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Warriors escape Draymond ejection in Orlando

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and restrictions apply. Plus,

0:36

minus. Curry, way

0:38

downtown. Oh,

0:40

oh, what a shot from Curry!

0:42

Tim Calacmy deserves all the credit there.

0:45

Plus, minus. Tommy Triving,

0:47

again. Oh,

0:49

you're killing me! Tell

0:52

Marcus that he asked a question about my

0:54

defense. You hear that, Marcus? Anthony, you know

0:57

me well buddy. God,

0:59

have a great night. I think you

1:01

got the highest plus, minus in the

1:03

season. It will be a history. Hello

1:05

and welcome to a Orlando edition of

1:07

the Warriors All 82, or Warriors Plus,

1:09

Minus podcast, I should say. Tim Calacmy

1:11

is on with me. I

1:13

am leaving. Is it still Amway Center? No,

1:15

it's something else center now. I'm

1:18

walking back to my hotel, so you're getting

1:20

a walking version of the

1:22

Warriors Plus, Minus podcast. I got about

1:24

four blocks to my hotel. So, yeah,

1:27

interesting night in Orlando, and it's nice

1:29

weather. I like Florida weather this time

1:31

here. Nice and muggy for you there,

1:33

Slater. I'll take muggy. I'll take it

1:35

over the start of this trip, which was blizzardy.

1:38

Yeah. It's been a weird trip to

1:40

go from a blizzard to the Miami, Orlando back

1:42

to back was quite something. Yep, yep.

1:44

The NBA, they like to throw those at you. Yeah,

1:48

so, you know, a Florida

1:50

back to back combo win, 2-0

1:52

in Florida. And honestly, they played pretty well

1:54

in Minnesota. It was just kind of

1:56

a bad loss at the end, but generally again,

1:58

has been. theme of the season, they've

2:00

been a better road team. She'll

2:03

be like, obviously the story of the night

2:06

is, you know, Draymond Green get tossed four minutes into

2:08

it and the

2:10

ramifications of that, but then also

2:12

the fact that they win the game in

2:14

kind of impressive fashion. So where would you, where do

2:16

you think we should start with it? Yeah, I mean,

2:19

I'll start with positive this. I mean, I didn't think

2:21

they had it in them. I didn't think they'd win

2:23

in Miami. I didn't know that Jimmy Butler and Tyler

2:25

Hero and all those guys are going to be out,

2:27

but played a solid game in

2:30

Miami, you know, more importantly, played a real

2:32

solid fourth quarter and then

2:34

don't have comminga to start this game,

2:36

want it back to back, which is a tough back

2:38

to back. Gets a really good

2:41

defensive team, a really good home

2:43

team, really what are the Warriors

2:45

struggle against? Long athletic defensive minded

2:47

teams. Would have thought they would

2:49

have very little chance in this and then Draymond gets thrown

2:51

out with four minutes to go and

2:53

within four minutes into the game and

2:56

the Warriors might have played their most passionate

2:58

game of the year without comminga and Draymond,

3:00

like just given the circumstances. Thought

3:02

Wiggins played incredibly. Thought

3:05

Gary Payton, SAG could play really well. Thought

3:07

Moody came in there when they needed them.

3:09

They just got across the

3:11

board stuff and maybe the most passionate Steph

3:13

Curry game of the season. I

3:16

know you were asking about that. I mean, that was the

3:18

most, almost near tier. I don't know

3:21

what that was in Grandma.

3:23

It was frustrating. He

3:25

was just stewing. He was red-eyed. I mean,

3:27

I wouldn't call it crying. Crying seems like

3:29

a little, I don't know. Not crying, but

3:32

like, yeah, it was. He was

3:34

red-eyed. He was mad. He was pissed off. Yeah, he

3:36

was feeling it. He was feeling it. And

3:39

I saw your video of him afterwards and when

3:41

you asked him about it, he just said, hey,

3:43

we know what it is. We need Draymond out

3:45

there and we need him to

3:47

know that. And I

3:50

think it's something that's hitting social media and

3:52

oh, he's done with them. Where is he

3:54

done with Grandma? They're not done with Grandma.

3:56

They're just mad because they're not done with

3:58

them. And that's my point. They

4:00

still need him so they're

4:02

mad because they want him on the court

4:04

because they know they're better when then they

4:07

go on and Rally emotionally to win this

4:09

game without him, but I think the

4:11

frustration is they gone through all this with him He's

4:14

been on decent

4:16

behavior since the suspensions and

4:18

then in this Incredibly important

4:21

game that they could pull off a

4:23

huge win to get themselves thrown out

4:25

without the mink That is just thrown out before

4:27

me. It's just a frustration of how important it

4:30

is not that they're disaparting him It's

4:32

just that he remains important Yeah I'll put

4:34

it in my story I'll just say

4:36

like kind of like an important member of

4:38

the Warriors organization who I thought made a

4:40

like a Realistic realism type statement to me

4:42

when I was talking to him post game

4:44

about it It was just like what

4:46

did we just think he was never gonna get

4:48

ejected again? Is that Draymond was just gonna return

4:51

and never talk to refs and never get ejected

4:53

again Like this was always gonna happen number one

4:55

and then number two It was like, you know,

4:57

we can do a better job of getting him

4:59

away It's a little bit on the veterans at

5:01

times drag him away from the referees in that

5:03

situation That's number two and number three,

5:05

which this team has not done. Well this

5:07

season respond Play

5:09

well through adversity win games that you're not

5:11

supposed to win close games when you need

5:13

to close them beat good team And it

5:15

was like that was the positive feeling generated

5:17

from the locker room was like, you know

5:20

They won a game they weren't supposed to

5:22

Marcus who is now on with us We

5:24

talked about this last time like it's one of the

5:26

things Draymond was upset about in

5:28

Minnesota It's like they haven't stolen enough for

5:30

these games Well, they kind of you

5:32

know, they got one tonight So and then the other thing is

5:34

and this is just how sports work I was laughing with one

5:37

of the players in the post game locker room But it was

5:39

like, you know, kind of like hey

5:41

is this gonna be easy to move on from this and it

5:43

was like well Yeah, we won like it

5:45

didn't anything right? I mean, that's just how sports works

5:47

like if they lost This is

5:49

a bigger story. They didn't lose Draymond is kind of

5:51

saved a little bit because of that I just want

5:53

to point out that I kind

5:56

of said this will happen. So I feel like he

5:58

was the same dream validate

6:00

me, he, man. That's dirty, man.

6:03

On the neck, it's not a call. I don't know if

6:05

you heard, but I called, and they were going to

6:07

avoid the rest of this road trip. And

6:10

it's called 401. They still got

6:12

two left, empty. They still got two left.

6:14

These are the ones they might take. Yeah. Yeah. I

6:16

could totally see them going, this is Charlotte. We're going

6:18

to let them get it. Which

6:20

one is more worrying to you, Charlotte or

6:22

San Antonio? I'm thinking that. I would have

6:25

said San Antonio, but I'm thinking Charlotte's

6:27

going to be tough. One day off, when's

6:30

the last time you had a great step game in

6:32

Charlotte? Yeah, that was

6:34

three, four years ago. It

6:37

seems like it's been a while. And they've

6:39

lost, I think, the last four in Charlotte.

6:41

So I want to say at San Antonio,

6:43

they're going to play hard. And when being

6:45

a stand-up road trip, this

6:47

one is going to be tough. It took a lot

6:50

to beat the Magic. And if they can

6:52

make it back, that will help. But now

6:55

you go to some place. And Les Zaf

6:58

now is something. Les he plays better. He's playing

7:00

what, two games now where he hasn't been great?

7:03

So like maybe he's due for a

7:05

game. But then it's Charlotte, and

7:08

he tends to do a little too

7:10

much at home. So

7:13

this is what I think is the, what

7:15

do you call this? It's a trap game. That's what it

7:17

is, a trap game. After

7:19

the night they had the emotional wave they

7:22

had. But aside from that,

7:24

like, I mean, this

7:26

is kind of who the Warriors have

7:28

been and why I understand why they

7:31

say they're shocked to be here. Even

7:33

though like they're 10 feet, like that's what their record

7:36

is. But it feels

7:38

like the team that went in and

7:40

won this game did not

7:42

be a 10 feet. Like what it took from

7:44

them, what they had, they kind

7:46

of definitely had, they had down two stars.

7:49

They do this is what they do. And

7:51

then at some point here

7:53

at, you know, over these last 10, 11 games, they're

7:57

gonna look like a 15, right? But

7:59

you kind of. I feel pretty in

8:01

response based on how down

8:03

everything came I can relate to that based

8:05

on the game so yeah I feel

8:07

like they're going for one of those road trips I'm

8:10

looking pretty good though right I mean my prop bets

8:12

are looking better than John T. Porter so

8:15

are you sure John T. Porter's prop bets

8:17

are easy yeah it's a

8:19

pretty good one and

8:23

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11:03

was just like ice down the

11:05

body. It feels like the back to back kind of

11:09

had its toll on him. So

11:11

we set baseline right near

11:14

the bench in

11:16

Orlando and some of the shots he

11:18

was making. He had one on the

11:20

baseline over Jonathan Isaac who might be

11:22

the best defender in the league this

11:24

season. It was just like

11:26

so tough and it is crazy when

11:29

you see these type of individual scoring

11:31

performances from him juxtaposed

11:33

against what we've seen at

11:35

times of the season which has been can't

11:37

make layups, floating in and out of games.

11:39

It's just I don't know. I mean

11:42

he just changes their team when he plays like this.

11:44

No question. And this is 2022 finals, Wiggins everybody said

11:46

it. And

11:50

it probably wasn't his best game. I

11:52

call it his most important game certainly since the 2022

11:54

finals without Camengo

11:56

with Draymond throwing out. I mean if Wiggins doesn't have

11:59

this game they lose. This is not a question

12:01

about it this late in the

12:03

season Houston charging Houston and wins

12:05

in Oklahoma City Slater I mean

12:07

Jesus Houston is coming No,

12:09

Shay, no, Shay It's

12:13

still in all Houston. That's a great win but

12:17

This is what they saw from

12:19

which in 2022 hadn't seen really since But

12:22

also like I was a Giants game and I had several

12:24

people like hey when the Warriors are done Why don't they

12:26

just break it up? When are you gonna break up the

12:28

Warriors? And it's just hard, you know,

12:30

the point is and that was

12:32

without me knowing they're gonna even beat Miami This which

12:35

they were doing as I was talking to people and

12:37

then to win this one This is

12:39

why you don't break them up because the value

12:41

is in what this is you start

12:43

breaking them up You get less value. You're not getting

12:46

equal value for anybody on this team You know

12:48

for the possible exception with Kaminga possible exception of

12:50

staff, but then you can't do either one of

12:52

those guys, right? You can't trade you one of

12:54

those guys. You're not breaking it up because you

12:57

still have to sustain it for this This

13:00

doesn't come around very often and maybe we

13:02

won't see it, you know in a play

13:04

in game or whatever But this

13:06

is why you have to keep it together

13:08

because they can do this because Andrew Wiggins

13:10

can do this Because Steph can have a

13:13

mostly lousy game and that's a really good

13:15

defense That was really focused on him. Suggs

13:17

is a really good defender. All those guys

13:19

are wrong But then he

13:21

hit the game when you know the driving layup Keep

13:24

the lead and then the three the

13:26

night night Like this is why you

13:29

still have this bunch together. Kavon Looney

13:31

pops back in You know,

13:33

I know he played last night, but he's

13:35

in again because Ramon's out This is

13:37

why you don't bust it up because there is

13:39

still stuff there might not be

13:41

title-winning stuff But they're 2015 on the

13:43

road like that's a solid solid road

13:45

season This is the home records been

13:47

terrible, but I just I'm just into

13:49

my head because I've heard people say

13:51

it and I don't really Disagree

13:54

with the kind of the general

13:56

thing like maybe this should be

13:58

restarted. But you the restarting would be

14:01

such a difficult thing. It would

14:04

literally be the end of the Steph Curry era, and

14:06

you just can't get to the end of it. They

14:09

cannot be in that position. And

14:11

this kind of game, then there's been

14:13

a few others spread throughout, you know, this season is

14:16

why you don't go, okay, let's wrap it down

14:18

to the studs. So let's just start. No, you

14:21

have this. You still have this. And

14:23

this, whether it's this season or, you

14:25

know, as I've written maybe one last run next

14:27

season, is why you keep it together.

14:31

You don't have to, you know, be

14:33

totally devoted to every single piece I've

14:35

won a championship, but the

14:38

spirit of it, the core of it, you

14:41

still keep that together. And tonight

14:43

and last night were two reasons

14:45

why. Marcus, we didn't really get

14:47

too much of your thoughts just on like the Dray

14:50

Monarchy, the Steph response to

14:52

it, and just generally the delicate

14:54

situation they navigate with all that.

14:57

I mean, I don't know if you have

14:59

any deeper thoughts on it. What

15:03

thoughts I have from trying to

15:05

get together for the athletic, but

15:07

that's absolutely right. Yeah, I

15:09

mean, it's just a unique, you know, you just don't

15:11

see stuff that emotional or

15:13

that, you know, especially publicly. So I

15:16

actually think this is part of what Steve

15:18

Kerr was talking about. You

15:20

know what I'm saying? I do think

15:22

this is, this one, like he didn't get,

15:25

you know, to that emotional state like

15:27

all tonight. Like that type

15:29

of stuff happens when you're tired, right?

15:31

And like emotionally exhausted. And this has

15:34

been like a super emotionally

15:37

long season. And you can kind of see it,

15:40

you know, you can see it as a

15:42

shot. You know, tonight was,

15:44

I think TK said it on Twitter,

15:46

but like, this was like one of

15:49

them dig deep, grit and grind, find

15:51

it like battle claw, not much as

15:53

going well. And that

15:55

stuff is exhausting. And you could

15:57

see like, it's crazy how hard.

16:00

he clearly wants this even though they're

16:03

battling for a 10-seed. Like

16:06

it's not like he's not like man

16:08

whatever, like he's all in on

16:10

this fight to save a play in spot.

16:13

Which is kind of very definitive of this,

16:16

Warrior's team and how they got to win four

16:18

championships. But I mean

16:21

how many people are doing that right? Like how many people are

16:23

that locked in? Where you

16:26

know you expected a championship, now you're

16:28

fighting off the Rockets. And you're so

16:31

like you know into it

16:34

that this really flips you over the edge.

16:37

Like to me, I'm writing something along

16:39

the lines of that but I haven't

16:41

fully spoken to myself. And

16:44

then part of that is because there's been so many of

16:46

those types of games in the season that also ended in

16:48

a loss. I can't imagine

16:51

the locker room tonight if they had lost. Like

16:54

it was generally jovial obviously,

16:56

they had won. But he's

16:59

just gone through so many of these this season that

17:01

also included like you know, Jokic

17:03

banking in a 40-footer at the

17:05

buzzer. LeBron hitting two free throws

17:07

in double overtime. Remember he's ripping

17:09

his jersey in half a month.

17:12

Chad Holmgren. Yep,

17:15

Chad Holmgren corner three. Twice, twice

17:17

and then the foul. The

17:20

Sacramento game. Don't forget Sacramento. He

17:23

screwed up right? He had two really bad

17:25

turnovers. So you

17:27

know and that's part of a losing season. But yeah

17:29

and that's part of what he's trying to drag this

17:32

team out of so they don't have to feel this

17:34

way. But yeah you know I don't know.

17:36

It's a very interesting night but then you're like yeah okay

17:38

they're one up for the 10. Three

17:40

weeks from now this might have zero relevance

17:42

because they're not even in the playoffs. But

17:44

for now they are clawing. Like it

17:46

does matter to them which I

17:49

think creates better theater at least for the

17:51

last few weeks. I mean in most situations

17:53

especially most superstars and players who like you

17:57

know expect to win a championship.

17:59

I don't know. It feels like you expect more

18:01

of a, well, it is what it is. And

18:04

you know, we've, you even heard

18:06

from behind the scenes, like, like

18:09

this, I don't want to say doubt, but the

18:11

sense of man, we don't really have what we

18:13

need, you know, like all

18:15

year, like we don't have

18:18

it together. We're not like, there's a

18:20

sense that you can get there eventually.

18:23

But, you know, even Draymond, we

18:26

don't care about the rocket or I don't give

18:28

a damn whether rocket is partly like us what's

18:30

happening in here. It's just not on

18:32

point. So like

18:34

this idea that it's

18:36

not as after all this

18:39

has happened after after the clear,

18:41

obvious, they're battling for

18:43

nine or 10 seat at best. He

18:46

could be like, man, it is what it

18:48

is. This is who we are. But so

18:50

to see stuff so like, how

18:53

could you do this right now while we're battling

18:55

for the Gen Z? It's

18:57

just, it was shocking to see. Yeah, I think we

19:00

all also know, though,

19:03

and, you know, Steve Kerr talked about this

19:06

when Draymond got suspended the second time, and it

19:08

was like Draymond's fighting for his career. They

19:10

talked about like, they're protecting a legacy right? They

19:12

want to go out the right way. I

19:15

think Steph isn't doing that tonight, because he's

19:17

like, ha ha, now the

19:19

path to the championship is back.

19:21

It's more just like, he's fighting,

19:23

they're fighting as a dynasty to

19:25

like, still show

19:29

a respectful level of like

19:31

competitiveness that they feel like represents

19:33

themselves well. And I think he

19:35

you know what he did tonight too? He

19:38

really, I think, saved

19:40

the Warriors and Draymond from a

19:42

much more ferocious news cycle

19:44

tomorrow. If they lose this game

19:48

because of the Draymond injection, or you know, it

19:50

would be pinned up as because of the Draymond

19:52

injection, they're facing a lot of stuff tomorrow

19:54

that they don't like facing. They're now not right? I

19:56

mean, they still still be talking about it, but they

19:58

won. It's on. Sports Center

20:00

right now. I just hate that but yeah,

20:02

they won. It's a different discussion. It'll still

20:05

be a discussion Tram on

20:07

out of control. I mean that stuff's always gonna be out

20:09

there with this team But a

20:11

corrective victory changes that you know a

20:13

successful play and runs changes that a

20:15

little bit I

20:18

just like and I said this again on Twitter

20:20

But the look and sets I thought like that

20:22

was a little game sevens Kings without the 50

20:24

points, right? He didn't shoot like that But

20:27

you know the speech the night before the look

20:29

in his eye on the floor during that game

20:32

The feeling afterwards was like this

20:34

is going to happen. This is guys.

20:36

This is going to happen This is gonna be a victory

20:39

and you can come with me on it or you don't

20:41

have to come with me But we're gonna win this game

20:43

now. He did not do it himself Tennis.

20:46

This was nice You know

20:48

there at the end This certainly

20:50

was you know Much better

20:52

with him on the court than with him not on the

20:54

court But just that mood the look in

20:56

his eye when he was with Wiggins Afterwards

20:59

like there was some of that like it's

21:01

the sustaining of this like this Which

21:05

is the interesting they're gonna keep him to 30 I guess they're

21:08

not keeping him the 30 that 30-minute thing is Still

21:11

bizarre to me bang like basically what

21:14

was different tonight? Why 36 instead

21:16

of 30 essentially was no I'm good that and he

21:18

was like why is this even a tie like I'm

21:20

paraphrasing here People can go but he's like why I

21:23

don't understand why this is a topic the minute It's

21:25

a few minutes here and there like why are we

21:27

even? Yeah, he was really

21:29

upset by the idea that this has

21:31

become a hot topic. It's a sensitive topic

21:34

Understandable and me man. I'll be pleased with us

21:37

for focusing on it. That's the way it goes

21:39

Staff minutes are just have always been a thing.

21:41

They will consistently be a thing It's

21:44

a thing with staff. It's a thing with a

21:46

team Like this is an interesting way to look

21:48

at how they play the games the fourth quarter

21:50

is where these games are being decided Every single

21:52

for again warriors game is a silent fourth quarter

21:54

and the staff misses a big chunk of it

21:56

Which means he doesn't play more than 33 minutes.

21:58

There's gonna be focus on it.

22:01

So no one's saying that's... Hey

22:03

he can be Steve cannot love the conversation is

22:05

they're still gonna be conversation it's still gonna affect

22:07

the way we look at this

22:10

team and this team is valued by everybody

22:12

but you know I mean you

22:14

know this might take a toll from staff too like

22:17

it might be like 36 minutes and he might be

22:19

have no legs you know Chris Paul had no legs

22:21

tonight I mean later you were there but I thought

22:23

he had no legs and play 17 minutes and couldn't

22:26

bring the ball up against Cole Anthony. Yeah

22:29

good second straight second straight game he's been

22:31

picked six. Yeah Cole Anthony then

22:33

like roared in his face I don't know if he

22:35

caught this after and you could

22:38

Chris Paul was just biting his tongue like

22:40

yeah well they called timeout because they couldn't

22:42

get the ball like they didn't want

22:44

you know so they had a switch it and have Wiggins bring it up

22:46

I think like that's

22:48

just an older player older

22:51

point guard and it was a

22:53

struggle there you know there were probably some dead

22:55

legs as we've seen from

22:57

you know various warrior veterans through through this

22:59

season there it's just it's tough on a

23:01

set back-to-back maybe Steph's has some

23:04

dead legs the next game maybe it's two games

23:06

who knows but I

23:08

just think he was not

23:11

going I guess he waved her off on

23:13

one sub right for like at least a

23:15

possession correct Jenski in there and in the

23:17

you know start of you know not to start

23:19

with four but Ole Miss in the fourth quarter

23:21

so kind of wait oh so it was like

23:23

345 or so left and Kerr

23:26

went and to take him out and

23:29

he didn't want to come out but Kerr

23:31

had to explain to me it was literally

23:33

they were just about to play a defense

23:35

possession and then he was gonna call timeout

23:37

so they just played one defensive possession without

23:39

him they called timeout but you know he

23:41

started fourth you know that was different so

23:45

yeah and I think that might have

23:47

been Steph's you know there might be

23:49

some understanding hey let's not do that

23:51

again let's 30 minutes

23:53

is not you know what it's what was

23:55

it seven minutes of the fourth quarter maybe

23:58

more than seven minutes But

24:01

hey, you know, listen, it's it's

24:03

his body. It's the Warriors, you know, Rick, celebrate

24:05

any like all these things, all these things and

24:07

factors. We're not just saying it's easy. It's hard

24:10

to figure this all out, but it

24:12

was interesting. The back and forth

24:14

was interesting. The Curry emotion was

24:17

interesting. And as, as

24:19

empty was saying, he's not chucking this season, no

24:21

way. And we knew that, right? We knew he

24:23

wasn't going to check this season. And if he's

24:25

not going to check the season, nobody

24:27

on the Warriors can check the season. They cannot.

24:29

They can fight for everything they can get. And

24:31

we'll see what they are. To do it the

24:33

way they did it tonight, I think they might

24:35

have had 14 offensive rebounds. It was their young

24:37

guys. Trace Jackson Davis, 14 rebounds.

24:40

Pajemsky had eight in the first half. Moses

24:42

Moody had two huge offensive rebounds. Kirk Hall is the

24:45

biggest rebound in the game. That Skyne one he had.

24:47

And then he kicked it to Clay for three. He

24:49

also had to put back Dunk. I

24:52

just thought the young, like, this

24:55

team's young guys are kind of at times

24:58

in environments like this can feel like the

25:00

stable part of the operation, which

25:02

is crazy. You know, they're the ones giving them

25:04

these, like, small little possessions. And

25:07

that's just, I don't know, it's just an interesting

25:09

aspect of this team. Everybody's going to be quiet.

25:11

Look, yeah, I'm going to try to unmute here.

25:14

Just think where they'd be without them. But I was kind of

25:16

thinking about that. Like, it's not like they

25:18

had a bad off-season. They had a good off-season. And

25:21

they're in this place. Can you imagine if they

25:23

didn't have TJD, didn't

25:25

have Pajemsky, if Kaminka had not taken this

25:27

step, where

25:30

they would be right now? It

25:32

would not be pretty. And

25:34

even with these pluses, and

25:37

Chris Paul and Sarwhic was fine for the

25:39

first segment of the season. They didn't have

25:41

those guys? Where would they, they would be

25:43

like 13th in the West. Even

25:46

with Steph being mostly healthy. And

25:48

I mean, obviously Dremel went through his stuff. But

25:50

they've got more players. They got more,

25:52

and Moody plays well. Like, we talk

25:55

about this almost every time. He'd unplay

25:57

them. Crazy how Moody doesn't play after

25:59

playing like that. Yeah, it's like crashing

26:01

the point. He doesn't make shots. He's

26:03

not making a shot, but he

26:05

does other stuff He's just flies to the rim.

26:07

He's nobody blocks him out. He's at the rim.

26:10

He's following up It's like you

26:12

just would think that would be worth some minutes

26:14

again It's not as easy as just saying it

26:16

but they are deeper because

26:18

these players can play they got guys

26:21

who can jump GP2 tonight was fantastic.

26:23

Oh What would you

26:25

say that again, please? Oh, I say

26:27

five four five five No,

26:29

you know, he missed that layup last game and he

26:32

was focused on making the land Yeah, he had a

26:34

right hand lab. You see that? He

26:38

was great he was he had a Ridiculous

26:40

block from behind. Yeah, they're

26:43

like they tell me lamb this hammer That's

26:45

yeah, I was so hard. He blocked it

26:48

He was talking in the post game locker room

26:50

How'd like his hand had gone numb for

26:52

a while or like risk or whatever could just

26:55

I mean and that was a block Yeah,

26:59

no, he was good. He was and he was they

27:01

was like Marty Palma, right? He was by the way

27:03

He's yeah He started the second half

27:05

in Draymond's place and then Moody was the one who

27:07

actually came in for Draymond right when Draymond got ejected

27:10

And and yeah, they went on that run 17. Very

27:12

the Moody Playing

27:15

time distribution has understandably even frustrating to a

27:17

lot of people, but it is like Pretty

27:20

fortunate aspect of their team that Draymond can get tossed

27:22

and you feel like man They're gonna be reeling and

27:24

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27:27

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27:29

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28:32

So they got depth.

28:35

How about them going with Guy Sandoz over

28:37

Dario Sarge tonight? Hey he was minus 62

28:39

in like five

28:42

minutes. That was

28:44

one where I'm watching him go, it doesn't

28:46

look like he's playing very well. Let's look

28:48

at the plus minus and that's when when

28:50

the plus minus went, yeah that is what

28:52

I've seen. He is just getting torched out.

28:54

He will always hit that big three though.

28:57

He hit the three. Kurt Manchetz several times

28:59

he hit that big three and gave him

29:01

credit for it. He did hit that three

29:04

emergency situation. I give

29:06

him full credit for it. It was tough though.

29:08

Those were tough minutes. But

29:11

everything helps. Everything helps when you win

29:13

a big game like that. And they

29:16

you know do it without Dremont and do

29:18

it without Kaminka. Again you win

29:21

a back-to-back against a really good team.

29:23

And Orlando's a really good team. Chris

29:25

Moll was ripping him on post

29:27

game which I give him credit for. He was being

29:29

honest. Who do you rip? The

29:31

magic because they can't shoot. They're going

29:34

out. I mean he basically told him

29:36

to go get Clay. Hey Clay if

29:38

I'm a play agent. Yep it was

29:41

wild. He was on something

29:43

and it was interesting. I'm glad he was

29:45

that interested. I've had these conversations while he's

29:47

not like teams that can't

29:49

shoot period. Just doesn't doesn't matter what

29:51

else they do. I mean it's not

29:54

surprising that Mullen wouldn't like you know.

29:56

Yes. A Hall of Fame shooter. This

29:58

was an extreme. the matter right

30:01

this was an extreme poor I mean

30:03

generally they can't shoot but this was

30:05

terrible yeah this was yeah they had

30:07

no outside shooting but except for Cole

30:09

Anthony but it was

30:11

tough game for the Warriors again no matter what

30:14

whatever the magic we're doing they got those defensive

30:16

players they've got they win games

30:18

at home they just do and the Warriors did

30:20

it without comming and without drama two of the

30:22

top what seven and to a top

30:24

five I'm gonna do they're starting lineup basically and

30:28

I just thought it was a tough game I

30:30

just was a really impressively toughness

30:33

shown in what

30:35

they do and who they are and we'll see if

30:37

you know again this is turn around

30:40

and lose to Charlotte then this one isn't worth

30:42

that much but I was

30:44

impressed I was surprised they

30:46

won this game and you

30:48

got to chalk that up to them I was

30:51

just looking though just for Jamski I don't know

30:53

what make couple baskets he's

30:55

got more rebounds he's a two

30:57

guard then made baskets

30:59

this season 359 rebounds

31:01

and 231 made baskets

31:06

that's pretty amazing

31:08

I don't know the last two guard that

31:11

would have done that six foot you get

31:13

me as more rebounds than total made baskets

31:15

you know the G.B. two we'll be

31:17

my guest I guess so but he doesn't have

31:19

many rebounds

31:21

like he's not saying no he's not the

31:23

volume rebounder but you have to use a

31:25

volume rebounder he's just chasing down rebounds it

31:29

is a remarkable talent he's got for

31:31

finding the ball and I give him

31:33

the court you know what a shot

31:35

he made tonight he was happy about

31:37

it postgame the running the running left

31:40

running left thing they

31:43

were they were cheering on the bitch like it

31:45

was the first time he was that we were

31:47

kind of chat when the postgame like when's the last time

31:49

you made that he said he hit one over PBJ when

31:51

they played the Wizards I was like trying to remember I

31:55

don't know if it was like that I don't

31:57

know like that one was a pure running running

31:59

lefty from about what eight feet or something like that. I

32:01

mean, it was, it was impressive. He's

32:03

tried it and he's missed it wildly a few

32:06

times, but that was a, it was

32:08

a nice shot. I don't think that magic knew

32:11

that he was left-handed. It just several times, I

32:13

just let him get to his left, but that's

32:16

all right. He gave them good

32:18

minutes. They needed good minutes from everybody, you know, obviously

32:20

down as many as they were. And

32:23

TJ, I thought TJD was really good.

32:25

I thought Looney was really good. Like

32:27

they needed all those guys. He's got

32:29

great hands. He just swipes the ball

32:31

out of the air. And that is

32:33

not something that a lot of the guys can

32:35

do, but you know, just, it's a talent, a

32:37

hand-eye coordination. He like finishes really like, he's got

32:40

a very slick little lefty off the glass. You

32:42

would think he like, quick down, quick down, quick

32:44

down. Yeah, he could just like,

32:46

like he's going up to dunk and just sneak

32:48

it in. It's a few times I just thought

32:51

like he was going to get a block, but he

32:54

just, maybe it's a lefty thing. He

32:56

could just get it really quick off the glass and then

32:58

the rim. Which is weird for a

33:00

dunker. Like go bare, I believe

33:02

got him once in Minnesota, but like, you

33:04

know, if you're going to finish

33:07

well, you need to be able to want to

33:09

finish through shop fauquers at times. And he does

33:11

that. He keeps the ball high. I think that's

33:13

the thing. Like he just keeps the ball high.

33:15

Doesn't bring it down so he can get locked

33:17

around and he finishes high. And he can have

33:19

to be better on the street. So he can work on that.

33:21

He's got a nice form. So both. Yeah,

33:23

you figure it out. Almost at a half quarter. I kind

33:25

of thought it was going for a second. I

33:28

made it hit the rim. I don't see

33:30

that. Hit the rim. Wasn't bad. We

33:33

know what's crazy. What was

33:35

crazy about this team is like the

33:37

markers that we used to like kind

33:39

of use to show like, especially

33:41

like during the heyday was like,

33:44

you know, everybody's saying it's a shooter. It's like, nah,

33:47

this team wins because of these little

33:49

toughness markers, right? And the crazy part is

33:51

they have them this year and

33:53

it's not, it doesn't work. Like, I mean, look

33:55

at their road record. I

33:57

mean, what is tougher than back? their

34:00

backs and they they are

34:02

lights out on back to back. The second night of

34:04

back to back, that used

34:06

to be like the

34:08

sign of you know a you know

34:11

of a team that has like this certain will like

34:13

we're not gonna lose back to back so

34:15

they have the the the

34:17

the the like great

34:20

road record the really

34:22

good back to back record uh

34:25

and it doesn't even matter so it's

34:27

insane. Well that's just crazy because

34:29

they get pounded at home after like three days

34:31

of writing. No no that's just resting in our

34:34

game. But

34:36

you would think the same

34:39

you would think the same like force

34:41

of will that makes them show up

34:43

on back to backs on the road

34:45

would like actually work at

34:47

home but it doesn't this is an odd team. Yeah

34:50

if they were having a normal season they probably like

34:52

would have rested their guys right this would have been

34:54

like oh you know four guys rested they would have

34:56

had several of these one

34:58

guy rested just was four minutes into the game

35:01

so. Be ready tomorrow yeah you should be ready

35:03

to you should be ready to try. They also

35:05

play comminga they think you know they're

35:08

hoping can play in Charlotte also

35:10

they're calling it do you rest

35:12

that tendonitis do you rest that

35:14

in Charlotte? Not in Charlotte

35:16

they don't rest maybe that might be why you

35:19

he did rest in Charlotte once right or

35:21

was he yeah no he was remember

35:23

he pulled up pulled right before the game remember that yeah

35:25

he got yeah that's what it was yeah he thought it

35:27

was covid because that was a covid error and it was

35:29

done in a very like uh sir you have covid come

35:32

to the back but it wasn't but it wasn't

35:34

go it wasn't um i

35:37

don't think you rest up any game because like you just kind

35:39

of have to win every game so yeah i think

35:41

you might want to rest cp i don't maybe this will

35:43

get lost around in a locker room but

35:45

i said that but i think he

35:48

might need to rest he did not look good

35:50

tonight did not look good and um

35:53

you know it's a lot of wear and tear on that body

35:55

and a lot of through a

35:57

lot of years a lot of seasons i mean he does not

35:59

want to bring the ball up against Colanthony when he

36:01

literally cannot bring the ball up against Colanthony. That's

36:03

a little bit of a red light to me.

36:05

It's just a little bit of, hmm, not sure

36:08

that his legs are there. So, you know,

36:11

you're not playing big minutes, but maybe he

36:13

takes a rest and Steph

36:15

keeps playing. I don't know that they can

36:17

win without stuff being out there. They do

36:19

need wins. Like they got to win those

36:22

next two games to fulfill Marcus first of

36:24

all, right? It's always that I mean, I

36:26

mean, yeah, it's correct. But beyond that then

36:28

they don't want to get all behind the

36:31

user rocking secondarily. I've

36:33

been saying it for a while. April 4 in Houston,

36:35

I think that's going to be for the 10th seed.

36:37

I really, there's games after that. We know that there's

36:39

games leading up to it, but I just think if

36:42

the Warriors can beat the Warriors, then they're

36:44

going to be the ninth seed. They're not

36:47

going to be

36:49

the 10th. But I think

36:51

that's going to be for the 10th seed. I just

36:53

think that. And by the way, is the 10th that

36:55

I mean, I know travel is they don't want to

36:57

travel more, but they're better on the

36:59

road. So wouldn't they maybe even rather play the

37:01

Lakers? The thing that the nine. Yeah. Yeah. I

37:04

mean, it feels that way. You know

37:06

who wouldn't, they know who wouldn't rather that Joe

37:09

Laker. Yeah. I mean, then another, they

37:11

win it. Then another road game. I

37:13

mean, it's going to pop up, but

37:16

I almost think they got a better shot against the

37:18

Lakers in LA than they do it. That's it. That's

37:20

it. When staples, when my safety, when they do a

37:22

chase center, it's just, they're just better on the road

37:24

period. I mean, I can't explain it. There

37:26

are probably a lot of good reasons for it. I

37:29

don't know all of them circle the wagons maybe, but

37:31

they're just, they're 2015 on the road and what are

37:33

they, they're under 500 at home.

37:35

It's just, it's a wild thing,

37:38

especially after last season, but it's where they

37:40

are. Weird season

37:42

at Charlotte Friday at San Antonio Monday,

37:44

a quick return home for a Mavericks

37:46

game and then a Rockets Mavericks

37:49

back to back Houston Dallas. So a

37:51

lot of games coming. We'll

37:53

see what happens. We will talk to you. And Lakers

37:55

after that, right? Yeah. Lakers are pretty

37:58

soon. Is that right after that? No,

38:00

yes the night. I think they might

38:02

have a jazz Sunday home game right before

38:04

that. Oh, yeah, you're right There's a jazz.

38:06

Where are you splitter now? You were you're

38:09

not walking anymore. So worry. I'm in the

38:11

m-club lounge in the mariachi I'm

38:17

sure it's going really rockin hard in the

38:20

m-club lounge. There's zero people in here besides

38:22

me, which is nice It's very nice. You're

38:24

in a hangar or something. I was wondering

38:26

where you were. Hopefully it wasn't that bad

38:29

a sound quality Sorry,

38:31

is it as nice as the one in Houston? No,

38:34

but it's close You just

38:36

say that then Ethan's gonna hear listen to this because

38:39

he loved that he loved that when

38:41

you guys were writing in that room Oh, yeah,

38:43

one of the career moments All

38:46

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