Grant training specialist for ANA (Administration for Native Americans) and Diné (Navajo) educator Rich White joins this episode to share some stories and wisdom on a variety of topics including facing challenges in education, seeking balance in life, and relational knowledge in protocol. We challenge dominant ideas of fixed trajectories, the importance of being flexible and mobile in grey areas, and moving in and out of multiple worlds. In addition, we also reflect on other themes such as land acknowledgements, Boba Fett, research, sacrifice, community, place, and being a critically conscious observer.

Terms: Diné (The People), Hózhó (balance principle, to walk in beauty), Utz Kaslemal (K’iche’/Kaqchikel for live well, good living, buen vivir), matrilineal (kinship based on mother or female lines), matrilocal (societies based or focused on one’s wife’s or mother’s community), ECS (Education, Culture, and Society program at the University of Utah).