Bryan Stratton of "Marvel by the Month" joins Douglas Wolk (during the heat bubble in Portland!) to discuss Sub-Mariner #20 and Rise of the Black Panther #4. Topics include Prince Namor's straightedge side, the many beverages of Victor Von Doom, the staircase-as-Slip 'n' Slide motif in Roy Thomas's stories, why "glazier" is one of the more lucrative trades in Latveria, Doctor Doom and Namor's toxic relationship dynamics, and differing views of autocracy in Marvel Comics.