A farm girl from the Wairarapa, distinguished alumna Lisa McLaren remembers conversations around the dinner table with family friends where climate change was dismissed as a “greenie conspiracy”.

The climate change activist, who completed a Master in Environmental Studies with a climate change education focus at Te Herenga Waka—Victoria University of Wellington, says attitudes have changed. Most people now acknowledge climate change is an issue and she is “quietly hopeful” for the future.

Lisa talks with Professor James Renwick from Te Herenga Waka—Victoria University of Wellington's School of Geography, Geology, and Earth Sciences about the value of university study to help critical thinking skills, how to take care of oneself while worrying about your future, and more, in this fascinating podcast.