Bart Sasso is a partner at Ticonderoga Club restaurant and the owner of Sasso & Co. creative agency. He joins Larry from his new home in Boston to discuss why graphic designers shouldn't be treated like rock stars, why sports culture is essential to creative professionals, the pitfalls of only using Pinterest for inspiration, nostalgic sports logos, messy Illustrator artboards, and Bart reveals his favorite Grateful Dead song. Also, the boys make plans to start a new creative agency where the logos are free.