good
55:07
and I love to see you know
55:10
someone who could have just been mad
55:12
about being called Nebo Babies? Say no,
55:14
I'm gonna just show you my own
55:16
talents. See has grown every album as
55:19
a musician and this on Hazrat the
55:21
top of her crass it's I Be
55:23
Good. You. Know when you really take
55:25
a moment and look back at inside the she's
55:28
young but if you look at her career she
55:30
started scary early on a whim. I air was
55:32
when she was nine years old and that's my
55:34
point. She has not find the false note. Fire.
55:37
And government she went there with ya didn't
55:39
nail it because she's been doing it every
55:41
times. salads or some way to minutes. Some
55:44
reason than an early up on she did
55:46
inspired by one of the characters from an
55:48
Adventure Time for those of us would would
55:50
be good at Yale. I'm a huge fan
55:52
of Hermes. Yeah, she's She's very tell ya.
55:54
Also listeners, not just the new album, check
55:57
out her tiny desk. Concert from Npr is
55:59
incredible and. Love how the presage he
56:01
has done about this album sees this
56:03
has been saying the right things. She
56:05
was asked about being called a Nebo
56:07
baby and see said quotes in security
56:09
has driven me. I aspire
56:12
fair where you go. Well our government.
56:15
Is giving very large nose because they're a
56:17
similar like I was born in the shadows
56:20
and really famous people but I'm going to
56:22
buy my own path even though that that
56:24
light as super bright janice Been was new
56:26
artists. As. Focus on the work arm.
56:29
Zoc! What about you? So. For
56:31
me I have been surprised by how
56:33
much I love the Challenger soundtrack at
56:35
an assistant of with I've been going
56:37
because I know Trent Reznor worked on
56:39
it and a high love his music.
56:42
It's been doing a lot of great
56:44
movie you sound as he would one
56:46
See You Oscars my favorite one of
56:48
his. He did the soundtrack for the
56:50
Social Network Diane I used to exercise
56:52
to that album is so good. but
56:55
you can exercise the Challengers because of
56:57
how I. Didn't think of going to like. I like the clips
56:59
the used. In the movies and I thought it would
57:01
just that would be a and then when you
57:03
play are you here just the clip the clip
57:05
that like they do the same as you listen
57:07
but then the other side of the album or
57:09
the full records with even know whether it's and
57:11
it's so good and it made me that's part
57:13
of his cooperation with this guide him Atticus Ross
57:15
is that has famous but they are the ones
57:17
that have worked on the Social Network for Yes
57:19
Other Foot for years and years and have won
57:21
a few Oscars by now. but it has sit
57:23
me down a rabbit hole of his pass work
57:26
as the frontman of Nine Inch Nails in that
57:28
system like a warm yo get really. Wanting to
57:30
the yeah my Psi ops yeah with
57:32
a good healer it's my says Sam.
57:34
It is the thirty year anniversary of
57:36
the downward spiral with my. The
57:39
No Matter How Close allies
57:41
out of the extended drum
57:44
solo of mine in snails
57:46
the Perfect drug. Takes
57:48
me out of my body as so that
57:51
and also are you gonna keep going deeper
57:53
Gene I was. We listened to the album
57:55
last night downward spiral and I got to
57:57
hurt as I love hearing they remember Johnny
57:59
Cash. The browser the for as I'd have
58:01
an eye on that outmuscled a crying while
58:04
eating pussy bow out of the French it
58:06
was a lot of the. Law
58:09
school anyway on low feel. Heard
58:11
rumors that Trent Reznor. Born.
58:13
To look at. Gov. Bill a
58:15
cigarette. My. And okay, this.
58:18
That Manson I wanna fuck you like an
58:21
animal like slip. Slip.
58:30
I would say that I wanted
58:32
on. A.
58:36
Smooth. God awful isn't I
58:38
got some vibes I wouldn't
58:40
mind. Trick reserved. second. Day
58:44
I have no idea. Read
58:46
here for a Saturday morning
58:48
as continues to Podium Center.
58:50
They. Say he was
58:52
about. This
58:55
pool must is from This book actually
58:57
won the Pulitzer Prize of Twenty Twenty
59:00
three. It's by Carl Philips, a wonderful
59:02
black queer poet. The book is since
59:04
the war. it is his like new
59:07
and selected poems which is always exciting
59:09
to get. yeah I just I think
59:11
this at this poem. Is cinder
59:13
but certainly political. and I will
59:15
just say it ends on a
59:17
das is so it's so We
59:20
kind of ends with you. Just
59:22
asking you to see where it takes you
59:24
anything from our conversation with a the Le
59:26
Moans is kind of like yeah, work with
59:29
feeling Does it leave you on. The
59:31
title is Fixed shadow. Moving
59:34
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