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5/3 6 PM: A new Bears approach for stadium support?

5/3 6 PM: A new Bears approach for stadium support?

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0:01

Live from State Street in the heart of

0:03

Chicago. You are listening to the new

0:05

home of the Chicago Bears,

0:08

ESPN Chicago. And this is

0:10

Waddell and Sylvie, WMBP, WSHE,

0:13

HD2 Chicago, a good karma

0:15

brands radio station. Hope

0:23

your Friday is going well. You've made it to

0:25

your weekend. Waddell and Sylvie dole 640 today. We'll

0:29

recap some of the things that

0:31

happened this week. So much happened,

0:34

obviously, in the wake of the draft and

0:36

reaction to the draft. We grind poles on

0:39

some really, really good stuff from

0:46

people who reacted and trained

0:48

other players like TJ Hushmanzada,

0:51

who was on our show. Good

0:54

stuff from Kayla Williams, dad Carl Williams, want

0:56

to get to. But

0:58

first, I wasn't expecting this today. Also

1:02

what happened this week is the Bears went

1:04

down to Springfield, I believe that was Wednesday

1:07

and they met with the mayors or

1:10

the office. They didn't even

1:12

get the governor himself to

1:14

engage. They went with the

1:16

governor's people, I believe. And

1:20

again, the governor responded with a

1:22

statement saying that it is a

1:24

non-starter. Now does

1:26

that mean that this will never

1:28

get off of the ground? Or

1:31

does this just mean that this is how

1:33

a negotiation happens? I think if,

1:36

listen, I think this is going to be a difficult deal

1:39

to hammer out. But

1:41

if it was dead on arrival, truly,

1:44

I think you

1:46

would hear the tone would be

1:48

more like this will never happen. Something

1:51

of that nature. That this

1:53

is a non-starter. Maybe

1:55

you have to tweak it. There

2:00

has been a pretty defiant

2:02

response from the governor's group,

2:06

but I haven't heard under no

2:08

circumstances will this ever take place type

2:10

of response. So the Bears on

2:13

Twitter, and I first saw it on Facebook, it's

2:15

on Facebook too, on all their social accounts, the

2:18

Bears about an hour ago put out

2:20

on their social spaces more

2:23

great renderings of

2:26

what it looks like. They're trying

2:28

to get you to look at

2:31

how great it looks. And it does look great.

2:33

The renderings are fabulous. And a

2:35

lot of these are, you know, they're trying

2:38

to get you to look at, for

2:40

instance, there's one picture

2:42

here of a festival

2:45

going on with tents and

2:48

lots of people gathering right

2:50

in front of the field museum on

2:52

the open parkland, you know,

2:55

on the green space, making

2:57

an underneath that it says making

3:00

the park and greater campus once

3:02

again, a place for

3:04

all to gather. And then

3:06

your next slide when you hit the arrows, I

3:10

went out of it because then they've got a

3:12

splashy video to the

3:15

next one over is a

3:17

picture of six

3:20

little girls playing

3:22

a soccer game. And it

3:24

says connecting Chicago's historic past to

3:27

its future where mom and dad that are coming

3:29

to the soccer game, take it where they parking

3:31

for that game? I don't know. That's

3:33

a great question. I'm not sure about that. But

3:36

the they're kicking the soccer ball. They're playing in the

3:38

game. It's the blue team against

3:40

the pink team. And

3:43

looks like the pink teams on offense here.

3:46

They've got four coming down the

3:48

field against only two from

3:50

the blue team. So they've got a good

3:52

rush going. I think you should apply for

3:55

the job for the next World Cup. That's

3:57

good to play that play right here. And

4:00

it's in front of the colonnades, the old

4:02

colonnades of Soldier Field. So they

4:04

really want to show you that

4:07

this is great for the community. This

4:09

is more than just a stadium. And

4:11

I don't doubt that it won't

4:14

be beautiful. I don't doubt that. I believe

4:16

it will be beautiful. And I believe that

4:18

there will be some people who live downtown

4:20

that enjoy it. What is this? Do

4:23

you have it in front of you? Tell me what this is. And

4:26

then there's for cultural, recreational,

4:28

and amusement purposes. There's

4:30

a picture of the stadium. And

4:32

then outside of the stadium, it

4:34

looks like there's a

4:36

large gathering of people

4:39

with lots of colors.

4:42

That's the giant hologram machine that they

4:44

did the interview with, with Caleb Williams

4:47

from Draft Night. Remember that? That hologram

4:50

machine? No. That's

4:52

a giant one. There's several

4:54

thousand people gathered outside the

4:56

stadium. For what? I

4:58

don't know. Look, it

5:01

looks like a bit cultural event, perhaps.

5:05

And then again, what kind of cultural event are

5:07

we talking about? Is this a concert? Is this?

5:10

But it's outside the stadium. But it does

5:13

look like something's going on inside the stadium,

5:15

too. Is there a fair going

5:17

on? I don't know. What is

5:19

this, Tyler? Have you looked at the pictures I'm looking at?

5:21

So I'm on the... That Taste

5:23

of Chicago going on? I'm

5:25

on the Bears website here.

5:28

I'm trying to find the one that's in there. These are

5:30

new renderings, too, aren't they? I haven't... I

5:32

don't think these have been seen before. They're

5:35

creating new renderings. So anyway, they're

5:38

having you click on this, and the

5:40

hashtag is Stadium for Chicago. And

5:42

then when you click on it and you

5:44

learn more about the stadium, there's

5:47

also a letter, a

5:49

letter that you can sign. And

5:51

it will automatically then, depending on

5:53

your zip code, go

5:56

to your state representative Of

5:59

your area. To.

6:01

Support their stadium efforts they

6:03

want you to bless in

6:05

football terms. Your. State Rap.

6:08

To show that you support their

6:10

vision of creating this for Chicago,

6:13

I don't know how many people

6:15

are, what percentage of people actually

6:18

feel the need to sign that.

6:22

Know a boy, you sinus three one

6:24

two three three two three seven seven.

6:26

So what is signing it entailed meaning

6:28

that I support this. And I believe

6:30

that's. What? I believe is that the

6:33

Governor's office should give the thumbs up

6:35

for the okay for all of the

6:37

public funds to make this all happen

6:39

and let click on. Years I've got

6:41

her. A Here's a Here's what is

6:43

going to be sent over to your

6:45

local law. May I read this? As

6:47

a deer in Sir lawmaker, I'm writing

6:50

to express my support for the Chicago

6:52

Bears Stadium and Burnham part revitalization project.

6:54

The Chicago Bears recently announced the teams

6:56

plans to privately invest more than two

6:58

billion dollars to cover over seven percent

7:00

of the cause. Of constructing a cutting all

7:02

much how much over. Over

7:05

seventy percent that would or seventy

7:07

percent of the construction. A cost

7:09

of construction of constructing a cutting

7:11

edge publicly owned enclosed stadiums See

7:14

that that that the Cats they're

7:16

as the two billion of the

7:18

seventy percent of the stadium Correct

7:21

This project is going to cost

7:23

well above that. When I would

7:25

say this. Is. The

7:28

Bears are in fact going

7:30

to finance. The

7:32

vast majority of the football related

7:34

stuff that I don't have as

7:36

big a problem. With.

7:39

The state picking up the

7:41

cost for making that area

7:43

nicer. And. A Transportation.

7:47

That. That is you know these be access

7:49

to things better. Like. Idol. And.

7:52

It stayed qinetiq in some funds. oh

7:54

yes it's roads are all eyes of

7:56

others to I go ahead without. The

7:59

thing is like the two billion dollars

8:01

we we know that not seventy percent

8:03

of what ultimately is going to be

8:05

the final bill on the stunning arrive

8:07

on this friends formative project would add

8:10

more public open space, create over eight

8:12

billion dollars and regional economic impact and

8:14

bring and forty three thousand construction jobs

8:16

and forty two hundred new annual jobs

8:18

into the Chicago and region. That proposed

8:21

facility would be built to host Super

8:23

Bowls and see a championships another significant

8:25

events that Dr tourism dollars to the

8:27

city and state. I urge you and

8:29

your colleagues. To some have to support

8:32

this Critical projects to transform Chicago's lakefront

8:34

that will benefit generations to com sign

8:36

your name now that that that presentation

8:39

sounds really great but I heard car

8:41

mention this earlier today and I've read

8:43

articles that say. Over the

8:45

course, in the last eight to ten years, they've

8:48

done a ton of studies about these projects. And

8:51

promises the go along with them that they

8:53

are void of. Create this financial. You

8:56

know, Boom. And

8:58

that everyone's gonna benefit from it.

9:00

And most of those studies I

9:02

think say that that's hogwash. That

9:05

these the these types of progress.

9:07

Proc: Projects rather don't produce

9:10

the type of financial.

9:12

Windfalls, That they're advertising the

9:15

only thing that I would say. And

9:17

and yeah, I understand that. Is.

9:20

It. Like these additives and so would

9:22

bring new events to Chicago that we've

9:24

never had. That, you know what I

9:27

mean. Like that it is a different

9:29

class of stadium. That. Chicago would

9:31

be getting and we would get

9:33

Big Ten championships in we would

9:35

get final fours and we would

9:37

get at least a Superbowl. Yes!

9:39

and and. like there would be

9:41

many more and many more concerts that

9:43

we would probably be able to have

9:45

during the winter that we don't get

9:47

during the summer and what is the

9:50

financial split terms of the revenue for

9:52

that because the bears are proposing we're

9:54

going to give you two point three

9:56

billion boat from what i understand just

9:58

in general terms they're asking the

10:00

majority of the revenue that is coming

10:03

from the non-football related events. Which

10:05

I think is something also that could be a

10:07

negotiating tool. Yeah,

10:09

kick in for the entire stadium. Correct.

10:12

Pay the stadium and then we'll start

10:14

talking about doing the infrastructure. Yeah, look,

10:17

I think that the pictures are fabulous.

10:19

I think that the presentation in a

10:21

perfect world, I get it. I

10:26

would be more on board with it if the

10:28

Bears who own an entity or an asset that's

10:31

worth billions of dollars were more willing to be

10:33

the ones that were financing

10:35

the entirety of the project stadium

10:37

related. So answer our question.

10:41

You heard what they want you to sign. Will

10:44

you sign this? And again,

10:46

you don't have to live downtown or

10:49

in the city because this is a state

10:51

thing. This is you're asking

10:53

your state representative to back this.

10:56

So will you sign this and

10:58

lend your support or

11:00

not? Wouldn't

11:03

you want more details

11:06

before you signed anything? Of

11:09

course. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

11:12

I get it. And look, in

11:15

a perfect world, I would hope they could come

11:17

to an agreement

11:19

here and you build this beautiful stadium

11:21

that does produce revenue that then creates

11:23

tax dollars that can help different things.

11:27

I just think that the

11:29

first presentation, the message,

11:31

one of the messages was, hey,

11:34

this new stadium is going to cure some

11:36

of the social ills that have been a

11:38

problem in this city for decades. And I

11:40

just don't think that that's disingenuous. And

11:43

that's what the state lawmakers are saying. I'm

11:46

in Clifton. You're on ESPN 1000. What's up, Dan?

11:50

Hey, Waddle Sylvie, first time caller, long time

11:52

listener. Thank you. We appreciate

11:54

you. I just I think it's absolutely

11:56

crazy for the bears to have acquired

11:58

the Arlington Heights to

12:01

not build there, they're going

12:03

to continue to cost themselves hundreds of millions

12:05

of dollars annually by not owning their own

12:07

stadium, plus they're going to have the property

12:10

tax debacle in Arlington Heights. Have

12:12

they literally lost their minds and think this is

12:14

okay? Well that property tax

12:16

debacle goes away if they sell the property,

12:19

right? Now again how much they sell it

12:21

for is up for debate and that's a

12:24

burden that they're going to have to endure,

12:27

but I don't think it's

12:29

like the property tax issue goes away

12:31

Dan once the property is no longer

12:33

theirs. Yeah but are they going to be smart enough

12:35

to sell it at a gain or are they going to lose

12:37

on another investment? That I don't know it's still be not well

12:39

I don't know I was like I'm trying to talk to some

12:41

people because if they don't want to build on it I do.

12:44

Bob the builder over here. I

12:46

can't contribute much but I'll contribute to that

12:48

group. Listen I've already had, Eddie O's already

12:50

committed to being a you we're gonna build

12:52

the racetrack again, Eddie O's gonna run it

12:55

and be in charge of it you

12:57

wanted to go what you don't want to go.

12:59

You wanted a wiffle ball. Yeah we'll put you

13:01

over in a corner with a small wiffle ball.

13:04

That's fine with me yeah. We're

13:06

gonna have a casino like

13:08

we're gonna we're gonna turn this into

13:10

you're basically turning it back into Arlington

13:13

Park that we're gonna doll it up

13:15

and it's gonna be more there's gonna

13:17

be more stuff there. Alright Dan you're gonna

13:20

be a silent investor with us?

13:23

I'll be a silent investor I'll tell you what

13:25

I'm a CFO at a nonprofit I can work

13:27

on some of the accounting aspects for you. Perfect.

13:29

There you go we got a CFO final. Let

13:31

me real quick ask you Dan with a financial

13:33

background what do you believe the likelihood is knowing

13:36

the track record of how things

13:39

work in this town what is the

13:41

likelihood that this project in some way

13:43

shape or form is in fact it

13:46

goes forward? Downtown Chicago.

13:50

The way things work in Chicago there's a good

13:52

chance it may go through but it makes zero

13:54

sense and all just gonna do is end up

13:56

hurting taxpayers in my opinion. Okay. Alright Dan thank

13:58

you for the call. Take care

14:00

guys, have a good weekend. There's Dan. Let's

14:02

go to Sam and Addison. Sam, you're on ESPN

14:04

1000. Hey guys, first

14:07

time quality show I've been listening for

14:09

a while and I'll kind

14:11

of have to agree with Dan and you guys

14:13

with how this would be a terrible mess.

14:15

Because if you really think about all this money

14:17

you're spending, regardless of the Arlington

14:20

Heights property, that stadium is

14:22

not probably going to turn a dollar revenue

14:24

of profit for a while. If

14:27

it does see one, it kind of reminds me of

14:29

Roman Coliseum time. Back in the day

14:31

they would tear down all these buildings and

14:33

then they would build Calciems and that was

14:35

towards the end of the Roman Empire. So

14:38

if you really think about it, I mean, maybe

14:40

best days are over. Appreciate the

14:42

good stuff. How about that? And then go back to

14:44

the Roman Empire. We just went through a history exam.

14:48

That I can't reflect. That's like something Yerko would

14:50

bring up and we would just be nodding and

14:52

say, how do you know all this stuff? Terry

14:55

on the south side, you're on ESPN 1000.

14:57

What's up, Tara? Hey,

14:59

what's up guys? Love you, show is always. Thank

15:01

you. Hey guys, I don't, you

15:03

know, every time something significant wants

15:06

to go through in the city of

15:08

Chicago, it's always a lot of red

15:10

tape. You know, we're at the,

15:12

Mikey stated, I think, Warren stated

15:15

in his analogy. He

15:18

said we were not even on the top 20

15:20

as far as destinations,

15:23

you know, that come to an habit. So why

15:25

not build the stadium? I mean, the taxpayers, we're

15:28

getting taxed anyway. That's all

15:30

the Chicago ever does. I mean, build the

15:32

stadium would be something on a new attraction,

15:34

you know, to bring tourists back to Chicago.

15:36

We're even biting up downtown because downtown on

15:38

State Street is a ghost town now. There's

15:40

nothing there. So we need something to bring

15:42

the city back in. You know, I'm

15:44

on the floor. I'll sign it. Okay.

15:47

All right. Terry's going to sign it.

15:49

There you go. Terry's in. So that's

15:51

compared. We've taken three cars, two against

15:53

one for. And

15:55

that's fine. Like a

15:58

lot of people do believe something like that could be. a

16:00

new jewel down there. I

16:03

mean, it'll look great. I mean, it'd

16:05

be fun. I

16:08

don't know the financial, whether or

16:10

not this is a

16:14

realistic financial project or not. Right.

16:17

Like, yeah, once it's here, wherever it's

16:19

built, I would be celebrating Super Bowl

16:21

weekend and Final Four.

16:23

Having sat in that Allegiant Stadium

16:26

in Las Vegas, it was fabulous.

16:28

Everyone's always said, Sylvie, what about

16:30

bare weather? What about being a

16:32

Eurowolce? I can't wait to go

16:34

to a Bears game and take my coat off. Oh, yeah. Do

16:37

you know what I mean? Like, what's the first thing

16:39

we do when we go to a Bulls and Hawks

16:41

game when we get in there? I

16:43

would think you buy a beer and take a jacket off. Yes. Like,

16:46

it's 20 below zero in December or January

16:48

when we walk into the building. We go

16:50

grab a beer, we get into our seat,

16:52

and we take our clothes off. We'll be

16:54

able to do that at a Bears game

16:56

now. And we don't have to worry about

16:58

freezing our ass off and wearing long underwear

17:00

and all that stupid stuff. I

17:03

can't wait for that. I would ask you, before I sign this,

17:05

I want a list from a bipartisan

17:08

group, somebody that doesn't have

17:10

an agenda, and tell me where

17:13

our financial obligations sit right now in

17:15

this city. I just gave you an

17:17

article that said Illinois is

17:20

a dumpster fire right now. Where

17:22

is the worst state in the land, according to

17:24

that poll? You give me

17:26

a detailed list of

17:28

where we're at with pensions, where

17:31

we're at with infrastructure, where we're

17:33

at with revenue versus the credit rating, all

17:36

that stuff we've always been in. And

17:38

the debt that is attached to the city,

17:41

are we paying any of the principal down,

17:43

or are we just making interest payments right

17:45

now? And then I'll have a

17:47

better idea whether or not I think that this is a

17:49

good idea for the city to take on even more debt.

17:53

What's up, Dal? Hey,

17:57

what's going on, Toby? What's going on, Tommy? is

18:00

that I think the Bears and

18:02

the Mccaskey family, they're doing great

18:04

when it comes to general managership

18:06

of the organization. However, this presidential

18:08

stuff seemed to be just,

18:11

I don't know, he did it

18:13

in Minnesota, but to my point,

18:15

I say think big, think radical. I

18:18

say Bears go to Arlington,

18:20

NFL, whatever the Mccaskey has,

18:22

as Mccaskey's have as far as being

18:24

able to have veto power, let

18:27

the NFL and the NFC go

18:29

to Arlington, bring in the

18:31

AFC to Soldier Field, put

18:34

an AFC team here, and put the

18:36

Mccaskey's in checkmate once and for all.

18:39

That's my opinion. I always joked that

18:41

we should have the Bears and the

18:43

Chiefs who need a new stadium just

18:46

go in together, collaborative, and build a

18:48

stadium wherever, together, and then don't have

18:50

taxpayers. I always say that there is,

18:52

at some point, there's going to be

18:54

an AFC team here, right? Doesn't he

18:57

believe in a two-team town? He does,

18:59

and I don't believe, truthfully, I don't

19:01

believe. We have a bat hoodie in me. We

19:03

have a lifetime bat on that. I don't believe

19:05

the Bears will ever

19:07

allow that to happen. I'm with you. I think

19:09

that there has been an agreement that

19:11

I can't prove is accurate, but

19:15

they have an agreement as the charter franchise that

19:17

there will no longer be, there will

19:19

never, ever again be a second NFL franchise

19:21

in this team. No, and there are too

19:23

many other emerging markets that they would like

19:26

to have teams in,

19:29

including, eventually, London and

19:32

other cities in this country before

19:35

a second team in Chicago. When

19:38

was the last time a team

19:40

moved in to another team's turf,

19:43

basically? The

19:46

Rams and Chargers did it, but the Rams had

19:48

been there a year, so I... Right,

19:51

right. It just seems so much more... Yeah, the

19:53

Chargers and the Rams. Would

19:55

it be technically Brooklyn going to New York?

19:58

The Nets. Yeah. And

20:01

what else? And I don't know that that's necessarily

20:03

been a raging success as opposed to just gone

20:05

to like Seattle or something. Like I feel like

20:08

it's so much easier to just expand to another

20:10

market. You know what is

20:12

another interesting conversation? I heard Black talking about

20:14

this with the guys earlier

20:16

this week as well because Chris lived

20:19

down here at one point and

20:21

ran along the lake front and in Grant

20:23

Park and did visit the

20:25

entire area because he lived here. And

20:28

they asked him because he doesn't live here anymore,

20:30

how frequently would you be down here when you

20:33

don't live there? And he said maybe once

20:35

or twice a year. That's the thing. So

20:38

my question is, is all of these grand

20:40

plans which seem fantastic, is

20:44

it really going to draw as

20:46

many people as they're projecting or

20:49

they're talking about? I don't know.

20:51

Like Chris, when I lived downtown,

20:53

I used to go rollerblading

20:55

on the path years and years

20:57

ago and go sit out

20:59

there by McCormick Place. This is when Meg's

21:02

field was open. I used to watch planes

21:04

take off and land. Which is cool, but

21:06

where's the revenue generation from that? Right, but

21:08

it was only when it was super convenient

21:11

for me. Once I moved

21:13

to a different part of the city, to the

21:15

UIC area or to the West

21:17

Loop then, and then I moved

21:19

to Ukrainian Village. You think I was ever going to

21:22

the museum camp? And I think that one of the

21:25

things they talked about which resonated with me

21:28

was, was the last time you were at Navy

21:30

Pier. How often do you go

21:32

to Navy Pier? I've

21:35

been there one time maybe in the last three

21:37

or four years and that was for one of

21:39

the shows we did. I think I was already

21:41

at that show too. Yes. And

21:43

I think for me the last time I was at Navy Pier

21:46

was All Star Weekend for

21:49

the NBA. It's probably the

21:51

last time I was at Navy Pier. So

21:55

I mean, I'm just trying to, I'm playing

21:57

devil's Advocate right now and you could dress.

22:00

Please stop. It would look magnificent.

22:02

Are. You really convinced that it's going to

22:05

get the traffic that you are. Suggesting

22:09

is gonna get. Either

22:11

that I don't know. I mean is it

22:13

would be glorious on Sundays, run afoul football

22:15

games, But and.

22:18

How whereas In of Hartford's has been down there

22:20

hanging around right where is everyone wears a meme.

22:22

So when we talk about the yeah colossal Amazon

22:24

or to I mean like hundred only getting that,

22:27

he may not be sixty five thousand strong. But.

22:29

It seems to be easy now. Jason in

22:31

Manhattan you're on E S P I'm I'm

22:34

thousand subjects. Regards of

22:36

long time with their first time

22:38

caller. Here's

22:40

my says and everything, so

22:42

hear me out here At

22:44

downplayed, The Mccaskill had enough

22:47

money to. Go. And throw

22:49

around and by Arlington I don't know

22:51

the exact number. And it

22:53

was a threat which I understand. Thousand one hundred

22:55

thousand five million. write some in that neighborhood. They

22:57

bought it for less than two hundred million and

23:00

that what a, well, what. Okay

23:02

and what I'm saying is they need to

23:04

add that to what they're paying for and

23:07

this new project because I'm not gonna pay

23:09

for the taxpayer for there's run. Defense.

23:11

Cargo. Don't. Know it sounds

23:14

what I'm paying for their mistake. In

23:16

purchasing Arlington. Because.

23:18

Now the going to say is cargo. And

23:21

they're not of recalls money. On

23:23

are going to get it from a. Well

23:25

established. What are some odd First of

23:27

all, Jason was one hundred ninety seven

23:29

point Two million dollars the purchase of

23:32

the Arlington property. How much to demolish?

23:34

Some reason? How much as you really

23:36

get high slightly flat? Yes, that's a

23:38

great point was that? Wow, I don't

23:40

know. So. And know when I

23:42

was that. He

23:45

I know but like look at I

23:47

would assume part of their investment in

23:49

the stadium downtown will include money that

23:52

they recoup from selling this to some

23:54

some money will buy this property. Summer.

23:57

Yeah, right right. They make a

23:59

profit. Canadian. Don't

24:01

you want any part of building? I

24:03

don't like the coolest. We'll. Leave

24:06

and compete with these people down A of rebuild

24:08

the right. Facilities for different than

24:10

we're We're we're getting. the investors

24:12

will find them. We have time

24:14

in. The. You know what?

24:17

We've been busy baseball season start any of

24:19

us is rafol a summer nonprofit who just

24:21

handle our box and so we got we

24:23

still have a sail around and is that

24:25

he comes back from from from Churchill Downs

24:27

will sit down with him and see what

24:29

he can do with Apartheid Bill on the

24:31

South side you're on a as the a

24:34

one thousand. What's up though? You're

24:37

my hero. You're the first guy that

24:39

said bring the racetrack back Yeah, that

24:41

with a glorious pit place. I had

24:43

the best time going out there watching

24:45

the best athletes. Both equine and human

24:47

on the race track in a glorious

24:49

setting. It was gorgeous. The idiot poor

24:52

as down it was only thirty thirty

24:54

five years old. It was a wonderful

24:56

setting. a good down there watch the

24:59

animals before the track that was more

25:01

fun than than the Pats. Watching.

25:03

These glorious animals you can get five feet

25:06

away from Mom and they tore it down

25:08

in it. It was such a waste. I

25:10

say build it back up. Think of this.

25:13

Tomorrow the whole world be focused

25:15

and it can see that stupid

25:17

little states and we have messing

25:19

with such as I guess smells

25:21

insistence that are come on now

25:23

I I I said. It's

25:25

allies as hordes of hundred of them were

25:27

just. But we don't have a race track

25:29

here. At Hawthorne only

25:32

ones running but but it is

25:34

not as glorious as that beautiful

25:36

track they tore apart. For. Nothing.

25:39

Okay I'm going to say this is why

25:41

I keep hearing myself as a Chicago or

25:43

was Not only will we will gets trapped

25:45

there were didn't a casino license. Okay so.

25:50

Go. Look at me like my you don't

25:52

open attract these days without a casino less

25:55

only awesome you want to be just a

25:57

dinner I'm gonna have a nice restaurant out

25:59

there is. Well, because trackside, we're

26:01

building it up that just like

26:03

it was with didn't I read

26:05

somewhere that no matter what who,

26:07

the Churchill Downs who owned Arlington

26:09

yeah, whoever they were going to

26:12

sell it to, they were not.

26:14

Keep in the trunk open. That.

26:16

Was the reason I cracked. I think that's

26:19

true. Zola to blame the bears that the

26:21

truck was closed. Was. Under the

26:23

plan that the track or as it

26:25

was was not going to be kept

26:27

by anybody. Who would you

26:29

kids that are your mind were put a new

26:31

one else and then I met say you're from

26:33

a guy simulator and they're saying to blame the

26:36

bears for the trying to be shut down in

26:38

the first place right? Yeah yeah yeah not yeah

26:40

that that they were. Get rid of it anyway

26:42

But we're going to redo it and we're going

26:44

to get a steak or us steakhouse. Over there

26:46

were Islam Bay. Moody's They respond within

26:49

a were on his yes only I'm going to

26:51

be part of Islam day long bay. Say.

26:55

You know, like isn't that interesting? I

26:57

did I say a deserve flom day.

27:00

I. Lighter. And. Like it. Or

27:03

Green Bay not Tampa Bay. I know

27:05

that would the busiest origami on preparation

27:07

or it I ever. I know the

27:09

details. Charlie Yeah, I'm

27:11

says you know what? Listen on spitball And

27:13

right now because I think there's tremendous potential.

27:15

Up there are Charlie and Carol stream you're

27:18

on a as feel one thousand what's up

27:20

talk. Or yeah I think to say you

27:22

might call. You

27:24

back guy God.ago as Arlington

27:27

it could not stay and

27:29

Sakara. Arizona.

27:32

War A Man and got into

27:34

bed with Johnson. think for and

27:36

around. The we realize

27:38

how many. Pockets. Has

27:40

to be lined in Chicago

27:42

in order for this. The

27:44

work. I'm

27:47

in without a bunch our hours and

27:49

I are Your hand wouldn't have a

27:51

cast his own. It. Who

27:53

do they have? The line? Nobody. Nobody.

27:58

Is so far. say this as

28:00

well, I think if time is of

28:02

the essence, getting shovels in the ground, it's got,

28:05

I would think would be probably going to happen

28:07

much quicker in Arlington than it is down here.

28:09

But it's going to cost them way, way more.

28:11

Isn't it? To build that whole thing

28:13

up? Or could you just build the start with the stadium

28:15

and do it in stages? Yeah,

28:18

of course, I think so. Isn't that how the

28:20

Patriots did it? Yeah. Out in Foxwood,

28:22

they built the stadium and then the rest of

28:24

the project came years and years later. And then

28:26

look for investors. Yeah. Like

28:28

us. Didn't he

28:30

just start by buying the parking lot and then kind

28:33

of... He bought up all the

28:35

parking lots around it. Right. He

28:37

owned it first. Yeah. He owned

28:39

the parking lots first. That's what you got

28:42

to do with Arlington Wall. Listen, I... I've

28:44

never ever crafted the Bears. I

28:46

wish the Bears the best in this endeavor.

28:48

I think it's got to be the right

28:50

decision for the entire, for

28:53

them, for the state, for all of the, you

28:55

know, the citizens. It's got to, you know, I

28:57

want it to go well for everybody. I really

28:59

do. I just don't

29:01

know. I don't

29:03

know what step is next for them. Neither do I. Yeah.

29:07

I think that their next step is to try to

29:09

gain more support and they're working on that support. And

29:12

first they're working on the fans. I don't think this...

29:15

I admire what they're trying to do. They're

29:18

accessing everything. I

29:20

don't know what kind of impact this one will have.

29:22

In fact, I don't know how many people... I don't

29:24

know. They do all these studies. My

29:27

guess is they've got a pretty good feel, their prediction

29:29

as to how many people they can get on board

29:31

with this. I'm not sure they're going

29:33

to hit that. I don't

29:35

know how many people you're going to get that... Well, what

29:37

did we get? One? Right. I

29:40

think we got one caller who said that they would sign something like

29:42

this. Wouldn't the best way to

29:44

do it just slap Caleb Williams and Roma

29:46

Dunez on all your promotional material for this

29:49

kind of stuff? Build a new stadium for

29:51

them. Exactly. Yes,

29:53

but the governor of downstate Illinois is not

29:55

going to be... The bright lights and the

29:57

loud noises aren't going to affect him. Just

30:00

like in Kansas City. They have already the

30:02

finished product of that and they're like, you

30:04

know what you could take a hike. Yes

30:08

it is a it's a really

30:11

really interesting story and with the

30:14

the Bears wanting this to happen sooner rather than later

30:16

I I Don't know

30:18

what's gonna go on. Yeah, it doesn't sound like

30:20

things are gonna happen in the spring session, but

30:22

who knows I don't know how politics work So,

30:25

thank you today to Jesse Rogers great work

30:27

I dabbed Chuck wagon in char dog as

30:29

many people call him around here Great

30:32

work as always by Tyler Aki

30:34

our executive producer. We've got white

30:36

Sox baseball coming up next for

30:38

Waddle I'm Sylvie a CSP

30:40

in 1000 have yourself a great

30:43

weekend I

30:50

am Really excited.

30:52

That was a that was a big

30:54

thrill. Hi, it's Andre Dawson including myself

30:56

at bill for What

31:07

no hi from you and give them more

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bias and highs

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