Ryan Kasperowitsch joins me this week to discuss his holistic wilderness therapy program with his company called The Hope Approach. We also discuss his educational endeavours in outdoor education which is an alternative to conventional learning practices. The practices he has implemented are not just for students, they are for families, friends, and Dads too!

**CORRECTION** The proper website mentioned during this episode is:

www.drlisatnd.com

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