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so excited to go. I know.

2:18

I'm really excited to talk to Summer House today because

2:20

I was texting Ron. This

2:22

is one of those episodes where I texted Ron and I was

2:24

like, oh my god. I was like the first 14 minutes of

2:26

this episode. I'm like besides myself. And then I just kept getting

2:28

better and better and better. Oh,

2:30

it was like a Lindsay and Carl Bonanza. I

2:32

lost my mind. Oh my god. I was like,

2:34

we have, we're going to have so much to

2:36

say. It was a good moment

2:38

for a lot of animals today. Pigeons made out well.

2:40

There was a squirrel who made out well, got a

2:43

lot of scenes. And the squirrels in New York are

2:45

just so bold. I mean, they just, it just stares

2:47

right at the camera. Like what? What? Yeah.

2:49

You fucking got a net. You got a fucking net. Then

2:51

look the other way motherfucker. I am looking at you.

2:53

I'm looking at you. Got the camera on. All right.

2:55

You need to be on the paper. I'm going to

2:57

be on TV. I'll find it. I'll find it. I

3:00

saw some squirrels in Central Park last weekend. And

3:03

they were like chasing each other. And

3:05

I was like, why are you guys chasing each

3:07

other? There's more than enough room for all of

3:09

you. Look at these trees. Look at

3:11

this grass. Squirrels chase each other. I

3:13

lie in bed and just watch the squirrels chase each other

3:15

in circles and up trees and down trees. And then they

3:17

come down to the tree and they stare at Bueller. And

3:19

then they get him running. And then Bueller's running around a

3:22

tree. I mean, it's just squirrels just add so much to

3:24

this world. They do. But

3:27

this was a big pigeon forward episode. In fact,

3:29

the episode opens with a pigeon that's just dancing.

3:31

Just like a pigeon being like, hey. It's

3:34

just like having the best time. Just like, hey, I'm on

3:36

Summerhouse. I've got to make my splash. I'll be the next

3:38

cast member. Oh, and by the way, one thing

3:41

I loved about this episode, there were

3:43

so many throwbacks to like season one

3:45

in terms of cast members and flashbacks.

3:48

It's pretty amazing. Not

3:50

to take away from the pigeon. Sorry. I'm

3:52

sorry. Yeah, I know. Way to mindfuck.

3:55

Way to upstage this pigeon. So

3:57

Bravo continues its carnival obsession. this

4:00

year with another shot in the carnival.

4:02

This one is the boys in some

4:04

carnival themed place playing

4:06

basketball, like the little basketball games. You know where

4:08

the holes are too small to get the basketball

4:10

in? Yeah. Cheating game.

4:12

Like a cheating game. Stupid. So

4:15

it's like they're playing that. It's like Kyle and

4:17

West. We see the pigeon again. This time the

4:19

pigeon's like, oh, second shot. Okay, we're gonna change

4:22

it up. I'm on TV.

4:24

So Gabby's FaceTiming with her parents and they're

4:26

like, what are you doing? And she's like,

4:28

well, first, I'm so

4:30

busy, you guys. First, I'm going to

4:33

a basketball at Paddy Pritlenty and

4:35

then I'm going to Italy.

4:38

They're like, oh my God, Gabby. And

4:42

she's like, yeah, I did that. I know.

4:44

They're like, you know how many men are

4:47

in Italy? Gabby's is gonna be so fun.

4:49

Find the penis, please find the penis. So

4:52

now we settle in on Paige and Craig walking

4:54

by the river and Craig's like,

4:57

why is that water so rough? It's

4:59

like really moving. It's

5:01

a river, Craig. Rivers move. How

5:04

it works. It's a

5:06

Hudson River specifically. Maybe it's East River.

5:08

I don't know. I don't know what river it

5:10

is. I don't know what river it is, but one thing I do know, you're

5:13

very young, Craig. Very, very young.

5:16

So she's making a romantic picnic for Craig

5:19

and because she was just

5:21

shamed on national TV by Danielle about giving

5:24

Craig nothing. So she's like, I'll buy some

5:26

cured meats. That'll solve everything.

5:29

So she takes him to this picnic and she's

5:31

like, isn't this adorable? He goes, it is. She

5:33

goes, is it really? Cause it's eating, which is

5:35

gross and it's outside, which is gross.

5:38

So two grosses make

5:41

it not gross. I don't know, but here we

5:43

are. So Danny, I hope Danielle's watching this. Can

5:45

we're getting this? Ew,

5:47

there's like a pigeon nearby doing a selfie. It's

5:49

like, do you think you're famous or something? So

5:53

Paige is like, I'm sorry, Craig

5:55

goes, is this how it

5:57

feels to be you? No,

5:59

I wasn't. I would never do something as pathetic as this.

6:01

But anyway, chicken, sometimes I feel like I don't

6:04

show you enough that I appreciate you and love

6:06

you. And that makes me laugh,

6:08

because it's hilarious watching you look sad. But

6:11

thank you so much for letting me be me. Thank

6:15

you for letting me make you feel like you're not

6:17

part of this relationship. It's a real thrill for me.

6:20

You know, Danielle told me recently

6:22

that I give nothing. And I

6:24

thought, finally, somebody sees

6:26

me. Should I marry Danielle? Here's

6:29

a sandwich. What? Where's

6:31

the sandwich? It's nothing, Craig.

6:34

I give you nothing. This

6:37

picnic basket is full of nothing, and it never

6:40

will be. I love you

6:42

so much. My

6:44

love language are gifts of

6:47

nothing to you. I

6:50

wish to you, dumb mac. It's funny

6:52

to show you how I feel it. This is a

6:55

picnic basket with nothing inside. You understand what I'm trying

6:57

to say? Is

6:59

it about the river? So choppy.

7:03

So she says, why am I coughing? If

7:06

I swear to God, if I

7:08

get even a tickle in my throat, I'm

7:10

gonna fucking lose it. This happens every time

7:12

I go to LA, and it will not

7:14

happen today. I'm not being successful. I'm gonna

7:16

have a great time. I'm gonna find a

7:18

place to move to. I'm moving back to

7:20

Los Angeles, and nothing is gonna stop me.

7:24

Darling, you inhaled? I can't go anywhere. You

7:26

inhaled some spit. You

7:28

know what happens is when you inhale stuff, and

7:31

when something goes down the wrong pipe, there's residual

7:33

pipe cleaning that needs to happen. You're

7:36

okay. Anyway. Never

7:40

mind. You're not asking for validation. No,

7:44

nothing. Okay, so Paige and Gabby's parents,

7:46

Craig picnic. Okay, so, it's like, isn't

7:48

this adorable? So Paige is like, yeah,

7:50

I don't show you how I love

7:53

you. And sometimes I throw a

7:55

lot of things at you figuratively, I mean, although

7:57

there was that time I threw the

7:59

apple. remote at you and then couldn't get

8:01

the touchscreen to work on it a little clicky thing.

8:05

By the way, if you bought me another Apple remote,

8:08

it's really annoying having

8:10

to use my iPhone. It was really awkward

8:12

when I threw that remote at you and it hit your

8:15

head and got wedged into your hair. Her

8:17

hair is so stiff. So

8:20

she said... I had to click you every time I

8:22

wanted to change the cell. Turns

8:24

out it was actually really fun. Hold

8:27

on, let me put you on the mute. So

8:33

Craig's like, oh, you're not easy. Well nothing

8:35

worth having is easy. And

8:37

I'm definitely not easy. I'm not like, as I

8:39

like to say, Danielle. We like to say that

8:41

word instead of easy around here. She's

8:45

easy and somehow no one else is

8:47

ever hard around her. Isn't that weird?

8:51

Crazy how that happens. You know what?

8:53

I'm self-aware enough to know that I'm like

8:55

not the most openly emotional person, but I'm

8:58

dating someone who is exceptionally emotional and I

9:00

have to remind myself that sometimes I

9:03

have to be a little kinder and

9:05

sweeter before I remind him how pathetic

9:07

he is. He's

9:09

awful. Well sometimes I don't know

9:11

if you like me or not and that may

9:13

seem crazy to you. No, sometimes I don't like

9:15

you. This

9:18

is great. Can you just...

9:20

Hold on a second, I just want to like... I

9:22

just want to take in your insecurity right now. It's

9:24

just so hilarious to me. So

9:27

my communication isn't... That's what you say. It's

9:29

wonderful. That was the best thing you could

9:31

have said to me today. I

9:43

love that. I love that you're really feeling it. So

9:45

it's like, I mean, I would say

9:48

that my business is taking off and

9:50

you talking about apartments. I'm like, yeah,

9:52

I'm cool with this whole situation. I'm

9:54

like, let's get married. But then there's

9:56

some benefits about not waiting

9:59

too long. Oh Craig, did you start a sentence

10:01

and you didn't know where to take it again? Okay, I'll wait.

10:05

You do have to think. And she's like, okay, well, is

10:07

there an age that it would be like, okay, now it's

10:09

been too long. And he's like,

10:11

uh, well, I mean, I want my first

10:13

child by 40. Craig,

10:15

you already look 40 though. No, but

10:17

by the time I actually am 40. But

10:20

still, you started looking 40 like two seasons ago. No,

10:23

but I mean like, by the time I really am

10:25

40. That

10:28

was the year when I decided that I would be too old

10:30

for this relationship. And the funny thing is I'm 30 now. So

10:33

it's weird how that worked out. It's so weird

10:36

because I realized that my goal was to break up with

10:38

you when I'm 40. So it's

10:41

not really compromising on how we're not

10:43

going to compromise. So

10:48

and, um, she

10:50

just liked, she basically doesn't know what to

10:52

do. And so she's just saying things

10:54

to him to make. Well, look,

10:56

she's been honest with him. Okay. She's been honest

10:58

with him, but somehow everything's in her court to

11:01

quit everything in her life to move to fucking

11:03

Charleston for Craig, because Craig has a store on

11:05

King Street. Guess what? You don't work at that.

11:07

Don't tell me you're in that store 24 hours

11:09

or that they give a shit. Your partner is

11:12

running that whole business. Everybody knows it. Good for

11:14

you, by the way, that you're in that position.

11:17

He can move too. The world is, everyone can move.

11:19

I think if she can move, then he can move.

11:21

I don't like that the situation is just that

11:23

it's all up to her and that's it. So until

11:25

you're ready to move, you're wasting my time. Why

11:27

am I, you're wasting your own goddamn time. Okay. You

11:30

can get a golf cart in New York city. Well,

11:32

you probably can't, but you

11:35

know what I mean. Yeah. You

11:37

can get a golf cart in San Fernando Valley.

11:40

Apparently based on what we saw Jackson Brittany do

11:42

two weeks ago. So Craig is like, well, you

11:45

know what, Jake, it's okay to change your mind.

11:47

And it's okay for you to tell me things,

11:49

but I don't like being insecure in our relationship,

11:51

which I try to fight a lot because I

11:53

don't want to be a pussy. Well,

11:56

that's cute. That's cute. Down

12:01

the river, it's so choppy. Yes,

12:03

bam, with Craig. How did the river

12:06

work? So he was like, yeah,

12:08

I mean, like, because if I was 40, then

12:10

I'd be like, oh my god, now I'm 40. Yeah,

12:13

Craig. And then, but you'd, but I'd

12:16

be like, but Craig, at least you started looking 45

12:18

years ago. Wait a minute.

12:20

What were you saying? Yeah, but I'd be

12:22

like, I'm 40 now, and now I

12:25

have to fall in love again and find

12:27

an apartment, and I'd be like, oh my

12:29

god, you know what, Craig, you knew it.

12:31

Your gut was telling you, she's never leaving

12:33

New York for you. So like, where does

12:35

engagement fall for you now? I'm like, if

12:37

your gut is telling you that, then go.

12:40

Just go. Yeah. Craig, don't go

12:42

though. I like them together. They're so cute.

12:44

Cameron, I don't know what to do. Well,

12:46

look, I don't want you to think that

12:49

because it's taking me longer, that it's something

12:51

that you're doing. Okay, I'm fully invested. I'm

12:53

just planning it out, and I'm just thinking,

12:56

how long can I just

12:58

wait for his business to go under? What

13:01

the? It's my

13:03

you, Craig. It's the

13:05

fact that I really

13:08

don't like you that much. I can't imagine being with you

13:10

for that much longer. Do you understand? At

13:12

some point, people just have all the pillows they need.

13:18

So when that happens, we

13:20

can just then decide on New York. Basically,

13:23

here's the race. It's

13:25

not really a race to the altar. It's

13:28

a race to see who can get canceled first. You were

13:30

Hannah Burner. You're

13:32

on Southern Charm, and she's Hannah

13:34

Burner. So you could really go

13:36

either way. Yeah, we're

13:39

just going to see. Dixie Squad are going down south.

13:41

It's kind of a win-win situation for me, and I'm

13:43

just going to play the waiting game. Okay,

13:47

so they have the talk that

13:49

they've had a zillion times, like,

13:51

where are they going to raise

13:53

children? And she

13:56

does give him that she doesn't know

13:58

when, but she does know that because

14:00

she wants it to be with him, you know? So

14:02

that's cute. And she's like, I

14:04

mean, do you think I'm gonna let you go now that you

14:06

finally grew your hair out and dressed like Jordan Belfort? Yeah,

14:10

who's Jordan Belfort again? Is that a river?

14:12

Oh God. You know what? It's

14:14

over. So then we go to

14:16

Lindsey and Carl's apartment and Lindsey is picking

14:18

up laundry off the floor and

14:21

she's like, babe, do you have any lights?

14:25

Which if the question is lights on, I'm not sure

14:27

Carl does these days. He's

14:30

just sort of looking like sad and vacant. Mine

14:32

is eyes could be so miserable in this situation.

14:35

So she's collecting laundry

14:37

and everything. That's interesting because there's like a more

14:39

light, a huge more life neon sign and he's

14:41

like dead behind the eyes and it's just the

14:44

juxtaposition. I know. Yeah,

14:46

babe, I can't find more lights.

14:48

More lights! The

14:50

fact that more life is framed

14:53

on this dead on the vine

14:55

relationship is amazing. And

14:57

last week his stepfather was

14:59

wearing a more life shirt as he was like, Ron girl,

15:01

you in danger girl. I

15:07

learned that from Ariana. You in

15:09

danger girl. So you can

15:11

just tell that they hate each other just by the

15:13

way Carl responds. When she says, do you have any

15:15

lights? As in like, you know, like colored laundry or

15:17

whatever. He goes, oh, I do not

15:20

know. Oh,

15:22

like, okay, this is, this

15:24

is a couple that does not communicate because most

15:26

couples, if you say, do you have any light

15:28

lights or whites or whatever? He's like, no. He's

15:31

like, oh, I'm trying to

15:34

guess. Is there a right answer to this? Am

15:36

I gonna write? I just got so nervous. Well, he's

15:38

like, oh, I don't want her to do my laundry.

15:40

She's not touching my laundry. Cause all he wears are

15:42

white pants. Of course he has lights. Yes,

15:45

he has lights. He just doesn't want her doing

15:47

his laundry or something. So now he's

15:49

like sitting on the sofa and she's like, so

15:51

how was your week? How was your visit?

15:53

How was your mom and Lou? Oh,

15:57

y'all, it was good. I, I. really

16:00

enjoyed hanging out. Yeah.

16:03

The Jersey Shore. Is that really worth it? You

16:05

can do it. Go ahead. Talk to him after.

16:11

I saw my, my

16:14

mother and, um, did

16:17

not get a job. Oh, you're just

16:19

going to be really nervous right now. I'm

16:22

just like really overwhelmed. I'm just like, like,

16:24

I want to take this sentence just like a little bit slower. Literally

16:27

hard talking. She was like, she was

16:29

like, okay, okay, okay. Come on. Come

16:33

on. Well, I love seeing

16:35

my mom, obviously. Um,

16:39

okay. Well, did they give you

16:41

any advice? Which

16:43

is an odd question. This is all leading me

16:45

to believe that she's like, how did it go?

16:47

Well, we can talk about it later. And she's

16:50

like, okay, so we have to wait for the cameras to

16:52

be here for us to talk about it. It's

16:54

like a reality show couple, you know? Cause

16:56

she's like, okay, let's get to it. What

16:58

was he advice? Because he's like, um, hmm.

17:02

Trying to think whether he like

17:04

nuggets, um, like

17:06

he's such a bad liar too. And she,

17:09

this is, this is the side of Lindsay that I

17:11

love is that like she sees,

17:13

and she's so perceptive. Like there's certain

17:15

things that she's not perceptive about at

17:17

all. She's totally clueless about, but when

17:20

she sees like a guy bullshitting her,

17:22

like she knows you cannot, like

17:24

you cannot hide the bullshit from Lindsay and her

17:26

eyes are just like, they're narrowing

17:28

and like, she's got that terminator view

17:30

on and she sees Carl trying to

17:33

do some bullshit as he's like, um,

17:35

y'all try to think of there was

17:37

any nuggets from this conversation. And

17:41

it's not just a guy, it's Carl. She's

17:43

dated Carl before and she's been treated like

17:45

shit by Carl before. So she knows all

17:48

this. She knows this routine, right? So she's

17:50

like, and also I think production must've said

17:52

something to her because who, who asks, Hey,

17:54

how was it with your mom and dad? Did they

17:57

give you any advice? Well, I've never,

18:01

To be fair, I can imagine Carl saying, hey, I'm

18:03

going to the Jersey Shore, I just want to get

18:05

some advice from my mom. Am I?

18:07

About what? Just, you know, just some

18:09

advice just about things. It's cool. So

18:11

he knows he's like, okay, so how about advice?

18:14

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then he's like, well obviously they're asking

20:17

about the wedding. I mean, what's going on? How are

20:19

we doing? Making sure that we're on track? I got

20:21

my head on straight? Do I have any lights? I

20:23

said, no, no, I don't have any lights. Where are

20:25

you asking me? I'm

20:28

not too stressed. I want to make sure I'm not too stressed.

20:30

God, I'm so... Am I stressed? I'm

20:32

feeling really stressed. Why are you yelling at me? Why

20:35

are you yelling at me? You know, I can't

20:37

be mad at my parents for being real with

20:39

me, but what I do with that from here,

20:41

like that's a big decision. I'm like, just trying

20:43

to figure that out. I'm just trying to take

20:45

it slow, okay? It's hard, okay? Because we haven't

20:47

been in a great spot. My parents know we

20:49

haven't been in a great spot because I

20:51

always throw Lindsey under the bus when I talk to them.

20:53

So like right now, we're in a better spot.

20:55

So like it's just like this weird feeling because I don't want to

20:57

go down this road when we've been healing, you know what I'm saying?

21:00

I'm like, okay, Carl. So

21:03

he's like, well, I like hearing from my parents,

21:05

but I feel like, you know, Lindsey, I'm going

21:07

to do what I want no matter what. Just,

21:09

um, well, what does that mean?

21:11

I mean... It's so bad. What

21:14

did they say? He's like, well, I mean, just in trouble,

21:16

you know? Like they want to make sure we're in a

21:18

good place before we're getting married. I mean, if my parents

21:20

told me like, you

21:22

know what I mean? I'm just going to do what I want. But if

21:24

they're like, I'm

21:27

still going to be like, well, I'm going to do what I want

21:29

anyway. But if they're like, I'm still going

21:31

to be like, I'm going to do

21:33

what I... What does that mean? What did they say?

21:36

No, they said that

21:38

they love you. And

21:41

they said, um, you know what? Like if I

21:43

decide to ruin my life this way, it's fine.

21:45

I said, guys, stop it. What? No,

21:47

they didn't say anything. It was cool. I said it was cool. You

21:52

know, I said, I'm always like just trying to work through

21:54

this and I just, I just want more of the support,

21:56

not the questioning. And she's like, questioning

21:58

from them? Or.

22:01

For me all I mean.

22:04

I'm them. I mean Not them.

22:07

Still, Preserving, I'm in. No.

22:09

You. I'm. Not your groceries and

22:11

or in our. Sleep. Role

22:13

in a resort to so is clearly seen

22:15

her since ago. So are you talking about

22:18

me May like no no no no no

22:20

no no no them. I mean as I

22:22

do support us I mean they're dirt So

22:24

supportive of me leaving Do? But and that's

22:27

what I'm hoping for is that support you

22:29

know moving too slowly towards of members remember

22:31

religious and I reminded them that were both

22:33

committed to working through it and I'm not

22:35

trying to prove anyone wrong especially them. Pretty.

22:38

Much about what climbing? How much I love you

22:40

of course, what else I mean and as as

22:42

crazy as like know it's like I just i

22:45

just i just know that I love you and

22:47

I gonna do what I wanna do even if

22:49

they're just like standing on the side of the

22:51

road going. And

22:55

see is the himself into such a whole because

22:57

it's like one wrong word and she picks up

22:59

on us and so is like a missile do

23:01

when I'm your do. I'm.

23:04

Are they telling you that we said frank

23:06

up Is that not all Another note I

23:08

was like i wanna get some are hot

23:10

pockets and they said don't get those not

23:13

for know our nobody to burn your bowels

23:15

on armor do I'm in their mouths as

23:17

I visited our vows like pretty mellow out

23:19

the moment I think I. Am

23:22

bet. He's clearly trying to get a

23:24

reaction out of her. And I think

23:26

see nose at this point we're carlos up to my seen

23:28

as Carl well enough and she's just not going to give

23:30

it to him and he does it again later in the

23:32

episode. Trying. To pull her

23:34

into this thing where is like will basically the

23:37

hate you saw it on some my parents they

23:39

fucking hate your guts and they were warning me

23:41

but I'm gonna do when I want to anyway

23:43

As clear as day would he say I am

23:46

if I had of getting pissed see society so

23:48

they want us to break up as I were

23:50

you know what would never ahmed I love you

23:52

of course when as but you know I'm in

23:54

a do what I want know what they want

23:57

said him icebreaker oh I. See

23:59

some. I'm going to give him the reacts me wants

24:02

and watching him tap dance still trying get it over

24:04

and over is. It

24:06

was beautiful. speed of like the I

24:08

was like. It was amazing. Tv

24:10

I my take on that like a little different.

24:13

It's not the as may not be a

24:15

competing take, but my take on it is

24:17

that Carl. Does. He can't

24:19

deal with conflict, especially because he kind

24:21

of stokes it. And then he's like

24:24

uncomfortable when there is conflict. So we

24:26

kind of like. He lets on that

24:28

he's unhappy with Lindsay to his parents

24:30

and they're like, well, you know what,

24:32

you should not get married right now

24:34

and because he wants someone to say

24:36

that and then. Then. It but

24:38

then he sits with and always feels awkward. He

24:40

knows his can see it's we feels like he's

24:42

can get in trouble so he feels like he

24:44

needs to serve like let on some of that.

24:47

So. Where can like eases the depression attention

24:49

of the inside and it's sixty Consider was

24:51

like a little loud but not too much

24:53

and that will ease everything. but he's like

24:55

wait what what what what and a new

24:57

the Ah does try to like about of

24:59

it so such as to me it's not

25:01

that he's trying to get a reaction to

25:03

me, it's sad like he can't deal with

25:05

the masses made so he just getting more

25:07

messes to draw the I do. I definitely

25:09

see if ever I see him trying to

25:12

trigger her on purpose to make him ass

25:14

out of herself on tv cause I think

25:16

the only way that he can communicate is

25:18

with yelling when they're screaming and fighting is

25:20

at each other that the only time he

25:22

gets without worry that you called me a

25:24

copy had and you did this and that

25:26

pays me. I'm right, you're doing. No one

25:28

knows how to communicate and see so good

25:30

at communicating that way because he's always losing

25:32

your temper and it's a habit. Added bonus

25:34

of making him look like the fucking victim.

25:36

So he gets his parents to save us

25:39

on T V Spinney goes to her and

25:41

he's gonna try to throw the parents under

25:43

the bus by being like I didn't say

25:45

this my parents are saying and not meets.

25:47

But she's not getting angry so he's my able

25:49

to communicate what really happened cause this is supposed

25:51

to be a fight for she looks abusive and

25:53

sees doing this to him and he's just poor

25:56

little innocent boy car. Oh, and he's just trying

25:58

to do the right thing by abusively. The and

26:00

make a pair of happy and she's not doing

26:02

it and so he starting to freak out more

26:04

and more cause he's not getting what she was

26:06

bus he knows exactly what he wants him he's

26:08

sit back and give it to Ups and that's

26:11

a good for her to that actually says growth

26:13

on this So I'm I've. You'd. Never

26:15

see them on the so, especially from

26:17

Lindsay. I've never seen Lindsay grow on

26:19

the south so I don't have. She's

26:21

growing as a person or sees is

26:23

getting better at defecting. Manipulation tactics from

26:25

other people can see so many privilege

26:27

of herself our know what it is

26:30

but this is neat to see some

26:32

chains of a I think that the

26:34

he is also. He doesn't

26:36

wanna be a lot he i think crossings never

26:38

wants to be the bad guys so sort of

26:40

aligning with what you have to say like he

26:43

does I think. My. Skip

26:45

Lindsay agitated that ways you can say what's

26:47

truly on his mind and like a lot

26:49

on that it was He feels he the

26:51

phrases in one with the bad guys have

26:53

she's having a reaction Season safe to say

26:56

some because and seemingly the bad guys And

26:58

I think along those lines that. See.

27:01

When she says did they say something.

27:04

He. Could just be like are not on and

27:06

on our that came out wrong but he know

27:08

that America thought because they filmed it. So.

27:11

He doesn't want to be viewed as a liar

27:13

he doesn't want be. He doesn't want to get

27:15

dinged for being a liar, so he's trying to

27:17

kind of be slightly truthful. so he kept his

27:20

used to being a liar be trying to sort

27:22

of like thread that needle where you can be

27:24

just truthful enough that. That. America

27:26

says he's not a liar, but

27:29

not so truthful. Those just tripled

27:31

Lindsay. But Lindsay is too sharp.

27:34

To. Just sort of like let him do

27:36

this little thing and then move on. This

27:38

is like, wait, what was what? What are

27:41

you saying That's my, that's my take on

27:43

it. And so he's like well they do

27:45

support us I do support as a suicide obvious that

27:47

you that's what I'm hoping for and are reminded us

27:49

that we're both going to work through a right because

27:51

like I'm not trying to prove any when wrong I

27:53

just know that I love you and of so gonna

27:55

do when I'm going to do with says. to

27:59

anyone the brain communicating my parents fucking hate you

28:01

right and so she's like so are they telling you

28:03

we should break up and it's like no no no

28:05

she goes yeah but you keep saying I'm gonna do

28:08

what I'm gonna do so I'm

28:10

confused he's like well they just want to make sure

28:12

that we're ready to get married you know can

28:17

I get some more water I don't want water

28:19

I do not want water can I have some

28:21

more water why am I talking like this I

28:24

have dirty white pads don't I tell you that are you

28:26

doing wipes damn it oh he

28:28

has his feet are up on like the Ottoman at the

28:30

coffee table and they're doing like windshield wipers back and forth

28:33

left and right and it's he's talked to

28:35

it put his both hands together and tucked it

28:37

between his thighs so he's just like shaking back

28:39

and forth like yeah no everything's fine oh

28:42

everything's fine like where I totally love you and

28:44

like we're totally gonna get married like that's crazy

28:46

my parents are totally support so then

28:48

I was just like

28:51

so like what's like that like timing

28:53

wise like when they say like are

28:56

we ready to get married like timing

28:58

wise what does that mean well they

29:00

just they just want to make sure

29:02

we're in a good place and like you know my

29:04

parents you know they hear that we've gone to two

29:06

fights to start the summer and that like just makes

29:08

them think like oh they're having a tough time like

29:11

why are they rushing to get married you know like

29:13

why are you marrying that overbearing which I mean their

29:15

words no mind huh we've been racing we're

29:18

rushing he's like whoa no just like

29:20

leaving and we're chasing it more like

29:25

do we even need to be on that bus you know I

29:27

think they're just like they don't want us getting on the wrong

29:29

way what he

29:31

said I keep on messing up I feel

29:34

like part of this is not intentional

29:36

I think that he's just still trying to

29:38

fix what his mess ups and he keeps

29:40

saying more and more words that she has

29:43

I can't get on and look

29:45

who knows who's right or wrong I think what

29:47

you're saying makes sense I just can't completely get

29:49

on board with it because Carl purposely went to

29:51

shoot with them to

29:53

have that scene he went to his parents house

29:56

to shoot this see what else are they gonna talk

29:58

about I mean he wedding season and

30:00

he knows everything that he's told these people

30:03

and he knows that Lou, this is not

30:05

the first time Lou's been like, I'm gonna

30:07

tell it like it is, I'm a minister.

30:09

You know, Lou never shuts the fuck up

30:11

about telling you like it is and he's a minister. You know,

30:13

Lou is like that 24 hours a day. I

30:16

think that Carl knew exactly what he was doing

30:18

and he's just trying to get out of this

30:20

by looking like a fucking victim because he just

30:22

keeps poking. You see, he's doing it this whole

30:24

scene. He could have, like you said earlier, he

30:26

could have just been like, no, no, no, they

30:28

weren't, and we're talking bad about us and just

30:30

move it along, but he has to keep making

30:32

it okay. And then once it's okay, he has

30:34

to keep poking again to get

30:36

her riled up until she's probably where he

30:39

wants him. She won't do it. I

30:41

think one thing we can definitely agree on is

30:43

that like if we were in this and I think

30:45

if most people were in a situation like that,

30:47

they would say, oh yeah, well, I

30:49

told my parents that we had two fights, which I really should not

30:51

have done because like, I don't know what I was thinking. And then

30:54

of course they got nervous and they're like, should you get married? And

30:56

I was like, no, no, no, no. So I just wanted you to

30:58

know, I shouldn't have said it. They

31:00

got a little paranoid. I reassured them everything is

31:02

good now. Everything's good. So, but it was, it's

31:04

fine. Everything's fine. And, you know, sorry I did

31:07

that. Like that's like a nice easy way to

31:09

kind of like to say, yeah, I did it.

31:11

My bad. But him being like, oh

31:13

yeah, no, I mean, they're like, really? He's

31:15

trying to like make like, he's like

31:18

scared that Lindsay's not gonna like his mom anymore.

31:20

He's scared that his mom doesn't like Lindsay. He's

31:22

trying to sort of like bring them together. But

31:25

like at the same time, he

31:28

does not really saying what he really wants out of

31:31

the situation. So it's sort of like coming through in

31:33

these little ways. It's just such a clusterfuck of like

31:35

all of Carl's, all

31:37

of his shortcomings that

31:40

it's hilarious to watch. Yeah.

31:42

I think we can agree that no matter what

31:44

Carl is doing here, he's doing it badly. He's

31:46

doing it wrong. Whatever the motivation

31:48

is. I like both of our theories. It

31:51

could be anything, but whatever it is, he's

31:53

failing at it. He's bad at it. And

31:55

Lindsay is destroying him with her eyes. Yeah,

31:57

and Lindsay knows that he's... full of shit

31:59

and she's like, what choice does she have

32:01

at this point? It's like either yell at

32:03

the guy or just pick, okay. So she's

32:06

like, okay, well rushing to get married, he

32:08

goes, not rushing, but he starts falling all

32:10

over himself again. And she's like, well, it

32:12

concerns me if they're saying that they're worried

32:14

for you to get married to me. And

32:17

he goes, no, no, no, no, no, no. They're

32:19

just worried we're not in a good place. And

32:22

she's like, okay. And he

32:24

goes, let me try this one more time. They're worried that

32:26

if you and I aren't in a good place, then

32:28

the wedding stuff would be a lot of pressure.

32:31

If that were the case, then it would be,

32:33

you know, if then, you know, there was a

32:35

train going down a train track

32:37

at 80 miles per hour and a terrible

32:39

marriage was coming down the other train track

32:41

at 90 miles an hour. Terrible

32:43

marriage. It's a train, Lindsay. It's

32:45

not real. The terrible marriage train was named Lindsay

32:48

and it crashed into the poor, innocent Carl train

32:50

and demolished it and started it on fire. Did

32:52

the little Carl train have moved out of the way?

32:56

Am I a terrorist train? No, no, no, no. I'm

32:59

just trying to say, why are you guys like, it's

33:01

just like a lot of pressure for that little Carl

33:03

train to get a career. It's

33:06

like hard. It just wants to

33:08

be a little train that could not the little train

33:10

that was like forced into like getting a job. It

33:13

was like, it has a lot. That train does have

33:15

passions. And I feel like you don't really recognize that

33:17

even though it was in the station for a

33:20

very long time, like it just needs to travel out

33:22

of the film place. Train

33:25

is literally the train wasn't even coming

33:27

down the track. The train was just sitting there with the

33:29

lights off. Okay. It's

33:31

the little, the little, the little lens in that

33:34

might someday. I don't know. Just

33:37

think, think about things. Okay.

33:39

So, um, she was like, okay,

33:42

well, I guess it's going to be a little

33:44

awkward when I see your mom and

33:46

he's like, oh, I

33:50

purposely make it awkward so that you would start

33:52

something with my mom so she could drop truth

33:55

bombs on you. So I don't have to do

33:57

it. But okay. We'll see how that goes. I'll

34:00

be sure to show up and be an act like

34:02

a fucking prince to everybody I see. Exactly.

34:06

Uh, no matter what the, no matter what the

34:08

theory is that is the closest to the truth,

34:10

one thing that we can never take away from Carl

34:13

is that he has an uncanny ability to pit women

34:15

against each other. So now

34:18

we're at Lindsay's bridal shower and people,

34:20

Rachel from winter house is doing the

34:22

flowers. She got like one second there

34:24

and then people are showing up. Sam

34:26

from last season, oh my God, Sam

34:28

of Sam and Cory iconic duo.

34:31

She shows up, Danielle is there

34:34

and Sam of course is like, oh my God, like

34:36

I brought a bag. I put it over there. There's

34:39

like six toys in it, like outrageous, right? You guys

34:41

want to see some photos of me and Cory together?

34:45

I'm totally fine not being with Cory, but if

34:47

he finds out being with me because he

34:49

can't stop taking Instagrams with smiley faces. All right.

34:54

It's so good to be here. So they're all

34:56

kind of gathering everybody. I have to say,

34:58

I have to say, sorry to interrupt me

35:00

a big, so

35:04

people can't finish that sentence is on their own.

35:06

Like, I was afraid trying to say, I thought

35:09

you were going to zoom forward and I really need

35:11

to take a moment to acknowledge

35:14

that I saw in this group of women that she

35:16

did not get a Chiron, but

35:18

Jacqueline, the fit model from season one. And

35:21

I was so thrilled. No way. Jacqueline,

35:24

the fit model. Yes, she

35:26

was there. Jacqueline was there. I was like,

35:28

wow. Wow. This

35:30

is like Andy's baby

35:32

shower. It's

35:35

like the bad, the team move

35:37

version of, so if they say

35:39

the 10 move version. 10

35:41

move baby shower. Jacqueline from

35:43

summer. I looked her

35:46

up and I like, I cross checked and everything.

35:48

Well, I mean, I like the thing. Well, it's

35:50

not that I don't believe you. I don't remember

35:52

this person at all. I mean, I

35:54

remember the term fit model, but I don't

35:56

remember her. Hold on. Let me

35:58

make it bigger. Oh my god, I

36:00

see a picture of Carl. He's like, hey,

36:02

I'm Carl. I used to have bigger eyebrows,

36:04

and I wore blue pants, which was crazy.

36:06

I'm with the Work-A-Sles, with one of the

36:09

Work-A-Sles, Ever, Kyle, and a

36:11

fit model. So she's real. That's what I was

36:13

about to think. She's real. Ben's not just making

36:15

her up. Okay. Yeah, yeah, there's

36:17

like a treasure trove for people from that first season that I would

36:19

have loved to have seen. It's like, yeah. So,

36:22

Lindsey walks in looking great, and she's

36:24

like, oh my god, oh my god,

36:26

I never got a mirror. Oh

36:29

my god, Riddlejour, I'm a bride. I'm

36:32

a bride. Her

36:35

name is Jacqueline Schumann, but

36:38

her Instagram name is Jaxhuman. She's

36:42

human, guys. It's confirmed. The

36:44

fit model has to say. Guys, I

36:47

may be one of the hottest fit models you've ever

36:49

seen, but I'm human. Okay. I'm human.

36:52

There was some discussion. Is she a cactus?

36:54

But guess what? We've confirmed. Jacqueline is a

36:56

human. Jaxhuman, guys. Okay,

36:59

where were we? Sorry, everybody. People just,

37:01

but Lindsey walking in and saying, I'm

37:03

a bride, I'm a bride. And

37:06

making us all cringe. We

37:08

knew Lindsey was gonna do this, and she

37:11

is doing it. She's spending her bridal season

37:13

just walking into everywhere going, I'm a

37:15

bride now, this is like my turn. It's

37:17

like a my turn to be a bride. Yes.

37:21

And she tells us a really special moment with

37:23

the strong women who've been in her life to

37:25

celebrate the new chapter, yada, yada. So

37:28

Sharon arrives. Sharon does her little curtsy thing, because that's her

37:30

bit when she shows up to her room. She does a

37:33

little fake curtsy. And then

37:35

Sharon's so happy, she's just smiling.

37:37

And then Gabby and Sam are

37:39

sharing a picture. Sharon's not sick and happy. What are you

37:41

talking about? Sorry,

37:43

that was a little mean. I didn't

37:45

mean it to sound that mean. I'm just like,

37:48

what is Sharon happy about? She's thinking her son's

37:50

about to marry a terrorist. She's

37:52

not stuck in that psychedelic red candy

37:54

cane, red house. She's like, oh my

37:56

God, I got out of the house. She's

37:58

like, got away from her. from Lou. He can't

38:00

stop telling it like it is because he's a

38:03

minister. Jesus Christ. I get it. You

38:05

want me to do the dishes after I eat

38:07

breakfast in the morning? Some of us like to

38:09

last for lunch. Am I right? Damn

38:11

it Lou. So they're all

38:13

eating. Amanda's like, potato chips

38:16

and caviar. It's the best

38:18

combination ever. I'm like,

38:20

wow, you're really even making this

38:22

luxury sound sad and boring.

38:26

And then Sam, of course, Sam is also

38:29

adding salt to future wounds. I said to

38:31

Lindsay, you should get married every year so

38:33

we can keep doing this stuff. Like

38:37

there's nothing like eating caviar

38:39

and potato chips while you're listening to someone talking

38:41

about how it's finally their turn to be the

38:43

bride. Am I right? It's like my favorite song

38:46

of the year. Like

38:48

the jam of the summer. Come to bride

38:50

now. I'm the bride now. So

38:55

Lindsay says more. This is like last

38:57

year on Band of Pump Rules when Ariana kept

38:59

on saying really cringe worthy stuff

39:01

that was like nice about Sandoval. And now we have

39:03

at Lindsay. So now she's talking to us, her stepmom,

39:05

and she's like, can you believe that we're here? I

39:08

remember telling you and dad, I don't think it's ever

39:10

going to happen for me. And I just kind of

39:12

feel really good. Like Carl and I have issues, but

39:14

like everybody has issues. Am

39:16

I right? I'm right. So

39:19

Lindsay is in such

39:22

a Lindsay space today where she's mad

39:24

at Sharon, but she knows she

39:26

can't yell at this woman on TV. Normally

39:28

Lindsay's way of just dealing with anything would

39:30

be to scream at the person, berate them,

39:32

and let them have it in front of

39:34

everybody at the party. Right? Yeah, but she

39:36

can't because it's Sharon. So instead she just,

39:39

Sharon's on the other, she's got the two moms

39:41

on either side. So she turns her back all

39:43

the way to Sharon and she's like, all the

39:45

way. Hi mom. So here's a nice thing. Here's

39:48

some deep things about my relationship. It has problems,

39:50

but it's fine. And

39:52

Sharon's like, hello, Lindsay. I'm

39:55

right here. You're so

39:57

far away from me. And she's like, oh, you think you

39:59

can scoot closer. We're just having some mommy daughter

40:01

talks. You can join mommy daughter and talk

40:03

if you want to Kill

40:07

her this is amazing This

40:10

is one of the scariest Lindsay seems at

40:12

all time Just cuz Lindsay had that smile

40:14

on her face and her eyes were rageful

40:16

And she was like if she could have

40:18

strangled Sharon in that moment She would have

40:20

and because the way that Sharon sort of

40:22

like flops her hand onto Lindsay's shoulder like

40:24

Lindsay You're so far away. Oh No,

40:28

you're gonna touch me now knows

40:32

Exactly what Lindsay is thinking too I mean,

40:35

I yeah Sharon seems to really and I

40:37

love how Sharon is dealing with it cuz

40:39

she's just giggling like she's got this

40:41

Little head is a little girl thing where

40:43

she's like Lindsay. You're just so far away

40:46

from me I'm like, oh my god

40:48

Sharon is like I'm not scared of you,

40:50

bitch Yeah, bring it on if

40:52

you've got something to say bring it on

40:55

I will take you down. You're messing with

40:57

my boy And

41:00

Lindsay's just gritting her teeth like oh,

41:02

yeah Here's

41:05

my mother who doesn't criticize your

41:07

son when I say we have

41:09

issues It's

41:13

just well, I don't know if I should get mixed

41:15

up in mommy daughter stuff, I mean that's important she

41:17

goes Well,

41:20

you can I Know

41:25

I'm sharing pretty much as long as

41:27

I'm on Carl So I'm excited to

41:29

have Sharon as a mother-in-law, but can

41:31

it feel like a tinge of awkwardness

41:34

because she's a total bitch I mean, I'll just say it I'm

41:44

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42:44

Carolyn has been mothering me since I was three

42:46

and Sharon's like, well, you certainly are lucky, aren't

42:49

you? And so Lindsay grabs

42:51

both of their shoulders and she's like, me and

42:53

my mom. Sharon's

42:56

like, you know when it's said

42:58

out loud like that, it really sort

43:00

of just hangs in the air. Ooh.

43:06

So now people

43:08

are schmoozing and

43:10

someone's like, so Sharon, you look so pretty.

43:12

I love your dress. Sharon, oh my God, your dress

43:14

is so gorgeous. But you can have one at the

43:16

wedding. And she's like, talk to Lindsay. She has a

43:18

whole palette. So I'm not really 100%. I

43:22

was hoping to wear something by

43:24

that new designer if probably

43:26

not. So

43:30

then Lindsay comes right on up and goes,

43:32

isn't it great that Sharon came to this

43:34

party? Wow, was it hard clearing the rocks

43:36

out of your cave? Just

43:40

to get out? Oh,

43:42

Lindsay. Of course

43:45

I came. I'm the mother of the groom.

43:47

I have to come. You don't

43:49

have to, but I'm glad

43:51

you did. I hope you

43:54

brought your usual zip locks in your

43:56

purse so you could take some of

43:58

this free food home. Oh,

44:01

yes, I want to bring Lou

44:03

some food so we can see how

44:06

bad food can be at such an expensive

44:08

event. Really excited for him to

44:10

see that. I can't wait to see

44:12

Lou tell it like it is to a piece of

44:15

gelatinous chicken. Oh,

44:18

look, here's a half-eaten breadstick.

44:21

That was me. That was me, Sam. I

44:23

ate half. So

44:28

she's like, oh, Lindsay, I wouldn't have

44:30

missed it. And she's like, well, it

44:32

really means a lot to me. And

44:34

I talked to Carl earlier, and he

44:36

was telling me that you guys talked

44:38

at the Jersey Shore and you kind

44:40

of man them. I'm

44:42

sure he goes, yeah, yeah,

44:45

yeah. As any parent does when

44:48

their son is slated to marry

44:51

a real life witch. So, you know, it's

44:53

natural. Yeah, and

44:55

she's like, yeah, you mentioned that you have some

44:57

concerns about us getting married and that broke my

44:59

heart a little bit, Sharon, because

45:01

I was like, oh, no. And

45:04

then Sharon, I started

45:06

calling Sharon Janet, by the way. It's

45:10

in the notes. So

45:12

Sharon just hovered. I was like, what? I was like, Janet's

45:14

in this? I started thinking about the valley. I was like,

45:16

what's Janet doing here? That was my fault. Ronnie and I

45:18

are sharing notes. And I started, I

45:20

turned from Sharon to Janet. I don't know what

45:22

happened. Apologies. But

45:25

Sharon basically said, Lindsay's like, yeah, I kind of

45:27

like broke my heart a little bit because I

45:29

heard you had some doubts. And Sharon just hugs

45:31

her to be like, there, there, stupid one. Stop

45:34

talking. I'm just going to

45:36

I'm just going to say I'm just going to pretend

45:38

to love on you right now when it's just going

45:41

to stop you from saying anything to my face. Right,

45:43

because she's like, I don't think Sharon's afraid of her. I

45:46

just think she's like, Carl's not going to get me to

45:48

break up with this girl. Let's

45:51

face it, Sharon knows Carl like she can see what

45:53

Carl is doing. I don't think she really expects to

45:55

break up with Lindsay, but she's like, I'm not going

45:57

to have this out with Lindsay. I'm like, what the?

46:00

Fuck call Well,

46:03

I just don't I you know, I said to Carl's

46:05

like I just like don't want your parents to worry,

46:07

you know I just want

46:09

them to live their happy life watching NCIS

46:11

in a house with strange red carpets Middle

46:14

of some state that's not New York City. So

46:16

that's all Yeah,

46:18

and so she doesn't say anything right? She's just

46:20

like look I know that there was a fight

46:22

in the early part of the summer and so

46:24

Lindsay's like yeah in the early part of the

46:26

Summer but she's referring to the coke fight, right?

46:28

Right and Sharon's like all the sudden cuz Sharon's

46:31

kind of getting called out right now And

46:33

you know, I think that Sharon and Carl are

46:35

not they don't love confrontation So Sharon starts flapping

46:37

her hands everywhere. She's like, oh, well, you know,

46:39

there was some sort of like Fight

46:42

that I had heard about at some point, you

46:44

know, just you know, a parent will we'll get

46:46

worried a little bit You know nothing nothing too

46:48

crazy Well Lindsay

46:50

knows because she knows how to communicate

46:53

with Carl therefore She knows how to

46:55

communicate with that who made

46:57

him so she's like, okay well if

46:59

you're referencing the beginning of the summer

47:01

you're talking about cokehead Carl fight or

47:03

cocaine Carl fight and So

47:05

she knows what she's referring to you So

47:07

she's like, you know Look, I've never been

47:09

in a relationship with anyone suffering or dealing

47:11

with an addiction and I try to do

47:13

the best that I can To support it,

47:15

but it's also new to me too, which

47:17

is fair, right and Janet's like, well, that's

47:19

hard and I get that It's hard Lindsay.

47:21

It's all hard. It's all hard Lindsay. Okay

47:24

But I am looking forward to having you in the family

47:28

You know, we need someone to throw Crackers

47:31

out at Christmas. So

47:33

Lindsay's like yeah, and by the way, of

47:35

course It's fair to have trouble being in

47:37

a relationship with someone in an addiction and

47:40

there is no rulebook for it Calling

47:42

them cocaine Carl though is not really fair.

47:44

Yeah, let's not about America. I know I

47:46

can't Carl Lindsay a lot but I'm

47:49

gonna draw a lot but we will forget

47:51

Lindsay's also in faint That was terrible Lindsay

47:53

did like that She was a hundred percent

47:55

wrong in that situation and apparently by the

47:57

way it happened before even shooting began because

47:59

Carl had retreated to New Jersey around

48:02

Memorial Day weekend. So Lindsay is

48:04

like, yes, there is no real book

48:06

and it is really hard. But like

48:08

one way of dealing with it is not accusing

48:10

your fiance of being

48:13

on coke. So Lindsay is like,

48:15

well, Sharon, if there's any way I

48:17

can reassure you, I can, I don't know,

48:19

find some back issues of TV guy

48:22

that you can gather and bring back to Lou be

48:24

kind of like fun. If I can do any sort

48:26

of fun gesture like that, the show, I really care

48:28

about you and Carl. I'll do it. And

48:31

so she goes, what can I do? And so Janet's like,

48:33

you just have to love that boy. And

48:35

she's like, I do and I love you too. So they

48:37

hug. And so

48:40

Janet's like, listen, if we have questions, it's because

48:42

we want the best for you. Okay,

48:44

so now they're, they make up and Lindsay's like,

48:46

oh God, okay, good. Now I'm excited for you

48:48

to be my mother in law. And she goes,

48:50

well, hey, Lauren work is thought I'd be a

48:52

great mother in law. Oh

48:55

God. You see,

48:57

you believe in this chick and then

49:00

look what she does. She knows what

49:02

she's fucking doing. This woman created Carl and don't

49:04

you guys forget it? But

49:06

also, but I allow it. Like,

49:09

yeah, I'm like, yes, wait, it's

49:11

a mom being passive aggressive. And

49:13

you know, I'm like, yes, Janet.

49:15

I mean, Sharon is my God.

49:17

I, this is really my fault. I

49:20

had us all calling us her Janet and

49:22

just the past 10 minutes. Okay. So

49:24

then I said, you're right. I really liked that. She's

49:27

not afraid of Lindsay at all. And

49:29

she's not going to let Lindsay get away with one

49:31

little damn thing. You know, she was like, okay, nice

49:34

to make up. Don't forget about Lauren work. I really

49:36

don't forget. You're basically as good as Lauren workers

49:38

right now. And you'd be in Lauren on a

49:40

way. Lauren's her

49:42

sister had the baby. Nevermind. Go

49:44

ahead. They're both bad babies at this point.

49:46

I think. Oh, really? Yeah.

49:49

So Lindsay goes, wait, who? So

49:53

then we have Kate, this girl, Katie, who

49:55

starts clinking for a toast. And I'm pretty

49:57

sure Katie was also from season one. I

49:59

think she was a. friend of. I think

50:01

that when Lindsay got into, had

50:03

like a falling out with Christina, that she started

50:05

leaning on Katie. I think it was like Katie,

50:07

Lindsay, and Christina were like a trio. There was

50:09

all sorts of fun dynamics that happened in season

50:12

one. Season one of the show was amazing in

50:14

my book. So Katie is back, I think.

50:17

We need some verification. But

50:19

it's time for Lindsay to open up gifts.

50:21

So the first gift, Lindsay's sitting there and

50:23

she opens it up. She goes, oh my

50:25

god, sandwiches! But

50:28

it's actually lingerie. Lingerie in

50:30

the shape of sandwiches, which, you

50:33

know, you gotta love modern technology. She

50:36

really made that sandwich thing a thing. I mean,

50:38

that's her thing now. So

50:41

then comes the prince. Hey

50:43

everybody, thank God I was the one in

50:45

my household to think to do the lights,

50:47

because here I am in

50:50

white pants to say,

50:52

hello, hello, it's me, Prince Charming

50:54

everybody. More

50:57

life, more life, send it more

50:59

life. I hated this. I

51:02

hated this. First of all, I don't like it.

51:04

Like if it's a, if there's like a bridal

51:06

shower, I feel like when

51:10

you do that, you're making about you in a

51:12

certain way and you're like being, it's very like

51:14

public facing. It's very presentational. Like look just what,

51:16

exactly what you just said. It's like, look at

51:18

me, I'm the Prince Charming. I'm the great husband.

51:21

I'm the great God. Look at me coming in,

51:23

being so sweet and cute and adorable little boy.

51:25

I just, I

51:27

think I should have been Lindsay's event and Carl just does his

51:29

own thing. Well, I'm

51:32

assuming that Lindsay made him come. This

51:34

one's being Carly and Carl, Carly, my

51:36

sister. My sister's Carly. Sorry Carly. Carly,

51:39

that's so cool that you showed us.

51:45

Yeah, I'm assuming she knew who's gonna come. I

51:47

mean, I don't know, but yeah, I just don't

51:50

like it because obviously I think Carl's like a

51:52

huge manipulator. So him showing up when he's sewing,

51:54

when he's sewing all this other stuff behind the

51:56

scenes and then showing up to be like, hey

51:58

everybody, it's me Prince. charming. It's just doing the

52:01

whole like, God, I sure love

52:03

Lindsay so much. And I'm so proud of

52:05

like surely nothing can go wrong. It's just

52:07

a little like, oh, I think it

52:09

was for his mom. And I'm not even joking.

52:12

I think this moment was about Hey, Bob,

52:14

look, I'm like a great, I'm a great,

52:16

I'm a great kid. Look at me. Look

52:18

at me showing up. I'm handsome. And I do the right thing. So

52:21

Carl is he's like, you know, I know

52:23

the road hasn't been easy. And we've had

52:25

ups and downs. But the takeaway I had

52:28

for my parents in New Jersey is that

52:30

this is the time to really figure out

52:33

the stuff and commit and I want to get married

52:36

to someone. And I love Lindsay.

52:38

I hope she

52:40

finds a great husband someday. I know we can

52:42

make this work. And I make it work. We

52:44

can make her moving out of my life work.

52:46

So I'm excited right now. I know we can

52:48

make this work. Even if she

52:51

can't make me work. Okay. So

52:55

when she's trying to clean her glass, and

52:57

it's just like, because she filled

53:00

the entire glass, like, are those plastic? Is

53:02

that a water bottle? Whatever. Okay, I give

53:09

up. I was like, this is this is

53:11

a this is a metaphor, not

53:13

getting a beautiful sound out of the clink

53:15

and just giving up the glass won't even

53:17

be a part of this. So

53:19

Lindsay is like, I'm getting a misfang. I

53:22

like girls and girls are girls and speeches

53:24

are love and love is people and I'm

53:26

getting married and it's my turn. Yeah, and

53:29

everyone's like, Oh my god, Lindsay and

53:31

Carl's just like, wow, wow, man, that

53:33

was amazing. Did everybody hear that? That

53:35

was my wife up there. I was

53:38

amazing. Great speech, my life. So

53:44

now it's time to go back to the

53:46

Hamptons. And so I was actually like,

53:48

sad. I was like, I'm loving this New York thing

53:50

that we're doing right now. This situation is great. But

53:52

we'll go back to the Hamptons. People

53:54

are driving together page and CRR driving talking

53:57

about the bridal shower

53:59

and patient. tells us that Lindsay did invite her

54:01

to the bridal shower and it was like a

54:03

really big olive branch. That page

54:05

does not take lightly. And

54:08

she's like, I feel like a really

54:10

big shift in Lindsay's attitude and demeanor

54:12

towards everyone. It's like, dare I say,

54:14

she's being very nice. Weird.

54:17

I'm gonna come to you. Yeah. And

54:20

I think that Lindsay is being nice, especially to

54:22

Paige, which is odd, but I

54:24

think that Lindsay has been humbled in a

54:26

way and actually respects Paige now because she

54:29

is trying to be what Paige is, right?

54:31

She was trying to do the influencer thing.

54:34

So I think she looks at Paige as a

54:36

leader in the industry now. She's gonna give her

54:38

some respect. Yeah, but

54:40

Paige is like, look, Miss

54:42

Manners, I'm not gonna go

54:45

to the bridal shower if I'm not invited to the

54:47

wedding, so hello. Meanwhile, Jesse and

54:49

Wes are driving together and Wes

54:51

has talked about how he was doing some

54:53

more stuff for that complex job he was

54:55

interviewing for. And Jesse is

54:58

also talking about how he has his

55:00

five-year checkup for cancer coming up this

55:02

Tuesday. And so he's really trying not

55:04

to focus on it. And the joking

55:06

about getting, how he's not gonna get

55:09

a boner because his seven-year-old doctor's gonna

55:11

be fiddling around with his

55:13

nuts during it, just like guy talk. And

55:17

Sierra's like, I haven't seen Wes and I

55:19

miss him. It's crazy. And dude,

55:21

aren't these two crazy kids in love? I'm

55:25

getting the impression in this

55:27

episode that Sierra likes Wes'

55:29

personality, but she's got the

55:31

chemistry with Jesse, no? Did

55:34

you get that? When she was kind

55:36

of mean to Jesse later for no reason,

55:39

I was like, I think she likes him.

55:41

Maybe she's sexually attracted to Jesse, but she

55:43

likes Wes' personality. And so it's like, yeah,

55:45

it could be. So

55:49

Wes and Jesse are not talking.

55:51

He's like, hey, Wes, Wes is like, hey, as

55:53

summer ends, do you think

55:55

you wanna go into cozy season with a shorty? Jesse's

55:57

like, I've been single for so

55:59

long. long like I don't

56:01

even pay attention to season

56:03

anymore and he's like yeah I

56:06

mean but what if the right person comes along you

56:08

think you're just gonna stop fucking every girl and just

56:10

like a drop the hat and he's like yeah absolutely

56:12

absolutely we'll do that to which we all know

56:15

no he won't and

56:18

Wes is like yeah but I'm like afraid

56:20

of that like not having sex like that's

56:22

gonna be crazy like but haven't you already

56:24

stopped that like haven't you already stopped having

56:26

bags and bro and he's like uh

56:30

meanwhile at the house Gabby

56:33

and Dan the L arrived Daniel's

56:35

like dick dong dick dong we're

56:37

here Gabby's arranging

56:39

a dinner tonight and she's gonna have an

56:42

astrologer come later to do some readings so

56:44

they're excited for that and then Carl's like

56:46

hey Joseph all of it what's

56:49

up my man look I'm still bro oh here's

56:51

a rose by the way so I'm gonna get

56:53

roses today and

56:55

pages like oh my god if you guys ever go out

56:57

together people will be like are you guys twins you're so

57:00

tall that people can't even see that your faces are different

57:03

they're just clouds in front of them because you're

57:05

so tall just

57:09

like there's cloud one and cloud two I hope

57:12

Mario can jump on them to get all those extra

57:14

coins up above ow

57:17

your face just threw a spiky ball at me oh

57:20

my god that cloud is fishing it's

57:22

getting weird oh my

57:24

god the Carl cloud totally

57:26

pulled my car off the side of

57:29

the road thanks the Carl cloud just

57:31

told me that it doesn't have any

57:33

lights but it's white I can

57:36

imagine Lindsay

57:43

trying to wash a cloud so Lindsay is

57:45

talking to Gabby about the astrology

57:53

radar and even a bus is open

57:55

to it guys and so Lindsay is

57:57

like Lindsay just turns

58:00

to They're all sitting outside talking and

58:02

she turns to us and she's like so

58:04

are you exclusive with Sierra? And he's like,

58:06

uh, no, I mean, that's just a weird

58:08

pigeonhole. Like we're not having sex but we're

58:10

exclusive Okay,

58:13

so are you I don't think that's a

58:15

weird pigeonhole. I Don't

58:17

want to fuck like what what part of me? I

58:20

don't I don't think that somebody's saying I don't want to

58:22

fuck you I don't want to I

58:24

don't want to fuck you while you're fucking a million people Well,

58:27

I think that would be normal a normal thing to

58:30

say now. I maybe

58:32

my normal like He's

58:36

like, I don't want to

58:38

be exclusive like I'm

58:40

being exclusive and But

58:43

then I'm like shutting everything out, but I can't

58:45

be intimate with this woman. It's weird So

58:47

I get it. Like I think you're right to like

58:49

I think it's I'm gonna take that on two Tuesday

58:52

dates So I don't know. I don't

58:55

know. I just think this sometimes I have this

58:57

thing of like, why would I

58:59

stop fucking other people? I haven't

59:01

even fucked her yet How would I know if I'm

59:03

gonna be exclusive for I think if you've talked to

59:05

someone like Sierra who's just told you She's

59:07

been fucked over by dudes and

59:10

she's not giving it up Right

59:12

away because she's learned her lesson with that that

59:14

your response is like, okay Well, I'm just gonna

59:16

keep fucking other people. So let me know when

59:19

you when it's fucking time. This is weird I

59:21

think I would think if you want to like

59:23

if you want to attract somebody like that You'd

59:25

be like, I'm not having sex with you mate.

59:27

I'm with anybody else. Maybe it'll work out with

59:29

you Maybe it won't but I don't need to

59:31

fuck half the city while I wait to find

59:34

out because you're more than just like a fucking

59:36

fuck toy Yeah, I think

59:38

just it's probably a semantic thing cuz I feel

59:40

like with exclusive. It's like exclusive

59:42

is basically a way

59:44

of people saying we're boyfriend girlfriend without saying

59:47

we're boyfriend girlfriend and so it's like she's

59:49

like I don't know if I want to

59:51

be like well, that's true have a full

59:53

like we're in a relationship when there's this

59:55

whole like Like there's

59:57

a whole side that I want to explore

1:00:00

first or whatever. I mean, I agree with what you're

1:00:02

saying. I think that's because you're not getting some... Well,

1:00:05

I think I should have waited until after the next

1:00:07

line. Because... This

1:00:09

is where about a opinion really comes

1:00:11

from. So go on, sorry. But go

1:00:13

right. But I agree with that. It's

1:00:15

like we've been dating for a while

1:00:17

and... We've been dating for a while

1:00:19

and now we've been dating and we

1:00:21

decided we should really be boyfriend and

1:00:23

girlfriend, but there's clearly this thing

1:00:26

of from her more like, I don't want

1:00:28

to get burned by you, so I want

1:00:30

to take my time. And then I feel

1:00:32

like it's... I wouldn't... I

1:00:35

think it's reasonable to be like, I don't know if I

1:00:37

would... Right. But I don't know where I was coming from

1:00:39

with after this next line. So let's just go to the

1:00:42

next line. So it makes more sense. Daniel Shakerhead. Are you

1:00:44

texting other girls? Are you texting other girls?

1:00:46

Is the door to open to other girls still? And he's

1:00:48

like, well, I would say the door is open

1:00:50

to other girls, but I haven't shot down

1:00:53

every check. So that's the thing. I think

1:00:56

exclusive maybe is too far, but I don't think

1:00:58

it's too crazy for someone to be like, oh,

1:01:00

wow, you're... by the way, none of this happens.

1:01:02

This is all hypothetical. But I don't think it

1:01:04

would be crazy for someone to be like, oh,

1:01:06

this guy likes me and is flirting with me

1:01:08

every week and obviously and says openly that he

1:01:10

wants something with me. So maybe

1:01:12

he's not going to fuck every girl he sees in a

1:01:15

bar. You know? Yeah. I mean,

1:01:17

look, it's not a turn on to be

1:01:19

like, oh, yeah, you seem cool. Oh, you're

1:01:21

talking to other girls. Great. Like I

1:01:24

totally understand what Sierra is doing. And I

1:01:26

think that she's totally entitled to go at

1:01:28

whatever pace she wants to go. And I

1:01:32

think that, yeah, why

1:01:36

would you want to sleep with someone,

1:01:38

especially after you've dealt with Austin, who

1:01:41

is sleeping with other people too, when

1:01:44

you just want to know that someone cares about you

1:01:47

and is not going to hurt you? But I think that's

1:01:49

just in terms of elevating it to boyfriend girlfriends. I like,

1:01:51

literally, I don't even know. Yeah. I actually don't care. And

1:01:53

also, Wes has the right today. He's not in a relationship.

1:01:55

So he has the right to sleep with whoever he wants.

1:01:57

I'm just saying if you really want something with someone like

1:01:59

Sierra... The you're probably the best

1:02:01

way to go about it is probably not being like

1:02:03

yeah I'm still banging other people because she hasn't had

1:02:05

sex with me yet. It's like It's

1:02:07

you know They might be picking up on that vibe too

1:02:09

because you know the truth is I think that when you

1:02:11

really like someone you kind Of don't want to even talk

1:02:14

to other people because you kind of want to jinx it

1:02:16

that was my experience Yeah,

1:02:19

so either way I really like these

1:02:21

two together, but I don't care too

1:02:23

much about I don't trust him I'm sure I'm

1:02:25

sticking with it. I didn't trust him in the

1:02:27

beginning. I don't trust him now I think it's

1:02:29

nice and cute and everything but yeah Well

1:02:32

either way Danielle is shaking her head which

1:02:34

means that she's gonna Metal with this very

1:02:36

soon and Lindsay is staring with judgment which

1:02:38

means that she's also gonna know so He

1:02:41

doesn't realize it's giving way too much information to

1:02:43

people in this house Then

1:02:46

we cut to Amanda trying to open that front door which

1:02:49

seems to only open on merit-based situations

1:02:51

So Amanda is not allowed in into

1:02:54

that door and cause like first time opening the

1:02:56

door And

1:02:59

then they walk in and they're upset Amanda's

1:03:01

like no one's even here. They're just

1:03:03

like all hanging out She's

1:03:06

like shocked that people are

1:03:08

not waiting in the foyer for her Amanda

1:03:11

life of the party to show up. Oh My

1:03:14

god, you'll wait for her but not for me

1:03:18

So Gabby is talking about the astrologer

1:03:20

and the dinner and Amanda's like well

1:03:22

What if the astrologer you know tells

1:03:24

me that me and Kyle were not

1:03:26

compatible Well America said it and

1:03:28

you had no problem marrying his ass anyway, so I

1:03:31

don't see what my one more person is gonna Start

1:03:35

even Sierra says we tried to tell you bitch so

1:03:40

You know Jess is asking about the bridal shower

1:03:42

and Lindsay's talking about and says Sharon was

1:03:44

there and says in three short months I'm

1:03:46

gonna have a mother-in-law and then it cuts

1:03:48

the Carl just smiling like oh

1:03:51

no. Oh no. Oh no so

1:03:55

So then Oh West gets a text and he

1:03:57

got the job. So he gets excited and jumps

1:03:59

in the water pool and now he

1:04:01

is officially a writer for Complex. So

1:04:05

now it's time to get ready

1:04:07

for dinner and Sierra and Wester

1:04:09

cuddling and Amanda and Pager gossiping

1:04:12

in the bathroom and Amanda's like,

1:04:14

I was talking to Sierra about

1:04:16

West and she definitely likes Sierra.

1:04:19

And Lindsay comes in, she's like, do you have any powder?

1:04:22

Sorry, I'm not calling anyone a cokehead. I

1:04:24

just meant facial powder. I learned my lesson.

1:04:27

Or a TV copy of the feature film, powder. So

1:04:31

she's like, uh, Lindsay's like, you know what, it's

1:04:33

funny because like, West was just saying outside before

1:04:35

you guys got here that he's like

1:04:37

testing with other girls and he mentioned keeping the

1:04:39

door open. So yeah. And they're

1:04:42

like, oh my God, West. Yeah.

1:04:46

So she's like, well, I mean, it makes

1:04:48

sense. He's my shooting down combos, but he's

1:04:50

not making moves, right? And Lindsay's

1:04:53

like, well, I didn't ask that. I was just like, are

1:04:55

you talking to anybody else? And

1:04:57

Paige is like, well, what guy is

1:04:59

going all summer without having sex? Like

1:05:01

let's be honest, you know, and Amanda

1:05:03

says West, which no, the point is,

1:05:05

is that he's not. Right.

1:05:08

So Amanda's saying that like, Sierra

1:05:10

has been traumatized by past quote

1:05:12

unquote vacation flings, AKA Austin, uh,

1:05:15

and probably Luke. So meanwhile they

1:05:17

got to Carl, Carl and Kyle are in a

1:05:20

room and Carl is trying to swat a fly

1:05:22

with a pillow, which I

1:05:24

think probably sums up maybe why Carl is

1:05:26

not getting a job. Because, um, it's about

1:05:28

using the right tool for the right situation

1:05:31

and pillow versus fly. It's

1:05:33

not going to work out. Yeah. Uh,

1:05:36

so then, uh, back to the girls, Lindsay's

1:05:38

talent. She was like, okay. So Carl went

1:05:40

to the Jersey shore and his mom and

1:05:43

Lou had concerns about us getting married. And

1:05:45

so I talked to the mom at the bridal

1:05:48

shower and Paige is like, Oh, what

1:05:51

did you say? Did you give her an

1:05:53

invisible picnic? I really want

1:05:55

to try that. Well,

1:06:00

I just said I heard that you had

1:06:02

some concerns about us getting married, and she

1:06:04

was just like, I'm just more concerned that

1:06:06

you guys got into these fights, and I

1:06:08

don't know how she knew about these fights

1:06:10

unless my future husband went and squashed

1:06:13

to his mom, which I'm totally

1:06:15

fine with, but she said you're getting married in

1:06:17

a couple months, so we just were a little

1:06:19

nervous, so it's totally fine, and it's totally great.

1:06:21

I'm totally happy with it. So

1:06:24

she says basically it felt like

1:06:26

rejection, and that she doesn't speak

1:06:28

to her biological mom, and yes,

1:06:30

she has this stepmom who's like

1:06:32

her mother, and she has

1:06:34

her aunt Rhonda, who we haven't heard much about, and

1:06:37

she's like, but this is supposed to

1:06:40

be me gaining an extra mom and

1:06:42

her basically rejecting me before I'm even

1:06:44

in the family. I get that. This

1:06:48

did not feel like it was bullshit. I totally

1:06:50

got it, and she was crying, and Amanda and

1:06:52

Paige are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:06:54

They're like, she's crying.

1:06:56

This is amazing. So they just

1:06:59

talk, so Paige is

1:07:01

saying sometimes moms with their sons, they just

1:07:03

feel like they're losing their sons, so it's

1:07:05

like, don't worry. She's lucky to have you.

1:07:07

They just rally around when they support her.

1:07:09

I cut to Carl trying to

1:07:12

hit the fly with the pillow still. I know. It's like,

1:07:14

this is what you're crying over. Yeah. So

1:07:16

Carl's like, yeah, we're all in the home stretch here

1:07:18

with the wedding. And he's

1:07:20

like, yeah, the bridal shower was so

1:07:22

beautiful. It was almost surreal being there.

1:07:26

It was like a fairy tale. I occurred in a glass shoot just

1:07:28

to be like, are you my princess? Are you

1:07:30

my princess? Are you my princess? Because I'm my prince. I'm

1:07:33

literally a prince right now. I

1:07:35

was overwhelmed, I mean, what else was new? And

1:07:37

I walked in, and my heart was racing, and

1:07:40

then my heart was overwhelmed, and then it was just

1:07:42

a small practice for what the wedding will be.

1:07:44

And oh, sorry, I just

1:07:46

got overwhelmed. The only difference is that I

1:07:49

showed up for it. And

1:07:54

my mom was there, which was great. She was like

1:07:56

the prettiest lady in the room. And I don't think

1:07:58

I've really shared this with you. But

1:08:00

my mom has been pretty through like he

1:08:02

she's been like through the ups and downs

1:08:04

with this and we've had our moments And

1:08:07

Kyle's like what what was it like for

1:08:09

your mom and Carl is about To

1:08:13

just say he's about to go in you feel

1:08:15

it and then in walks Amanda looking for shoes

1:08:17

And not only does she look she's in there

1:08:19

forever And then she just sits

1:08:22

down while they're having like this heart to heart. It's like

1:08:25

Amanda Yeah there. I don't

1:08:27

know and they even say

1:08:30

Carl's like well, I guess she's joining and

1:08:32

shaking So

1:08:34

second Lindsay was just talking to me downstairs

1:08:36

about the conversation that you and your mom

1:08:39

had like fuck off Amanda geez This

1:08:42

is bro talk No

1:08:44

kidding Not only is he about

1:08:46

to gossip but stop pretending like you're gonna

1:08:49

be nice to Lindsay and then just fucking

1:08:51

her over Every single time like it didn't

1:08:53

take you longer than two minutes to fuck

1:08:55

her over, bro Yeah,

1:08:57

so everyone's outside meanwhile like Eating

1:09:00

dinner and waiting for these these

1:09:02

three so Amanda's like well She felt like

1:09:04

she's being rejected and cause I know not

1:09:06

all is more like Carl We just want

1:09:08

you to know that this is what you're

1:09:10

seeing your fiance is terrible You shouldn't marry

1:09:12

her or you gotta get away from her

1:09:14

do whatever you can to get out of

1:09:16

this relationship And like

1:09:18

you know like but there's also certain things. I'm just

1:09:21

not gonna share with Lindsay cuz like that's like my

1:09:23

mom, you know Sorry

1:09:25

if I can go they weren't saying that but also

1:09:27

there were like worse things that they said It's just

1:09:29

such a Carl answer and she's like,

1:09:31

well and you don't tell Lindsay everything

1:09:34

is to protect her feelings She's like,

1:09:36

yeah, of course And

1:09:38

she goes, okay So what are the other things

1:09:40

she said because of course he's hinting that there's

1:09:42

more and so he's like, I mean listen Like

1:09:44

it's okay to have concerns right? Like if anyone

1:09:47

has more concerns, it's my stepfather And

1:09:50

Carl is you know, you've said this

1:09:52

all season but like Carl is keenly

1:09:54

aware of the cameras He

1:09:57

knows he's he's bright

1:09:59

enough to know know, even though he

1:10:01

doesn't have lights, he's bright enough to know that

1:10:04

there's like the cameras are recording this

1:10:06

and that like this will get back to whoever

1:10:09

he's talking about. He even acknowledges that later in

1:10:11

the scene. And yet he still goes

1:10:13

forward saying all this stuff. And Carol

1:10:15

says like, well, you know, like Lou's an

1:10:17

ordained minister. Okay. So that means whatever he

1:10:19

says, like really holds way. Like he's married

1:10:22

people for 35 years and

1:10:24

he's officiated weddings for lots of couples. And

1:10:26

as a stand, if he was doing our

1:10:28

counseling, he wouldn't marry us. He wouldn't marry

1:10:31

us. There's

1:10:33

some things I've told him. Okay. That was like

1:10:35

little tiny letters with a double cross there. I

1:10:37

was going to put an asterisk, but I used the double

1:10:40

cross because you know, minister. More

1:10:42

life. More life, Jesus. But

1:10:45

you know, I also can understand like, thank

1:10:47

you for that low, but like you're not,

1:10:49

you're not here on the front lines. Yes.

1:10:51

Did I just compare being in a relationship

1:10:53

with Lindsay as like being in war perhaps,

1:10:55

but I'm going back to my relationship that

1:10:58

I see every day that may give me

1:11:00

PTSD. And I see the work

1:11:02

that Lindsay puts in and I see the commitment

1:11:04

we have in the sessions. We're having a couple of

1:11:06

therapy and we're making progress. We're making progress every day.

1:11:08

Like it's just like the band stuff. I just like

1:11:11

didn't fully like get it until we got in that

1:11:13

room. So this is all bullshit. This is him presenting

1:11:15

like he's being considerate. Like he's, he's

1:11:17

like, I'm going to bring this stuff up on camera.

1:11:20

I'm going to make, I'm going to tell it to these

1:11:22

people knowing that it's

1:11:25

going to potentially, it's going to inflame a

1:11:27

situation between my fiance and

1:11:29

my parents. And

1:11:31

then I'm going to give some public

1:11:34

praise to Lindsay, even though I'm also

1:11:36

undermining her at the same time. Yeah.

1:11:39

Well, what does he saying? Uh, the abandonment stuff

1:11:42

I did not understand fully until we got in

1:11:44

that room. What does he mean? He

1:11:46

meant like until they got into therapy, but

1:11:48

I'm like, how did you not get that?

1:11:50

Have you not seen the shell? Cause it's

1:11:53

pretty big. She's talked about it for eight years

1:11:55

on this show. It's like pretty clear cut. So

1:11:58

he's like, yeah, even if they're friends. For the last

1:12:00

seven years I didn't really understand they and

1:12:02

am I acknowledge it is very deep and

1:12:05

hard about I didn't get M C says

1:12:07

well how did that make you feel and

1:12:09

is a fucking horrible and she's like what

1:12:11

did he tell her what lose sad and

1:12:13

years now and she's like but isn't see

1:12:15

going to see this and he just he

1:12:17

goes the other other caviar is this and

1:12:19

they point to the cameras and then the

1:12:21

cameras film each other like how are they.

1:12:24

Were you nervous? Him he gets up at dinner to. Ah,

1:12:27

so he's acknowledging that like ooh, these

1:12:29

were conversations on cameras in the back

1:12:32

to people what's bad that he continues

1:12:34

to have them Which is what's so

1:12:36

interesting. So unlike the like reality tv

1:12:39

am I get it as cysts on

1:12:41

on on one. say it again know

1:12:43

as as I'd like to see. The.

1:12:46

I just I think it's like arnold have

1:12:48

a main thing over and over and I've

1:12:50

just like I mean, I've said I've said

1:12:52

my piece. I'll need to say twenty times

1:12:54

in our mean even the Royal of know

1:12:56

and nineteen though. I. Think that he's

1:12:58

very concerned about the public's opinion. And. So

1:13:01

he's nothing for our Sarah. That's whole season

1:13:03

is him wanting of every my building A

1:13:05

is building a road to get out this

1:13:07

entire see them and it's working. You know,

1:13:09

for the most part I think it's been

1:13:11

working pretty well. Forums? I just think it's

1:13:13

gross. I think it's sad. You know I'm

1:13:15

annulled. Think of the stuff that he has

1:13:17

against fancy is necessarily even wrong. They're just

1:13:19

not right. Together isn't the way he's going

1:13:21

about. it is really gross. and it is.

1:13:23

You know at the beginning of the season

1:13:25

were like Howard: how the fuck you blindsided

1:13:27

by this. This is a train wreck, but

1:13:29

I see houses blindsided now very easily. Email

1:13:31

yes he's letting her believe one thing was song

1:13:33

another thing on camera to vindicate himself and in

1:13:35

the house and and he members some so compliments

1:13:37

all over the place like are no one was

1:13:40

working on it and as as much as much

1:13:42

Mcnabb was is Lindsay because I'm an abuse victim.

1:13:44

He can like. Massages: These he

1:13:47

relays conversations back and forth of

1:13:49

people. Massages: The tone of Little

1:13:51

Bear gives people just enough to.

1:13:54

Be like half what it's So now

1:13:56

he's like a mad as like luck.

1:14:00

I probably would not have told my parents

1:14:02

like houses on me up except it was

1:14:04

a neither can see it because on a

1:14:06

tv show so I just as like a

1:14:08

rather come from made and right before aired

1:14:10

ah which is sort of her way of

1:14:12

also saying like i want my parents I'd

1:14:14

like my i like her out My parents

1:14:16

like how on a know that they're my

1:14:18

parents they would never get over something like

1:14:20

this are probably would not have said something

1:14:22

as like you just you just when an

1:14:24

like offered this up on a silver platter

1:14:26

out of nowhere so she's like so I

1:14:28

went on mean I gotta have of the

1:14:30

story essentially and his eye off all guy

1:14:32

ah is like yours. Is this not national

1:14:34

because those like us of go have this

1:14:36

competition my parents not go back to Lindsay

1:14:38

and I'll be like I love you and

1:14:40

I let's get married like I can't lay

1:14:42

off micro. You. Didn't have to do

1:14:44

that whole scene with your parents on camera. the feel

1:14:46

they are it or at Alamo Br Mikey. can't tell

1:14:48

me didn't know the camera crews there that you took

1:14:51

all the way to the Jersey Shore for this. Come

1:14:53

on. And so she's like any. And then even

1:14:55

nothing for Northern Illinois. And same for

1:14:57

the labour. The. Other

1:15:02

thing, Hamilton. the. Movie's

1:15:05

than fine. Down is better coming from you

1:15:07

may have been later down the road and

1:15:09

he's like largest on a murder I care

1:15:11

about org Zola vs Move It Under so

1:15:14

hurtful, not intended to be hurtful or mikel

1:15:16

hurt or again right now on camera can

1:15:18

be amazing. A driver seat or them make

1:15:20

me forget you're there to skating. Be like

1:15:22

two feet away from Isis can be various.

1:15:25

I just have like on producing with so much

1:15:27

shit on our plates hurt now like as Wang

1:15:29

budgets that she takes care of Like and I

1:15:32

don't have a career. Yeah like I don't like

1:15:34

an original lives Lindsay suddenly analysis It's only like

1:15:36

was like be like a mom like were.com from

1:15:38

as humans have a family I just going to

1:15:40

put a massive amount of anxiety. ah me I'm

1:15:43

like I'm the thought like out my parents have

1:15:45

questions about Slick really hard to like a lot

1:15:47

on my shoulders. like having to think about the

1:15:49

stuff that other people want to do. So.

1:15:52

now they're the others are down at dinner

1:15:54

and i jesse's talking about he had a

1:15:56

great day but you know guys he's his

1:15:59

camp for risk I have a story, am I

1:16:01

right? And they're

1:16:03

asking, Danielle's like, do you

1:16:05

date for your, are you looking for someone or

1:16:07

are you just trying to like have sex with

1:16:09

randos? And he's like, no,

1:16:11

no, no, I date to find someone like when

1:16:13

there's a chance like, I could spend 60 plus

1:16:16

years with them. And so she's like,

1:16:18

so you're doing that when it's like during

1:16:20

the week, but then on the weekends you're

1:16:22

just like sleeping around. He's like, well, no,

1:16:24

I mean on the weekends you're just finding

1:16:26

leads, you know what I'm saying? And

1:16:29

Sierra was like, you're kind of a trash bag and

1:16:32

I would never introduce you to any of my girlfriends.

1:16:35

And then he's like sad. He's like, that's rude,

1:16:38

that's rude. He's like, Sierra's my friend. So to

1:16:40

be like, I would never introduce you to any

1:16:42

of my friends because you're a trash bag. I

1:16:44

think that would like hurt anyone's feelings. Are you

1:16:46

serious? It's not like I have a girlfriend and

1:16:48

I'm like still going out and flirting. I'm like

1:16:51

as single as you could be. I'm like, okay,

1:16:53

get over it. Like you clearly are, like you

1:16:56

are breaking women's hearts left and right. We all know

1:16:58

it. And she's

1:17:00

like, I mean, it's fine. You're just out

1:17:02

to fuck. And he's like, nah. And she's

1:17:04

like, yeah, it's annoying. He goes, yeah, well

1:17:06

I'm annoyed too. And he tells us, I

1:17:08

mean, she's my friend. So hearing

1:17:11

I'm a trash bag and she wouldn't introduce

1:17:13

her friends to me, yeah, who wouldn't have

1:17:15

their feelings hurt? Wait,

1:17:19

it's like, Jesse, don't worry.

1:17:21

I'm obsessed with you. I literally like you

1:17:23

more than my boyfriend. So you can enjoy

1:17:25

that. So Carl is

1:17:27

like, sorry,

1:17:30

sorry, I'm late. Here's a big smile

1:17:32

to show how happy I am. I'm

1:17:34

so happy right now. And

1:17:38

Lindsay's been having a great dinner. She's

1:17:40

getting along with everybody. She's not bitching

1:17:42

about Carl. Everything's going great. So Carl,

1:17:45

here comes Carl, okay? So she's

1:17:47

like, oh, you guys were in there for a while. And he goes,

1:17:49

yup. And she goes, is it lover boy stuff you're talking about?

1:17:51

And he's like, oh, we should probably chat at some point. Cause

1:17:54

the conversation my mom and stepdad had, I want to make

1:17:56

sure we're on the same page about it. So.

1:18:00

We talked about this this week,

1:18:02

and there'll be. And he's like, y'all, I

1:18:05

just want to revisit it. That's all, just

1:18:07

like revisit, you know? Okay, but like, I

1:18:09

don't understand, babe, and now I'm gonna be on edge

1:18:11

this entire dinner. Yeah, I'm just

1:18:14

like, I'm just like emotional right now. I'm

1:18:16

sorry for that. I'm sorry, I'm over walled.

1:18:18

Oh. Fucking guy. So

1:18:22

she's basically like, alright, let's just talk now. I'm

1:18:24

not gonna be able to enjoy this meal, so

1:18:26

she can- Yeah, he did. He's supposed to drop

1:18:28

drama and start a fucking fight in front of

1:18:31

everybody. It's fucking Carl, he's making me crazy. My

1:18:33

head is gonna pop off watching the show before

1:18:35

the season ends. He is making me fucking crazy.

1:18:38

So they leave, and so

1:18:41

Amanda's like, well, I get why he hasn't

1:18:43

told Lindsay. I don't regret his- I feel

1:18:46

bad for the position he's in right- Amanda,

1:18:50

just, I don't need you right now.

1:18:52

Pissing me off even more, okay? So

1:18:54

Lindsay and Carl go into the living room, and Carl's like,

1:18:56

oh, when I went to New York, New Jersey to talk

1:18:58

to my mom when I stepped out, they've been concerned about

1:19:00

the fact that we've been fighting, and they just want to

1:19:03

make sure we're good, okay? I

1:19:05

know, babe. Like, we talked about this, and

1:19:07

I'm confused what just happened where now you're

1:19:09

like upset. You're like very angry and upset.

1:19:11

I'm not angry. I'm not angry. I am

1:19:13

not angry. Lindsay, I'm not angry. It's

1:19:18

a classic dynamic between the two of them. She

1:19:21

calls him angry. She's like, now you're angry.

1:19:23

I'm not- I'm sorry. I actually acted like

1:19:25

I was angry. He's like, I'm not angry.

1:19:27

I'm not angry. So now he's angry. He's

1:19:29

saying he's not angry. He

1:19:32

wasn't really angry at the start, but now he's angry.

1:19:34

He just charged at the table and dropped a bunch

1:19:36

of drama and was like, oh, oh, where's the drama?

1:19:39

Okay, you weren't angry, Carl. Then what do you

1:19:41

want to call it? You just came with a

1:19:43

bag full of bullshit emotion and dropped them in

1:19:45

public at the table again. So

1:19:47

what would you like to call it, Carl?

1:19:49

Like you just have like an insane thirst

1:19:52

for attention right now in the middle of

1:19:54

dinner? Okay, then call it that. Whatever

1:19:56

you need to call it. Okay? I just-

1:19:58

I don't want to have secrets from you. I'm going to call you. conversation

1:20:00

in New Jersey with my parents, plays on TV,

1:20:02

just so you're not like blinded or like caught

1:20:04

off guard. I just like want to make sure.

1:20:07

Like you know what Lou told me, which was

1:20:09

hashtag more life because he was wearing the shirt.

1:20:11

And then he also said like, as it stands

1:20:13

right now, if we were his couple that he

1:20:15

was working with, Lou, your

1:20:18

future father-in-law, who you're

1:20:20

going to spend a lot of time with at various

1:20:22

family events said, I

1:20:24

would not marry you. His words, not mine, his words, Lou.

1:20:27

So he's like, you know, I want you to

1:20:30

know what was said in Jersey, but they do

1:20:32

both love you. And she's like, okay, but the

1:20:34

initial conversation about this wasn't very in depth. And

1:20:36

he's like, okay, so I should have told you.

1:20:38

And she's like, okay, so maybe we should have

1:20:40

more detailed communication then. And

1:20:42

like, that's a pretty big significant thing that

1:20:45

he wouldn't marry us, right? And he's like,

1:20:47

well, I mean, he's hearing

1:20:49

from one person, you know, not you whatsoever.

1:20:51

She's like, yeah, but we've had this conversation

1:20:53

before. And this is why I try not

1:20:55

to involve my parents in the details of

1:20:57

our fights, Carl, because parents

1:20:59

are going to take sides. And he's like, oh,

1:21:02

well, the details of our fights, I sure. Like

1:21:04

I share some things, but like, I don't want

1:21:06

you to think that I go down there and

1:21:08

say like, she's the worst. I mean, I don't

1:21:10

say derogatory words. I just say, ow, she hit

1:21:12

me. Like, oh, do I have a bruise? Like,

1:21:14

I just, I just ask questions like, am I

1:21:16

bruising? Like, is my outside a bruise? Like my

1:21:19

inside is? I

1:21:21

just talk honestly, which is in

1:21:24

my case, means that I insinuate things, but I say like,

1:21:26

no, no, no. She's a great girl. I

1:21:29

mean, Lindsay's reaction is like actually pretty

1:21:32

chill because I think that he's bracing for her to be like, I can't

1:21:34

believe you would say that. Do you not want to get married to me?

1:21:37

But she's more like, why did you

1:21:39

just tell me this in the first place? You

1:21:41

know, like that's the issue. Like you tell me

1:21:43

a part, a partial story. And

1:21:45

then later on, I feel like you hear the full story.

1:21:47

It's like, you have to just tell me what, just like,

1:21:49

it's, don't do this. I

1:21:52

love it. That's why I love

1:21:54

her right now in this season because she's just not

1:21:56

letting him do what he's trying to do. Like he

1:21:59

tries to do it. tried to get a reaction before,

1:22:01

and I know we don't agree on this, I'm not having

1:22:03

this like, argue

1:22:06

or whatever, I'm just saying like, on

1:22:09

one side of the argument, he's trying to get

1:22:11

a reaction out of her, he's not getting it,

1:22:13

so then he goes to other people in the

1:22:15

house, he goes to her enemies in the house,

1:22:17

let's face it, Kyle and Amanda, and starts telling

1:22:20

them stuff on camera, okay, before

1:22:22

he tells her, and then he, she's in

1:22:24

a really good mood, so then he goes

1:22:26

and he drops it at the table in

1:22:28

front of everybody, and then he's

1:22:30

doing this, and in a minute he's going to start the

1:22:32

good old, warriors up, like he's going to

1:22:35

do that thing back to her, so

1:22:37

it's like he's trying to get it, and she's just

1:22:39

not giving it to him, and I'm really impressed, because

1:22:41

I would give it to him at this point, and

1:22:43

I can stay pretty calm in an argument, but I

1:22:46

would give it to him, and she's not, she's

1:22:48

like, okay, but so why can't we just communicate

1:22:50

better, like you could have just told me all

1:22:53

of this before, Carl. Yeah,

1:22:55

and so meanwhile outside they're like, what's going

1:22:57

on, what's going on, what's going on, and

1:22:59

Gabby's like, I don't think they're fighting, like Lindsay's

1:23:01

not doing her fighting hand, she's doing her, I'm

1:23:03

trying to explain this to you in a calm

1:23:05

way, but I'm assertive hands, that is your Lindsay

1:23:07

with like her hands being like, well,

1:23:12

I just want to make sure we're on the same

1:23:14

page, because when Amanda said you were emotional, I just

1:23:16

wanted to revisit and make sure I clear the air

1:23:18

about my New Jersey visit, and also get Amanda thrown

1:23:20

into the bus, so maybe you can yell at her

1:23:22

if you want to yell at me, like please yell

1:23:24

at somebody on camera, please. Yeah, so

1:23:26

like if you want getting frustrated that we're fighting when it's

1:23:28

supposed to be a good night, feel free

1:23:31

to yell at Amanda now. So Carl's like,

1:23:33

my mom and my stepdad fucking love you,

1:23:35

like my mom came to the bridal shower,

1:23:38

because she wants to be there for you and

1:23:40

me, mainly me, she said something about like she

1:23:42

wants is like the equivalent of doom scrolling, but

1:23:45

like in person, I don't know what that really

1:23:47

meant, but anyway, she only had to kind of

1:23:49

say something about you. And

1:23:51

she's like, Yeah, I understand. I'm not questioning that.

1:23:53

You know, I wasn't having a conversation where I

1:23:55

was saying like, Sharon hates me. And

1:23:58

he's like, well, Amanda didn't say that. know that's

1:24:00

me because that's where I go crazy. I'm like when

1:24:02

I struggle. And she goes, well, I mean, it just

1:24:04

came across as pretty intense. And he's like, well, I'm

1:24:06

overwhelmed. Okay. Because there's like so much going on. Like

1:24:08

we still have to like figure a lot out. Like

1:24:11

I got a career figure now. There's like wedding. There's

1:24:13

loose ends. There's just like a lot. She goes, okay.

1:24:15

And it's too much for you for

1:24:17

me to have an emotion right now. And he's

1:24:20

like, no, I just wish I told you sooner.

1:24:22

Huh? I loved when she said

1:24:24

that. And he's like, no, I just wish I told

1:24:26

you sooner. Oh, because like, uh, like I just like,

1:24:28

uh, I don't want you to spiral. And like, I

1:24:30

didn't want to trigger you. She goes, but I didn't

1:24:33

spiral. He's like, oh, like I'm

1:24:35

not saying you did. I'm just saying, oh, I,

1:24:37

why are you spiraling? It's a tough conversation. Like,

1:24:40

did you not hear the part that my mother hates you? Oh

1:24:42

my God. Just

1:24:45

like a tough conversation. Like that's hard. And I got nervous

1:24:47

and I struggled with it. Why are you spiraling? And she's

1:24:49

like, um, but why is this a tough conversation? Oh, I

1:24:51

just, I'm feeling like overwhelmed by it. I have to have

1:24:54

my career in order because he told me to. And like,

1:24:56

this is kind of like your fault. Cause like, if you

1:24:58

didn't tell me to do that, like I wouldn't be overwhelmed.

1:25:00

And I might not have liked onto my parents. So I'm

1:25:02

just trying to say like, like stop spiraling and like make

1:25:04

me do these things. It's like a lot, Lindsey. I'm like

1:25:07

a little overwhelmed. That's all. Well,

1:25:11

Lindsey, if

1:25:13

you didn't see before why

1:25:16

the parents are saying you shouldn't get married, you

1:25:18

should see it right now because this is what

1:25:20

they're seeing and this is

1:25:22

not someone who's going to be ready to get

1:25:24

married to you. Okay. I'm sorry if some of

1:25:26

your brand deals go down over this, but girl,

1:25:28

this is not the man that does not like

1:25:31

you. I'm not even saying love

1:25:33

you. Maybe he does love you on some

1:25:35

level. He does not like you. Okay. And

1:25:37

the fact that he went to talk to

1:25:39

Amanda and Kyle of all people about his

1:25:41

mother's issues with you before you is like,

1:25:43

I just, this is why we got to

1:25:45

stop selling the fairy tale of weddings, by

1:25:47

the way, all this, all the language around.

1:25:49

Oh, it looks like Prince Charming. Oh my

1:25:51

God. It's a fairytale wedding. Cause this is

1:25:53

what happens because people want the fairytale and

1:25:55

he has Lindsey. All the

1:25:57

signs are there. This is not a

1:25:59

map. For you. He doesn't have a job. You

1:26:02

want an ambitious alpha guy. Carl is not that.

1:26:04

There's nothing wrong with him not being alpha That's

1:26:06

totally fine. But he's just not that and that's

1:26:08

what you want Please

1:26:12

Like and now he's about to humiliate you Well,

1:26:14

it's also something about the entire wedding industry Like

1:26:16

you have to plan this for a year or

1:26:19

two You have to have all these parties you

1:26:21

have to have all these events all these things

1:26:23

over this fucking thing Which I guess one at

1:26:25

one time was like some forever thing But for

1:26:27

now, it's a few years of your life that

1:26:30

we all have to go out and buy you

1:26:32

KitchenAid appliances for And it's just bullshit

1:26:34

if you want to get married go to fucking City

1:26:36

Hall and have a dinner with people But the fact

1:26:38

that you have to like have hundreds of thousands of

1:26:40

dollars and you have to plan all

1:26:42

of this stuff It makes so much pressure

1:26:44

for people and it makes people Not

1:26:47

quit when they should quit because they've already

1:26:49

invested all of this money the fucking cost

1:26:51

I'll see like that becomes literal where you've

1:26:54

invested so much money into this that you're

1:26:56

like I can't just like not have these

1:26:58

parties already paid the deposit. So we'll get

1:27:00

divorced later, but I'm having this fucking dinner

1:27:02

I already I already ordered the

1:27:05

fish for everybody. Yeah, it's

1:27:07

a full disaster I've listened I do believe

1:27:09

I do believe in true love and I

1:27:11

think that there are marriages We're like this.

1:27:13

I think this is going to last forever

1:27:15

I just don't think that

1:27:18

exists whatsoever in the world of reality TV and

1:27:20

you're both reality stars Trying to get

1:27:23

married. I don't think

1:27:25

we've ever seen a successful reality star marriage that

1:27:27

has lasted the test of time and people can

1:27:29

pull up examples and I'll say They're

1:27:32

still divorced in the future. So give

1:27:34

them time give them time. I don't

1:27:36

know Juliana and Bill ransack.

1:27:38

I'm coming for you. So anyway

1:27:40

everyone Wow, I love this is a great

1:27:42

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1:27:44

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1:27:47

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1:27:49

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1:27:51

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1:27:53

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