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we go again. Or what about, I'm a

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1:56

listen to something like you are. She's completely

1:58

off the beat, wrong tune. Okay, well,

2:01

well, anyway, she's an absolute legend. You

2:05

guys are gonna enjoy this episode. Hello.

2:13

Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello.

2:16

I don't know why we were singing, and we're not the

2:18

one listening. I was just about to sing your song. And

2:21

I was like, don't do that. Don't do that, you're really.

2:23

Oh my God, I always do that whenever I'm with anybody

2:25

that makes music, I can't help but sing their songs. And

2:27

they must have come to stay with. Yeah, but you're good

2:29

at singing. Have you had

2:31

me singing? No, can I now? Should

2:33

we sing you a bit of a harmony? I

2:35

sounded man-o-mow, happy-fishing. No.

2:39

It's really good. Well,

2:42

hold on, I used to literally blur like

2:44

four words. We know that. I know that.

2:46

Yeah. It

2:48

was unbelievable. I'm

2:51

tender. It's never, it's

2:53

always been something I've wanted to do. Me

2:55

too. People sing, and I'll tell you why. I

2:58

always thought I'd be like the sexiest girl on

3:00

the party, cracking out a tune, and every boy

3:02

would just flock on my feet. Especially if you

3:05

can play the piano tune and it doesn't have

3:07

to be a piano tune, you just sit down

3:09

and go. Then you just like, little glass of

3:11

wine. Well, that was you. That is you, weren't

3:13

it? No, I'm always too drunk at that point.

3:15

I can play the piano, yeah. Can

3:18

you dance? You can dance too.

3:21

Yeah, before I was a singer, I was a dancer. I

3:23

wanted to be a dancer. I

3:25

wanted to be like on Broadway. I

3:27

wanted to be a theater kid, and

3:30

then I'd study theater at college, and I

3:32

was like, eh. Okay, let's go

3:34

back into this. Okay, so you've had a huge

3:36

year, and we've got all of that short. I

3:38

wanna hear how it all started, because it feels

3:40

like there's a backstory. How did it, what, being

3:43

a singer started? Were you singing out of the

3:45

womb? Yeah, I came out singing out

3:47

of the womb, for sure. At what age did you

3:49

get into it? Because you were young. I always, yeah.

3:52

When you were like, how old are you? I

3:54

was like 21, and you were like, I hate you. And

3:56

I was like, I love you. Yeah. Just

3:58

the best. But I feel

4:00

21 at heart. I think I'm

4:02

always going to be 21. Same, I'm always 21

4:04

in my mind. I'm 22 in July and I'm like,

4:06

no I'm not. I don't think it's true. 22,

4:09

I have seen it. Yeah,

4:11

that's a wrap. Yay. Anyway,

4:14

what was it with what? How

4:16

did you get into singing? And also,

4:18

when was it a time when you were like, right,

4:20

this is what I'm doing as

4:22

a career? So I realised I wanted to be a

4:24

singer when my mum took me to a Katy Perry

4:26

concert when I was, you're

4:29

quite Katy Perry vibes. Do

4:31

you know what I mean? When I was like eight. I'm

4:33

going to see you all. I

4:35

went to the O2 and we had the shittest seats in the house. We

4:37

were like right at the top and Katy Perry was like this big. And

4:39

I was like, how on earth has this tiny

4:41

lady made everybody in this room feel like best

4:44

mates and like we're all connected? And I was like, I

4:46

want to be that girl. Wow. And then I went literally

4:48

like beaming afterwards and then

4:52

wanted to be a singer ever since then. But obviously you

4:54

can't just wish a dream and then

4:56

it happens. Yeah. So I

4:58

had so much competition in that. I know. And it's such

5:01

a big world and I come from a place where like

5:03

nothing happens and it's just like a shithole and everybody

5:05

knows everybody and it's just never going to

5:07

happen. So I think and then in school,

5:11

I did lots of musical theater, lots of dance,

5:13

lots of singing, lots of acting, lots of everything,

5:15

lots of sport. I did everything. I'm very like,

5:17

do you have something to do every day? Outgoing

5:19

girl. Yeah, yeah, outgoing queen. And

5:22

then and then lockdown hits. Yeah.

5:25

And I'm like, how on earth am I going to be able to

5:28

like be a singer sort of thing because

5:30

TikTok. Is that where it

5:32

all started? And then what happens in the gym? They

5:34

all get they all just go on TikTok and then

5:36

it's talent. I used

5:38

to like laugh at TikTok because I was like,

5:41

it's cringy, like why people are

5:43

posting videos and self-singing. And then lockdown happened and I was

5:45

just watching TikTok every day. And I was like, oh, that's

5:47

the amazing. I love it. And then

5:49

I love it. Remember that time where they

5:52

were like, oh, lockdown's over. Go out and have fun.

5:54

Yeah. And then a week later, they were like, yeah,

5:56

they brought us back in. So they locked up again.

5:58

You locked up again, bitches. And my mum

6:00

called me because she was away and I had my friends over

6:02

and she was like, they've all got to go. We're back into

6:04

lockdown. And I was just going, Oh my God. My

6:07

mum was proper on it with lockdown. And I was like, this

6:09

is awful. I can't. It was so depressing. So depressing.

6:11

So I made a song called Average Student, which is

6:13

about like, how I don't know what I'm

6:15

doing with my life and how everything sucks and shit. And

6:18

then I posted it on TikTok and then it

6:20

blew up. Is songwriting also quite, that's quite something

6:22

else to be talented with songwriting. Thanks. Because that's

6:24

something people don't talk about. Thank you. Like if

6:26

you listen to it, then we were like actually

6:29

able to write the song as well as sing

6:31

it. That was actually really quite something. Thank you

6:33

so much. That would be, and then the melody

6:35

to like conjure that up as well as the

6:37

words. Like, how long does that take you? Sometimes

6:39

it takes me like a

6:42

few hours. Sometimes it takes me like 10 minutes.

6:44

Like some of my bestest songs, like Pretty

6:46

Boys, I made it in literally like 10 minutes. And

6:49

X and Y the same. Yours. Wow. Wait,

6:52

I want to know about, so when you went, did

6:54

that song on TikTok, were

6:56

you embarrassed to do it? Yeah. That was

6:58

like your first debut in front of your

7:00

friends. Were you doing TikToks already? I

7:02

did a few, but they were like funny ones and just

7:04

like copying trends and stuff. Because what if I blow up?

7:07

What were you feeling and what did your friends

7:10

react? Like, what your family, like what the hell?

7:12

Well, like most of my friends

7:15

that I, were like people I hung out with in like

7:17

school and stuff, I didn't see them anymore. I only saw

7:19

one friend in lockdown because I was like, I fucking hate

7:21

everybody else. And you're the only person that I can tolerate

7:23

anyone. She was like, stay. So

7:25

she was the only person I really cared about. Fine.

7:27

So you were sort of just going there. I was

7:29

just like, yeah, exactly. And the

7:31

only reason why I posted it is because like the

7:33

people that used to make me feel like shit just

7:36

disappeared. So I was like, cool. So what we do,

7:38

so you post something on TikTok and then you blow

7:40

up. And you're like, what the fuck? Your life changed.

7:42

But it literally was like, so I

7:44

posted the video. I almost deleted it as well because I

7:46

was embarrassed. Can you imagine? I was literally just close to,

7:49

I was looking at the delete button and I was like,

7:52

but I turned my phone off because I just thought, right, I

7:54

can give it a minute and then my mate came

7:57

and picked me up and we went to M&S car

7:59

park. I'm cool and we go

8:01

to car parks. That's where you hang out these days.

8:03

Cool kids. So I was there and I tapped my

8:05

phone back on and I had half a million views

8:07

on my video. And I never like seen that sort

8:10

of number ever, only in like a

8:12

mass exam, I don't understand. But

8:14

like on a video of me, what do you

8:16

mean? What were you feeling? I screamed and then

8:18

we opened up all of her car doors, plugged

8:21

the aux in and played this little minute video

8:23

of my song for about two hours. I'm like,

8:25

oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

8:27

no. And then literally the next day I get a message from

8:29

my manager, she stops

8:32

your music company, literally just pick it up like that. She

8:34

messaged me and was like, I've seen your video, my boss

8:36

loves you, can you give me a call? And I was

8:38

like, yeah. And then she called me and I like just

8:40

turned 18, just got a million views and I was just

8:42

like, what do you want? I

8:44

was like, who are you? Who are

8:46

you, what do you want from me? And she was like, she

8:49

was like, hi babe, hi,

8:51

I want you to go to London, la, la, la. I

8:53

went to London and I never left basically. Whoa. It was

8:55

like the next day. That is such a whirlwind. So where

8:57

were you living before London? I hope. I'm

9:00

from Southampton. Chitel. Oh my God, shoot your.

9:03

Keep, keep, keep, honestly,

9:05

sorry. No offence to anyone who lives

9:07

in Southampton now. Okay, and

9:10

then so you get to London, life's

9:12

crazy. How are you feeling? You're gonna

9:14

have to do like a record tape or whatever it's called.

9:16

So my brother is a barrister, so he's like a big

9:18

law man. And after

9:20

I got off the phone with my manager, he was like, right,

9:23

you can go to London, but I'm coming with you. Oh my

9:25

God, you're so lucky you had that. My brothers were like, just

9:28

because I got kidnapped or something, you know, it's scary world. But

9:31

I get to the offices, I meet my

9:34

managers and stuff and they gave me

9:36

grapes and grass and juice and I was already

9:38

in the room. Gorgeous. And I

9:40

thought, wow, I'm in. And

9:42

then I went to the studio, met

9:45

the producers that worked on like Lily Allen and

9:47

stuff. They made Smile. You know what's going on.

9:49

I literally was like, I was in my bedroom

9:51

yesterday in like the middle

9:53

of nowhere. Now I'm in London. I never really- You think

9:55

it holds half of it. It's called Southampton. I

9:57

never really been to London. And now I'm hearing like this

9:59

fucking. beautiful studio, all these like things everywhere and

10:01

yeah and then after the session they were like

10:04

do you want to come back next week and

10:06

do it again and do some more and I

10:08

just got a job at the co-op as well

10:10

and I would gasp because I was like

10:12

I'm gonna save all my money and then I'm gonna um

10:15

have recording sessions and stuff but I did one

10:17

day at the co-op, went to London the

10:20

next day. You're like I'm scared you're off to be a star. I

10:22

like that. Came back for my my second shift and then I spoke

10:24

to the boss on the third one because I cried the whole way

10:26

through my second shift. I said look I've got to quit. I'm

10:28

gonna be a pop star. I literally said

10:31

that and he was like okay. He

10:33

literally was like he was like okay.

10:35

You could love it that dream's sweet. And then I called my

10:37

manager like I've quit I'm ready to go I want to

10:39

be a pop star put me back for every day

10:41

I'm so excited. Oh my god and this

10:44

is what how many years ago now like three

10:46

three and now you've had just had the most

10:48

major year ever. I mean next year it's gonna

10:50

be huge because you've just

10:52

been nominated for Brit's

10:54

A Rising Star Award. That is

10:56

crazy. I'm bloody excited. Thank you

10:58

so much. That's

11:01

mental Adele was nominated. That's fucking

11:03

honestly even to be like

11:05

acknowledged but it's just wild. I hope we get

11:08

invited and we're in the background with like in

11:10

it. Are you excited? I like

11:12

that one. Are we watching on the telly if we're

11:14

not there? I honestly can't believe it. It's a dream

11:16

I've always had. And it's weird like you know when

11:18

you think things and then you're like oh that would

11:20

be fun. You think you manifested

11:22

it very casually then? Because you're like I'm

11:24

gonna be a pop star. I manifest everything.

11:27

I manifested being nominated for a Brit Award.

11:29

Okay let's go into this. Are

11:31

you like a witchy girl? I'm a witchy I'm

11:34

witchy. Crick your style over here. Like I

11:36

am witchy. Okay that's nice. Witchy woo. Let's

11:38

go into that. I just I love manifesting.

11:40

I love stars. I love like

11:42

believing in like a bigger thing. Yeah

11:45

astrology. I love it all. Like the

11:47

higher power. Oh my god. And

11:49

I believe if you're like positive and you're nice

11:51

to people and you do

11:53

good things it all comes

11:56

back around. Exactly. I

12:00

can't believe how quickly

12:02

that happened to you. How it was actually like

12:04

one song, one TikTok,

12:07

a call, a signing all within a

12:09

week, like, one in a

12:12

million. That was incredible. That's why once I got it,

12:14

I was like, I have to quit my job and

12:16

just go full-scale, see my head. Yeah. A hundred times.

12:18

And work so hard. That's like how I will always

12:20

think though. I'm so driven. Like, I

12:22

will always want more. Like, I'm so happy where I

12:24

am, but I always want to grow and be better.

12:26

That's why you're successful. Yeah. Because

12:28

it's a tough game, man. You can't applaud

12:30

because someone else will do it. I want

12:33

to ask you a bit about this actually,

12:35

because you obviously like, like Minna says, you're

12:37

just thrown into this lifestyle. Like,

12:39

how was it meeting all of the people

12:41

in this industry? Like, were you like, I

12:43

like them. I don't like them. Oh, no,

12:46

fine. I love everyone. You love everyone. I've

12:48

actually had like the most angelic, beautiful, gorgeous

12:50

experience with everything. But that's good. I

12:52

know. Because I thought you were a

12:54

manifesting queen. A Gacama bit witchy woo.

12:58

I'm like, I'm sheltered by like everything. I have the

13:00

most amazing team around me where like, You're

13:02

protected. I'm protected. Yeah. And the second I

13:05

feel like something's off there, like it's gone.

13:07

Don't worry. Wow. I'm

13:09

shout out to the queen. You're

13:11

a sally. It's true. I love that. And I

13:13

like how you're so grateful. I am. No, I

13:15

love their family now. We're not, it's not even

13:17

a team. They've

13:22

got a couple of like pointers here, which I

13:24

feel like are very relevant to your song. Okay.

13:26

So when you're writing, because you write your own

13:28

song. Yes. That's huge. So

13:30

do you relate them to your like dating

13:32

and stuff like that? Or are they completely

13:35

like made? No, come on. It's all about

13:37

real things. It's all about real people and

13:39

real situations. So if you wrote a song

13:41

about, let's say like, like

13:43

a boy you dated or someone you dated a few

13:45

years ago, and it was like quite toxic, would he

13:47

be aware of the fact? It wouldn't be quite obvious.

13:49

You'd written it about him. Yeah. Cause I'm just specific.

13:51

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. Like here's the day.

13:53

Here are the days. Cause I was feeling like,

13:55

have you ever had people who you've dated be like,

13:58

uh, that song song. Wow.

14:00

All the time. What? What?

14:03

What? Not all the time, but like, cause

14:05

it's not, it's only about like a few guys. Sure. But

14:08

like, I'm too specific with it. Not the

14:10

long roster. In their Katie's. Not the long

14:12

roster. No, imagine. No, but it's

14:14

just, yeah, I'm too specific

14:16

with it and I'm very honest. And also

14:19

I go onto podcasts and fucking tell everybody

14:21

everything. Literally. I love

14:23

it. Yeah, come on, call the meeting. Don't

14:25

say that. Don't say that. I've been waiting.

14:27

Give us some dating situations. Our audience are

14:29

all for that. They would love to hear.

14:32

Okay, so one of my first like biggest,

14:34

bigger songs was a song called Friendly Sex.

14:37

And basically I was in a situationship with this guy

14:40

and I'd been in a situation with him for like three

14:43

years. And he was like. That's a long time.

14:45

I know. For sure you're young like

14:47

that. I know. And he could say. Talk to situationship.

14:49

Yeah, and I was like, I let him walk all

14:51

over me cause I just like adored him. Oh, we've

14:53

all been there. Can you just tell the listeners? I

14:55

know, they know, but what was the situation? A situationship

14:57

is basically, you're not together. He can't commit to you.

14:59

Move on, get over it. Literally

15:02

a situationship, do not waste your time.

15:04

You are not together. It's

15:06

so shit. I can't wait to so much time. And I'm

15:08

like, why did I do that? But did you? I

15:11

loved him so much as well. You know why you

15:13

did that? Cause now you've written six songs about him.

15:16

I got a holy piazza. Thank you. Thank

15:20

you situation. Yeah, thank you King. Anyway,

15:23

yeah. So a lot of songs about

15:25

him. Yeah, but it's fine. It's over now. I feel

15:27

great and I feel light. Yeah,

15:29

you shed it that way. But you did

15:31

have quite a good way of closure, writing

15:33

a song about someone getting it out. Because

15:35

I go through this phase of being like,

15:38

it's not about you, it's just a song,

15:40

get over it. Oh yeah, like you're important

15:42

to yourself, but it's not about you. I

15:44

love that song. But then I'm like, I

15:47

know exactly about you, yeah, that's about you. Yeah,

15:49

it's like, I sat for weeks, just writing about

15:52

you. And then sometimes you'd be like, oh, can

15:54

you stop doing this? Everybody knows about me. I'm

15:56

like, nobody knows what you are. Nobody can.

15:58

Nobody gives a fuck. like no one

16:00

knows who you are. Nobody gives a

16:02

flying-fesh fuck. Okay, he's a shite. We

16:06

don't like him. I was suddenly calm and

16:09

I'm suddenly enraged. That's what happened to the

16:11

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16:13

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16:16

of it. Catfight.

16:19

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per month. Slows. So

18:02

you have a new

18:04

mixtape coming out called Still Learning, so

18:06

we want to know what skills you'd

18:08

love to learn. I'd like to know

18:11

how to drive. Oh my god,

18:13

that's going to be put off when you're being a pop

18:15

star. How are you going to take your time out to

18:17

do that? You're a pop star now. You can be driven

18:19

around. That's what I say. That's

18:21

what Serena Vanderwooden's mum told her. That's

18:24

what drivers are for. Why on earth do you need to learn to drive?

18:26

God, we've had loads of reference to gospel. Because I'm re-watching it. It's so

18:28

rad. It's so relevant to

18:30

day to day life. It's so relevant. It's so

18:32

relevant in the unrelatable thing up earth. We

18:35

love living that. I like the things that I

18:37

am, you know, seriously. Jamie doesn't drive. I think

18:39

all the cool people don't drive. Have you ever

18:41

heard me say that? All the cool people do.

18:43

I'm just trying to give Casey that too. I'm

18:46

driving. I'd quite like to have

18:48

this vision in my brain because everyone, like all my friends

18:50

drive me everywhere. I'd quite like to just turn up to

18:53

the house and be like, boop boop. It's

18:55

a part of living. We're going shopping. We're going

18:57

to be like, come on. You

18:59

can come. Have that independence. It's really fun. It's

19:01

dangerous. No, I'd love that. I make sure my

19:04

will is signed every time I get in that

19:06

car with her. It's genuinely... You're not a good

19:08

driver. No. I

19:10

almost killed a pedestrian today. No, I'm the same.

19:14

Yeah, doo doo. Doo doo da da da. Yeah,

19:16

all over. We've been conversations all the time. Oh

19:18

yeah, yeah. Yeah. I

19:21

also have a question about what it's really like at

19:23

the Brits. Like, give us some inside scoop. Like, do

19:25

you go to like an after party? Yeah. Like,

19:28

tell us everything. So, I went to the Brits last

19:30

year. And I

19:32

am normally very out

19:34

there and very like... Sorry,

19:37

flu season guys. Sorry. That's

19:40

such a good way of like getting over... You know, it's

19:42

awkward and then people don't say anything. Anyway...

19:45

Flu season everybody. Sorry.

19:48

Yeah, normally I'm very

19:50

like extroverted and I

19:52

feel very like confident. But

19:55

when I went to the Brits last year, it was the first time I've

19:57

ever felt like... Shit. Holy... like

20:01

I'm sat at this table just like in a dress

20:03

that was literally I was naked like here and here

20:05

and here I looked amazing but I was just like

20:08

are you on a table with people that you know or you put

20:10

the vantages strange? half of them are

20:12

people that you know fine well on this occasion

20:14

as long as I'm with my manager

20:16

I don't really care where I am yeah she's

20:18

my left arm I'm fine but it was amazing

20:21

like Harry Styles was near me my dad I

20:23

turn around and fuck she just sat there like

20:25

honestly she's there, how

20:27

dare she even like breathe what? it exists

20:30

looking like that I know honestly it's sickening

20:32

but it was great and then after a

20:34

few glasses of wine and some very the

20:36

confidence small portions of food I was I

20:39

was fine but it was it was a really

20:42

really good night and I made some really really good friends oh my

20:44

god that's gorgeous were you

20:47

really starstruck by somebody? Obviously Harry

20:49

Styles I mean I don't really get starstruck I

20:51

just get a bit like the

20:53

world's a simulation sort of thing I'm like none of

20:55

this is real so you taught yourself this year how

20:57

excited are you? I know but it's the first thing

21:00

that I've nominated mega I

21:02

feel like for the outfit it's got

21:04

to be extra I mean I have

21:06

the most amazing stylist who always puts me in the

21:08

most amazing things but I'm gonna go extra

21:11

full send for the moment you've got to get full

21:13

send I know I want to do some sort of

21:15

like fairy godmother look but like you

21:18

know the L plate thing that I've got going

21:20

on with the the mixtape I want to have

21:22

like an L plate like down oh cool and

21:24

like a little wand and just be like so

21:27

you're going on a big

21:29

tour a big fat fuck off tour you're a

21:31

full pop star I know but I'm not a

21:33

pop star I'm a star of us you're too

21:36

creepy yet no but who comes in the back

21:38

with you? just my your friend my my band

21:40

and my some of my friends will come this time

21:43

I reckon so where are you touring? everywhere

21:45

give us some names okay

21:48

Big cities Manchester yes whoa

21:51

whoa Leeds Southampton

21:54

Brish goes back to the wand maybe we should

21:56

go revisit some and then

21:58

I think London is next day after

22:00

London would be great London with that no that's

22:03

obviously I'm coming to London I'm playing hammer for

22:05

the pearl on Friday 19th of April and you'll

22:07

be there yeah we will be honestly it's gonna

22:09

be a bit you're gonna I will lose your

22:12

mind you're gonna lose your mind honestly I'm losing

22:14

my annual ready I'm so excited so we're doing

22:16

our tour in the same location venue

22:20

that weekend so you better come to that this is dream to you

22:26

I think I think we're all all connected

22:29

somehow they called the invisible string theory have

22:31

you heard of it no I can

22:33

probably explain it in a really really bad way but you know

22:35

when you just like like know of people

22:37

when you bump into people and you're all like connected in

22:39

some sort of way I've had it with so many people

22:41

recently okay

22:45

cutie hello we're gonna give you some dilemmas

22:47

cuz you're a wise wise owl she's a witchy

22:50

boo I want you to help our

22:53

listeners with their serious

22:55

dynamics yeah do you want to read the

22:57

first amount of trash okay hey safety Melissa

23:00

last summer me my boyfriend and a group of

23:02

friends went to Glastonbury together love that

23:05

it was one of the highlights of my summer and

23:07

a weekend which I thought I'd look back at with good

23:09

memories for the rest of my life me

23:12

and a group of group of my girl me

23:14

and my girl group decided to get all

23:16

the space for cameras to take their own photos off of

23:19

you there I was lazy and only got

23:21

my film developed last week I was

23:23

searching through them and printed the photos and didn't remember

23:25

taking any of them I was

23:27

in some I was in some of them but

23:29

film but the film definitely wasn't

23:32

mine oh I think like she'd taken someone else's

23:34

film so it wasn't her camera

23:36

oh and then I realized that I must

23:38

have accidentally swapped cameras with another one of

23:40

my friends what started off

23:42

as a nice walk around walk down

23:44

memory lane looking back at our time

23:47

away turned into my worst nightmare hmm

23:49

as one of the potatoes I came

23:51

across was one of my friends kissing

23:53

my boyfriend what my friend

23:55

all my boyfriend have mentioned it I'm so

23:57

confused at to why my friend hasn't tried

24:00

to get the camera back if she'd known that that

24:02

photo was taken. I didn't pick

24:04

anything suspicious I didn't pick up anything

24:06

suspicious whilst we were out fasting or

24:09

since I'm trying to excuse it as

24:11

a drunk mistake But

24:15

I've been second-guessing myself non-stop and just want to

24:17

know the truth What

24:19

do I ask first my friend or my boyfriend? It's

24:21

been eating me up and I need to know what

24:23

happened This is mental. I wonder how many weeks of

24:25

posture said a few weeks have passed Sorry,

24:28

no, no, oh no. Hold on. The

24:30

glass memory was in June. Like we're now this

24:32

is a month away Sorry,

24:35

no, I golf not the sorry. They must have

24:37

been they must have been And

24:42

then give it back to the oh so the fact

24:44

that she doesn't try to get the camera back I

24:46

think it's pretty obvious that they don't even have any

24:48

recollection of that happening I think that makes it a

24:51

little less shady that they're not It

24:53

would make me think oh maybe but also like

24:55

no matter how like fucked up I've ever been

24:57

I've I if I kissed my best friend Boyfriend

24:59

remember 100% I would just not do that. No,

25:01

I would not do that either Oh,

25:06

no, it's terrible. Who'd you ask first? I would

25:08

ask it depends. I recall the

25:10

bad guy. I'll call my boy I'd say go

25:12

for my boyfriend and I would be really upset

25:14

my best friend. I Don't

25:16

know if I'd be able to talk to the best friend

25:19

about it I would get information from the boyfriend first and

25:21

understand what his side of the story would be I Would

25:24

let I would make them think they're both like yeah,

25:26

what would you do? Come on? I would like go for a

25:28

nice dinner and write them both around about all the friends around

25:30

and be like My

25:33

god, just what's that? All

25:35

I make them laugh like do a joke and then they're like ha

25:37

ha ha cut some off guard and just put it front I mean

25:39

what the fuck is that? Oh No

25:43

time to think this has to

25:45

fuck, you know, what's also good. They

25:47

don't have enough time to like cross over That's all right.

25:49

Do you want to join this podcast? That's yeah I'm

25:53

to conjure up a story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

25:55

you ask them questions Linda. They don't want

25:58

the right answer is yeah I

26:00

would also get another witness. I'd also do it in front of everybody.

26:02

Yeah, get another witness. Yeah, let's nail them to the ground. And

26:07

then say you guys can be all evil. But then it should be like...

26:09

But then would you do... I do,

26:11

I'd never get over that. Neither. I don't... Depends

26:14

on age. But it just also sounds... Yeah.

26:17

It sounds quite like... It sounds like... Yeah, it's a bit

26:19

of a... It's a bit of a... I

26:22

do, I'd never get over that. Neither. I

26:24

don't... Depends on age. But it just also sounds...

26:26

Yeah. It sounds quite like... It

26:29

sounds like... It's not that deep. No, it sounds like everybody

26:31

was really fucked up. It sounds like everyone was really fucked

26:34

up. There's been a photo taken. They don't even obviously remember

26:36

it. They've given the camera back to you. Yeah. They

26:39

haven't acted shady. You haven't picked up on anything and we do

26:41

have a serious gut sense. I feel like there's something going on

26:43

you would know. Yeah. But if you...

26:47

is this? I would still be fuming. I

26:49

would still be fuming. I'd still be done with the offense

26:51

for sure. Yeah, I don't know for sure. But it's just

26:53

like where... You could not... I wasn't there on the night

26:55

out. Like what was every... What were you all up to?

26:57

Like, yeah. Do you know what I mean? I think it's

26:59

so age relevant. I'm sorry, but I do. Like if it was like

27:01

a young thing going to class and you were all going

27:03

to class, I would be like, I just think that sort

27:05

of shit could happen. But like, if that were to happen

27:08

now and I saw Jamie kissing my best friend... I'm sorry.

27:11

You're not. Both of you are out. You

27:14

know what I mean? You're mad, of course.

27:16

Me and Jamie. Honestly, basically. What

27:19

is this, guys? But you know what I mean? Totally. I

27:23

would say I'm going to give you an age

27:25

bracket. It's also like

27:27

just the vibe of the friendship group. Like, you

27:29

know when it becomes... Like, blasphemy

27:31

is kind of like Lucy Goosey place. I

27:34

don't know. But I don't know. I'm

27:36

wondering if Toni was kissing one of my girlfriends

27:39

from like... Yeah, you don't know. They always ask

27:41

me. I'm like, fuck off. Okay,

27:43

right. No. You've got to do

27:45

what Katie's stressed it. I think it's an airport bag. And then

27:47

you need to port that. Fill in the idea, guys. Just like,

27:49

if I'm over, cook a lovely dinner, it'd be so nice. Oh,

27:51

we haven't seen something for a minute. Oh, yes, my God. Get

27:53

away with that. Have a cat, have some wine, and

27:56

be like, so guys, no problem. What is that?

27:58

Click. And then it just projects on top. Oh

28:00

we should do like a 2023 rap, that's what she should do. Here's

28:03

my 2023 raps of the year, like here's what's

28:05

gone on. So I went to Glastonbury, had a

28:08

great time. Next slide. Here's my outfit,

28:10

here's my leather there. Next slide, my best

28:12

friend kissing my boyfriend. I can't wait for

28:14

this. Oh, that is so redeeming George Gough,

28:16

me, Gough. Oh, I love it. So excellent.

28:18

Okay, right. Next one, next I love him.

28:20

That was great. Really great piece of life.

28:22

Help, help, help. I've been with my boyfriend

28:24

for six years and I love him so

28:27

much. We went on a weekend wait and

28:29

both got very drunk. We had drunk sex,

28:31

which was fun, but a bit of a blur. But

28:33

the next morning when we woke up, my boyfriend was a

28:35

bit off with me. I asked him what

28:38

the matter was and he told me that I'd said

28:40

his best friend's name whilst we were having sex. Oh!

28:45

What's going on with all these best friends? And like, yes,

28:47

I mean, yeah. As

28:50

soon as he said this, I remembered it happened, but

28:52

I had no idea why I was thinking of his

28:55

best friend at that specific moment in time. And then

28:57

say it as well. It's quite a bit much. I

28:59

can't bear it. Oh, that's really shit. I never thought

29:01

of his friend like that. I apologize for my boyfriend

29:03

and I have tried to reassure him, but what can

29:06

I do to show that it was an honest mistake

29:08

and that I don't actually want to shag his mate?

29:10

Should I tell you a story? Yes. Right.

29:13

Don't tell me you told me you said you've done that. No,

29:16

no, no, you're gonna die, right? The only way

29:18

is ethics, reality-sharing. When I

29:20

was at uni with my ex, we

29:23

were having sex and

29:25

I was very drunk and I called him Rick

29:27

from TOWIE. He was going out with Jeff Wright.

29:29

Rick, I don't even know how to remember that.

29:31

What's the name Rick? Ricky.

29:34

I remember him doing it. Like he was like,

29:36

what the fuck, Sophie? And I was obviously so

29:38

drunk. Uni days, travels, woo. And

29:41

I kept calling him Ricky. Ricky

29:43

was not a vibe with us. I

29:46

did not fancy Ricky at all.

29:48

So I kind of like, I'm like, poor

29:50

you. Just drunk. I

29:53

thought he just totally watched. The only

29:55

way is ethics. That day. And it was in

29:57

your mind. You probably let it in. Yeah, also like, I know this isn't the

29:59

same thing. But you know when you were at school and you call your

30:01

teacher mum? Oh yeah! Or dad. Or

30:04

love you. Yeah. Things happen.

30:06

I always go mum. Yeah, same. And

30:09

they'd be like what? Sometimes I call my

30:11

boyfriend, my brother's name, if I've just been with my

30:13

brother and then I'm like around and I'm like oh

30:15

well. And I'm like oh Toby. Yeah. Sometimes

30:17

that happens. I mean these things do happen, it is

30:19

very peak and it's very shit that you were drunk

30:21

and like on a nice weekend away. You just have

30:24

to keep like convincing him. And you know what I

30:26

would do? This is just me. I

30:28

would then like one of like

30:30

another like friend that you have or

30:32

like another like someone that's completely unfresh

30:35

to your relationship. I would then

30:37

maybe on purpose accidentally call him that name not on

30:39

a sexy vibe day. So like oh Sasha's actually in

30:41

the middle. I don't know what's going on with me

30:43

so I just keep saying random people names. Yeah. Pretend

30:46

like it's so dixie. I'm so dixie. I

30:48

don't know what's going on with my brain fog babe. I

30:51

don't think it's how deep he just needs to get over it.

30:54

Yeah. But I'd also reassure him to be

30:56

like I honestly have no idea. I'd be like I saw I think

30:58

it's because I saw a very crazy family. That's so

31:00

creepy. Oh. What

31:02

the fuck. So

31:05

let me see.

31:07

Hey girls I'm studying away at

31:10

uni and my best friend has just broken

31:12

up with her boyfriend and I thought she'd be upset

31:14

about break up but she seemed completely normal and won't

31:16

talk to me about it. The

31:18

only thing she said to me is she

31:20

didn't want me to let her go home

31:22

with anyone after a night out. However since

31:25

then she's been sneaking the same boy

31:27

into our house. I caught

31:29

him once and told her that it might

31:31

not be the best idea and she may

31:33

not be ready and she agreed but she

31:36

keeps disappearing on nights out and ends up

31:38

at his house. Just to add this guy

31:40

is bad news. He's not got

31:42

a good reputation as no sleeping around and not being

31:44

nice to girls. She says that she doesn't

31:46

care and that she just doesn't like him. I can tell

31:48

that she does. This is always the way we always think

31:50

we can sleep with someone. I

31:53

don't know what to do because I don't want it to come

31:55

across as a needy friend or like I'm being her mum but

31:57

at the same time I don't want her to get hurt. anything

32:00

you would suggest. I think these situations are

32:02

so different. I would just flatter. Yeah. I'm

32:04

here for you, and it all goes wrong. The thing is, there's only so much

32:06

you can help a friend. There happens to be a moment all the time. I'll

32:09

be like, here's what I think you should do. And

32:12

I'll be honest and sad. I think it's the right thing to do. And then they'll

32:14

be like, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know. So then they do anyway. But

32:16

then they do it anyway. Yeah, they let people make their own. And then they make

32:18

the mistakes, But then like, you want them

32:20

to make mistakes before they won't be like. I was like, friend-line, they won't

32:22

grow. Yeah,

32:30

this is literally like. Just feed the shoulder to Karan and

32:32

bring the child to me. And like, smack and go to

32:34

dinner and eat pizza. Yeah. And you also

32:37

want to, I think you want to

32:39

bring her back down to Earth and obviously let her know, like, say

32:41

like, oh, it is just obviously a casual flay. But then you

32:43

also want her to be able to like, give you the good

32:46

goth. Like, oh, you know what, we actually have some quite wild

32:48

sex. Like, you want to be able to talk about that with

32:50

your best friend. So you don't want her to feel like you're

32:52

judging her. Yeah. You

32:54

know? It's a fine line. But I get that

32:56

you'll protect, like, we've all been

32:58

there. Oh my God, yeah. We're going to let

33:00

it happen. But like, no matter how much

33:03

you try and help someone, like, they're

33:05

the only people that can help themselves. Totally. They

33:07

just let them. And if you are too needy and pushy

33:09

with her, she will just pull away from you and then

33:11

learn from the end of your friendship, which does happen. So

33:13

you can just flay you when he fucks over. Totally. Like,

33:16

you put me in a bad headspace. You've

33:19

got to just be there. Do you know what it's going to be though?

33:21

I know what you mean. Just be a good friend. Okay,

33:26

right. The fans are going to be dying.

33:28

Some sort of a gossip story. I

33:31

don't know if something's happened to you. It's funny

33:33

or anything. Just give us something. We know loads

33:35

of your fans writing about their dating girl and

33:37

have they given you a story that you can

33:39

anonymously share with us? It doesn't have to be

33:41

about you. Okay, so

33:44

this isn't about me. Fine. This

33:50

is my friend's story that my friend told me. This

33:52

happened like a few years ago. I was seeing

33:55

this boy who Was like,

33:57

disgustingly gorgeous and like... There

34:00

and we have like my. Son

34:03

right, That's done. But.

34:08

One. Time off the we had sex.

34:10

I. Am this is the

34:12

south is it as having sex he led down of

34:14

the that allows that that he does k of without

34:16

salary and i was at me and he was like.

34:19

I think com the chosen one. Oh

34:21

and I was a good zoom in. And.

34:23

Is that all my friends? He's a profit. He

34:25

told me that I'm the Tenzin one. I.

34:28

Just let that I said sure I said

34:30

that a lot of that room. I sadly

34:32

I said that that cigarette butts great see

34:34

it is but he was he was and

34:37

then he went on on my car a

34:39

two hours hundred about how he's a chosen

34:41

one that has been like for on his

34:43

us to like cornea size. Ah my goal

34:45

yeah yeah and I know son after that

34:47

we stopped seeing it other he was signed

34:49

by his iconic hundred a second accommodating when

34:51

I like a case the movies to three

34:53

these he's the chosen more than one. I

34:56

didn't have enough to build and all the

34:58

reason know. Who wouldn't use. Maybe

35:01

that's. Maybe. He had like

35:03

since. Much at Monday's

35:05

my the baby is. A

35:07

way of are rarely a key point

35:09

Ai involving. On him and are the chosen one

35:11

and also I have really finds it is our than he

35:13

decides not to say but he was I say that this

35:16

case is that care about that they're about as you are.

35:19

Sick of the chosen one. I like. Okay

35:22

I didn't know why we do some as.sell

35:24

me to I would let you pack my

35:26

bags. I would be so back thou the

35:29

see I'm lost to marbles life. And

35:32

I live north ave I do I've

35:34

ever had meeting that that was thing

35:36

I've ever had his eye some of

35:38

the stockings for that really loud look

35:40

weird brazilian me that and been might

35:42

go a non like a gathering or

35:44

good I received news that and other

35:46

is. To

35:49

gather as anyone of like trade seventy

35:52

daily these. Who he of? Username: Oh

35:54

noted? I I guess. yeah, that question.

35:57

family events birthdays on how people do you

35:59

always sing or are you quite reserved with

36:01

that? You keep it professional. No. I'm like...

36:05

Any opportunity. If there's a mic don't give it to me because

36:07

I'll do it. Okay

36:12

Katie, you're a songwriter, you're a singer,

36:14

you're a dancer, you're an all-round performer.

36:16

Can you create a theme tune for Wednesdays? Well,

36:18

you can make one right now. Yeah please. Just

36:21

a royalty... No, no pressure. Just on the floor

36:23

if you can. Let's

36:27

just let those creative juices do their thing. We're

36:31

really putting you on the spot. I'm really

36:34

excited now. No, no, no. Oh we'll look

36:36

at you. Look at me. Okay, sorry. All

36:38

eyes. Can

36:43

you give me a beat? Shall I write you a rap? Oh yeah. Okay,

36:45

well go on Ben, you give a beat and then the mic.

36:50

Yeah, yeah,

36:52

yeah, yeah,

36:54

yeah. Oh what? It's Wednesdays.

36:56

It's a Wednesdays podcast. Wednesdays.

36:59

It's a Wednesdays podcast. What?

37:01

Send in your dilemmas, bitch.

37:03

Send in your dilemmas, bitch.

37:05

If you're in the sit-and-sit-and-sit,

37:07

send in your dilemmas, bitch.

37:09

It's the Wednesdays podcast. Wednesdays

37:13

podcast. Possibly

37:18

some of my bestest best. Oh my god. I'll

37:20

be right that right now. The big one, darling.

37:22

Bitch. We love that. Casey, you can say that

37:24

to me. Thank you so much. You've been sucking.

37:26

Thank you. I love you. So fun. So fun.

37:33

I love her. That was so fun. I

37:36

think she's like, she really could sit on

37:38

this sofa and become solid

37:40

vice. Solid vice, she just, inspirational

37:43

woman. I really like the whole sit them down

37:46

and put the photo in front. That was bad

37:48

cop. Good cop vibes. Yeah,

37:50

no, it's like, yeah, like be

37:52

a bit more sad. We don't

37:54

always have to be like, plain

37:56

by the book. We're way too

37:58

boring and adult. just be a

38:00

bit more sassy. We need a little bit

38:02

more blow off in our lives. A bit more Katie Baser.

38:05

Can you tell that she's rewatching Gossip Ball at the

38:07

moment because honestly that's a reference to Gossip Ball

38:09

at the moment. Sorry! We need a bit more

38:11

like Katie Baser manipulation in our

38:13

boat. We do just a little bit more

38:16

finesse. A bit more sass,

38:18

not like vanilla. I'm bloody

38:20

satisfied to go to her tour. She's

38:22

just not going to go backstage with her. I

38:24

really hope we're going to be invited. I'm

38:26

going on the tour bus if she doesn't love me. Oh

38:28

my god, did you not think that would be so exciting?

38:30

Same. She's a real vibe like her lot. Guys,

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