My guest today is Pete Horne, founder of 4th Energy.

Pete is a veteran programmer who thinks deeply about the EVM and computation. With 4th.energy, Pete is exploring how the EVM can be used to serve applications directly from the blockchain. In this vision, application data is verifiably stored on one or multiple of the EVMs connected to L1 Ethereum. With this technology, programmers and users would be able to permissionlessly distribute and run user-facing applications without the gatekeeping limitations of app stores or centralized cloud providers. By transforming the EVM into a dynamic application server, 4th.Energy threatens to truly deliver on censorship resistant dapps — a substantial step beyond the more limited horizons of today's smart contracts.

This conversation was recorded shortly after Pete announced that he would be disconinuing the project. However, for listeners who enjoy the conversation, I have great news. I've since heard from Pete that he is resuscitating the project and continuing the journey. Visit 4th.energy for the latest news.

It was wonderful getting to learn more about Pete and his mind-expanding project. I hope you enjoy the show.

As always, this show is provided as entertainment and does not constitute legal, financial, or tax advice or any form of endorsement or suggestion. Crypto has risks and you alone are responsible for doing your research and making your own decisions.

Links

• Hosted by @nicholas
• 4th.energy
• horneps on Farcaster
• Pete's website