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Hey guys , it's The Walking Wall Podcast . I'm your host , Gilon
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Marts . Thank you for watching , thank you for listening
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, thanks for showing up . We're in season seven
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and season seven is all about the wilderness
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, all about spaces that are dry
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, tough , difficult , uncomfortable
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. If there's anything that
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I know about the wilderness , I know how
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it can be a challenge to stay encouraged . It can
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be a challenge to keep the faith , to keep
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your head up , to stay in it , period
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. I just wanted to offer the tools and
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tips and skills that I've gained along
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the way that have been helpful . They
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haven't necessarily made the season
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end , but they've been really great
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at comforting me
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. That whole , my rod , my staff they comfort me . It's
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been kind of like that . We've
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talked about hope . We've talked about participating in our faith
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. We've talked about making peace of time
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. We've talked about a lot of things prayer . Today
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we're actually going to talk about worship
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. One of the things about the wilderness is that
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it can bring you to a place where you question a lot of
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things , where you feel
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like you're unraveling and you are
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. It feels like a melting down
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of the most difficult
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kind
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I know . For me , hitting this pocket , i was like
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what is true ? Who is God ? What is going
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on ? What's up , what's down ? Help
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me . There were a lot of
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things that I was like I don't know about that . I don't know about that . Is
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that still a thing ? Is this real ? Is this true ? All that kind of
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stuff . It's been interesting . I
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feel like the Lord has walked me through this season
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, allowed me to have my questions
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and brought me back to
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center , where things
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needed to be realigned
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. He has definitely sold very much so in the process
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. I'm very much so in the process
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. But man worship is one
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of those things that it just has
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, kind of like your words , has this undeniable
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presence and importance and influence
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in a believer's life . We're
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going to talk about it . We're
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going to talk about it . There are so many scriptures
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that talk about worship . In
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this context , i'm speaking kind of specifically
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around the act of singing
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songs , making melody hymns
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in your heart , even
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congregational spaces , because
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I think there is a part of you in
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the wilderness that can get really bitter , that
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can start to reflect your circumstances and get real dried
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up . You become really short on
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giving God praise . It's kind of
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like you ain't doing what you're supposed
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to be doing . I'm not going to praise you , like
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you out here , doing the thing more and
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more , and
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that is just the worst . It
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is the worst attitude to have , because
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worship , as much as
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it's God word , it does something
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to us , in us , for
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us , and so much
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, like so many of the things
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that so many aspects
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of our faith that God has put in place
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, is a
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benefit to us . Worship is so
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, so much for our own health as much
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as it is for the glory and magnification of the
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Lord . So the first reason to really
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stay up on your worship game and to prioritize
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worship is because it magnifies
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In wilderness spaces . Your attention
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is drawn to all the things that
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are broken , not working
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, not right , and
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that can become your focus . And it becomes
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your focus , it becomes a distraction
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, it becomes in a sense like an idol
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, because it sets a ceiling and a cap for your faith
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, for what can be , for where you can go , for
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what God is and is not going to do . And
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so worship helps kind of bring you back
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around to who actually is God , who
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actually is the author and finisher of your
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faith , who began a thing in you that promised
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that he would fulfill it , that
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he would finish that thing . And so worship
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, especially songs that are about who God
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is , really
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do help kind of highlight , like a magnifying
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glass , the aspects
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and in Nature of God in
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a way that you just really need to see it and need to be reminded
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of it . And so worship is about remembrance
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. It's about , like David said
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, oh , magnify the Lord with me , oh
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, my soul , magnify the Lord . Put
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a magnifying glass . You've not seen something
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right right now , right like , hey
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, this is who God is . It's , it's
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something that you need to pay attention to , and
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you may not be seeing it , your vision may be
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blocked by your discomfort
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, your pain , your disappointment , your discouragement , your
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exhaustion , but this
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is a key and core aspect of God that
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you need in this moment . You need to be reminded
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that he's a healer , you need to be reminded that he's a good
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father , you need to be reminded that he cares
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and , more than that , you need to sing
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that up out of your being . I often think
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like song is the soul's
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like , like one of the most pure forms
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of expression for your soul , and
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I think sometimes the songs that bubble up in
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us , especially when they are like
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hopeful , Encouraging
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, are kind of like our spirit man , nudging
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us in a direction . You
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know there's so many Maverick City music songs
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. There's so many , ooh
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back in the day , fred Hammond songs That
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are just ministry . I Was
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a fill of one in the hospital a
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week or so ago and There
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was a Trin-i-tee 5:7 song Which
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you got to be a real OG believer
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to know . Trin-i-tee 5-7-- I used to carry
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like-- I was-- okay . So I was that kid , i
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loved music , but I had cassette
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tapes that I wanted to carry around with me and my
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cassette player and you know They were
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chunky and so like I was that kid that
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had cassette tape stuffed in their little backpack . You know
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playing songs and stuff . But my mom
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was really intentional about surrounding me with music
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that reflected the word of God . And
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you know , now there is and
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even then there were a lot of people
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who ministered the word of God , a lot like David in
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the Psalms , like like I learned
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so many scriptures before I knew that they were
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scriptures because they were embedded in songs
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. And I think there's something
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really potent and powerful about highlighting
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an aspect or a piece of
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God's character in song and
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your spirit bringing that up to the forefront for
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you to look at , to put in front of you , right to
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be like , hey , see this thing , i know
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your , your focus is over here and out
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there and there's a lot of noise , but I need you
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to come back and see this part of God . God
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is still God , God is still faithful
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, god is still a deliverer
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. And I even think there's one of my favorite
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verses Don't give me the line because y'all know , quoting
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, you know passages is not my thing for
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real , for real , but I think it's
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Psalms 32 where it says the Lord surrounds us with
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songs and shouts of deliverance . And
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you know , you think about the importance of music
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to the Lord . Like God is
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about music; the enemy was about
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music . Music is powerful , it's influential
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, it's a tool , you know , and
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so it has this really
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amazing ability to highlight
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something . People are in love , they're singing songs that are
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, you know , like reflecting
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their enamorment with their loved one . You
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know , people sing to babies and , like all you know
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, we learn through song . Song is so important
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. It highlights things , it magnifies things , and
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so you know
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, just being mindful that that can be a tool in this
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space , and it's in the time where you're feeling
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pressed and pressured , squeezed and dried
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out , worship
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can magnify a part of God's character
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, a part of God's covenant with us that
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we might not really be , you know , fully
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paying attention to or taking stock of . You
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know , like Phillipians 4:8 says, think on things that are lovely
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, just , pure , honest , worthy of praise , excellent , of a
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good report . I think sometimes
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music is a way for us to do that with our
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soul . And so not only does
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music and worship help us magnify
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an aspect of God that we might not really be seeing
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, for all that it's worth, it
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also allows us to make
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a declaration into a space . I told
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you guys in the last episode , Todd Galberth
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has a song I think it's called He's
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Been Good , but he
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says , like kind of in a break in the song
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, you know , I had to declare out of a hard
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, out of a hard place , God , you've still been better
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. And I think music worship can
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be warfare . It can
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be a useful tool
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, a useful aspect , like
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almost like a leverage that we have with our authority
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, that , like you , your soul can be
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. There's so many Psalms I
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think . Well , I think it's Psalm 40 . It says my soul's
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in the miry clay right , or he picked
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me up by the miry clay and set my feet upon a rock and
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all these things . He put a new
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song in my mouth , right ? And there
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is something , just like-- I
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was, I love Dragon Ball Z too and I
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, just like- I like fight scenes . I don't know what it is
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about fight scenes- Black Panther , the fight scene in
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that first one , where it was
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not the one where he got beat up , because that was heartbreaking
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, but the one with Homeboy
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I can't think of his name right now , but the big
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dude , Winston Duke's character , um
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, i think there's something
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that gets kind of tit- for- tat with worship
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where , like , your circumstances can be pressing
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in . Um , you know , you could
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be like, Man this kid got on my nerves or
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like, My boss is tap dancing
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on my last nerve . Um , you can just be feeling
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the weight of all of your circumstances and there's something about
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putting on a worship song that's just like
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, Lord , you've been good , I'ma declare like
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you've been better to me . Oh
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gosh , like, I just-- Lord, you're worthy
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of my trust . I really don't know what's popping
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off in life right now , but you are still
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El Elyon , the most high God , like you
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are still Jehovah Rapha , you are still a healer
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. Like I-- I , I need
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to see that . But also I'm going to say
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that out of my being , because
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this is a moment where I'm assaulting
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the kingdom of darkness with my mouth and
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with song , which is crazy , because the enemy
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was a minister of music- for you to take music and turn
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it against him . We like that kind of stuff . Right
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there , that's that whole kingdom suffering violence , but
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the violent take it by force , that's what that is , right
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there . But I say all
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that to say , um , there's
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something powerful about
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taking the
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opposite of your circumstance and declaring
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it into the atmosphere , releasing it into the atmosphere
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. There's something about going
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I feel all
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of these things . I feel the negativity ,I feel the worry
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, I feel the x , y and z . But
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I'm going to now just like
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highlight this bit about God
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. I'm going to just praise God . I'm
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going to take all this energy and all this influence
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and all this authority and throw it at the Master's
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feet , because he's worthy of my trust , he's worthy
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of my adoration . He actually has all of my
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attention , while all of these things are trying to steal it
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. I'm offering up to him as praise . It's
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a sacrifice of praise , right , and
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so it is warfare
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. Worship and, and praise
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are warfare and they're warfare
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in a way that-- you know he talks about
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, the scripture talks about you know , the weapons
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of our warfare aren't carnal , they're not like, you
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know , these tangible things , but they are
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mighty to the pulling down of strongholds
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. And there's something about ministering
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to yourself in song , singing
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to yourselves and hymns and songs and spiritual songs
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. There's something super powerful about
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you
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freeing yourself with song . There's
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something that happens , I think , when you
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take a song like Man
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of your Word by Maverick . Hmm , Promises,
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Jireh
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, there's
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some anointing on , Rest on Us . I don't know , I
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Thank God , there is some anointing on I Thank
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God . Um , there's something
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about Exuberance , praise
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for real , for real , when you should be depressed
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, when , like hell is throwing all kinds of stuff
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against you , um , I think you , you
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break shackles off of yourself . Paul
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and Silas type stuff , um
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, and so it is that as well . Like
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Man , it is a- Worship
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is such a- it's
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a weapon , it's a tool , it's a skill , it's
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an investment in your spirit , it's
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all of those things . Um , and
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an investment in your spirit , it stirs
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you , like when you worship , you are
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stirring up your own faith , like-- the
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example that I think of is kind of like , and
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I don't know why they be doing this . Um , if you
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have-- I like dunkin donuts
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. Talking about all the things I like today , um
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, love dunkin donuts . Iced coffee Um
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. They do a weird thing , though , where you
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know , they go like , hey , do you want this sweetened ? and
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you'll be like , yeah , pull up to the
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window because I don't like to wait in line in real you
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know places and if I can drive through my drive
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through . Um , pull up to the window , they hand
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you your drink and there's this nice little bit of sugar
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sitting at the bottom and your cold drink
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, um , it's not going . It's
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not going to dissolve in a cold drink . I've thought many times
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to write dunkin and be like I think you need to add this
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to your training manual . But who am I but
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a humble iced coffee drinker ? Anyway
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? um , so
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one of the things that you have to do when that happens , in
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the hopes of getting it to melt , is to stir
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it . Right , you're like , all right , we got to . We have to move this
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, because the sugar sitting at the bottom It's
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not going to melt . Even in a hot drink , hot teas
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. You still stir the sugar , it'll settle at the bottom
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and you get all this sweetness at the end , and
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that's not really what you're trying to do , right , like what
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you need is for it to permeate throughout . But
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if I let it sit and settle it's almost like there's no
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sweetness in the drink at all . And
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our faith can be the same way , especially in
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hard seasons where it's dormant
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. It's like I got faith , yeah , sort
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of kind of yes there , but It's just
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sitting at the bottom because I'm feeling the pressure
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of the discomfort , the discouragement
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, the disappointment , the feeling of lostness
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. It's just sitting at the bottom And
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I think worship is one of those ways that
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we can be intentional about
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stirring up our own faith , because
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the words will ignite something . Being in
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a corporate setting with other believers who
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are just lifting God's name up and praising
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Him , despite the stuff they got going on , that
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energy alone . It reminds
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you and it puts you in remembrance , just like we talked
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about magnifying . It puts you in remembrance But
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it brings that faith back up and it's like
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wait a minute , you know , is
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it Jude ? It might be John . It
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talks about praying in the spirit and building yourself up so that you
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rise like an edifice , higher and higher . Obviously
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you can praise and worship in the spirit
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, and tongues and all that kind of stuff , but
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it does build you up . You are being built
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up when you're praising God , when you're
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worshiping , when you've got music going and you just laid
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out , you know , not really knowing what
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you're saying , you just in that whole Romans 8
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, my spirit is groaning . Okay , i just need you , lord
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, to interpret that . You know what that means , jesus
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. But worship
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stirs up our faith , it activates
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it . You know we're
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put in remembrance , we are using
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our authority , we're saying something , we're
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speaking something , we're praying the word
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, singing the word , what have you ? And
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we're engaged . You know our spirit . Man
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is like awakened and believing
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the things that we're saying . They
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believe , therefore , they speak right , and
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so our faith gets stirred up , it
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gets built up . We get built
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up when we're worshiping . We're reminded
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of who God is , we're reminded of our covenant
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with him , we're reminded that we have the Holy Spirit
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, we're reminded of who we are in God And
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that just kind of helps you sit up right and be like hold
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on a second . We
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are the aggressor , not the surrender , in this fight
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. Homie , wait a minute . You know you have me
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back on my heels . That's not who I am
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. You have me down God . That's not who he is . So
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let me tighten up real quick . We're
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built up , we're encouraged , our faith
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is being matured in that space . Worship
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is one of those things that it's like . It's
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almost like the spirit of God is actively like
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needing into us Christ likeness
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, it's needing into us maturity . It's like
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we are on the potter's wheel for real
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when we're worshiping , and it's a beautiful thing
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. It's a beautiful thing And like , if you've
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had the experience , you know what it's like to go into a worship
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experience and come out different . I don't know how God
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does it . He is God , so he
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be doing what he be doing , but it's
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transformative . Like when you're in the presence of God
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via worship or you know , you just sit in , whatever
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. When God's presence is in a place , it's
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just different . It's different
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And it's like that whole thing
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about how no flesh can glory in his presence . But there's
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something that God does just with his
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being , you know , and worship
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is one of those ways that we can engage the spirit of God
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in a really beautiful way to
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be changed , to be transformed , to be reminded
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. And then , lastly
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, which I think is the biggest thing , not the
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biggest thing is , one of my favorite things is
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that worship shifts the atmosphere
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, because worship is a force , and
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when I think about this , i think about two instances
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in the Bible . I think about the walls of Jericho
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falling , you know
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, because they were supposed to shout and do all that kind of stuff
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. And I think about Paul and
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Silas being in prison and
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, just despite their circumstances , magnifying
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the Lord , giving glory to God , entrusting
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themselves into his care And
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the jail cells opening and
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angels delivering them . You know , and
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I think , obviously
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, like worship can shift an atmosphere
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, but it can also shift circumstances , if
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not , you know also circumstances , and
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a lot of times , circumstances
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are going to be what they're going to be or it'll take the time
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for them to work themselves out . That , you
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know , is the appointed time , but
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if we can know
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how to have composure in that
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space , know how to carry ourselves in that
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space , know how to be , you
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know , god's representatives
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in the earth when those things are going on
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, i think that's what
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the scripture means in Romans 8 , where it talks about
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the earth is growing long for the sons and daughters
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of God to be made manifest , like
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the earth is like . Where are they at , though ? Like ? where are
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these people that are supposed to look like , like
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a creator . And
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so , atmospherically , worship
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has this pull , this
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drive . It really does , i think
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, in a sense , bring heaven to earth , bring
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heaven awareness to earth , really Have
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it like a God consciousness to us And
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, and that's a
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powerful thing It's a powerful thing , like
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I was talking about earlier , to be in the presence
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of God and to be , be changed . I
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think there are times when God is speaking something and there are times
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when God is doing something right And
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and they're think they are not word . There are no
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words for when God is doing something . But
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you know , like I've been
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Chemically altered at the atomic
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level . I am , i came in one way , i
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am leaving out another way , and when you
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think about Jesus's ministry , everybody that encountered
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the Lord Was
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, they were just not the same . They were just not
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the same . And I think
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worship has this ability
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to bring us to
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God and not like
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God ain't with us That's not even what I'm saying Like
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I think worship sometimes I Don't
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know , i don't even know how to really say this It's
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like worship has the ability to
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heighten our spiritual
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senses so that that the God
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that is always with us , that we don't always
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perceive , is finally being perceived
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at at higher levels . You know , you
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know , make me more aware of your presence , lord
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. Like I Think worship
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does that . Worship in the ways that we can be callous
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, worship works on those calluses so that we can
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have a sensitivity to God again , we
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can feel , perceive , be
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aware of the presence of God
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again , and , and
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in that way the atmosphere is shifted and that way
19:34
it's like oh wait , my mindset is
19:36
shifted , the way that I'm perceiving my circumstances
19:39
is shifted . I know I'm not alone
19:41
. God is with me , god
19:43
has my back , god's got me , and
19:45
so , even though the circumstances when I walk out of
19:47
that space , the circumstances may not have
19:49
changed , i have been changed
19:52
and I carry the glory with me . I
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carry that presence with me , and my awareness
19:57
of that changes everything . It
19:59
just shifts everything , and
20:01
, and
20:03
so worship is this massive
20:06
tool . It's a gift , it's
20:08
a skill , is weaponry , and
20:11
it's something you should content , you should contend
20:13
for . In desert places , it
20:16
can feel like the world is shaken up and you're not quite sure
20:18
what still stands , what remains
20:21
, what's worth holding
20:23
on to or what's worth fighting
20:25
for . Worship
20:27
is that thing . She is that girl like
20:29
contend for worship . I've
20:33
gotten to the place for my default , because it's like in
20:35
the wilderness You really can't depend and rely
20:37
on if and Connect
20:40
too deeply with your feelings because
20:42
they just think , mmm , they're not
20:44
giving what they need to give A
20:46
lot of the time . not that they're not important
20:49
, not that you ignore them or suppress them , but you
20:51
kind of also have to have an another
20:53
way that you plug in something else that you plug into because your
20:55
emotions Up down , raging
20:57
all over the place , and that's just
20:59
where they are at this time of weight Maybe for you
21:02
or me . But
21:04
to plug into , i'm
21:07
gonna set the atmosphere , i'm gonna set
21:09
my focus , i'm gonna highlight spotlight
21:11
, the faithfulness of God , the goodness of God , the
21:13
loving kindness of God . I'm gonna
21:16
stir up this faith . That's it made . That's like sleeping
21:18
, like a giant on the inside . I'm
21:22
I'm going to be intentional about using my authority
21:24
to declare a thing to wage war on
21:26
darkness , on depression , on
21:29
strife , on stress , on heaviness
21:31
. Because I think , you know , i
21:34
think one of one of the Major
21:36
tools of the enemy in this season , right now , is heaviness
21:39
, just that weary feeling
21:42
, and
21:45
worship will fix that
21:47
, worship will address that , worship
21:50
is a good way to treat that . And
21:52
so my encouragement to you this
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week your homework , worship and
21:57
worship like set , such as the time , like a
21:59
time where to like maybe
22:01
not a timer , just worship . I'll let you
22:03
be spirit-led in that . You know you mature and you'll faith in stuff
22:05
, purpose to worship
22:07
, purpose to on your commute , on
22:10
a walk , when you get up in the morning to
22:12
just worship , to open your mouth , to
22:14
engage your spirit , to stir yourself up and
22:17
to put yourself in remembrance , to make war
22:19
on the kingdom of darkness . I'm
22:22
a worship , you know , and
22:24
so I just hope you do that . I
22:26
would love to know what your experience is with that
22:28
. What feels different , what feels
22:30
new , what feels meh , i don't know , it's
22:32
an experiment , it's all a grand experiment . Shout
22:34
out to Queen Charlotte . Not really , i
22:37
don't know , don't judge me , it's
22:41
all an experiment , it's all an
22:43
experiment . And so I
22:46
think God's delight is in
22:48
us extending ourselves to experience
22:50
Him more deeply , to know Him more thoroughly
22:52
, to encounter
22:55
aspects of the nature and character of God that we may
22:57
not have really encountered before or at a deep
22:59
level . So that's fun , it's an adventure
23:01
. So anyway , love
23:03
you guys , have an amazing week , make it an amazing week . Talk
23:06
to you next week . Bye , look
23:10
out , wisdom is ours .
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