0:06

This is Theo Henderson from Nie House. We

0:08

are in Unhoused News. Our top story

0:10

is out here in Koreatown. The anti

0:12

inhouse anti press sentiment is

0:14

very strong. They are utilizing other

0:17

people of color to basically dismantle

0:19

and violate the law and the

0:21

First Amendment right. So as

0:23

you can see today they have displaced

0:26

unhoused people's belongings and

0:28

further along we will give you a update on

0:31

that story.

0:34

Mainstream media Los Angeles Times has

0:36

created a problematic article endangering

0:38

the lives of unhoused people. The

0:41

full story is that the topic of

0:43

their article was talking about bicycles,

0:45

which incidentally is important

0:48

enough that Jopaskino is criminalizing

0:50

that now due to the article. The

0:52

article points to the address of unhoused

0:55

people and then leads a subtle

0:57

dalk whistle to vigilantes

0:59

to go and look for unhoused people, creating

1:02

hostile situations. The conversation

1:04

has been always ongoing about how

1:07

mainstream media the fourth estate contributes

1:09

into the mass hysteria and

1:11

vigilantes of unhoused news. Me

1:15

in House has an episode called Nimbiland that

1:17

highlights that on YouTube as well as

1:19

the other social media podcast. Incidentally,

1:23

during the George Floyd protest. There

1:25

was a big article from Los Angeles Times

1:27

apologizing for their role and to the

1:29

racial antipathy that they created

1:32

in their reporting. It

1:34

seems like they they had retorted resulted back

1:37

to got because as you know, fifty two

1:39

percent of the un house are black. One

1:41

and four are usually in use of force

1:43

with the LAPD. And now due

1:46

to the high hysteria of anti

1:49

unhoused sentiment that is used as

1:51

a platform for the politician, Eli

1:54

Times has joined the fray there.

1:56

I have always stated that there they

1:59

are doing balance reporting, but

2:01

that is not the case. It was incidents

2:03

before, but they were really eager to try to

2:06

have workshops, I guess, and they

2:08

have foundered due to the

2:10

fact that many of the journalists do

2:12

not look at independent journalists as on the

2:15

same caliber as mainstream

2:17

journalists. However, they have been missing the

2:19

mark for some time, so I guess

2:21

that's they're correct in that. In

2:23

other news, Willian House

2:26

have found out that there has been a

2:28

recall on City council member

2:30

Mike Bonnan. He is one of the people

2:33

that has not pushed out any forty

2:35

one eighteen resolutions. He voted against

2:37

it and now they are coming for

2:39

him. Because of that, KDL

2:46

has created more resolutions to

2:48

circle on house people near

2:51

Union Station, the

2:54

City Hall and other places.

2:56

The main proponent of

2:57

the resolution

3:00

have been joked by skying over one hundred and sixty

3:02

one and counting Mitchell

3:04

Farrell. He's growing in his number. Parker

3:08

Kreyan, KDL,

3:14

Neuri Martinez. These are the ones that have

3:16

been pushing for the

3:18

forty one eighteen resolution utilizing

3:21

anti on house sentiment stating that unhoused

3:24

people are dangerous to schools and as

3:26

if all the sixty two thousand n house

3:28

people are going to attack school children and

3:30

there are danger to society. The

3:34

last conversation that I point

3:36

out is and the last livestream

3:39

Instagram live stream that I

3:41

posted how MacArthur Park had

3:44

violated the Bulky Order ruling

3:46

and through away an unhoused person's belongings

3:49

and left two belongings in

3:51

their possession. For

3:54

further details, please look on the Weedian House

3:57

Instagram live as well as

3:59

check out the new current episode. Due

4:01

to the Veterans on House Veterans episode

4:04

that should be a proposed because today

4:06

is Veterans Day, but incidentally

4:09

they have disdained and discarded

4:11

the un housed, just the same as civilian unhouse.

4:14

This is the o Henderson from William House and this is

4:16

on House News

4:21

the city. They don't have the manpower to it,

4:23

but they're gonna have the evil intent to be

4:26

able to displace thousands of

4:28

people. So what what? What do you think

4:30

would be a good solution for you? Do? Do you think

4:32

this is a good solution anyway? No?

4:35

I think this is really like discrimination. I

4:38

mean, where would they go? How can

4:40

you look down at somebody who's already down

4:43

on their luf? You know, we're all

4:46

one foot out of the rest. Would

4:51

be a nation of laws and we

4:54

go out there and we fight the borders. We secure

4:56

in the nation of folls from the US do to qunch

4:58

of payperwork. It's ridiculous

5:01

watching a veteran dinas streets all

5:03

this having so well in the coming these simple

5:06

laws and pushed paper

5:08

around. You can't do anything for the man

5:10

sitting there right on the street. Right now, the

5:12

fight for non veteran housing is a

5:14

bigger challenge right now. Yeah, because

5:16

the people who are against this humanity, who

5:19

can say there's no law saying we have to do this,

5:21

but for veterans. There is. Everybody

5:25

deserves a home, absolutely, but veterans

5:27

have a home. That's just somebody's got the kings.

5:38

All right. This is THEO Henderson from Willian

5:40

House and we are here today at

5:42

nationale Veterans Park. Today

5:45

we're going to be highlighting a lot of the stories

5:47

of the house, but we're also going to highlight the people

5:49

that helped the house. And without further

5:51

ado, I'm going to introduce two of my guests

5:53

here. They're gonna talk with us a little bit. I'm

5:55

gonna start them off a little bit of how

5:57

they got involved in this and then

6:00

and take it from there. What's your name, sir,

6:02

Jim Brown, Angel Brown. Well,

6:05

this is the Browns, not the comedy show. These

6:09

are the real life Jim Brown and not the football

6:11

player by the way. So

6:13

I want to make sure so you know, Jim Brown, don't

6:15

come and beat me up thinking I got him on utilizing

6:18

his name. So

6:20

tell us a little bit about you. I see you have

6:22

a Veteran Army sirt on it. So tell us a little

6:24

about your story. Well,

6:27

my story starts

6:29

back in Oklahoma working

6:31

with children and at risk kids

6:34

and also group home kids, and

6:36

we advanced that now to helping

6:38

homeless veterans, which I'm

6:41

a two time veteran and white

6:43

homeless veterans. Homeless veterans because

6:45

of the fact the

6:48

city and the state funding

6:51

program is not accurate

6:54

on serving homeless

6:56

veterans. It's not accurate. We

7:00

need to find out who's being served,

7:03

where's the money's going, and who's

7:05

really getting help from the state and the city.

7:09

My second question is when you're mentioned and touched on

7:11

it, it's very correctly too. Do

7:13

the unhoused veterans do they deal with

7:15

a lot of the challenges like substance

7:18

usage PTSD, you

7:21

know, suicide, it's obvious the

7:23

same things that happen with house veterans or

7:25

unhouse veterans. Do they get their appropriate help?

7:28

No, not really. We get

7:31

a lot of conversation, a lot

7:33

of I

7:35

care for you conversations, but when

7:38

it comes to really caring, there's

7:40

no institution that we can actually

7:42

go to and receive emergency

7:45

help. What about

7:47

because people would argue, many of the nimbies

7:49

that would argue that, you know, God

7:51

save our veterans, and patriotic

7:53

and to the to the ridiculousness of you

7:56

don't like this country, get out, But

7:58

what about the Veterans administration? It's not

8:00

a solution or what's going on there? Well,

8:02

the Veteran Administration keeps

8:04

everything under the rug. They

8:07

sound good, they talk good. But

8:10

when we walk in there a hundred veterans

8:12

at a time, how many veterans

8:14

do you think gets a

8:16

housing voucher, emergency

8:19

assistance, medical attention,

8:22

even resources that they ritually

8:25

deserve. It's not being

8:27

done correctly. I

8:30

understand due to some of the challenges that happened

8:32

with unhoused people. And I have friends that were

8:35

in the service in Vietnam, and

8:37

I watched their stories and struggles

8:39

to just get housing and a vash voucher.

8:42

Can you tell us what a vash vulture is? Do you

8:44

know that there's a vast voucher?

8:46

Basically is veterans

8:48

trying to help veterans get into homes

8:51

and even into veterans that's

8:53

foreclosures that lost their homes. But

8:56

when we go there to get the voucher,

8:59

it's a bunch of red tape. It

9:01

might take you six months to a year

9:04

to even get the voucher. When you do get

9:06

the voucher, you're you're homeless

9:09

and they're trying to find you. So

9:11

the system is not working. We

9:14

need to house the veterans with these

9:16

vouchers. You second about

9:18

meeting or perhaps meeting them where they are.

9:21

What are the obstacles of trying to get this vast

9:23

vultures that for a house veterans, the

9:26

obstacle is filling out paperwork.

9:28

You fill out the applications, you go through the

9:30

process, you get a case manager. Once

9:32

you get a case manager, it stops

9:35

all. This is this conversation. We're

9:38

working on this, we're working on that.

9:40

But when it comes down to transitioning

9:43

from a shelter to home

9:46

to a home, it's a it's

9:48

a window that's confused.

9:51

It's a window that's not certain. It's

9:53

a window that only a few,

9:55

maybe a few handful, get

9:58

a voucher. Now, let's take could

10:00

take this conversation to a new

10:02

dimension. I don't know if you've heard of

10:04

forty one eighteen and what I'm

10:07

going to educate all of us

10:09

about it. Forty one eighteen has

10:11

been shot down over several

10:13

times in city Council's history. I,

10:16

as an unhoused person, had grappled and

10:18

had personal experience being part

10:20

with forty one eighteen being used against unhoused

10:22

people. But the question becomes now

10:25

because forty one eighteen now that

10:27

they have amended before they

10:29

had stopped it due to boise, you know

10:32

the case. But now they use special

10:34

enforcement zones. But here's a issue

10:37

here. Forty one eighteen affects everybody

10:40

on housed veterans, not on veterans,

10:42

disabled, elderly, to use. Any

10:45

type of unhoused person is going to be affected

10:47

by it. And what forty one eighteen states

10:49

is like, For example, the sidewalk here

10:52

and house people can't be on the sidewalk on

10:54

house people can nearest be parks. This

10:57

is a Veteran National Park. They can't

10:59

be in parks. They can be in schools. They can't

11:01

be in parks. They can't be out my park.

11:03

They can't be near gay care, they can't be near

11:05

stores, they can't be anywhere. The only

11:07

place where unhouse people weird. But you know, you

11:09

want to know where they're gonna be outside of

11:11

Los Angeles County, So that means in

11:13

a far flung place. So if you have a VA appointment

11:16

for this VASH, you won't be here to be able

11:18

to go to it because you're gonna be outside outside

11:21

the park. So if you need it, for example,

11:23

you needed medical care from the VIA, you

11:26

can't get it instantaneous because you're going to be

11:28

outside of Los Angeles County.

11:30

And this is going up for vote this Wednesday

11:33

at ten o'clock in the City Hall Council Media.

11:35

So what do you think? How do you think this

11:37

is going to affect the un house community. This

11:40

is gonna be detrimental

11:43

if we don't stand together and

11:46

get action. Make action,

11:49

not talk about action, but let's actually

11:52

do something because this

11:54

is getting worse and worse and

11:57

worse, and we need political

11:59

leaders not trying

12:01

to subdue

12:04

their audience by a vote. We

12:06

need real, real work

12:09

involved here for our homeless

12:11

community. So I agree with that.

12:13

And one of the things that many of these city council

12:15

members that are voting for this kind of workness

12:18

will stay in the same breath, you

12:20

know, respecting and for Memorial Day

12:22

or Veterans Day. But these are the same people

12:24

that are voting to just make erase

12:27

these very same people that they're trying

12:29

to pretend they're uplifting. So

12:31

this is where where as many people

12:33

as we can that's this City Hall at ten o'clock to

12:36

come down to descend on city Hall to speak out

12:38

on against this. You're a veteran. You're

12:40

a veteran twice. So when

12:42

the first time you became into

12:45

the service of what where you were a part

12:47

of a type of war or anything. No,

12:49

I had just came from. We

12:52

was the last unit that did

12:55

the sixteen weeks of basic training. We

12:57

clean the Vietnam equipment.

13:00

I was a chemical specialist and I

13:02

got exposed to agent orange, but

13:04

we wasn't told to twenty five years

13:07

later, So now I'm

13:09

pending medical for

13:12

the agent orange. But you

13:14

were re enlisted and became a veteran again

13:16

twice over, So what was that? What about?

13:18

Well, my daughter recruited me twenty

13:20

five years years after I served

13:23

the first time. I was eight years

13:25

over the age limit. And I did

13:27

it for my country. I love my country,

13:29

I love to cook, and I did it for

13:31

my daughter. That

13:34

was the real ulterior motive. So

13:37

yeah, if you know Ms. Brown, you was

13:39

like trying to talk about it, maybe like Daddy's girl

13:41

forever. So

13:44

that's wonderful to hear. One of the things I wanted

13:46

to talk to when it takes an unfortunate

13:49

term, You've been helping so many people,

13:51

and went on into things that I observed because I have a

13:53

power up out and Saturday down

13:55

in the downtown Los Angeles area. Saturday,

13:58

I partnered with Japanese actually Solidarity

14:00

Network, and I notice the

14:03

energy when I came around, and I see

14:05

the good food here. And one of the things that I've

14:07

been pushing, which seems radical for many people

14:10

that service unhoused people is food

14:12

diversity, feeding them food that they

14:14

want to eat. No one wants to eat every Saturday.

14:16

It's the same peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. They don't

14:18

want to eat the same cold sandwiches for four weekends

14:21

in the road. It's basically shows

14:23

that you just be grateful. That's the

14:26

idea, is grateful for anything. And unhoused

14:28

people are fast.

14:30

They have different varieties. Some of them have health issues,

14:32

some of them want to be able to eat, and some of

14:34

them maybe need this food

14:37

that we have, just like what we eat to

14:39

keep us surviving and keep the make

14:42

the time a little bit less miserable, because

14:44

being on the house, let's be I can tell you it is miserable.

14:46

It's stressful, and it's like people always

14:49

talk about get a job. I guarantee you,

14:51

I put you against any unhoused person that's panhandling,

14:54

against anybody that works eight hours a day, you

14:56

will not be able to last because that is a twenty

14:58

four hour job out in the heat. You

15:00

don't get a respike, you don't get

15:02

reprieves, you don't get out of the heats

15:04

in the sun, and you're trying to be able

15:06

to survive where people do

15:08

not want to see you or want you to make sure that you

15:11

don't exist or be outside of La

15:13

County. But I understand that everybody

15:16

is appreciatative of you guys as awesome

15:19

work. And can you tell us a little bit about

15:21

what's going on, what happened, why they gave

15:23

you such a hard time at the situation

15:25

where at the American Legion they got correct. So

15:27

tell us a little bit about that well. American

15:29

Legion Post five twenty I

15:32

joined the end of May beginning

15:35

of June, and I

15:38

was recruited to cook on a volunteer

15:40

kitchen, and we cooked

15:42

and we fed the homeless veterans. We

15:44

cooked barbecue

15:47

ribs, we cook briskets, we

15:49

cooked turkey, we cooked

15:52

hams. I'm getting hungry over here. But look, we

15:54

getting the part. I might

15:56

bring a plate. Well, okay, so

15:58

we cook what people want

16:01

to eat and greens,

16:03

baked beans, real

16:06

southern hospitality food. And

16:09

we love cooking it and sharing

16:11

it with the homeless, and I love eating it. But yes,

16:16

but American Legions stopped me July

16:20

tenth. We're the commander just came in

16:22

office ten days. Steve

16:25

McLoughlin, he put me

16:27

off posts. He said he couldn't do

16:29

my black skin. He said

16:31

he couldn't do Jim Brown. He

16:33

says, I am not the football

16:35

player, not the football player, but

16:38

but me the Jim Brown from Tulsa,

16:40

Oklahoma. But anyway,

16:43

yes, missus. Steve mcfloughlin asked

16:45

me to leave without a reason. He

16:48

forced me to leave without a reason.

16:51

He called the police on me. The

16:54

police asked him could I stay? He

16:56

had no right to put me off. He still

16:58

closed down the shop and

17:01

would not let me cook my food. But also

17:03

point out to the American Legion. What is the American

17:05

Legion because people may not know what American

17:07

Legion is. It's for military people.

17:09

So let's still be clear. This is a

17:11

two time vat. So what reason did

17:13

he give you because the throw off a veteran

17:16

that's serving other unhoused veterans. Well,

17:19

his reason was that my

17:21

black skin was not welcome and

17:24

Jim Brown was not welcome. I

17:26

can't do Jim Brown quote. That's

17:29

what he told me. And he had no

17:31

reason whatsoever. I asked him

17:33

over ten times to give me an

17:35

honest reason why we can't work together

17:38

as veterans. Well, racism seems

17:40

to be bleeding even into the service

17:43

industry. Serve our our former

17:45

service members and our current service members,

17:47

and that is distressing to hear. One

17:49

of the things that I also told

17:51

me that I wanted to elucidate a little bit

17:53

more on is now that you only did

17:56

they threw you out of there, but also

17:58

that you've he impacted other service

18:00

people that they're supposed to be helping, you

18:02

know, with food and things like that. Do you

18:05

do you suppose that it was due to you guys's

18:07

uh methods of creating

18:10

new types of food justice

18:13

issues? What do you think? Yes, I

18:15

think it was the nature of different

18:17

type of foods.

18:19

Everyone around us loved our

18:22

creativity. Uh barbecue,

18:25

Uh, this guy doesn't eat meat, so

18:28

we we try to accommodate that by giving

18:30

him healthy vegetables. Now if he was

18:32

it was he was supposed to be what he's supposed to be,

18:35

or telling me to get off posts. Why would you

18:37

eat that great food of mine and then

18:39

feel kick me off posts? What I

18:42

one of the things I want to segue into too, is

18:44

I noticed, like even when I'm doing in power ups,

18:46

that I've noticed, uh that in

18:48

other communities. I'm in little Tokyo and

18:50

I started out servicing foods

18:53

there. There was Asian food, there's Latino

18:55

food, there's other other

18:57

cultural foods of Italian food. Even in June

18:59

tenth was pushing for having a June

19:01

Chief celebration. I found

19:04

it was a very It's

19:06

a hard conversation to have with people because they

19:09

look at African American cuisine

19:11

or Southern African American cuisine as

19:14

not what's the word healthy or

19:16

or not

19:19

a palatable to people that other cultures.

19:22

And I think that has something to do with systemic racism

19:24

as well, because if we can eat healthy or

19:26

unhealthy other cultural foods,

19:28

and no one's saying that you have to eat this all the time,

19:31

but the fact of the matter, if you can eat these other

19:34

unhealthy cultural foods. Why is it that

19:36

we African American food is supposed

19:39

to be this moniker. That's another form

19:41

of rerature. But one of the things I wanted

19:43

to direct a little bit of the conversation to

19:45

you, Ms Brown is the fact that you

19:48

were witnessed to this, and I wanted your own

19:50

words because you probably have some insight that we may

19:52

have missed or I may have didn't asked the right question

19:55

about what did you see because you were observing

19:57

and them interact with your husband. So tell

20:00

a little bit about what's going on there, what

20:02

I witnessed. When I

20:05

believe it was July the ninth, Jim

20:07

and I was at the stove fixing some

20:09

food for individuals

20:13

that was coming to get

20:15

it, but it was gonna be for donations. Mister

20:18

Steve came to my husband

20:20

and said, you're gonna have to get

20:22

your s h I T and

20:25

go. We don't want you here.

20:27

You're done here. Your

20:29

black skin is not welcome. I can't do

20:31

Jim Brown, Okay. So

20:33

once that was said, Jim

20:36

asked him why

20:38

why you can't do it? He

20:40

didn't. He's I don't have to give you a reason. You

20:42

just gotta go. The next

20:45

day we shows up. He's Miss

20:48

I believe her name was Smiss Michelle. She

20:51

said, you're not welcome

20:53

here, you need to go. Jim

20:56

said, why you're not

20:58

allowed on the premise seat. You have to go, and

21:01

we're gonna call the police. That

21:04

was it, and that police came and asked

21:07

Jim to leave, gave him some type of paper

21:10

that said that he was per trespassing,

21:14

and Gim is to this day is still confused

21:17

as a veteran, a two time veteran,

21:20

why it's not allowed. Well, seems

21:22

like one of the things that I noticed,

21:24

Like I've had those UH incidents where

21:26

they have discriminated against and then basically

21:29

paint you as the villain. But one of the things

21:31

is what you guys did because you're a military

21:33

man and you knew that everyone has a channel command

21:36

that everyone there's things down in order that

21:38

you know, if you have a problem with the UH immediate

21:40

person there, that you go over the person

21:43

and then you try to seek resolution. Was

21:45

that what did you guys seek that d try to do that?

21:48

Well, yes we did, but right now

21:50

we're in the process so doing

21:52

the proper yeah, paperwork, Okay,

21:54

you know we got there's a chain command

21:56

of command. Well, we have to write the the

22:00

the Greek right first. In the process of doing

22:02

that right now as we speak, is

22:05

taking a bit because we got to add

22:07

the videos and everything has to go with it.

22:09

Absolutely, And this is where I wanted to point

22:11

out to you. So this is not like they were just

22:14

this was made up or they have concrete

22:16

proof. They have videos they we're going to show

22:18

showed me. And then too, they're trying to see their appropriate

22:21

courses to be able to get some justice

22:23

and accountability. You know. Basically,

22:26

initially it seems like mister Brown was trying

22:28

to get to a conversation be able to de escalate

22:31

the situation. He did not go to the you

22:33

know what we have, go to what we say in

22:35

Chicago, our Negro moment. We want.

22:40

We tried to be able to peaceably

22:43

get to the solution, but they wasn't trying to

22:45

have it. And then what it's usual commonplace

22:48

when they're dealing with African American people, they

22:50

called the police, that weaponized the police to

22:52

call the situation that could have ended in tragic

22:55

consequences. But instead of that,

22:57

he maintained his military bearing and

23:00

discipline and he basically want

23:02

to do this in a way that shows the nest of the

23:04

rest of the public about this type of thing.

23:06

To your service member, a two time veteran, I want

23:09

to point out that serve this country honorably

23:11

is this is not tolerated and shouldn't be accountable,

23:13

even in from former service

23:16

members, veterans or current service members.

23:18

This shouldn't be approachable.

23:20

So, uh, is there anything else

23:22

that I've missed? Because I want to make sure that I want

23:25

to get this conversation that's due

23:27

attention. Well, we want to continue

23:30

to do our work in the community

23:32

with a positive attitude, with

23:35

an attitude of we're

23:37

going to achieve and accomplish

23:39

our goals. We can't let

23:42

the community stop us. We can't let racism

23:44

stop us. We can't let any diversion

23:47

stop us from completing this task.

23:50

If that's out of control, and

23:52

the state governor, mayor,

23:55

I'm asking get involved

23:58

with the community leaders. He

24:00

can solve this problem. Mister

24:03

Brown, you have touched on ineloquently. Would

24:05

you like anything else to add in this? Brown? I

24:08

wants to say that I'm so grateful

24:12

to be here and someone is hearing my

24:14

husband listening to him because

24:16

he really loves cooking. He loves

24:19

serving the community. I met him serving the community.

24:21

He loves it, and I'm so grateful. I'm

24:23

so thankful, and I pray that he could find

24:26

resolution of going back on the post

24:28

and cooking. Like you say,

24:31

he's a two time back and he's a post. He

24:33

has a right to be on that post,

24:35

just like any other veteran. And that's all

24:37

he wants is to be treated equally and treated

24:39

like a human being. Absolutely

24:42

well said. This is still Henderson from

24:44

We in House. I thank you all for listening

24:46

to the story. Like I said, we want,

24:48

basically what is given to everybody,

24:50

be treated like we all are. We all

24:53

have a purpose in this life and we should be treated

24:55

with the same honored industries and dignity

24:58

as everyone else. Thank

25:00

you all for listening, and maybe we again

25:02

meeting the light of understanding. We

25:09

are amazed and not amused by

25:11

all the things you say. The good dudes

25:18

don't much concern but not involved

25:20

with decisions, but a mad by

25:23

you. But

25:27

we are thinking that the

25:30

song sellen

25:33

you don't change back from

25:35

home because

25:37

it you really want her here, argues

25:40

you haven't done.

25:51

It's not too cool to be READO cute,

25:53

but you brought this up on yourself

26:01

over this time passified

26:03

the truth and nothing can

26:10

assist in time in

26:12

the song telling,

26:15

are you going to from

26:17

home? Call if

26:20

you really want your adopt

26:25

me Sason

26:27

God love with mister Tunle

26:31

and to dude,

26:40

I'm going

26:43

we would not care to wake up

26:45

to the nightmare that's been come

26:47

really loud. But

26:53

when missus les who knows the person's

26:55

mind, can turn this cause why

27:01

do you keep on making spare

27:04

your song? Tell

27:06

unless tie your jail way

27:09

around, cause

27:11

if you really want you you're

27:15

wont done nothing?

27:19

Yeah nothing,

27:24

Send about your room and sat

27:28

in the mountain. I

27:32

don't come to the thing

27:35

and that head from

27:37

found to the

27:40

mount see

27:43

the love by your people say and

27:47

then do you gonna becomes

27:49

a to google?

27:52

Come to come

27:54

to I'm This

28:02

is Ceo Henderson from Wiedi and House. We have

28:04

a gentleman here that is going to highlight

28:07

it. Give us a little bit of some background information,

28:09

so let us introduce himself and then we could

28:11

take it from there. My name

28:13

is Rob Reynolds, US

28:16

Army veteran who served in Iraq. I've been

28:19

working and helping the homeless veterans outside

28:22

the West LAVA and involved in this advocacy

28:24

since about July twenty nineteen, two

28:27

years. So what got you involved

28:29

into this advocacy. I

28:31

went through this myself. I came here in twenty

28:33

eighteen. I had a service dog. I went to go get in the VA.

28:36

They told me I had to get rid of the service dog before I could get

28:38

in. Ended up out on the sidewalk writing letters

28:40

to my elected officials. I eventually got

28:42

in with my dog. But

28:46

in the time that I spent out here, I watched how

28:48

there was no outreach. There was no one from the VA

28:50

coming and checking on these guys. There was people attempting

28:52

suicide and all just you know, really

28:54

atrocious things happening. And I did not like it. So

28:58

when I got inside the vaedately, you

29:00

know, started reporting what I was seeing out here to the

29:04

VA White House hot line, the obviously the Inspector

29:06

General, multiple different veteran crisis lines,

29:08

and no one was really doing anything. I

29:12

started going with the homeless veterans. We started bringing

29:14

them to these federal advisory boards where you

29:16

know, the VA sits and they talk about land use policies

29:19

and we're bringing up all these concerns with the homeless veterans

29:21

and no one was addressing them. And it was at that time

29:23

that we met some Vietnam veterans

29:25

and also residence

29:28

of the Brentwood community that kind of gave us a rundown

29:30

on this history of the land fraud that's

29:32

been going on here in the misappropriation of land, and

29:35

I myself in the beginning didn't understand the

29:37

relation between the two. But

29:40

you know, throughout this time it's been in a learning experience

29:43

and it all ties back to one thing. If your primary

29:45

focus is to run real

29:47

estate business, it's not taking care of veterans,

29:50

right. So that's how we're in this position today. Excellently,

29:53

I excellently put so, so, have

29:56

you seen any positive movement away from

29:58

this or is this slowly

30:00

reaching people's attention, because I understand

30:03

there is some tension with the Brentwood

30:05

Community Neighborhood Council,

30:08

but they are part of the problem. Is that correct?

30:12

Yes, So the

30:14

Brentwood Community Council is not recognized

30:16

by the l A n C, which is the Los Angeles

30:18

Neighborhood Council Coalition.

30:20

That's where all the ones that are on that board. You can see him

30:22

on there. Brentwood is not the Brentwood

30:25

Community Council. They're board members

30:28

a lot of the time have been illegal land users.

30:30

It's always people that have some interest in the

30:32

land on this council board. Even

30:35

one of the principal developers was Thomas

30:37

Saffron used to be a VCC board member.

30:39

So it's always like everyone from the BCC gets

30:41

cherry picked for things going on at the West Lava,

30:44

almost to the point where it's like it's their

30:46

property and they're running everything here. And

30:49

I've been in a meeting with council

30:51

member Bonnin where he told me himself,

30:54

he said, you know, the BCC doesn't want homeless

30:56

veterans here at the West Lava. They don't want housing

30:58

for them. You know. Ted Lew

31:00

and his own words at one point in twenty fifteen

31:03

at one of the meetings, said the same thing, that they

31:05

don't want this to become a large depository

31:08

for homeless disabled veterans. And

31:11

it's just a bunch of nimbi neighbors,

31:14

right. But the fact is is this soldier's

31:16

home property has been here for one hundred and thirty three years.

31:19

Civil War soldiers once walked on this property.

31:21

All these towns Brentwood, Westwood, the neighborhood

31:23

of Hotel, they were all developed around this property.

31:26

Right. Veterans helped develop a lot of these communities

31:28

that everyone lives in today. So the fact that

31:30

they're being exiled from their inherited property

31:33

is absolutely unacceptable. I

31:35

totally agree, and I'm just taking aback the

31:38

level of nimbiism that could reach to

31:41

reach. It's just unbelievable. You're

31:43

going to exile people from their own property. Why am

31:45

I not surprised? They did it in Venice, They did it

31:47

in Manhattan Beach. They do it everywhere. They

31:49

come in their antelopes and take over the

31:52

places where there are spaces that

31:54

with the community. Veterans had a community. This

31:57

was a community way before this was

31:59

the neighborhood for britain Wood Neighborhood

32:01

Council or any o. The other nimbies were even

32:03

a thought. Absolutely,

32:05

And you know, this place used

32:07

to be a bustling little city. At one point there was upwards of five

32:09

thousand veterans living on the property, you

32:12

know. And then then

32:14

the VA started focusing on commercially leasing

32:16

off the land for profit and

32:18

the whole focus became, you know,

32:21

selling off the land and not building veteran housing.

32:23

Now, what they did to try to fill

32:25

the gap was they started pushing a lot of these

32:28

hud Vash vouchers. They're essentially

32:30

like a civilian Section eight voucher

32:32

you can get. However, the problem

32:34

is is it can take upwards of three months

32:36

just to get a voucher in hand. So if you don't

32:39

have somewhere where somebody can sit in

32:41

the interim, like a shelter or a housing

32:43

place for them to stay, the likelihood

32:45

of them getting through that process is slim to none.

32:47

Because you're on the street. You got to get ID

32:50

cards the whole thing. I mean, it's like on house.

32:52

People have to go through the gap. That's right, absolutely, And you

32:54

know when you have other cities around the country

32:56

that spend time building shelters and everything,

32:59

in Los Angeles focus was building

33:01

permanent housing. Permanent housing

33:04

is a good thing, but you still have to have some

33:06

type of shelter to keep people in the interim.

33:08

You can't just have them all over the streets. So

33:11

basically they're utilizing Nimbis

33:13

to be able to push this agenda again. But

33:16

the issue is that they and house people

33:18

are keep talking about. What they want is

33:21

basically reasonable housing, safe housing,

33:23

and these congregod shelters according with the COVID

33:26

nineteen, it's not an option anymore. What

33:28

they have now is hotels. Are

33:30

they offering that to you guys. We've

33:33

had a lot of people go through the hotel vouchers, been

33:35

kind of some problems with those. They weren't providing

33:37

food every twenty eight days, they had to

33:39

move to a new hotel room, so they're bouncing around.

33:42

Then money runs out, and we have a lot of guys that were in hotel

33:44

vouchers that are back out on the sidewalk now. And

33:47

I know that there are issues with shelters and the congrege

33:49

living and safety issues and concerns. However,

33:51

what I think a lot of this all ties into is, you

33:53

know, these are simple problems

33:55

to fix. It's our elected officials. You know, they're

33:58

listening to the one percent of the population has all the

34:00

money that lobbies them that you

34:03

know, and that's what happens here. Everybody in between

34:05

gets screwed when our elected officials are

34:07

doing everything to appease these wealthy

34:09

donors. Well, one of the things they are doing

34:12

is with forty one eighteen. I know you've heard of forty

34:14

one to eighteen. It's basically both

34:17

civilians know it. So forty one

34:19

to eighteen is the ordinance that they're trying to do this Wednesday

34:21

to outlaw that the house

34:24

out here veterans they can be near parks,

34:26

around parks, in parks, near

34:29

schools, daycares, any

34:32

place where they where

34:34

their businesses. Their unhoused people are not to be.

34:36

They have allocated a place outside

34:39

of Los Angeles for in house to get people

34:41

to be. So if this passes, this affects

34:43

everybody, uh, civilians and veterans,

34:46

And I was wondering what your perspective is on it. Well,

34:48

thankfully this sidewalk falls within the

34:51

county jurisdiction unincorporated

34:53

county Supervisor

34:55

shielda COOLS officer, does not fall within the city,

34:57

so that won't apply here. And also

35:00

there's a simple solution. We could just get everything

35:02

on the other side of the fence here. We got three hundred and eighty eight

35:04

acres and we could do some really good stuff

35:06

and get them off the street. So that's really what we're

35:08

pushing for. Oh good, good, Well, this

35:11

is news to me because I thought this was part of the city. But

35:13

that's good. This is a county, so you

35:15

guys probably would this probably definitely would pass

35:17

you guys by it, but it will not with the civilian

35:20

population unfortunately. So

35:23

is there anything else that I missed that I should

35:25

have asked you? No, I

35:27

think you pretty much pretty

35:30

much hit everything. And you know,

35:32

I think definitely our elected officials

35:34

need to start putting human beings

35:36

lives before their personal

35:39

agendas and before the special interest groups agendas,

35:41

because it's a lot of what we're getting into here. Absolutely,

35:44

I'm going to I would like to come back and interview

35:47

you again or come and check out get

35:49

deeper into it. I promised the other gentleman.

35:52

Is that okay? Absolutely anytime. Thank

35:54

you for talking with me, and I appreciate

35:56

your time, and I thank you all for listening

35:59

and maybe again meet in the light of understanding

36:02

good. I mean, it's the CEO Henderson from

36:04

Median House and there you could build

36:06

the breeze growing to just been a hot day. It's

36:09

been a hot week, and I

36:11

wanna put to say something about climate change.

36:13

Envilimate change is real. It gets really

36:16

very hot and it would be abruptly cold. But

36:18

one of the things that's preconstant is unhoused

36:20

people, and the unhouse bedroom community

36:23

is out here in enduring and they deserve

36:25

better. So we're here. UH. Last

36:27

time we had a conversation, I'm

36:29

afraid with was a little bit short, but I wanted to

36:31

take the time to come back and interview

36:34

again and to take our

36:36

time to talk to one of the uh one

36:38

of the proponents. I told you recently giving

36:41

out a video if I got shore be the Instagram a

36:43

TikTok about what was going on, and I

36:46

wanted to talk about UH up there the

36:48

community and what's going on. So tell me a little

36:50

bit about UH recap what uh

36:52

what you do and what's the

36:54

lights is so important that you speaker about the very

36:57

important issues, and

37:01

I definitely appreciate you coming out and taking the

37:03

time to understand what's happening. You

37:06

know, I'm a veteran. I

37:09

I went through this, this whole situation

37:11

when I tried to come here and give service in years back, and

37:13

UH just didn't agree with it seeing

37:16

veterans sleeping outside the VA on the

37:18

sidelong because all this planned right here and it doesn't

37:20

make any sense to be really and uh,

37:23

and they're a lot of long.

37:25

I don't understand why won't they allow the

37:28

other community to come out on the law as well? That's

37:30

I not this thing got best right because they

37:32

have the empty building here. But it was just back to

37:35

the groups are well. You

37:37

have to understand COVID. COVID plays a big role

37:39

in this. So the VA

37:41

was supposed to have around four hundred dating units and housing

37:44

built in two thousand twenty, didn't

37:46

have it. Uh. Then when the COVID pandemic

37:48

struck, it was already a shortage of housing,

37:51

and they took all the programs and they went down there fifty

37:53

percent of you didn't see for social distancing guidelines.

37:56

And that's really when the population

37:58

uh homeless veterans on the side while exploding. Every

38:01

time you have an outbreak in one of the buildings, they'll

38:03

shut down admissions and they won't take anybody in and

38:05

everything kind of goes the standstill and the population

38:07

starts to you know, increasing sidewalk correct.

38:10

So that's that's a lot of what happens here.

38:13

They have not been consistent he chasing people in

38:15

throughout the pandemic. Again, every time they have a breakout

38:17

and stop trading people in. But it

38:20

doesn't make any sense because there's plenty of land here,

38:22

be clean, undreds eighty and acres. We can social

38:25

distance everybody. Thank you. I'm

38:27

like, this was the thing. They're like, dude, they're kind of much space

38:29

they have and even down how civilia

38:32

is we we're in the park. We know how

38:34

to coach the distance enough that we have great through

38:36

his moue. This is ridiculable. This

38:38

is a this is insane. It's own right here. We

38:42

just had uh. We had one

38:44

of the veterans US Army veterans and he was

38:46

kind of a fixture of around here. We

38:49

got them inside the inside of camp

38:51

in It actually died last weekend. That's

38:53

the memorial dist What was

38:55

the Gentleman's pagers, right, Jake Tagger

38:58

Taggard the start countries. He was in

39:00

the military of a veteran, and this is

39:03

the reward in America into I'm very

39:05

sorry for the guys to managing law and

39:07

so uh. I I

39:09

wanted to sit tack a step, which is why it's so important

39:12

that housing would immediately helpful

39:14

everyone here in the community. Is

39:16

that recently the sheriff

39:19

has came out and the

39:21

business improvement or people that

39:23

don't like seeing houssness and enjoying

39:25

their comfortas by blockade having listed

39:28

the support of a problematic sheriff

39:31

uh building a wage and who also apparently

39:33

endorsed to Larry Elder, which is another problematic.

39:36

The big experience of dealing with housing

39:38

before that, no experience was did it. He

39:40

says that he's been thirty days. He's going

39:42

to remove all of these guys. What

39:45

do you think of that? Uh, well, it's definitely

39:47

not gonna happen. So he was in about

39:49

two weeks ago he was in a Grantwich community council

39:51

here they brought up to cam

39:54

in He said that they were gonna do an assessment period. He

39:56

actually uh met with the Sheriff's Cork

39:58

ghost team right out for that meeting. And

40:01

then we have the Sheriff's department host and we have a

40:03

town hall with all the veterans. So we set up with all the

40:05

VA directors, all the homers veterans from the sheriffs.

40:08

We went over to the questions, you know, questions and answers

40:10

with the riffs department can also filled them

40:12

in on you know what's going on here

40:15

in the VA and the history and the things that happen. And

40:18

the thing is when they do start their assessments,

40:21

which they have not started yet yet, they're

40:23

very easily gonna see that every time you get

40:25

to three veterans' side, four or five more

40:27

show up. And also

40:29

this VA has a terrible problems to recycling, essentially

40:32

recycling vetterans. They go, they go into programs

40:34

and the kick them right out for kissing a head check. Yeah,

40:37

there's a lot of artural appects

40:39

to the program ye, similar

40:42

to the Pavilion treatment of it. But yeah, clean,

40:45

Yeah, and the COVID they've really used

40:47

COVID lyric manage it as far as meeting a lot

40:49

of the rules more strict. These guys

40:51

can't even leave to go on you know, if there are any of this programs.

40:53

They can't even leave to go to the store without someone

40:56

from the DA walking with them go down

40:59

to the store. They can't walk around the property and I get

41:01

up, go for a walk or do anything. So they're really kind of like isivating

41:04

everybody in group? Yeah, and it's it's

41:06

uh, it kind of goes against all logical you know

41:08

people, Yes, TV and they need to be able to get out

41:10

and boom around right out of stuck in your head's

41:12

so a lot of them in their rooms and stuff. It's just problematic

41:15

and causes you know, causes people to constantly

41:17

get kicked out. And so until you

41:20

know these problems, that's fixed, and it's gonna keep seeing

41:22

veterans on the sidewine. And

41:25

there's a there's some really simple solutions to it.

41:27

I mean, there's there's no reason why we can't set

41:29

up large tents, so one of these buildings

41:31

and have a bunch of continent where you just have immediate same

41:34

day services the veterans shows up and give him a place to

41:36

stay. It's not the same amount to street because

41:38

this is uh no, you can do better than that. You're gonna

41:40

do you know they are I I than

41:42

on how they can't uh play through that

41:45

at least is a comfortable with grot in the airmatic. I

41:47

mean, if the different things that you can do the gun humanize

41:49

people, you don't have to make them feel like they are

41:52

a gale where they've dug truck of wall forbes

41:54

on pound. If not in a crime to people

41:57

period. If not in crime, you have the challenges

41:59

are they to happen? Life happens to we

42:02

the ridiculous idea that popet me through cunnigs

42:04

or yailed or or thrown out in the suitet

42:07

or shot through the field or all of

42:09

these crazy things that if the counting through

42:11

in general, it really bobles me and I

42:13

even inho like the police

42:15

or Saffill always become at the favorite

42:17

day then it's week. Is a horrible example

42:21

at your carve with another horrible example, they literally

42:23

heared people in trying to get treat them in health

42:26

because they were running around attacking them,

42:28

throwing the new jails and things like that. So they're

42:30

not gonna be deep or go back and try

42:32

to get the help even if you aren't going

42:34

to be sincere about it. Absolutely,

42:38

and this is a this is a whole different situation

42:40

here. And when these guys are they're not down

42:42

on venice the h they're not in for us so h

42:45

they're right outside of the AA, they're right outside

42:47

of property they just needed for them, right the

42:49

tax players paid dearly to have

42:52

these guys house to take care of may have benefits.

42:54

They should not even be in this position. And

42:56

again it just goes into the history. You say, have five thousand

42:58

veterans living on the property when there were none homeless in

43:01

the local community here and half fall

43:03

homeless around this. BA are better for student

43:05

So it's, uh, it's about

43:07

time that they get these guys back in the land.

43:09

And I think, you know, we're getting in that direction. We're insurance

43:12

gonna happening. But it's just, you know,

43:14

with any large bureaucracy, it's such

43:16

a push and shoventural really get too. Do you

43:18

think the Sheriff's Department's goland make the things

43:21

work? Because they are not. I'm

43:23

not saying that they're not. Uh that you don't have a lot of pots through the

43:25

veteran but if the community pressure

43:27

them to, you display people in your own because

43:30

I look at this as basically literally it is a

43:32

veteran land and you can't have them

43:34

in droves in the veteran community. What

43:37

do you think is just gonna happen. That's gonna cause more

43:39

you know, trauma, and it's gonna cause like

43:42

I understand that twenty two a day is

43:44

the suicide race for u uh vectlum.

43:47

So if it's going to spike it

43:49

or is it going to do people. I

43:52

think that the pandemic is actually you know, spike

43:54

a lot of it and a lot of things. Yes,

43:57

if if the Shriff's word,

43:59

come in and we can aggressive with people. If you remember,

44:01

we have sixteen of these guys out here in combat

44:04

veteran, so we serve multiple tours and stuff.

44:06

There's there's no need to gitting pressure anyone

44:08

in that way. And they

44:11

haven't yet, have not done anything yet, been

44:13

respectful of the situation. We'll

44:16

see how that goes as things to progress, but

44:19

it's gonna be it's gonna be very difficult

44:21

to come in and remove everyone because you know,

44:23

we know exactly what each individual. I know

44:25

what each individual is waiting for as far as their

44:27

service is for. And uh, everybody's

44:30

waiting for something, whether that be a DASS voucher

44:33

or a hotel voucher, or a train to take it back home,

44:35

plan you take it back home, or the way that you get into one

44:37

of the programs right now. So we have all

44:39

that very well documented and

44:41

we're constantly sharing that information and just letting

44:43

you know, Cheff's department in the county and everybody know,

44:46

Hey, these are what these guys are waiting for let's

44:48

not do anything to remove them, or you haven't

44:50

had any more stress to them, Let's get them what they need. You

44:53

would make a very good point. It's a big respector

44:55

that we've had many of the house people in the

44:57

in the pact that we're in goes forward the different

45:00

and like the UH section a UH

45:02

find housing vouchers and things like that the

45:04

opportunity and unfortunately

45:07

the city has shown particulars

45:09

filling the waiver has shown UH along

45:11

the lay review as well. I don't wanna get to ruin

45:13

or but the sheriff because it is there, they're for Romain.

45:16

It has basically turned a blind

45:18

eye and that basically displaced

45:21

them. And that's the thing what it is. They didn't displace

45:23

them too much to Tea or twenty miles

45:25

away from the services UH are

45:28

also put in next if

45:30

not into the area where the membies are, but also

45:32

flooded and other neighborhoods who are now

45:35

creating their own kind of UH are

45:38

schools kind of environment. They

45:40

also have created forty one eighteen uh

45:42

ammdies. So if there be even much more

45:45

tractonian for and house people that

45:47

are civilians su g UH

45:49

against the city against

45:52

sleeping even lying down. And

45:54

if you know the human bottom l functions, you cannot

45:56

just pick the walk forever. You got to sit

45:59

somewhere, you got I could rent from there, and we

46:01

got to light out. So they are they

46:03

Their idea is that they offered you a hunger good

46:05

shelter right now where the pertendage

46:07

of COVID outreats are very high, and

46:10

you turn it down. That's the foot for me because

46:12

what you did. But there's not enough jail for for

46:15

over sixty thousand county. I'm

46:17

just concerned that yet that it's true that they're

46:20

being they're acting slow moving,

46:22

but I don't want to see what happens to Pa.

46:24

Willions happen to effective because

46:26

I and if by all right, you guys should be out here

46:29

anyway, Yeah, none of these guys should

46:31

be out here. It's gonna be difficult.

46:33

So this is the jurisdiction here is is a little

46:35

weird. So on the sidewalk, the

46:38

lights that you see on the sidewalk are owned by the county,

46:40

so therefore to considered county jurisdiction. So

46:42

those that anti camping organs doesn't have at

46:44

from the city of Los Angeles right, actually doesn't attact

46:47

these guys thankfully, you go, a county doesn't adopted

46:49

anything like that yet. And Supervisor

46:52

Sheila Coole's office, this is this is her district

46:54

church. Everybody's a district free she

46:57

said she wants to see all

47:00

guys in permanent house. Right, So

47:02

again, I know the sheriff's got are not going

47:05

few of the John Gorde supervisors,

47:08

So we'll kind of see how that how

47:10

it all flows out. But you

47:13

know a lot of the some

47:15

of the officers on hosting are veterans too, so you

47:17

can spend a lot of time, you know, talking with them and just

47:19

larning situation. You know, in light

47:21

of everything that's happening in Afghanistan

47:24

right now. You know, that's why it's

47:26

so important for this to be fixed, because the guys

47:28

that are getting wounded and injured in Afghanistan, if

47:30

they can come home and they couldn't to

47:32

this area, they're gonna be on the side who

47:34

after that's problem. That's part

47:37

that can't happen. Yeah, this is absolutely

47:40

unacceptable that this is going on, and

47:43

I think I think we're

47:45

about to see some good change as far as getting

47:47

guys taken care of the gang. You

47:50

just never know that. Yeah, yeah, and

47:52

that good thing. You know. I I thought I have leave

47:54

to the backup because I have a pavilion, I

47:56

have feeling that popusness. I know how

47:59

they look good good politically. And then we

48:02

have ap a park or here we have you

48:04

know they're looking at they're actually here of a

48:07

membies that are actually diking

48:09

in here of building the wave to can it,

48:11

to insert themselves in the

48:14

fight of your profit now in a little way

48:16

of prusishuit wasn't a big speech, but

48:19

he's reserve Againstuffy and he

48:21

caused unfortunately a lot of tram unharmed

48:23

to the a house pavilion who had

48:25

different things that were going on, and that wasn't member.

48:28

And so I I worry you know that

48:31

he he would try it here, But I I have a

48:34

suspicion it may be a little bit of a different

48:36

fight because you know, you, like you said, you have

48:38

a combat next him. It's not fun to be

48:40

the easier win where you can just try to intimidate

48:42

thirteen cops. To intimidate the civilian,

48:45

U uh, that's vulnerable. You got veterans

48:47

that you know that night they might not

48:49

want to smoke psicar uh figuratively

48:52

and little ye know they're

48:55

not. It's not gonna be uh easy to come

48:57

in and intimidate any of these guys. I sure he's

48:59

that. And you know what's

49:01

been eye opening for me is veterans obviously

49:03

have a lot more resources to hand than the

49:06

civilian house h Even

49:08

with all the resources get veterans have

49:10

and all the enemies that we bring in here, it's still

49:12

a very long process. So I can

49:15

only imagine how I'm hardy it must be for someone

49:17

on the civilian side going through all

49:19

of this to get get housing.

49:21

You must be like an attorney. If

49:23

I'm seeing here with these guys who have a ton of resources,

49:26

then it must be that much worse for the civilian

49:28

population. And then the mented

49:30

you try to get the rest if you'd compably live, but

49:32

maybe trying to put through a gap, and

49:34

then you gotta fire all over again and pick it everything.

49:38

Yeah, And I think, uh, you know, a lot of the lot

49:40

of the excuses are the red tape. If everything he

49:42

will take care of. But you know, for instance, right now

49:45

you see in afghanistand we'll

49:47

bring you over a lot of the refuge teams that helped

49:49

uh assist US service members during

49:51

you know, the twenty year War, and they're gonna bring them back over

49:53

here, and they're putting forward the legislation

49:56

to cut through the red tape to get these people immediately

49:58

housed on the military takes. So we

50:01

can do that for the refugees. And why

50:03

can't we cut them some red tape and some legislation

50:05

for to get the veterans immediately house or get

50:07

small you know, explain from immediately house areas

50:10

not okay, i'se broke,

50:12

Maybe give my intence. Why can't

50:15

gigs is literally just as the empty building.

50:17

Why can't get gets the back tomorrow? Say

50:19

hey, we're gonna put you here. We

50:22

don't have to build a building. We don't have to go to the city

50:25

hall, we don't have to pray and moan about

50:27

it. We have you have to play here.

50:30

Why can't they just basically took them here?

50:32

They don't. I mean they're differ head to africcoery to

50:35

help the build their land. They have a building

50:37

that's not occupied. They can book them in

50:39

and out then tomorrow. But it

50:42

doesn't take a view. It shouldn't pay of us. I

50:44

mean for the differ, but EASi

50:46

not if not a no brainer, it is

50:48

a no brainer. And the problem here

50:51

is just something that's been going on for decades is

50:54

the politics behind the property. You have a lot

50:56

of big money influence that wants to be on this land

50:58

and two the biggest ones ever. I'm with school in DC

51:01

regions in U c. L A. Naturally this building

51:03

right behind us here, this is a research and development

51:05

building. They

51:07

do some really crazy things in their animal

51:10

testing. They recently just got less regilancy kind

51:12

of your experiments on the continent the thing. Wow,

51:15

yes, so you UCLA actually uses

51:17

a lot of this land for their research and

51:19

development, and you

51:22

know that benefits the hospital resement. But UCLA

51:24

is not even supposed to be honest land or what donating for them.

51:27

So that's uh, that definitely shouldn't be happening.

51:30

They shouldn't have all this new town influence. They

51:32

have baseball stadiums on the land. UCLA gets

51:34

reading pretty much whatever they want when it comes to this property.

51:37

And they're not veterans. It's not a veteran organization. It's

51:39

a you know, it's the building. Yeah, that's

51:42

the something I didn't know you you the bigot. You see,

51:45

regions got a lot of money and influence. Okay,

51:47

okay, So that's one of the reasons why if

51:49

they are off of the frijuditative are probably just

51:51

played on the very faith this is good

51:53

land anyway, this is different

51:55

land. And then they are throwing them out on their own.

51:58

Man, you think about it. For u c. L A. There's really

52:00

good hospital, I think number one in California and not

52:02

mistaken. But you know, they run

52:04

all their residents through here at the VA, so all

52:07

the home the doctors get all their training out and all

52:09

the mistakes, all their issues on the veterans. They

52:11

run all their research programs on the veterans.

52:14

So it's they really

52:16

utilize in the veteran population and utilize

52:19

based plans for their betters. They have their own self

52:21

game. They really don't. They

52:24

do not get back to home with veterans really

52:26

at all. It's just an absolutely fair minimum.

52:29

And you know, then for instance, we have Brentwood

52:31

School. There's got another thirty acres up there and they

52:33

control a lot of what goes on here. It's a lot of money.

52:36

Kids that go there pay forty thousand dollars a

52:38

year. Pers few of your parents. It's

52:42

uh, it's really insane.

52:44

So that's that's what the whole push is on this property.

52:46

They have plans they want to utilize this. When

52:48

I say ay, I'm talking about the VA

52:50

and the special interest groups that want to turn

52:52

this into a downtown Brentwood and push

52:55

all the homeless veterans places like skid Row or

52:57

dat down on things like that. And they already

52:59

do what they forget. They already got the MBIs

53:01

and they already got the business improve the district

53:04

and cop probably proving that up. It's

53:06

it's gonna be that will

53:08

be a meth. Yeah, it would be a math. It

53:10

is gonna be a mess, definitely,

53:14

And it's just, uh, it's really unfortunate because

53:16

it's a lot of our you know, our

53:18

elected officials are too worried about again

53:20

a teasing their wealth for donors, and they're

53:23

not listening to the you know, everyday people

53:25

and they're just ignoring them and going to one whoever

53:27

got the most money to their campaign. That's who they're gonna listen

53:29

to, and everyone else canna get screwed

53:31

the way. Yeah, for

53:34

instance, you know, this is the this is the thirty third

53:36

Congression of the district. I mean this is Congressman Ted Lewis

53:38

district. Congressman Ted Lou's office,

53:40

his west side office is literally about a mile down the street.

53:43

Oh wow, congress from ted louis an Air Force veteran

53:45

congress and Ted Loo has never

53:48

once step foot out

53:50

here, had even an intern step

53:52

foot out here. Despite us having Lascy

53:54

Council. They're trying to supervisors office everyone

53:57

here. However, Congressman

53:59

Tedloo, right, it's a lot of the legislation

54:01

that affects everyone here. He's responsible for a lot

54:03

of the planning US is. Yes,

54:06

So it's very uh, it's

54:09

very promatic. He is a veteran.

54:13

What he's doing is just it's unacceptable.

54:17

And regardless of you know, what

54:21

the accusations are of his involvement in the propt

54:23

or anything like that, it doesn't matter because the fact

54:25

is in his district a

54:28

mile from one of his offices outside

54:30

the VA, there's fifty veterans, sixteen

54:32

of which are combat veterans, and there's been people

54:34

reaching out, veteran service organizations reaching

54:36

out of his office for two years. This

54:39

guy has done nothing, absolutely

54:42

nothing, and for someone in

54:44

his position, it has the power and influence

54:46

to be able to effect you a change

54:48

and get some people taken care of it. Just to ignore

54:51

it. I mean, that's that's just disgraceful.

54:53

Yeah, right, totally agreeable,

54:56

and it's very problematic. And he's a veteran talent

54:59

at least give we've heard to hear a man calls leave

55:01

from Americ comparent or even a cown copy.

55:03

You know the leads with that. Well, Henry

55:06

Waxman was the congressman prior

55:09

to Ted Liu in this distance year. He

55:11

all the time he would come here and have town halls

55:13

with the veterans and age of what's going on. And that's normally

55:16

how it happens to Das. But Congressman

55:18

Ted Lou does not do that. I mean back to the

55:20

when he first got into office. One

55:23

of the first things to dick here at the West Laba was

55:28

after the lawsuit there was a loss of that happened and

55:31

these leases were supposed to be evicted. There

55:33

was this soccer club called FC Breaker Soccer Club

55:36

and they were utilizing mac Arthur Field, which the

55:38

back of the BA, and they received the federal

55:40

eviction notice. It was just a soccer club

55:42

like civilians soccer moms. So they

55:44

receive a viction notice. Congressman tedlou

55:47

steps in and intervenes and stops the eviction

55:49

of Epsley Breaker Soccer Club thanks

55:51

to a Floyer request. You know why, And his whole

55:53

excuse was he thought it would be bad publicity

55:56

to kick out soccer mon But the thing

55:59

is where down the

56:01

field is you're they're supposed to be evicted, rum,

56:03

we're supposed to be housing us. They now have not

56:05

been building, and it stopped that election that

56:07

was going the first six times years. Then

56:11

you know, it's just have you not done that? You

56:14

really have housing? Yeah? Yeah,

56:16

So it's it's a lot of let's

56:20

just spend years in the making. That's

56:22

the thing too. I could said, you know this is not

56:25

this is not some far flung place we have.

56:27

You know you don't have to This is the community

56:30

affecting. This is the community where

56:33

you don't have to be a the NB moms talking about

56:35

unhoused people or people's going

56:37

stop or they're gonna attacter a poor

56:39

field. This is there, this is their area.

56:41

There's no excuse for them to have and

56:44

yet this still don't have house. This is the issue.

56:46

So it's never really about these these stories,

56:49

these pectious a narratives that they make

56:51

up, is that they just don't want to be the right thing

56:54

and that it needs to change. No matter if

56:56

you civilian or or a military

56:59

on how, you just deserve housing, you

57:01

deserve servicely, you deserve to be treated

57:03

justin you as a hut be being. Just

57:06

because you uh in a building doesn't mean you're better

57:08

than someone that doesn't not anyone.

57:10

So is there anything else that I miss in

57:13

trouble fifth? No, I think, uh think

57:15

pretty much covered everything. And I've

57:19

definitely uh, I

57:22

feel that we're gonna we're gonna have some good rogats

57:24

here as far as getting things change of planning we already

57:26

have. It's unfortunate

57:28

that it's taken this long, and I

57:31

just really hope that everyone kind of kiss

57:33

ourselves in here before we have another other

57:36

death. Since I've been involved in this, you know,

57:38

six veterans not

57:40

slangs next in the last two

57:42

years, and that's really that's really too many to be dying

57:45

right house type of the A. Yeah, that's that's kinds

57:47

and there's more than that. It's just ones that I know, but

57:51

definitely thinking for on out they're doing

57:53

what you do. Really appreciate it. I'm gonna

57:55

do. I'm a determinative thing on the space to see, like

57:58

you say, I'm hopefully I next time I

58:00

interview is some of be in the more positive circumstances.

58:03

And again Rob sks up the bike and I go said,

58:05

I will be doing my part next year as well

58:07

to educated of our positioning business. Again,

58:10

thank you very much, just the Siohinnersipvidian

58:13

house. I thank you all for listening. And

58:15

maybe we again't leave in the light of unders. You

58:17

might have asked a few questions, that's your

58:20

and why are we here? We're here

58:22

protesting the

58:25

disrespect that they

58:27

are given the veterans

58:30

of America. When

58:33

America called me, I

58:35

answered the call. Now

58:38

I'm back and I turned to

58:40

America and get a tent.

58:46

Then, never wonder why I don't vote

58:49

on them. It ain't a racial thing.

58:51

I know ignorance and stupidity

58:54

when I see it, I ain't got

58:56

to bathe in it. And that's

58:59

from a sea.

59:16

No, dude, we're not speculation.

59:19

We're left that we're sucking damn

59:22

right, shut them nothing

59:24

to say, absolutely, thank

59:27

you for your service. Let

59:30

me talk with

59:37

me who

59:44

I can

1:00:02

oh yea, so thank you? And

1:00:04

I here tell you yu, yeah,

1:00:16

thank you. I'm right. The fun well

1:00:33

you can see now, Uh,

1:00:35

this veteran is truly finding out

1:00:38

what the Sheriff's department really think of him. Man, everyone

1:00:40

else out here so nothing?

1:01:40

What else? What else

1:01:42

do you want for me? What? Oma?

1:01:47

What? Well? Did I? Damn? Do you? People? What

1:01:51

can't up? I say something?

1:01:54

I want to get

1:01:57

up from up. That's

1:02:02

not the escalation that you guys. This

1:02:05

is Stil Henderson from Willia and House. This is mister Garcia,

1:02:08

who's going to tell us he's a marine, tell

1:02:10

us a little about what's going on. What are we doing here? Well,

1:02:13

we're out here telling too that excuse

1:02:15

me. We're out here telling Ted mister

1:02:17

Lou that these tents are not acceptable

1:02:20

housing for veterans, especially for disabled

1:02:23

veterans. This is

1:02:25

extremely beyond

1:02:27

pathetic. When we were talking about Aland there's

1:02:29

three hundred and eighty eight acres of land that was

1:02:32

donated to specifically house

1:02:34

disabled veterans. Right, there's a reason

1:02:36

they donated that line to us is because every

1:02:38

once in a while, when we come back from combat, we

1:02:41

might not all be there and we need our buddies

1:02:43

to watch over us. So

1:02:45

it was designed as a veterans home, right

1:02:48

for veterans come back home to, so we

1:02:50

could take care of each other. However, Congressman

1:02:53

Ted lou has decided that those

1:02:55

three hundred and eighty eight acres our best

1:02:58

for the Brandwick community. So they could their

1:03:00

bicycles, so they could swim, so they could

1:03:02

play golf, so they could play football,

1:03:04

so the kids to have a nice education,

1:03:08

while veterans are literally dying on their

1:03:10

doorstep, just wayne begging to get in.

1:03:13

Let me actually, let me jump back a bit, because I remember

1:03:16

I came here earlier when down the House community

1:03:18

was out there, and I understood

1:03:20

that the neighborhood councils were pushing

1:03:22

because for the removal of unhoused

1:03:25

people. Flashback today, I

1:03:27

see unhoused people in tiny sheds

1:03:29

and in tents outside. Why

1:03:33

is that a problem for the veterans. Well,

1:03:36

because UCLA has the buildings that we're supposed

1:03:39

to be inside of. Brentwood School has

1:03:41

the buildings that Brentwood School has twenty acres,

1:03:44

they got an Olympic size, he did swimming

1:03:46

pool. We don't even have sufficient

1:03:49

restrooms, you know, So UCLA.

1:03:51

They have their baseball stadium there. There's

1:03:54

plans for them to have a practice baseball

1:03:56

stadium there. The Purple

1:03:58

line, they're having a public train stop

1:04:00

there. This is land specifically

1:04:03

designed to house on housed

1:04:06

disabled veterans. There

1:04:08

shouldn't be anyone on that property in

1:04:10

those buildings aside from one house disabled veterans.

1:04:12

So that's it. Brace is a good question because

1:04:15

the city usually loves to say that

1:04:17

they have no housing, but you have a place in

1:04:19

housing, and we have civilians and

1:04:22

rich residents are kicking people

1:04:24

out of their places. That's the effect of gentrification.

1:04:27

So what would it be? What would be

1:04:30

the message that you sent to Ted lou today. Your

1:04:34

intentions are obvious ed. You don't

1:04:36

want veterans on your property. I have no idea

1:04:38

how you call yourself a veteran your active

1:04:41

duty. This is dereliction of duty. You

1:04:44

haven't never walked out to veterans row.

1:04:46

You have never looked at any one of these guys in the face.

1:04:48

I challenge you to spend five minutes

1:04:51

face to face with Rob Reynolds, just talk

1:04:53

to them about the problems. Bring up a problem

1:04:55

to Rob Reynolds face. I dare you last

1:04:59

question, and one of the questions that I

1:05:01

feel is important is because Ted Lou's

1:05:04

pseudo solution was to disperse

1:05:06

the veterans out in Los Angeles proper.

1:05:08

And I don't know if you've been following closely what's

1:05:11

going on in the city. There is an ordinance

1:05:13

called forty one to eighteen that was passed by twelve

1:05:15

city council members, and it criminalizes

1:05:17

poverty and people living and sleeping

1:05:19

and lying outside near sensitive areas

1:05:22

like parks, schools, daycarees,

1:05:26

underpasses, overpasses, basically everywhere

1:05:28

in the city. So the solution that he's

1:05:30

trying to do is that means you will be susceptible

1:05:33

to the same laws that on houseavillians

1:05:35

are. So what's your perspective on that. You think

1:05:37

that's going to be a good solution to do criminalize

1:05:40

poor people? No, that's

1:05:42

just feeding the problem. It's

1:05:44

part of the greater problem where no

1:05:47

one is really coming up for solutions to house

1:05:50

un housed. They're just creating this little cycle

1:05:52

of just like push, you're kicking the can

1:05:54

along right in the sense, it's not really can. It's

1:05:57

a big old lot of money that everyone just

1:05:59

kicking the kick around to

1:06:02

to to kind of and then that want of money just feeds

1:06:04

everybody but on house. So that's

1:06:06

definitely not a solution. All the vest was dispersed

1:06:09

throughout l A property. Uh, they're they're

1:06:11

they're not the best areas

1:06:13

in within l A. I visited a bunch of them,

1:06:15

so I know. And then aside from that, they

1:06:18

it's it's carcereal housing. Uh, they

1:06:20

got a lot of rules they I mean, we're grown

1:06:22

men and they can't have like a guest, right,

1:06:25

I mean, that's that's that's that's

1:06:27

that's unimaginable.

1:06:30

That's beyond just stupid.

1:06:33

But anyway, my feelings that they're just gonna

1:06:35

end up right back on the street because they're not gonna like that housing.

1:06:37

They're gonna rather have their freedom on the

1:06:40

street than inside of a jail. Well

1:06:42

put, Thank you, mister Garcia. This is the CEO Henderson

1:06:45

Food and House. This puts ships more light

1:06:47

on it and we hope again that we're meeting

1:06:49

in a live of understanding. Thank you very much. Thank

1:06:51

you brother for that was really the same. This

1:06:59

is CEO Henderson and William Howees. We were in the

1:07:01

plant. One of the people in the fights that has been.

1:07:03

I've been following his Instagram

1:07:06

lives about the situation. So,

1:07:08

mister Sinnet, without further do tell

1:07:11

us a little bit about why we're here and give us

1:07:13

some background. You've been educating for a while

1:07:15

about the property, what's going on. I've

1:07:17

been watching some of your videos, so can you give

1:07:19

us a snapshot of what's going on? Yeah? Absolutely

1:07:22

so. My first peak into

1:07:24

this whole situation was actually when COVID started.

1:07:26

I saw tents popping up inside the VA, and

1:07:28

I saw them popping up on the parking lot, and

1:07:30

I, just as a resident in LA driving

1:07:33

by, was wanting to check it out, and I was asking the people

1:07:35

sleeping on the asphalt intents like yo, who's

1:07:38

organized? Who thought that was a good idea? With all the grass

1:07:40

and land, and knowing there's abandoned building

1:07:43

and stuff, I just started asking questions. Then

1:07:46

fast forward in August, I

1:07:48

was told that the host team was going to be attending

1:07:51

a meeting on the VA property, and

1:07:53

so I went to that and I filmed a consecutive

1:07:56

ninety minute video and I shared

1:07:58

it, and it was Lieutenant Did and his

1:08:00

team talking about their intention for

1:08:03

cleaning up the sidewalk of

1:08:05

Brentwood on San Basani wilshare, which

1:08:08

is against the gate of the VA. So

1:08:10

I started going every Tuesday Thursday documenting

1:08:12

exactly what vets were being told, what was then

1:08:15

occurring. I've seen vets get all

1:08:17

their stuff thrown away, put in a car, told

1:08:19

they were going to a center. They got to the center,

1:08:21

it wasn't what they thought. Some didn't have the things

1:08:23

they needed when they got to the center and

1:08:26

actually came back to all of their belongings being

1:08:28

thrown in the trash. And we would then use

1:08:30

the mister Chuck Point community

1:08:32

to raise instant money for tents

1:08:34

and all these things. And so the

1:08:36

people have definitely been supporting in different ways

1:08:40

the veterans, and I think now

1:08:42

that the tents are inside, you

1:08:45

don't have that community. It's hard for me to even

1:08:47

starting out the relationships and continue

1:08:49

talking to the people and the residents that I once did.

1:08:52

And same with the people that formed and would

1:08:54

stop by right with the good food and the good vibes.

1:08:56

That stopped because now they're on the property. Sovan

1:09:00

is a US Army veteran and he

1:09:02

came and we were having a casual

1:09:04

conversation. He said, how come everyone's

1:09:07

rallying for a Black lives matter. How come, George

1:09:09

Floyd, you're rallying police brutality, people

1:09:12

rally, how come vets aren't rallying regarding

1:09:14

this issue? And I got to say, it struck

1:09:16

a cord and within five minutes we

1:09:18

posted off an American flag

1:09:21

saying, YO meet us at this time this day on eleven

1:09:23

seventeen, ten am, and we're gonna go to TEDL

1:09:25

Loo's office. This is just the community

1:09:27

and the people advocating. Why are vets sleeping

1:09:30

in tents? Why do we

1:09:32

trust people to sacrifice their life from

1:09:34

more than one time? Some of these guys have sacrificed,

1:09:37

signed on the doll line more than once. They come back.

1:09:39

Now they're on a federal property three times

1:09:41

the size of Disneyland. But they aren't allowed to fork,

1:09:44

they aren't allowed a tool. If

1:09:46

they have a shower, it's limited

1:09:49

hours. They can't take showers in a night before bed. Why

1:09:51

why do we treat the people who've served

1:09:53

us like they're in an institution when we should

1:09:55

actually be treating them with hospitality. I think should

1:09:57

be four seasons hospitality for those who' us.

1:10:01

And if there's any corruption,

1:10:03

fraud, that I've seen

1:10:05

that's affecting people and dying on a curb

1:10:07

that have sacrificed everything. It's

1:10:10

these veterans, and so I'm happy

1:10:12

to bring any advocacy, community and

1:10:15

outreach to this issue. So

1:10:18

you put in a mouthful that there's so many things to

1:10:20

and that's great. I'm great you're putting this in because

1:10:23

one of the things the stories that they have with on

1:10:25

house civilians is that they don't

1:10:27

have a place to stay. The difference between unhoused

1:10:30

veterans they do have a state to play plus

1:10:32

to stay, but house people have over

1:10:34

infiltrated their areas where they could be. Like

1:10:36

the Brentwood Neighborhood council, Uh, these

1:10:39

people are taking over these the

1:10:41

land, are stealing their land where

1:10:43

they can be and then on top of it, to add

1:10:45

insult to injury, it seems like they're complaining

1:10:48

about the very problem that they created. What

1:10:51

what kind of consequences do you

1:10:53

think the civilian community, like these

1:10:55

business neighborhood councils should

1:10:57

be getting because I think this is uh, very

1:11:00

problematic. I mean, anyone benefiting

1:11:03

from that land and advocating that that

1:11:05

land should be used for anything but and

1:11:07

serving veterans, to me is some

1:11:10

form of corruption and fraud. I'm not a lawyer,

1:11:13

but it's very obvious to me that that is

1:11:16

illegal and not okay, and really

1:11:19

the most unethical and moral thing that could ever be

1:11:21

imaginable. So the fact that we got to talk about laws when

1:11:23

we're looking at veterans dying

1:11:26

intents on a curb is disgusting.

1:11:28

Something you mentioned that I think is specific is

1:11:31

and I think it's got to be looked at all. Right,

1:11:33

regarding LA and homelessness, there's what sixty

1:11:35

seventy thousand plus homeless, Okay. I've

1:11:38

heard ten percent is veterans. Okay,

1:11:40

so if that's six thousand veterans, great. What

1:11:42

I've seen is a lot of services LASA,

1:11:45

Saint Joseph. Right, you have all these services that

1:11:47

are LA funded. They show up and then they offer

1:11:49

veterans different things at different

1:11:51

places. Right, And I've been witnessing this. This

1:11:53

is a disservice to LA. Any service

1:11:56

talking to veterans in

1:11:59

trying to house them in these motels, hotels

1:12:01

and different structures is all a disservice

1:12:03

to Los Angeles. Because Los Angeles already has a homeless

1:12:05

epidemic. Problem. We already

1:12:08

have too many people on the street, and so they need to be

1:12:10

advocating getting those people on the land where

1:12:12

the services and the best hospitals with the best

1:12:14

doctors, where it is

1:12:16

on the property that they need to serve, visit

1:12:19

and extend. If you go to Instagram and try to

1:12:21

tag via the VA, I want to be clear,

1:12:23

it says VA campus. This is propaganda

1:12:25

and bullshit. That is not a campus campus.

1:12:28

You come and go. It's supposed to be their home, where

1:12:30

they live, and it's not supposed to be something. Oh you're

1:12:32

having a tough time, let me give you this. No,

1:12:34

it's not like a donation. It's supposed

1:12:36

to be thank you. It's like yours

1:12:39

home. Home is different than stay

1:12:41

here for a few nights if you need it. But like

1:12:43

when you're off on your two feet, you're good. No, actually

1:12:46

and with me and jump in

1:12:49

right quick and asks about the event of forty one

1:12:51

eighteen. I don't know if you've been following it. Forty

1:12:53

one eighteen is utilized was approved

1:12:55

by twelve city council members

1:12:58

to criminalize sleeping, lying and existing

1:13:00

outside. Now what they am saying

1:13:02

with ted Lu's conversation stating

1:13:04

that he's going to disperse on how civilians

1:13:07

on house veterans out there, What do you think

1:13:09

is going to happen to the in house veterers who

1:13:12

fall under the forty one eighteen trap.

1:13:14

I see them getting

1:13:17

no benefit, no special treatment. I

1:13:19

see the police treating nobody differently

1:13:21

when they're in circumstances that many

1:13:24

of these people are in and there,

1:13:29

I think it's a they're criminalizing. When

1:13:31

you criminalize someone, that's the easiest way to

1:13:34

dehumanize someone. So it's

1:13:36

the lead. It's a way to infrastructurely

1:13:39

say these people are bad and we need to remove

1:13:41

them because we're all now unsafe. And you have

1:13:44

kids, right, oh, unsafe. We

1:13:46

don't treat criminals as humans, so

1:13:48

okay, And what is that? It's giving them

1:13:50

a ticket they don't show up in court. Now they have a warrant.

1:13:52

And when you go tell any old lady

1:13:54

or old person round here, this guy's got a warrant, it sounds

1:13:57

like he just killed two people and is going to kill

1:13:59

your sib. And not only that, there's

1:14:01

even some in the in house community that runs around

1:14:03

talking about career criminals and that kind

1:14:06

of thing. Once you get that narrative

1:14:08

going with the aid of main street

1:14:10

media and not understanding the complexities.

1:14:14

You can't survive but be on

1:14:16

the streets. So you're going to criminalize them, give them tickets

1:14:18

or if we put them in jail, you're creating the

1:14:20

cycle. Yeah, you're giving someone a ticket

1:14:22

who can't afford a place to stay. This is absolutely

1:14:25

uncomfortable. I have a

1:14:27

niece that's eight years old, and when I told her

1:14:29

about forty one eighteen, she

1:14:32

like her what, Like, it's the most

1:14:34

appalling thing, because why would you give someone a ticket

1:14:37

that can't afford a place to stay? Is literally her response.

1:14:39

So children would know that's wrong. It's

1:14:42

obvious. Bigger than that, it's set up to

1:14:44

create these things that are

1:14:47

messed up, and we have to keep advocating for

1:14:49

certainly. Yeah, well, mister

1:14:51

Sennett, you definitely gave us a mouthful and

1:14:53

things to think on, and I thank you. I'll probably

1:14:55

invite you on again, I pless sure, and I

1:14:57

appreciate what you do and your advocacy, so

1:15:00

I'm happy to continue sharing. I am

1:15:02

it's the same here. I enjoy your

1:15:04

videos, and I'm glad that you're keeping an eye

1:15:07

on the situation, and hopefully together

1:15:09

we'll beat in the light of understanding for other people

1:15:11

to absolutely brom

1:15:21

Heaven helped the child never

1:15:23

had a home. Heaven

1:15:27

help the girl who watched the streets

1:15:29

alone. Heaven

1:15:32

helped the roses if the

1:15:34

bombs begin to fall. Ever

1:15:46

even help the black man and he

1:15:48

struggles one morning day. Ever

1:15:51

helped the white man and it turns back

1:15:54

way. Heaven

1:15:57

help the man who many

1:16:04

son ever ever

1:16:14

lampus never

1:16:17

us here

1:16:22

zing Evan

1:16:30

of the Boys won't beach twenty

1:16:32

one. Don't

1:16:35

help a man again that

1:16:39

even help the people who with a bass

1:16:42

against the ball. So

1:16:45

em help son emon

1:16:49

must all

1:16:55

right, So

1:17:18

so now

1:17:25

lay it down. I saw go

1:17:28

to sleep in

1:17:31

the trouble world. I pray the

1:17:33

Lord to keep keep

1:17:36

hating from the Mighty and

1:17:38

the Mighty from the school all

1:18:02

the next

1:18:07

one maybe