0:00

my logic was they would know more

0:02

than me . I found myself in a place

0:04

where my goals were not

0:06

mine and I was falsely chasing

0:08

after other people's goals , like

0:10

the big car , the big house and

0:13

I do want those things and I was

0:15

adopting other people's dreams

0:17

and wishes because I came to realize I didn't

0:20

give enough time for me to do some self-reflection

0:23

and I just steamrolled my way through

0:25

different opportunities and different

0:27

mentors because I thought the

0:29

answer was outside of me .

0:31

Hey everyone , welcome back to the Walk 12 podcast

0:33

. If you're tuning in on YouTube or any of the podcast

0:36

directories , make sure to do us one

0:38

teeny , tiny little favor and make sure to

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give us a follow , because I don't want you to miss

0:42

out on any of the amazing

0:44

guests I got coming on this year . Without further ado

0:46

, let's get right into this one . John , for

0:48

anyone who hasn't had the pleasure or opportunity to

0:50

get to know you , to get to meet you and know who

0:52

you are , man , tell us your quick little

0:54

elevator pitch . Man , who are you and what do

0:56

you do ?

0:58

I'm just a dude man . Just a dude on the street

1:00

Just walking by .

1:02

Nice and simple .

1:04

I mean a little bit about me . I'm a podcast

1:06

host and immersive

1:10

meditation guide coach

1:12

. So my

1:15

challenges have been gaining

1:17

clarity on purpose

1:19

, on drive , and finding that

1:22

confidence to get over some roadblocks

1:24

. And just things come up

1:26

, especially in the world of abundance of

1:28

opportunities , decisions

1:31

. This guru , that guru , who do I follow

1:33

? Where do I put my money ? So I

1:35

help people find clarity , so they can

1:37

have some just

1:39

that clear vision and

1:42

what do you call it , that courage to move forward ?

1:44

All right , that's amazing , brother , and so I

1:46

always like to start off with this question man , take us

1:48

back into time machine . What

1:50

was little John like growing up ?

1:52

Oh , geez , how far

1:54

back do you want to go ? I was confused man . So

1:57

I was born in the Bronx inner

1:59

city , new York , and around like four

2:01

we moved to the suburbs

2:03

of Greenwich , connecticut , so you got like the

2:06

school that has no playground

2:08

and it's just all concrete . And then

2:10

you have Greenwich , where it's like manicured

2:14

lawns , updated

2:16

playgrounds and just

2:19

life . It was like my

2:21

memory of New York was just dark and

2:23

this brick and stone building , and then

2:25

Greenwich was just this bright colored place

2:28

with like green walls and people

2:30

that love their job , and

2:33

so it was a culture shock for me

2:35

, because I had this attitude as

2:38

a kid that was ready to fight , because in

2:40

New York I was ready

2:42

. I saw people fighting every day in the cafeteria

2:44

and it was grades like six through

2:47

12 or like it was like junior , high

2:49

and high school all mixed in one . It was nuts . Actually

2:53

I was like five first . It

2:55

was like first . It was like first

2:57

through , like six , anyway , like through nine , whatever

3:00

it was . Just there's a lot of people , one building

3:02

, just put it that way . And then

3:04

, and Greenwich , everything's nice and split

3:06

up and whatnot in Connecticut . So

3:09

you know , just going from there it was more

3:11

of like what's going on , why is

3:13

this ? I saw a family that's

3:15

in New York that is very just has

3:19

that New York mentality and

3:21

they were able to get out into the suburbs and I just

3:23

saw the difference in mind set

3:25

where the inner city was the

3:27

why me and a lot of frustration

3:30

. And then the suburbs was like why

3:32

not , and what are we going to do next and let's have

3:34

some fun . And so I

3:36

had this attitude and people like chill , bro

3:38

, chill . And I

3:41

had to just adapt , adapt and that really

3:43

started my journey on figuring out , like why

3:45

people are different and

3:48

just the power of your perspective . That

3:50

just pretty much followed me through . You

3:53

know , moving forward in life and having

3:55

a single mom and being her like best

3:57

friend and thinking adult thought , adult

4:00

thoughts as a young

4:02

kid and having those

4:04

thoughts and just being

4:06

bombarded with trying to be a kid

4:08

at the same time having these adult

4:11

conversations with my mom . So it

4:13

was definitely

4:15

confusing and set a time of self

4:17

reflection .

4:18

So take us through that a little bit deeper

4:20

man . So you came from the Bronx

4:22

where everything is like hood , ready to brawl , everyone

4:24

is , like you know

4:26

, has it out for you almost . And then you move to

4:28

the burbs and now you're also now

4:30

you're also living with your single mom as well , and so

4:33

you're pretty much almost

4:36

forced to become a man a lot sooner . You

4:38

become the man of the household , because that

4:40

role was absent at a very young age . So

4:42

you had to fill in those shoes . But then you

4:44

also had to be a kid and enjoy your life . So

4:47

what was it like your high school years , man ? What was

4:49

it ? You said a lot of reflection . I feel like myself

4:51

. I always felt like I had an old soul . So it's like

4:53

for me although I knew a lot of people at

4:55

school a lot of people there wasn't too many

4:57

people that could really sit down and have a deep

4:59

, deep talk with . Like people that have

5:01

deep conversations with , I always been a sucker for

5:03

deep talking . It's ironic that or not

5:06

ironic , but it's like it's not surprising that I

5:08

ended up doing podcasting , even though I didn't even know

5:10

what a podcast was back then and

5:12

I was in high school . But , man , it's

5:14

conversations that I was always

5:17

striving for but never able

5:19

to have , because not that

5:21

I was the smartest person in school

5:23

. It's just like my outlook

5:25

and perspective on life was so different than

5:27

the vast majority of all the people in my age , so it's

5:29

like it was hard to , as I

5:31

said , really find people to have deep talks with . So what was

5:33

that like for you navigating high school in that

5:35

age range , I guess ?

5:38

It was well one . People were

5:40

segregated by

5:42

just their interests in high school

5:45

. So you

5:47

have your emu crowd and then you

5:49

had your athletes , and then you have your

5:51

Hispanics and a lot of soccer , and

5:54

then you got your hip hop crew

5:56

and then you have like everybody

5:58

in between , and that was actually a

6:00

little bit of everything . Yeah

6:03

, I honestly hung out

6:05

more in the hood area , ironically

6:07

, just because on a deeper

6:10

level I felt connected , because I

6:12

just know what it's like to come from that background

6:14

. And then what

6:16

really helped me just find those connections

6:19

was I got into dance . That was

6:21

like I imagine you have your mom

6:23

that's having adult conversations with you , and then you have

6:25

your friends that are having like

6:28

just these young conversations . And

6:31

I became very like just a

6:33

mental dude . My mom called me the mental

6:35

midget , where

6:37

she was like look , there's kids playing

6:39

football and I'm like that's

6:41

not to offend anybody playing

6:43

football . I actually ended up playing football but I was

6:45

like why ? So I can just run

6:47

into people and get like a , like a concussion

6:50

, like that's just idiot , like why would I do

6:52

that ? Like it just didn't make logical

6:54

sense . And so

6:57

I was just very mental . So

6:59

an outlet for me was

7:02

dance . I got into break dancing and that

7:04

really was able to help me connect to my

7:06

roots but at the same time bring it to the present

7:08

day , and it was just a cool thing that was accepted

7:10

. As far as , like deep conversations

7:13

, a friend of mine used to say everybody

7:15

has their own planet , that

7:17

they live on right , some people are Mars

7:20

and you got whatever . And he said

7:22

Jonathan's planet is just a little bit further

7:24

than the rest . Because the stuff

7:26

that I like to talk about were the stuff that I

7:29

had questions around and that's why I have my podcast

7:31

around these subject matter which is like the

7:33

why is the metaphysical , like

7:36

this , like journey into space

7:38

? Are there other

7:40

civilizations out there ? People

7:44

, can you read minds ? I would like to understand

7:46

how to levitate stuff . I was interested in

7:48

those things and I had very few people

7:50

to talk about , so that was

7:52

just in the soup mix of the

7:55

chaos in my head , so I would just not

7:58

talk as much and when I would talk it

8:00

would just be just to kind of fill the space

8:02

.

8:02

If someone asked me a question , yeah , Now

8:06

, before we move on , I

8:08

think the part about running into people . I

8:11

think that's probably like the midget side talking . That's

8:13

probably why you didn't resonate with football . But

8:17

guys , I know John , so I could say that .

8:20

So midget , because I was like a toddler

8:22

. That's why .

8:23

I am short but , guys

8:26

, John is a reasonable height . He can reach

8:29

the cabinet without a stool .

8:30

Exactly Most of them .

8:32

And most right Depends on which shelf

8:34

in the cabinet . Right , yeah , but

8:37

so take us a little bit further . So you got into

8:39

breakdance and then after high

8:41

school , what was like life like ? Did you take the traditional

8:43

track ? Did you end up working ? What

8:46

was that like after high school ? Did

8:48

you just get right into pretty much adulthood and

8:50

it's like , okay , I have to get a job and

8:52

start paying bills , paying my rent , helping my mom out around the

8:54

house . Like where did you end up going after high school

8:56

?

8:57

So my mother remarried , actually

9:00

shortly after we moved , but it was always

9:02

just her and I . And then , like

9:04

the step dad , when

9:07

I got out of high school , I

9:11

started working at a grocery store and

9:15

I was going to school and I was studying psychology

9:17

because I really wasn't sure what to do . I knew

9:19

I wanted to help people and something with the mind

9:21

right . And

9:25

then I got into my

9:27

first experience with entrepreneurship

9:30

when I was 19

9:32

, going into 20 actually , and it

9:34

was network marketing . A friend of mine was

9:36

like hey , a couple of times , like

9:39

hey , check out this project I'm doing , it's a great opportunity

9:41

. And for some reason I'm just like it just

9:43

goes over my head . Because I'm 19 years old , I'm thinking

9:45

about other stuff . I'm thinking about

9:47

19 year old stuff , whether

9:51

it be like this , just

9:53

like this , whether I'm trying to remember what I was

9:55

into . I mean , I was all into dance

9:57

, going to the club , hanging out with friends , not

10:00

thinking about , like , my future .

10:02

sadly enough , I wasn't like

10:04

you Ages ago , right Like ages and

10:06

ages ago right , yeah .

10:09

No , not too far away , but yeah

10:11

, it was a while back , but anyways , so

10:14

it wasn't . Until he comes back to me and he's like

10:16

, hey , I'm going to Vegas

10:18

and I got some ladies

10:20

I want to introduce you to , and

10:22

it happens to be a business trip

10:25

. And so that piqued my interest

10:27

, because at that time I just broke up with my ex

10:29

. I was like , yeah , let's just , I just need to get my

10:31

mind off of this . So I'm out , let's just

10:33

go show me some pictures , who do you

10:35

know , before I even invest . And

10:38

then he's like , yeah , these are my friends , there

10:41

are these decent people . It's

10:43

business , all right , let's do it . Opportunities

10:47

to make some money and opportunities to meet some

10:50

ladies , pretty much . And the

10:52

rest was history , because I went to Vegas

10:55

and I met a lot of very interesting people , a

10:57

lot of perspective on life

10:59

, leadership . It

11:01

was just a lot of stuff that someone who was very mental

11:03

, right Mindful , would appreciate

11:06

. So I was introduced to books by

11:08

John C Waxwell , maxwell

11:11

, thinking , bro , rich

11:13

, by Napoleon Hill , those books

11:15

, and so it set me on that trajectory

11:18

to be mindful and to really

11:20

push for entrepreneurship . But , as

11:23

the story goes , my mind had gotten ahead of me

11:25

, and I was falling

11:27

into the trap of chasing other people's dreams because

11:30

I didn't give myself a chance to identify

11:32

my own .

11:34

Mmm . So

11:38

how do you break free from that ?

11:41

Well , I'll tell you what happened

11:43

. I had

11:45

mentors and

11:48

I would ask the same questions over

11:51

and over again and then I would

11:53

question the questions . So

11:55

I found myself in

11:57

a place where my

12:00

goals were not mine and

12:03

I was falsely

12:05

chasing after other people's goals , like

12:08

the big car , the big house and

12:11

I do want those things and I was

12:13

adopting other people's dreams

12:16

and wishes . Because I

12:18

came to realize I didn't give enough time

12:20

for me to do some self-reflection

12:23

and I just steamrolled my way

12:25

through these different

12:27

opportunities and different

12:29

mentors because I thought

12:31

the answer was outside of me . If someone

12:34

was able to achieve something that I haven't

12:36

yet already , my

12:38

logic was they would know more

12:41

than me . How am I to

12:43

know all the answers if I haven't done it

12:45

? Think of Albert Einstein

12:47

the same mind that created the problem can't

12:49

create the solution . But

12:52

my argument nowadays is yes

12:54

, that is true , but there's different levels

12:56

of consciousness that you move into as

12:59

you grow up as a person . So the person today

13:01

is a different person than yesterday . And

13:03

as you grow into more self-awareness

13:07

, the more aware you are of yourself

13:09

, the more you evolve . Your consciousness is and

13:11

is now is a different

13:14

mind . Specifically

13:16

that's going to help you find

13:18

your solutions . So what ended up happening to me was people

13:20

were telling me going back to

13:22

what I was saying before . I

13:24

had mentors , I had gurus , whatever . And

13:27

they kept on saying Jonathan , you're

13:29

thinking too much , you're overthinking of it

13:31

, you're thinking about it , get out of your head

13:33

, get out of your head . And that's all

13:35

I heard . So I was like then I adopted

13:37

that belief I'm overthinking , I'm

13:39

overthinking and as you wish , as

13:42

you say , was it your wish , is

13:44

my command . Your subconscious is like well

13:47

, if you say so , then that's your reality

13:49

. Poof . And it wasn't

13:51

until I found myself in the

13:54

kitchen looking at what I'm

13:56

going to eat and it took me 30

13:58

minutes to figure out what I was

14:00

going to eat , and I had like two options too

14:02

. And I got friends behind me watching TV

14:04

and a whole episode of whatever they were watching

14:06

finished and I was so embarrassed I just walked

14:08

off and started to finish the thought

14:11

process . So that was just like my , like this

14:13

can't happen again . Like I'm at my

14:15

lowest of the low broke

14:17

. No one's willing

14:19

to go out of the way to help me . I

14:22

feel ashamed that constantly

14:24

making the same mistakes , and so I

14:27

took some advice that people

14:29

were telling me for years and that's meditate

14:31

. And my thought I had

14:34

this fear of meditation . I was like

14:36

, if I meditate

14:38

, I have to shut everything down

14:40

, right , I have to quiet the mind . And so I thought I

14:42

was going to die because , logically

14:45

, if you stop thinking , what's going to start

14:47

you thinking again , right , I

14:49

thought I was just going to be like on the floor

14:51

just staring into space and then

14:53

be wheeled into one of those psychiatric

14:57

rewards , right ? So I

14:59

went to , you know , youtube University

15:01

and I Googled it and I'm like you know different steps

15:03

on meditation and I started

15:05

with like five seconds of just quietness

15:08

and then 10 seconds

15:10

and I just doubled it from there and

15:12

I got to the point where I would sit in silence

15:15

for 15 minutes . There's still stuff going on

15:17

in my head , but those

15:19

thoughts were more intimate thoughts

15:21

and I was able

15:23

to see the more deep

15:26

level thoughts that I've been just

15:28

avoiding because I'm constantly searching outside

15:31

of me . And one

15:33

thing that you'll appreciate that happened right afterwards

15:35

was maybe a couple

15:37

of days after I started really getting to meditation

15:40

of like 15 minutes

15:42

or more . There

15:44

was a point where there was a couple of us . You know how you're

15:46

talking with your boys and you're in a circle and

15:49

everybody's just exchanging thoughts and ideas . So

15:51

I'm listening and

15:53

person A is thinking , saying

15:56

one thing , and then I think of a response

15:58

, and then person B says

16:00

my thoughts out loud

16:02

. I'm like that was coincidence

16:04

, but it kept happening . And I'm like whoa

16:07

, did I just open up to something ? And

16:09

what that's pretty much called is the collective

16:12

consciousness , and there's different levels of that . Right

16:14

. There's like think of towns and whatnot , and

16:17

the more , in my opinion , the more elevated you are

16:19

as an individual , the more you'll

16:21

be able to pull in , and it works

16:23

. It's a two-way road too , and we're

16:25

all we're all sharing this . Sorry

16:27

if I'm getting a little deep here , but that

16:30

is an experience that I had , yeah .

16:34

That's what I was going to say , because

16:36

I mean from what I heard it , because

16:38

we're all one in the body of Christ . It's

16:40

like different wording and terminology , I guess

16:42

, from different , I guess , viewpoints of life , One's

16:45

more like New Age and more modern , One's

16:48

more Christian , but it's all

16:50

the same thing . We're all one and that's

16:52

why I . There's a quote . I love man . It talks about how

16:55

the wise

16:57

divide themselves amongst the wise

16:59

and the fools . The fools divide

17:01

themselves amongst race , gender

17:04

, religion , socioeconomic status

17:06

, sex , you

17:08

know , whatever you want . The list goes on and I

17:11

feel like nowadays in the West , the list just keeps

17:13

on growing and growing and growing . Man , at this point

17:15

, man , it's insane . It's like

17:17

they just find more and

17:19

more ways to divide

17:21

us and amongst ourselves

17:23

. And for me , so

17:25

I always been the person

17:27

and I jokingly

17:30

say that's a superpower , because like I

17:32

can't turn it on , but like

17:35

I'm aware that I'm doing it . It's

17:37

kind of weird to explain to like anytime to

17:39

say my girl or

17:42

was like thinking of me , I'll

17:45

call her . And then

17:47

she was like get out of my head , it's like

17:49

. It's like she was like

17:51

get out of my head , john , like what are you doing ? It

17:54

was like how do you know ? It's like I know , don't

17:57

ask questions . You can't understand

17:59

, in human understanding , the ways

18:02

of the world , like there's

18:04

only so much explaining that we could do . I feel like a lot

18:06

of the stuff that we have , for example , like times , a man made

18:08

contract , I feel , and I feel like a lot of these

18:10

constructs are , we have

18:12

a limited understanding because of the plane

18:14

we're on and so we're trying

18:17

to discuss things of other planes with

18:20

the understanding and knowledge

18:22

that we have from this one , it'll

18:24

never , ever work . This is why I came

18:26

to the realization this year you'll only

18:28

ever find the truth of life on the other

18:30

side of life . That is the only

18:33

way . I don't think one

18:35

, and if someone

18:37

does come across , aside from

18:39

me I believe Jesus Christ , but aside from

18:41

him I don't think anyone will

18:43

ever , ever understand

18:46

the truth of life until they make it

18:48

to the other side . It's like , unless you're

18:50

willing to sacrifice your life to find the answer

18:52

, then it's like well , one

18:54

, you should probably talk to somebody first , cuz it's

18:57

never that deep man , never that deep

18:59

. We don't have to know me in too much reverse

19:01

to find the truth . But you know , one of those things

19:03

was like , and that stuff like that happens

19:05

to me all the time . It's like I

19:07

just know and it's like I

19:09

get any states , almost like these

19:12

enlightened states . It's

19:15

just like man , my creativity , just like

19:17

I'm in another dimension

19:19

. It feels sometimes like and the inspiration

19:22

I just get tapped in and it started

19:24

coming like for me . We had a speaker , school mastermind

19:26

about two weeks ago , from the time we were recording

19:28

this and like , the night before I Hopped

19:31

out the shower , man , I didn't even start drying up , bro

19:33

, I just had my towel around me and

19:35

I sat down and I was like bro , I got an idea for

19:37

a keynote and since I 10 30

19:39

at night , I'm supposed to be getting ready because I had to drive into

19:41

the City in the morning and I just got . I

19:43

got this idea for a keynote man . I was up for like

19:45

two hours almost . I ended up not

19:47

sleeping at a time night . Almost . It was really like in

19:50

, not asleep . But , like you know , the , the

19:52

creativity is just like Bro

19:54

, it would just come in to me and it's like it

19:56

helps so much from my entrepreneurial stuff just being

19:58

a visionary , just like If

20:01

you give me a little something , something

20:03

like I'll take that and spin it into a

20:05

bunch of different ways , and like my thoughts were turning to own

20:07

thoughts and like almost like this massive

20:10

, like little ripple effect of just thoughts just start

20:12

Building my brains . It's like it's

20:15

been helping me out at times . It's like , how's that stuff

20:17

for you ? I helped out with your business

20:19

and podcast and everything going

20:21

on .

20:22

You were hopped out of the shower , right , and I joke

20:24

around with people , like you know , the quote-unquote

20:26

shower thoughts you get times

20:28

of .

20:30

Yeah , shower and , I think , walking . I

20:32

think at least those are my two shower

20:34

and walking alone .

20:35

I'm always by myself and a lot

20:37

of people that I've seen don't want

20:40

to be by themselves . Right , they want to face

20:42

their Whatever they're facing

20:45

really . And it's in facing those things

20:47

if you haven't already , you're gonna need to because

20:49

that's what's stopping you from getting

20:51

to that creative flow that you're talking

20:53

about . And I had to face a lot of things

20:55

for myself and I did that through meditation

20:58

and just things

21:00

come up that I'm like you know what I should

21:02

address , that I should call that person , I

21:04

should handle this thing , and if

21:07

I have a , let's say , a

21:09

tension between somebody , I'll just address it

21:11

, but really realizing that it's not

21:13

me , it's . If it continues , it's , it's

21:15

them , it's not me , and I'll do the best that

21:17

I can . But really just kind of facing yourself

21:19

and spending more time with yourself , that's has

21:21

, that has happened . That has helped me the

21:23

most . So some things on

21:26

top of that , like a good slew

21:28

of things . It would be hiking right

21:30

, getting around nature , the

21:32

body , where we're

21:34

surrounded by technology and electronics

21:37

all day , every day , and all

21:39

those electronics . Electronics emits

21:42

positive ions and

21:44

the planet is a

21:47

negative ion generator . And Well

21:50

, I say ions and positives because

21:53

you need to purge yourself of those

21:55

positive ions . It's just it's is

21:57

causing chaos in your body , physically and

21:59

mentally , and and that's why you you

22:02

get fuzzy a lot of the times . So when

22:04

you go out in nature , it's the breath of the fresh

22:06

air , it's just this natural

22:08

aspect of it that your body knows

22:10

that this is right and it gives it a chance

22:13

to reset to zero so

22:15

that you can be yourself again . So

22:17

, like waterfalls , lots

22:20

of negative ions , walking barefoot , lots

22:22

of negative ions . When I'm stressed and

22:24

my wife's stress , we go to the beach because

22:26

in nearby we walk barefoot and

22:29

we listen to the . The waves crash . You

22:32

know it's getting sleep too . As

22:34

an entrepreneur , sometimes you feel the need

22:36

to sacrifice a lot of sleep , like what you

22:39

did , and once in a while is fine . But

22:41

it's that click , the clarity

22:43

of mind , that you need to maintain , in

22:45

my opinion , because that's where you

22:47

get all your ideas . And if you're , if

22:49

you think about it , you're like , oh , but I'm Grinding

22:52

, I'm getting through it and you're trying to get ahead , but

22:54

ironically is taking

22:56

you longer To

22:59

get ahead because you're not working with a clear mind

23:01

. You can solve so many problems on a clear

23:03

mind . So those are some of the

23:05

things that I do like just grounding myself

23:07

, meditation , getting

23:09

some sleep and being in nature , all

23:12

right , just being in contact with yourself .

23:18

So let's be clear , I

23:20

wanted to sleep . It wasn't my doing , but

23:22

my brain wouldn't let me man . The

23:26

thoughts were coming in , bro . I was just like damn whatever

23:29

, man , let me see what I can do . Man , let's see what I can bang

23:31

out . But 100% , on

23:33

a good night's rest I could do a whole lot . The

23:36

way my brain works is

23:39

like a lot of people feel to

23:41

realize how powerful the brain

24:12

truly is and we really sell

24:14

ourselves short , not just in

24:17

business , but in all areas of life . We could really take

24:19

on a lot . I asked her . She says this one quote

24:21

and it was like I love working hard because

24:24

it reminds me how far I can actually

24:26

can go , and just like or

24:28

something like that , like how much my body's actually able

24:30

to endure without

24:32

breaking or falling apart , and just

24:34

like . And every time it works hard , it's like he

24:37

realizes there's another level he could have tapped into

24:39

, another gear he could have shifted into

24:41

or to work even harder , and

24:44

so a lot of stuff . You

24:47

mentioned sacrifice . Then I

24:49

doubt that his mind said I had this cool guy interview me . He

24:51

actually probably would be a dope podcast

24:53

interview for you . His name is Vic Manzo . I think it's like episode

24:56

34 , but he's big into quantum , like really

24:58

big into quantum laws and

25:00

when I'm telling you he understands it . Like everyone

25:03

talks about , like the law of attraction , blah , blah

25:05

, blah , blah . But he's like , nah , there's like it

25:07

works in threes . So like the law of vibration

25:09

goes into the law of attraction , which then leads into the

25:11

law of manifestation , and like

25:13

he just had a very

25:16

good way of like breaking it all down

25:18

and making sense of it all . But

25:20

it sounded too like we were

25:22

out of this world , like other world or

25:24

whatever . So he was definitely a dope person to

25:26

talk to . One of the things he mentioned was the law of non-sacrifice

25:29

and how , when you choose

25:31

what you love to do in life , you're

25:34

never , ever in sacrifice . Sacrifice

25:36

is a scarcity minded term . You're

25:39

giving something up . When you're

25:41

an abundance of abundance , there's

25:43

nothing that needs to be given up , there's enough of everything

25:46

Right . And so it's like when

25:48

you adopt that mindset , it's not saying

25:50

that , oh , you

25:53

don't have to choose one thing over the other , you

25:56

do have to choose some things over other things

25:58

. Whereas one mindset views

26:00

it half empty , the other

26:03

views it half full . The side

26:05

that says , oh , I got to sacrifice

26:07

eating candy so I can get abs

26:09

. The other side says I

26:12

get to have abs Eating

26:15

candy , who cares ? I

26:17

love that . I'm treating what I love to do . And the same thing with

26:19

marriage you don't get to the altar . Hopefully

26:23

you don't get to the altar . Hopefully you don't get to the altar

26:25

and say , damn , there's

26:28

a lot of bad joints I could have ended up with

26:30

and I'm choosing this one to spend the rest

26:32

of my life with . Hopefully that's not running in your mind

26:34

, but most of the time at

26:36

least . If you marry the one you're thinking like

26:38

oh , my goodness , I'm so grateful

26:41

I get to spend the rest of my life with the person

26:43

I love the most , and that's like

26:45

the law of non-sacrifice in action , essentially

26:48

. And adopting that mindset of

26:50

being grateful and choosing

26:52

what you love to do , and

26:54

not talking about what you're losing out on , because

26:57

you're not really losing out on if you're

26:59

choosing what you love to do .

27:00

The day around sacrifice and

27:02

the mindset of abundance and that

27:06

concept , like you said , sacrifice

27:09

with the language you're spelling

27:11

it differently , you're pronouncing it differently . It's

27:14

just a different flow . When you say it , I'm

27:17

sacrificing , that means you're taking something away

27:19

from yourself . But

27:21

I like to spin it on its head and

27:23

say , instead of sacrifice , say investment

27:25

. I'm investing into this project

27:27

, investing time . I'm sacrificing

27:29

time . I'm investing time into my

27:32

business . I'm investing time into my health

27:34

, because that's just coming

27:36

from a place where you have an abundance of time

27:38

and you're choosing where to put it so

27:40

that it will grow , versus chopping

27:43

off a part of myself and hopefully

27:45

that turns into something and I'm just going to walk away

27:47

with one arm now .

27:53

So let me ask you , man , so you're someone who is

27:55

very mindful what do you

27:57

do on a day ? Is that it kind of

27:59

goes all out of the window and you're

28:01

just kind of like at ground zero and like

28:04

what do you do ? To remind yourself of who

28:07

you are .

28:07

There's a couple of things you can do . Some

28:09

of the things that I've done is really breath

28:12

work , slow breaths . There's

28:15

something called box breathing , where

28:17

it's four , you count four

28:19

seconds in , four

28:21

seconds out , and if you

28:24

keep that motion , just like

28:26

, keep it even you're going to naturally

28:28

slow down . Also

28:31

, you know , I do some momentary meditations

28:33

for myself and for others , to help

28:35

just collect . When I'm having a conversation

28:37

with somebody , whether I'm coaching or just in general

28:40

, I'll have I

28:42

noticed that the conversation is going this way and they're

28:44

just like just lost . A lot of times

28:46

this happens to us , right , if you do a momentary

28:48

meditation just brings the body into

28:50

itself again instead of being scattered , and

28:53

it's a . It's a transformational experience

28:55

for the physical body so that you're not in that

28:57

fight or flight mode . So what you're

28:59

talking about is what happens when

29:02

you know shit hits the fan

29:04

and you're just like I'm

29:06

SOL , like this is it , I should

29:08

give up . It's like no , no , because

29:11

you're falling into that fighter flight mode . And if you're

29:13

aware of that and then start to pull from

29:15

the different things that you know , they get you into

29:17

more confidence and relax . They're like you know , I don't

29:19

make any decisions when I'm emotionally

29:22

compromised , right . So again

29:25

, go , go for a walk by yourself If

29:27

you have a dog or a cat . You

29:29

don't , people don't walk cats , but you know , like you have a dog

29:31

, go out and walk your dog . Right , look

29:33

at your dog , spend time with dogs are

29:35

actually really good because they just they love you

29:38

so much unconditionally and

29:40

if you reciprocate that and you just do that

29:42

little small loop with them , it

29:44

helps people a lot . That's why people , especially

29:46

if they live by themselves , they have a pet

29:49

, right . So walks

29:51

, pets , meditation

29:54

, guided meditation if you're not used

29:56

to meditating by yourself , but

29:58

don't be very wary of

30:01

what you call

30:03

them . Distractions right

30:05

. A video game to distract yourself

30:08

, a movie to distract yourself

30:10

, complaining to

30:12

someone as a distraction . There's

30:14

venting and then there's complaining , right . So

30:17

you know , be very familiar with the difference

30:19

of the two and really just find

30:21

that list of things that works for you to

30:24

reconnect with yourself . So , like

30:26

, like I do what I told you before

30:28

we go to the beach lately

30:31

, as at the time of recording

30:33

, there's been a lot of new projects happening

30:35

that I'm excited about , but I got to collect

30:37

myself and so I don't get lost into all

30:40

the shiny squirrels or the

30:42

oh shoot , there's a squirrel , I'll be right back

30:45

. Shiny objects and squirrels .

30:47

Shiny objects and squirrels yeah .

30:49

I kind of mixed the two together . But yeah , just

30:51

leave the squirrels where they are , They'll

30:54

find their nuts , you know the shiny objects

30:56

they'll be , they'll still be

30:58

there . And just go to the , just go to the water

31:00

. Right , Go to your quiet place , Find

31:03

your quiet place .

31:05

Yeah , there's

31:08

a

31:10

saying that's like if it's opportunities

31:12

not available for you in like 24

31:15

hours , it's like don't

31:17

, don't , it wasn't for you , right

31:20

? But it's like yes and no , because

31:22

you have to take , you know , jump on opportunities

31:24

when they're presented , because some opportunities

31:26

only ever come around once . But then also

31:28

, I think the context that they were saying in

31:30

is like don't feel rushed

31:33

into doing something if

31:35

you don't know . If it's 100% , you're certain . Like

31:38

, if it's not an immediate yes , it's

31:40

not the opportunity for you , right , don't

31:43

? You know , don't sweat yourself . This

31:45

is what they call , like , the law of not , like non-action

31:47

, if I'm not mistaken , or just talks

31:49

about like not doing anything that's

31:51

not of natural occurrence , like

31:54

, and it's preserving your energy . And

31:57

when you know something feels right , then

31:59

jump the gun , then go , you know , pull the

32:01

, you know pull the trigger on it and just jump

32:03

all into it . Like , for example , for me , podcasting

32:06

, like I procrastinated for about four

32:08

months until I found the name . But once I found

32:10

the name , that same week I went on Fiverr

32:12

, got myself a logo cover art , dropped my trailer

32:14

like a week after it's like the month

32:16

after that launch of the show . Like . Same thing for

32:19

like , stop us there immediately . Like

32:21

I started getting ads on click funnels and

32:23

from there ended up not working out

32:25

. But I was like , all right , how do I spend

32:27

an opportunity for AI came about , boom , took

32:29

that seen a course on how to use chat GPT

32:31

and the course was created with chat GPT

32:33

two weeks after hosting my first class on

32:35

chat GPT . Using chat GPT to create the class

32:38

, like stuff like that . Like when it's right , I

32:40

get to moving Right , but

32:42

it's knowing when . And getting that muscle

32:45

of knowing when to and when not to jump is

32:47

something that I've been struggling myself because , similar

32:50

to you , like I also get very bad

32:52

shiny object syndrome man , cause

32:54

I'm a visionary , I see all these ideas and when

32:56

you're young and hungry , if you stick with something

32:58

long enough , it'll always be a good idea . So

33:01

every idea almost that comes to me is a good idea

33:03

, cause I know , being young

33:05

, if I just stick with it long enough , it'll work

33:07

out . But it's like I

33:09

can't do everything at the same time , which is like

33:12

also the beauty of life , cause you have to

33:14

be intentional with how you choose .

33:15

You reminded me of the need

33:18

to , and I am trying

33:20

to like , like the thoughts , like it's

33:23

full loading away , it's like a cloud . I'm

33:25

like my hands are going through this cloud . Just

33:28

come back , um , and

33:30

maybe just let it be . That reminds

33:32

me of a book there we go , um , I

33:34

think . I think it was called let it be . And

33:36

then another book power versus force . Really

33:39

good books . If you're trying to flow

33:41

and and get into that flow , keep

33:43

that flow . What is that flow ? Um

33:45

, power versus force , by David

33:48

Hawkins . That

33:50

dude is amazing . Have you read that book

33:52

? Are you ? Are you familiar with it ? He

33:55

is kind of woo-hoo , but he

33:57

gives a logical

34:00

background to

34:02

levels of consciousness and

34:04

what's the difference between approaching

34:07

life by force or approaching

34:09

life by power ? Think of

34:11

, uh , um , love

34:14

, being power and attracting

34:17

the right stuff to you because you're in the right

34:19

flow , because you attract

34:21

the flow , you attract the knowledge

34:23

, you attract the ideas because of the

34:25

states that you're in and controlling

34:28

that state and manicuring

34:30

that state , versus going

34:32

into force , where it's just knowledge

34:34

and awareness of ideas and concepts

34:37

that can get you somewhere and if you

34:39

position it right , you can force it

34:42

to happen for you . And

34:44

so there's two different ways to go about it , but

34:46

the way I'm working on is helping

34:49

people with getting more into that love

34:51

associated , that heart associated

34:53

flow , where it's effortless

34:55

, where ideally you

34:57

don't want people to be upset with you , but you're like that

34:59

person that's quote unquote lucky and

35:02

things just happen for them and people

35:04

, logically , can't make sense

35:06

of that . And a good acronym for luck

35:09

is labor unto correct knowledge

35:11

. You're just in the right place at the end .