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5/8 3 PM: Is Pickle Ball a sport?

5/8 3 PM: Is Pickle Ball a sport?

Wednesday, 8th May 2024
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0:00

Live from State Street in the heart of Chicago.

0:03

You are listening to the new home

0:05

of the Chicago Bears. ESPN Chicago. And

0:08

this is Waddell and

0:10

Silvia. WMBP, WSHE,

0:12

HD2 Chicago. A good Karma Brands

0:15

radio station. It's a lot cocked, ready

0:17

to rock. I don't know what

0:21

happened here. I'm

0:23

the cross-talk. We'll get to it

0:25

in a second. Karma just disparaged all

0:27

pickleball players. He didn't like

0:29

it. He didn't want any pickleball courts being built.

0:32

He did clarify a few things for

0:34

me that I did miss. He's

0:38

not against building pickleball courts. He's

0:41

just against building a pickleball court at

0:43

this park because he says it's overly

0:45

congested. And that's fair. And

0:48

that's fair. But, you know, when you sit

0:50

there and start saying, oh, it's for a

0:52

rich person's sport, and oh, I don't see

0:54

anyone, any kids playing it. Wait

0:56

a second. Park districts have

0:59

always been about everyone. And when kids

1:01

are not playing on the ball fields

1:03

and the diamonds, you

1:05

have old people taking classes and taking part

1:07

in things inside the park districts. So,

1:10

and it is, I cannot tell

1:12

you, it is so incredibly popular. They

1:15

said that the largest age bracket for

1:17

pickleball players now is 18 to 34. 18 to 34? It's

1:21

no longer the 60-year-olds that are playing it

1:23

as the only ones. I've

1:25

heard in our neighborhood that there are kids

1:27

playing. I have not played

1:30

pickle yet. It's an easy sport

1:32

to teach kids because it's another, it's

1:34

like with golf. Golf is

1:36

hard to, you know, you have to pay for golf. You

1:38

have to be able to go afford it. It's expensive

1:40

with the equipment. It's a

1:42

lifelong sport. Pickle is

1:45

a lifelong sport. If

1:47

you want your kids to pick up a sport,

1:50

try pickle. It doesn't cost anything.

1:53

Do you think people will play pickleball in 20 years? Or is

1:55

this a fad? No, it's not

1:57

a fad because the growth rate over the last year,

2:00

Three years according to. Our

2:02

this pickle ball website is two hundred

2:04

and twenty three percent. And.

2:06

They present now known twenty years they've

2:09

provable has been around for twenty years

2:11

and assist in the last three years

2:13

that it has really picks up speed.

2:16

Or. Or by the way, I'm going

2:18

to be out tomorrow after the show.

2:20

we've got a happy hour for you

2:22

know, yelling about pickle ball that won't

2:24

be tolerated. I will not have

2:26

any of it's we're just gonna be

2:29

having fun. Drugs in a wiser cried

2:31

Kentucky Straight Bourbon Us we're going to

2:33

be at a place called Slightly Posted

2:36

that is apropos My favorite drinking day

2:38

of the week. It Thursday Slightly Toasted

2:40

is right near the Ogilvy train station.

2:42

The exact address is Twenty Two North

2:45

Clinton, so I'll come out and see

2:47

me tomorrow after the show or the

2:49

event starts at five thirty. I'll be

2:52

there a little after six, will go

2:54

a little after eight o'clock. And

2:56

will be given away a to some

2:58

us to our golf outing The Griffin

3:00

Insipid Classic. This is a sold out

3:03

of then to the only way you

3:05

can a spot in the golf outing

3:07

is by attending the slightly toasted happy

3:09

hour tomorrow As dumb Twenty two North

3:11

Clinton's proxy by Eliza Crack Kentucky Straight

3:13

Bourbon Whiskey I hear we have a

3:16

putting green there so I don't don't

3:18

is that's how we're gonna give away.

3:20

The. The the to some or not

3:23

but we're gonna find we're going to

3:25

drink and I'm looking forward to tomorrow.

3:27

Nice tomorrow night. I. Hope Carmen is

3:29

listening because our dear friend Tracy

3:31

Butler. Fellow B C seven Did she

3:33

call in sick? Just texted me she

3:36

should call in her high school daughter.

3:38

And her friends go out and play pick

3:40

up pickle ball games. And the time?

3:42

Yes, So seem mad at Carmen.

3:45

See. Said the ceases to examine

3:48

disparaged like. A group seventy

3:50

four thousand and one race when com

3:52

guess it revved up. Like. again

3:54

i'd this is that this is

3:56

carmen to a t carmen again

3:59

you can tell Carmen that

4:04

all of his tires are bad

4:06

and there will be a three hour wait and he

4:09

will have to stand on the side of the road

4:11

on 55 on the way home. And

4:14

I'll be like, hey, what am

4:16

I going to do? It's a nice day. I'll

4:18

just I'll sit here for a while.

4:21

No big deal. But you tell

4:23

him about pickleball in this

4:26

and he'll go crazy and he'll tell

4:28

you rich man sport. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

4:30

Yeah. This is

4:33

all this and no one likes

4:35

pickleball. It's it's all

4:38

your ass. If you like pickleball, like

4:40

everything just go over the top. The

4:42

car you're going to have to sit

4:44

in the side of the shoulder. OK.

4:47

Do not leave the highway. You have

4:49

to sit on the side of the road

4:52

on the busy on 55 in the

4:54

sun for the next three hours. No

4:56

tow truck. What

4:58

are you going to do? You know,

5:01

I understand it's a busy time. It's rush hour.

5:03

You know, I got my phone here. I'll just

5:05

I'll take a look on Twitter right now. I'll

5:07

prepare for tomorrow's show. It'd

5:10

be worse. That's

5:12

Carmen. Yeah, that's Carmen. Yeah.

5:15

It's because they met. They're messing with his

5:17

baseball. That's what it is. They're

5:19

messing with his baseball. I hate to

5:21

tell Carmen this, but anyone who works

5:23

in the sporting good industry has access

5:25

to the numbers. Right. You

5:28

had this computer with the pickleball. Well,

5:30

I know you're also you're also biased

5:32

because you're on the pickleball site. So

5:34

it could be skewed. OK.

5:40

So would baseball's numbers be skewed?

5:43

Hello. Right now, in

5:45

terms of participation in sports, football

5:48

has the fewest that participate

5:51

at five million soccer, 12 million.

5:55

12, 15 million. Tennis, 22 million. Golf, 25 million. million,

6:00

pickleball 36 million.

6:02

Do you guys believe this? Running and

6:04

biking. I feel like Peggy's on the

6:07

National Pickleball Association. Look, you're talking about

6:09

all of this is one reason

6:11

why pickle is so popular because

6:14

anyone can play. Well not only that but

6:16

it doesn't stop like

6:18

like so many sports if you were

6:21

a high school baseball player you don't

6:23

play in college that's it. Okay

6:25

you play in a men's league you play

6:27

in pickup softball whatever but

6:30

for a lot of people that

6:32

played tennis there are now alternative

6:34

racket sports that they didn't have

6:36

all these years. So you have

6:38

a lot of high school athletes

6:40

who played tennis who are very

6:42

good at pickle. Yes, yes. Brooks

6:44

and Hinsdale you're on ESPN 1000. What's

6:46

up Brooks? Hey what's

6:48

up? Yeah just gonna chirp up Carmen,

6:50

classic old white DJ guy here.

6:53

I actually want to propose

6:55

to Carmen. I will be hitting him up

6:57

on Twitter. I would like to give him

6:59

a hundred and one odds in

7:01

a game of pickleball and my question to him is if

7:03

you don't accept it which I don't think I'm not sure

7:06

that he's going to get two points off me but if

7:08

you don't accept it I don't know that you can call

7:10

it that you can't call it a sport. Because

7:12

it's one of those things that yes it is reason

7:14

why it's fun to play if anyone can play it

7:16

but it's only as easy as your level of

7:18

competition. So if I'm playing someone's playing out there

7:20

playing Carmen then yeah it's going to be easy.

7:23

But if you're playing like you guys

7:25

just touched on someone who played

7:27

tennis or someone who has like background and

7:30

has you know fast hands pretty skilled. I

7:32

mean it's like you know the game is

7:34

only as easy as you're playing with. That's what I would

7:36

say to Carmen. That's a great point. I've

7:38

watched on ESPN or I forget

7:41

where like these doubles matches where

7:44

Andre Agassi and Jim McEnroe,

7:46

John McEnroe are playing against

7:48

each other like Steffi Graff

7:51

is paired obviously with Agassi

7:53

and someone's paired with McEnroe

7:55

and these games are incredible.

7:58

The back and forth and the vibe. Always on

8:00

these things, so like that. That's

8:02

another thing about karma. It's one

8:04

thing to be against having a

8:06

congested parts having a court, but

8:09

then when he doubles down Levi's

8:11

it's not a sport. That's

8:13

when he gets out our ahead of himself.

8:15

and yeah, I

8:17

hear another certain number one hundred to one

8:19

of our you're giving them a hundred a

8:21

wide as they wanted to two points off

8:23

of the oh. Not. At

8:25

all hundred on that he a hundred want to win

8:27

a game. Or game is up to

8:29

eleven I would you Even other damn I

8:32

said the spread of what would that be

8:34

like? The games up to eleven Fight against

8:36

eight that I'll give him a even even

8:38

odds Eight have spreads and keep in mind

8:40

this ah you can put whatever you want.

8:42

On either that or guy that has been

8:44

you are like this are so are there

8:47

you go. Brooks will get your information. So

8:49

karma he's listening. Ah he will give him

8:51

a hundred to one is it He will

8:53

not be them. And. They will give

8:55

them even a house. In. A game

8:57

to eleven, sir. I would say

9:00

that and money. And ah and not

9:02

only did three see Butler tax the

9:04

and tell me that her teenage daughter

9:06

plays pick up a pickle ball games

9:09

but Lindsay Atoms are. Who in

9:11

our sales departments here? One of

9:13

our else. Ah lovely, wonderful people.

9:16

So. Do her teens all about that

9:18

because they and Plus Unit. Now it's bit

9:20

like it. Ever since I was in high

9:22

school it's been a gym class unit. See,

9:24

so it isn't. It's not that new as

9:26

says in the last. Three years where it's

9:29

really picked up steam since the pandemic. Period.

9:32

In Skokie, you're on E S P N One Thousand

9:34

one. Such a. Broad

9:36

which com was still here, but. None.

9:38

The was also go to piggy side who

9:41

is this. Ago that. You

9:44

can see the girls and or Sylvie you're

9:46

familiar with Skokie they just put in. Six.

9:48

New Chords. It off the ball

9:51

field of the park behind the pool. Sure. They

9:53

opened up yesterday. I

9:56

said says I live two blocks away

9:58

I texted some people. Yeah to

10:00

Cobol group. It's it's scope is open

10:02

a walked for the six thirty. A

10:05

doctors are swallowed as they're. So.

10:08

They were already one day one

10:10

day old and there are people

10:12

use using it. To

10:14

people that I know, others families there, I mean

10:16

there are six courts for four of them. Were.

10:19

Being. Used. Within

10:21

six hours of openness, know it's

10:23

happening. Yeah, sincere and when I'm

10:25

in in Florida in this is Naples

10:28

neighborhoods access to South Park and they

10:30

completely and they just filled it with

10:32

pickle ball courts. There had to

10:34

be some. I think I counted the

10:37

roles of forty. So there are

10:39

between forty and fifty pickle ball course.

10:41

We got there at eight thirty in

10:43

the morning and you sign up

10:45

for your name on our i'm a

10:48

Talker. It's as there were up

10:50

already, easily maybe two hundred people playing

10:52

easily to Integrated within an hour. There

10:54

had to be five hundred or so.

10:57

If all these people are paying five

10:59

hundred that five dollars a day, just

11:01

have to pay. A Park District is

11:03

making. A couple thousand.

11:05

The. Point in their midst of thousand dollars

11:07

a day on people playing pickup. Line.

11:09

Is a rendering of years only for

11:12

a pow zebra. Yeah. You

11:14

just go pay five bucks the all. it's

11:16

unbelievable so I don't know what they make

11:18

off of. like say that my kids face

11:21

fall in travel baseball teams, all that money

11:23

pretty much things to the trampoline and only

11:25

some of it goes to the parents his

11:27

circle where their games are you. I don't

11:30

how much money they make and off of

11:32

it but. David got a point

11:34

about rich people sports. David you're on

11:36

E S P A One thousand Ah

11:38

what's up Guys are never dream of.

11:40

Ours is called about Jobs do that?

11:43

The. I solar doesn't make the ninety eight

11:45

When baseball was like growing. And

11:47

car was forty one years old. Assistance and

11:49

do not use my suit in the demographics.

11:52

Of pickle Ball and I'm like dude, you're

11:54

forty. I'm forty nine. Ip Keys forty to

11:56

forty seven, right? Or my you have

11:58

your old deployed may be different. like the

12:00

40s is your prime time for playing pickleball.

12:02

It's great. And I love baseball too,

12:04

but you know, guaranteed, like Peggy was

12:07

saying, you throw a baseball diamond there

12:09

and compare what gets used more. It's

12:11

going to be pickleball like by 30, 30 times, like

12:14

kids aren't playing pickup baseball anymore. Like it wasn't

12:16

when we grew up. So sorry for

12:18

the background noise. My damn lawn guys decided to

12:20

get here. No, it's all right.

12:22

There you go. He's got the landscaping crew over,

12:24

but like, I think he wanted to say too,

12:27

that the baseball

12:30

equipment is way

12:32

more expensive than playing like

12:34

pickleball. Like again,

12:36

like Braxton, for

12:38

an eight year old, my son is

12:40

starting the travel thing, which I think

12:43

it's too early, but this

12:45

is when it's starting for eight years old. You

12:47

don't get me started on travel. But I'm with

12:49

you on this too. I don't love it. I

12:51

don't love it. I don't either. And

12:54

my philosophy is there are a lot of these kids who

12:56

have these $300 bats. My philosophy is

12:59

at eight years old, you do not

13:02

get a bat for even like

13:05

you don't get $100 bat. I got him about

13:07

for $80. Right. To me is an

13:09

expensive bat for an eight year

13:11

old. I'm still stuck in the

13:14

old days. Right. $80. It's a

13:16

good bat. It's well reviewed. Like

13:18

we he's using now his

13:20

friend's bat that he likes more. And he's like,

13:22

I want this bat. I go, I said to

13:25

my wife at the game, I go, how much

13:27

is that that the bats $380? Come on. $300

13:29

more than

13:32

the bat. I got it. I looked at him. I

13:34

go, there's no chance you're not getting that

13:36

you can borrow. Yeah, the games you are

13:39

you out of your mind? You're not getting

13:41

a bat for $400 at

13:44

eight years old. So the it really it

13:46

just bothers me because the rich

13:48

person sport. Yeah, exactly. That's my

13:50

point. People are

13:52

spending mortgage payments, car

13:55

payments for their

13:57

kids to play travel, baseball,

13:59

gymnastics. club volleyball, whatever,

14:01

you pick it, club

14:04

baseball, AAU basketball. They're

14:06

spending mortgage payments and their

14:09

kids are never going to

14:11

play maybe high school, maybe

14:14

not. And you're

14:16

complaining about giving them an

14:18

opportunity to play a sport that

14:20

they can play throughout their entire life and

14:22

it doesn't matter whether they make the team

14:25

or not in high school. I mean,

14:27

that's... I

14:30

swear to God, Carmen... We have a

14:32

developing story to this. Let's

14:34

go live to Western Springs right now

14:37

where we pick it up

14:39

with Isabel, who would like to contradict some

14:41

of the facts that Carmen

14:44

has brought to the table. He

14:46

wasn't telling the truth. He was spinning it.

14:49

Let's not let that get in the way of a

14:51

good man. That Carmen doesn't even know what he's talking

14:53

about. The temporary parking

14:55

lot that he so belovedly parks at

14:58

for youth baseball was just because they

15:00

tore down tennis courts and

15:03

this pickleball court has been in the plans

15:05

for two years and raised money privately for

15:07

these pickleball courts. So there's

15:09

no village funding for pickleball courts going

15:13

up overnight and taking away an existing

15:15

parking lot. It's just ridiculous. So

15:18

this money has been raised privately.

15:20

Correct. This

15:22

is not the... So the friends of

15:24

the parking lot have no bearing in

15:27

taking their nose in here. This

15:29

is privately funded. Are they

15:31

naming the courts after the sponsor? It's

15:34

just one of the parking lot and that's Carmen.

15:36

There's no multiple friends of the parking lot.

15:38

Are there... All the baseball parents are

15:40

the friends. Are the pickleball

15:43

courts sponsored? That

15:46

I don't know. I just know there's been fundraisers and

15:48

private donors... I bet they're sponsored. ... to raise the

15:51

money. Yeah, I bet they're sponsored and they get to

15:53

put their sign up. Just like at

15:55

baseball games where the sponsors are able to put

15:57

their names up. Yeah, the names are... scoreboard

16:00

is sponsored by a local bank or

16:02

whatever. Yeah Isabelle let me

16:04

ask you this. That's the crime of

16:06

nobody talking about. How do you plead when

16:08

Carmen brings up that this is a dangerous

16:11

situation already, that Gio and his

16:13

other friends are

16:15

in peril when they get out of the

16:18

car and they are taking their equipment to

16:20

try to get to the field as it

16:22

is and this will

16:24

just make an overly congested

16:27

situation more congested. I

16:30

mean I'm not going to lie it's not a great setup

16:33

the way they have it but even

16:35

before the tennis courts were torn down

16:37

there was just as much evening tennis

16:39

playing as there will be pickleball playing

16:41

so it was already a mess. So

16:44

I know he's probably gotten used to having parking

16:46

for a year and a half but it's always

16:48

been a mess. It's probably always going to be

16:50

a mess but it is not at the peril

16:54

of the pickleball. Okay Isabelle stay

16:56

there for a second. I'd like to bring

16:58

in a special guest. Can you

17:00

conference it in Miller because I don't know

17:02

how these phones work anymore. If

17:04

they're still the same Isabelle we lost

17:07

Isabelle. It did drop

17:09

but if she could call back. Carmen is on

17:12

a line. Of course he is. No

17:14

no I was just going to say. Look

17:16

this is community radio at its finest. Oh my

17:18

gosh you're not kidding. When I was in Iowa

17:20

how we used to do things when

17:23

we handle things on the air like this.

17:25

Carm how do you respond to Isabelle? Welcome

17:27

to Western Springs W.S.P.R. I

17:32

only caught the tail end of what Isabelle was saying. She talked

17:34

about the congestion and it's always

17:36

a mess and she's right. I

17:39

just thought it was funny. A guy from Hindsdale and

17:41

a guy yelling at his gardener called in to talk

17:43

about pickleball. See you guys.

17:47

What an ass. What an ass.

17:50

Isabelle called back but Carm didn't even want her

17:52

to really debate. A guy from Hindsdale so now

17:54

he's ripping Hindsdale. Be careful Carm.

18:00

where all the good restaurants are too. Yes.

18:02

Don't they everyone in Western Springs that's where they go.

18:05

But we're to what is a car sponsor?

18:08

What does he endorse? Where's

18:11

he always said what part? And what part? So

18:13

he's going down with parking. He does. He better

18:16

say now. What? Because now

18:18

welcome. They don't want they

18:20

don't want Carmen anymore. Or there's gonna

18:22

be I think there's gonna be some

18:24

sort of a showdown this weekend at the park. Oh,

18:27

yeah. Oh, yeah. So

18:30

there's people in their 1980s

18:32

Michael Jordan shorts playing pickle

18:35

up against all the dads with their

18:37

beer bellies and holding their disguising their

18:39

beer and their cozy at their kids games. Oh,

18:41

yeah. Where their coaches shorts. Oh, with

18:44

their coaches shorts. Some of them still wear their baseballs. They're

18:46

going. They're going. Oh,

18:49

yeah. Oh, yeah. A couple of them wear

18:51

their sleeveless shirts. Hats turned backwards

18:53

ready to argue. I love how he goes.

18:56

I just find it interesting a guy from

18:58

Hinsdale and a guy whose gardener was there.

19:00

I think Carmen's gonna put on the eye

19:02

black for this Saturday. Oh, yeah. There's

19:05

gonna be a showdown. Yep. And

19:07

I may I may ditch my kids games

19:09

just to watch just go to Western

19:11

Springs. I know. I

19:16

would but my kids got graduation in

19:19

Austin, Texas. Blow it off. I'm

19:21

really sorry, Carmen, if you think that that's like a

19:23

rich person school. Yeah.

19:26

How dare you ever send your your child

19:28

to college? Oh, that's a man of the

19:30

people. That's a rich person. Carmen is a

19:32

man of the people. Look

19:34

at that. Look at

19:37

that. All right. Three one two three

19:39

three two three seven seven six. I don't know how we got here.

19:41

But I know. But look at the phone line.

19:44

And I got to say I've surely enjoyed it.

19:46

I really have. It was a nice little break.

19:49

I texted you guys. I was like, I have no

19:51

idea what we're doing today. I'm

19:53

like, and you guys were giving me a hard time. You're like,

19:55

oh, it's our baseball bonanza. And I was like, oh, boy, we were

19:57

we were good. Big

20:00

Cat's gonna join us at four o'clock. I've got

20:02

a beef to settle with Big Cat too So

20:05

I wore my Duke shirt today if he

20:08

hates Duke. I'm team John

20:10

Shire You know Shire's a great guy or

20:12

friend of mine So I support

20:14

Duke who went to our first Duke game somewhere

20:16

in my Duke sweatshirt today He'll

20:19

join us coming up at four o'clock. I've got

20:21

a poll question I want you guys to weigh

20:23

in on we do want to talk about the

20:25

bear stadium situation There's a good

20:27

topic too that I'm interested in getting

20:29

your thoughts on on streaming Peggy I

20:31

think you'll be very good as a

20:33

someone who's been in the television Industry

20:36

for now what 60 years?

20:38

Yeah, that how long you've

20:41

been on TV? Yeah funny. It's waddle and

20:43

soapy Peggy's in for waddle ESPN

20:47

Chicago's coverage of the 2024 football

20:49

schedule release is presented by

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20:56

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studio to your hellish commute home.

21:01

We're there with you making it

21:04

bearable Never

21:08

mind back to one with Sylvie

21:10

on ESPN Chicago We've

21:18

had a great spring the thing that I

21:20

probably and I whine about a lot of

21:23

stuff the thing I whine

21:25

about probably the most these days is

21:28

No more Springs in Chicago and we

21:30

have not had like April

21:32

and May from when we were kids are

21:34

no more that it just goes from winter

21:37

to summer We like April

21:39

and May's are now rainy

21:41

and cold We have

21:44

been blessed with even though it's

21:46

rain sure, but we've been given these 70

21:48

degree days Today's

21:51

80 and gorgeous. I love

21:53

it. I haven't froze

21:55

my ass off at some of these games we've

21:57

been able to get out to Wrigley and Enjoy

22:00

some of these youth sports that I'm sure

22:02

you've been golfing. I played this morning had no

22:04

idea It was going to be as

22:07

nice as it was early. Yeah, and

22:10

I had flax on I had I

22:13

Hi girls. I had flax on I

22:15

had Sleeves on my

22:17

my golf shirt and typically in this

22:20

kind of weather, you know skirt. It's

22:22

awesome. Yes It's fantastic out today. Yeah,

22:24

it's been great Again tomorrow.

22:26

I'm gonna be at slightly toasted 530

22:30

the event starts that's a place in the loop a

22:32

lot of the city people always say hey, what about

22:34

these? Events in the city.

22:36

I know Kevin Warren has been bugging me

22:38

saying we love the city So

22:40

come on out slightly toasted 530

22:44

to borrow I'll be there a little after 6

22:46

when the show ends. It's brought to you by

22:48

Elijah Craig, Kentucky straight bourbon 22

22:50

North Clinton and We'll

22:52

be giving away a couple of spots to

22:55

our golf outing which sold out in a

22:57

mere minutes Here's

22:59

our Twitter poll Danny came up with

23:01

this today Danny

23:03

said because of the

23:05

schedule release which you weren't sure about

23:07

I heard cap was surprised about this,

23:09

too Done. Yeah

23:12

that ever like a lot of

23:14

people Were figuring that

23:16

the schedule was still coming out

23:18

tomorrow and it's it's a couple

23:20

of reasons That people look

23:22

forward to this is a we like to see

23:25

when these games are gonna be played Who

23:27

are they opening against people with season tickets

23:29

like to divvy up? The

23:32

ticket for me. I like

23:34

to plan road trips because right

23:36

away for instance When

23:39

I I knew I was gonna take the boys to

23:41

the Chiefs game last year That I

23:43

knew was going to be a ticket

23:45

a that was gonna be in demand in Kansas

23:48

City Isn't the biggest town

23:50

so hotel rooms get sold

23:52

quickly The day that

23:54

it was announced. I hopped on the

23:56

Marriott app bun boy app and I

23:59

got a room for

24:01

like $300 for a

24:03

suite. Two days later those

24:05

rooms were going for well over $500.

24:07

Right. Just because you know

24:10

the dynamic pricing and if

24:12

you get out in front of it if you jump

24:14

on these things very very early

24:16

so if you're like me you like to

24:19

travel to some of these games you like

24:21

to solidify these rooms quickly. So a lot

24:23

of people thought it was coming out tomorrow

24:26

and they announced it's not coming

24:28

out till Wednesday. So

24:31

Danny said to us and I heard

24:33

Abdallah bring up an interesting point. It's

24:37

even a news story that

24:39

the NFL is delaying the

24:42

schedule release. That's

24:44

a news story that we're

24:46

talking about oh the NFL is

24:48

delaying the schedule release and

24:50

they spend 10 minutes talking about that. That's

24:53

how big the NFL is. So Danny wanted

24:55

to know this and we made it a

24:58

poll question. Right now

25:01

as a Chicago sports fan

25:03

these are some national some

25:05

local stories. What are

25:07

you most interested in? I grouped

25:09

a few of these together and I'm

25:11

getting some flack from some on these

25:15

because I was gonna put A as local

25:17

baseball but I just termed it Cubs and

25:19

White Sox and a lot of people are

25:21

saying why did you put the Cubs and

25:23

the White Sox together? Well because it's local

25:25

Chicago baseball. Yeah. It's our two local baseball

25:28

teams so that's why. So is

25:30

it A Chicago baseball the Cubs and

25:32

the White Sox? Is it B the

25:35

NBA playoffs? Is it

25:37

C the NFL schedule release?

25:40

Or is it D the Stanley

25:42

Cup playoffs slash

25:44

draft? That way

25:47

you're getting the playoffs and possibly some

25:49

in general and right like some black

25:51

Hawks. Yeah. Who are they gonna take

25:53

it number two in there? Yeah. Yeah.

25:56

The Hawks for those who aren't aware

25:58

they had a chance to get the

26:00

number one overall pick. They were put

26:02

in the number two spot. That's where they had

26:05

the best odds. They didn't go down, they didn't

26:07

go up. They got the number two spot. Which

26:09

is amazing. Yeah. I mean they're

26:11

going to get a very, very quality player

26:13

which is exciting for them and I have

26:16

to say I actually was

26:18

paying attention last night even though I was

26:20

out to dinner, family dinner for someone's birthday

26:22

and I was looking around trying to say

26:25

oh do they have the NHL

26:27

lottery on. So I was interested

26:29

in that but for me it's

26:31

definitely the NFL schedule release. I

26:34

mean we plan. We know that

26:36

the Bears are headed to London and

26:38

our group of friends tries

26:40

to plan on going on a

26:43

Bears trip. So every

26:46

year groups of friends will pick a

26:48

game. So everyone wants to go to

26:50

London. So yeah we're like waiting because

26:52

we want to get our airline ticket. Your dates.

26:54

You don't know the date yet or

26:57

do you kind of? I kind of. Do you have

26:59

an inside scope? Maybe. Hmm. Maybe.

27:02

But October right?

27:05

I would assume. Yeah. I

27:07

would assume. But you know we

27:09

want to get our tickets and it's just like you know

27:11

like every time the Bears are playing Tampa. That

27:14

was a big road trip game. You want to

27:16

get your tickets. You want to get your lock

27:18

in a good price for your airline tickets and

27:20

get your hotel rooms. So yeah it's like it's

27:22

like a vacation trip. Well

27:24

for me anymore but yeah. Yeah well

27:26

still you could still enjoy it and

27:28

then do the post game show. Yeah.

27:31

So what do you think? Did you

27:33

peek? I know I have not seen

27:35

it. Boys did you guys peek? Like

27:37

cause Danny believes that out of everything

27:40

going on currently for the Chicago sports

27:42

fan that the

27:44

schedule release with the Bears

27:46

being good again and then

27:49

Contending for a playoff spot that

27:52

the schedule release will be what

27:54

your what Chicago sports fans are

27:56

most interested in. This Simple thing

27:59

of. The Nfl really

28:01

saying is this: schedule. Will.

28:03

Be what people are most interested in

28:05

do did you guys look I saw

28:07

when I vote on that Mel I

28:10

dunno I have now case of had

28:12

these and Mellor das how this is

28:14

going again it's local baseball it's and

28:16

be a plus we have some. You

28:19

have a couple of really fun stories

28:21

in there jail and Bransons. A really

28:23

good stories on what Oklahoma City's a

28:26

really of really fun stories, What Minnesota's

28:28

and the Timberwolves are doing is a

28:30

really fun story. There's some good stuff

28:32

going on there on the Nhl playoffs,

28:35

Stanley Cup last and the Hawks and

28:37

and of course the Cubs are tied

28:39

for first place. Other than

28:42

we group did. And for Chicago local baseball, what

28:44

do you think is leading the way. We've.

28:46

Had over two thousand votes. Oh

28:48

wow. Kneller. I'll let

28:50

you go first. Boy. S

28:53

this is. I'm not sure I'm

28:55

not either. I

28:57

don't like like I were all. Interested

29:00

in the Nfl schedule release pattern of it's

29:02

Is It Like I said we sorry the

29:05

my. Is because we carry the games.

29:07

Know I feel these radical Sylvie laid it

29:09

out like if you're a Bears fan, a

29:11

lot of people are interested because they're planning

29:14

a what road trip to I am. I

29:16

do this year in a which cities fall

29:18

in a good spot and yells based on

29:20

my work schedule like my kids' school schedules.

29:22

A all that stuff comes into place but

29:24

I don't know for Trump's be Me and

29:27

maybe this is my own bias like the

29:29

N B A playoffs have been asked. You

29:31

know the Timber Wolves have have me like

29:33

I there. Must see Tv right now. So.

29:37

But then the bulls have been off the

29:39

radar. True, it's like be known it's still

29:41

national. Yeah, that's the thing is I don't

29:43

know where to divorce like my own personal

29:46

interest versus what people locally or watching. I

29:48

still think Cubs The Cubs. I think because

29:50

they're playing well I think that's going to

29:52

be the leading vote getter. I I I

29:55

am going to think in terms of the

29:57

excitement of each of their fans, the Bulls

29:59

are. In the N B A

30:01

saw. I'm not putting the N

30:04

B A up there on the

30:06

Blackhawks. While that they have an

30:08

interest in the lottery arm, but

30:11

not enough Blackhawks hands right now.

30:13

Ah, I say. I'm

30:15

going to say I think the

30:17

excitement for Bears fans. Over

30:20

this team. And. A

30:22

Schedule. Ah yes, I am going to

30:24

take the Bears the release of the Nfl. Schedule

30:26

neither of you as wrong as it, you

30:28

guys both. You got wanting

30:30

to. So reading the way

30:32

his local baseball okay of

30:34

the cops love probably is

30:36

woods pushing this in. There are

30:39

still some obviously Sox fans who

30:41

even though they stink. Bomb.

30:44

Wants their team every day like they go

30:46

home and they watch or listen on E

30:48

S P N One Thousand Thirty Nine Point

30:51

Five For some the people say the Cubs

30:53

in the saw okay and then you're not

30:55

far off. Peggy. Thirty Six

30:57

Point Five of the voters

30:59

say the Nfl schedule really

31:01

wow This simple. Scene.

31:04

Of the Nfl telling you we

31:06

know the opponents. All.

31:08

They're doing is telling us the

31:10

order in the dates of when

31:12

they are playing right? That's all

31:14

this announcement as. Think about that

31:16

and there are still thirty six

31:18

point five percent of the people

31:20

who say that is what their

31:22

most interested in in Chicago or.

31:24

Think About this. Only.

31:26

Sixty thousand people can go to

31:28

those home games so that if

31:31

you have access to tickets you

31:33

want to know immediately when they're

31:35

playing or you know when's the

31:38

Jacksonville game out. What when is

31:40

a packer have the same that

31:42

so you this is a very

31:44

few number of available seats so

31:47

the of the interest has like

31:49

oh yeah we gotta try to

31:51

get the tickets. without him without a

31:53

bi week you know like is a good

31:56

a common a good time i read have

31:58

been by so awful the last years

32:00

because they've been so bad. I know a

32:03

lot of people are really interested in the London Week too

32:06

because there's a lot of Ferris fans who are

32:08

like, we want to go to London, but that's

32:10

a huge undertaking and where it falls on the

32:12

calendar could prohibit some people from going. So again,

32:14

about 39% for Cubs and White Sox, 36.6% for

32:16

the NFL schedule release, 13.4% are

32:24

with Miller on their interest in

32:26

the NBA playoffs, but again, quite

32:29

low compared to the two local

32:31

stories, 10.7% to the Stanley Cup

32:33

playoffs. There's now almost 2,200 votes. You

32:36

can vote on my Twitter handle at wattle

32:38

in Sylvie. It's brought to you by your

32:40

local Chicago land, Toyota dealers, Toyota,

32:43

let's go places. It

32:45

really is incredible. Like the grip that the

32:47

NFL has on all of us and it's

32:49

still a week away. It's a week from

32:52

today. So has

32:54

there been any stories about why? I

32:56

think I have a theory as to why they

32:59

have so many different negotiations

33:02

now with so many different

33:04

channels that it's no longer

33:07

just CBS and Fox deciding

33:09

who gets which game and then

33:12

throw in ESPN for the Monday

33:14

night games and then Sunday night

33:16

for NBC. Now

33:19

you have all these streaming

33:21

services that are also in

33:23

these negotiations. I just think

33:25

it's a natural lengthening

33:27

of the negotiation because there's so

33:29

many more players in the game. Yeah. The

33:32

Christmas day games on Wednesday, it's throwing

33:34

a big wrench into things. The

33:36

streaming services boomer as Tyson said today

33:39

that he thinks Netflix, you know, Netflix

33:41

is trying to get more and more

33:43

live events. The Brady Rose. Yeah. They

33:46

have this Tyson fight. They're trying to

33:48

get more live events to having people

33:50

watch things live at a certain time.

33:53

Sporting events are really the only thing that

33:55

you must watch live. They want to get

33:57

in on that game too. something

34:00

that we want to talk about the streaming stuff. If

34:02

you want to weigh in on this 3323776 and

34:05

then Barstool Big Cat will join us coming up at

34:07

4. And coverage of the

34:10

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34:12

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34:28

sports. Alright

34:33

it's the final. The quick

34:35

work. Jeez. Well I guess

34:38

not that quick. The

34:41

Cubs have been shut out by

34:43

the San Diego Padres. They have

34:45

lost 2 of 3 to San

34:47

Diego. 3 to

34:50

nothing. I

34:52

believe they only had one hit on the

34:54

entire day. How about Dylan

34:56

Cease Peggy? Dylan Cease has

34:58

returned to Wrigley. Returned

35:01

to Chicago for the first time since getting

35:03

traded by the White Sox. The

35:06

former Sox pitcher

35:08

and a cup of coffee with the Cubs.

35:11

That's where he started in their minor league system. 7 innings

35:14

today. No runs. One

35:17

hit. 12 strikeouts.

35:21

Wow. 12 strikeouts. 313 pitches. His

35:23

ERA now is 2-1-9. Oh my gosh. He

35:25

improves to 5-2. What

35:31

a year for Dylan Cease

35:33

bouncing back from last year's

35:35

disappointment. That's really amazing.

35:37

That's like Ronaldo Lopez. I

35:40

mean look what happens. You leave the South Side and these

35:43

guys have like clear heads. They're having

35:46

fun again. They're winning. That's really.

35:50

It really sucks to be honest with you.

35:53

It was poison last year. The locker room

35:55

was complete. It was a poison. A poisonous

35:58

locker room last year. here and you're

36:00

seeing it yes and people are

36:03

talking about it on how bad

36:05

it is and it's

36:07

like an interesting debate I heard Cap and hoodie

36:09

talk about it and they had two different sides

36:11

about like do you get

36:13

rid of Grifol because

36:15

some of the younger guys are coming up

36:18

and you may want someone else to develop

36:20

them or do you ride

36:22

this out this year because there's no really

36:24

changing the manager because this is a bigger

36:26

issue than just the manager

36:29

like what's the right way to do it

36:31

mid-season here it's not even mid-season it's

36:34

a month and a half in at

36:36

this point. I think it

36:39

also it gives Chris Getz a year

36:41

to figure out who he wants and

36:43

to bring his guy in that's

36:45

really what it is. It

36:47

makes no there's no no

36:49

reason to do anything during the

36:52

season nothing's going to change you

36:54

know just wait till

36:56

the end of the season and it's going to Chris

36:58

Getz is just going to bring in who he who

37:00

he really wants in there. I heard

37:02

Ozzy ripped him last night

37:05

ripped him ripped the culture and ripped sort of

37:07

like their effort level but anyway back

37:09

to the Cubs so one hit for the

37:11

Cubs the whole day a growing

37:14

problem for them is Ian

37:17

Hap and another thing

37:19

I heard the guys talk about this morning is

37:21

when Seya does come back maybe

37:23

you give Hap a few

37:25

days off like two three days off to

37:28

sort of get out of his own head

37:30

to just kind of exactly take a breath

37:32

maybe the hamstring he had a couple of

37:34

different hamstring injuries one in spring training and

37:37

then he tweaked his hamstring when he first

37:40

started the season Ian Hap

37:43

is now his on base percentage is still okay

37:45

at 346 the problem is

37:47

is his slug and his O.P.S.

37:49

his O.P.S. is about 650 he

37:53

should be well over 800 his slug

37:55

is 302 that's Nick

37:58

Madrigal-esque like That's something that

38:00

Madrigal brings to the table. It's one of the

38:02

lowest on the team. He

38:05

went 0 for 2 today with two

38:07

strikeouts. He's not giving you

38:10

anything. Danz B. Swanson, who homed the

38:12

other day, looked bad

38:14

at the plate again yesterday. It's ground ball

38:16

after ground ball. He was given the day

38:18

off today by Craig

38:21

Townsell. So you've got

38:24

sort of a couple of different issues right now.

38:26

You've got the bullpen issue,

38:28

which showed up yesterday. The council didn't

38:30

trust his bullpen. That's why he had

38:32

to stay with Shoda. Shoda gave up

38:35

the two-run homer to put him

38:37

behind. And then you have

38:40

the bats issue right now, where the bats

38:42

have not really hit. So

38:47

you're just not going to win a lot of

38:49

games, not scoring a lot of runs. And then

38:52

there's so little margin of error for the bullpen.

38:54

They have to be perfect when the starting pitcher

38:56

comes out. I mean, Wisniewski, who

38:59

again started today's game, six innings, three

39:01

earned runs. That's not terrible for Hayden

39:04

Wisniewski. If you tell me Hayden Wisniewski

39:06

is going to give up three runs

39:08

in six innings, that's not

39:10

bad for Hayden Wisniewski for the year

39:13

he's 1-5-9 earned run average. But Cubs

39:15

lose, and now they're going to face

39:17

Paul Skeens coming up, I think, over

39:19

the weekend, who's the top prospect in

39:21

baseball. The Pirates are calling him

39:23

up. So he throws over 100 miles an hour. That

39:27

should be very, very interesting. Oh, good.

39:29

So that's sort of the latest from

39:32

Wrigley Field. The Cubs want to walk

39:34

off yesterday. They're now 22-16 after the loss. And

39:39

still right around first place, but they lose

39:41

two of three to the San Diego Padres

39:44

who have had their number this year. I

39:46

think they went two and four against

39:48

the Padres this year. All right, we're going to talk

39:50

to Barstool, big cat. Got a poem to pick

39:53

with him. That's coming up next.

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